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yoshifan
2009-11-28 11:37:25 pm
Quote from Greenalink:
Is there a good reason why you don't include a 3 star coin run? A "too many categories" issue?


Yeah, I guess that'd be the main reason.  The idea hasn't been brought up at all at the Mario Center, though - we could very well add those charts if people want it.  Actually, I was thinking myself that 3-coin charts could be pretty fun.

Also, nice improvement UCpro. Smiley
UCpro
2009-11-29 12:21:56 am
World 5-Ghost House

... unless there's way to successfully jump through the ghost circle at the end without losing the propeller, 568 looks to be the fastest possible time here.

... on to World 8
neskamikaze
2009-11-29 12:30:01 am
Maybe if you wait a tiny bit and go through the circle in front through the large gap, then maybe on the way down you can fall between the ghosts. You might have to be slightly careful falling down, but it seems like it could still be faster than the current method.
ALAKTORN
ALAKTORN
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ALAKTORN: 2009-11-29 01:09:09 am
2009-11-29 12:59:39 am
you're great at those jump falls O_o the end looks slow... are you sure you can't jump through the circle without getting hit? the first part looks possible to do if you maybe wait a little bit and jump+down to crouch, then exiting it doesn't look impossible with a well timed jump

edit: can somebody tell me how to get off Yoshi in this game?
Red_Shifter
2009-11-29 01:44:53 am
yes, an iron knuckle riding a mechanical horse
shake the wiimote
Baxter
2009-11-29 05:22:38 am
I think the super skills movie that uses the secret exit goes through the ghost circle without losing time.
UCpro
2009-11-29 11:13:11 am
Quote from Baxter:
I think the super skills movie that uses the secret exit goes through the ghost circle without losing time.


small mario is used for the super skills video though.  I have been successful a couple times jumping through the circle with propeller mario, but i have to slow down a bit to do it safely.  It was a little faster than going over the circle though, so i'll have to spend a little more time getting that jump down.
Baxter
2009-11-29 01:36:03 pm
Did you try pressing down right before jumping?
UCpro
UCpro
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UCpro: 2009-11-29 11:59:36 pm
2009-11-29 11:29:37 pm
World 8-1 in 424

... still working on this level, but i need your suggestions for improvement.  This is the best time i've gotten without losing the propeller.


EDIT: one improvement i want to try is to see if i can triple jump over the lava fountain at :32 ... also, i think it would be better if i dropped down at :49 instead of :51 and also if i dropped down at :53 instead of :55.

Other than that, let me know if there are other possible improvements.  I think a 427 or 428 could be possible with the improvements i just listed.  I'll give this level another shot in the next couple of days.
ALAKTORN
ALAKTORN
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ALAKTORN: 2009-11-30 12:12:03 am
2009-11-30 12:04:40 am
^I agree you should drop down sooner on those jumps, but other than that, it looked like you went full speed... I can't think of any improvement, other than maybe you should try to use the downhills more, like at :36 and :39, delaying the jump so you can use some of that downhill, I don't know if that would be faster though

edit: maybe you could triple jump the lava at :52? at :56 it also looks possible to triple jump it, but I don't know those meteors things pattern so propeller might be the only way
WingedKitsune
2009-11-30 12:09:02 am
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
I just realized.  The Low% Run for this game is going to go through 8-7, my favorite level in the game.

Hard to beat a level where you ride on skeletal dragon over a never ending pool of lava.

That would obviously be the fastest route through World 8.  8-1, 8-2, 8-7, then Doomship.
UCpro
2009-11-30 12:11:53 am
Quote from ALAKTORN:
^I agree you should drop down sooner on those jumps, but other than that, it looked like you went full speed... I can't think of any improvement


yeah, i went basically full speed through the whole level, except for the spots where i was decending after using the propeller.

i just realized it would probably be better to drop down at :57 as well, and then jump off that last platform and propeller up to the pipe.
ALAKTORN
2009-11-30 12:12:29 am
I edited my post, read it again Tongue
UCpro
2009-11-30 12:16:50 am
Quote from ALAKTORN:
I edited my post, read it again Tongue


yup, i'll make sure to use all the downhill running i can once i figure out the best route for this level.

as far as triple jumping over the lava fountains at the end ... i'll test it out, but i don't think it's going to work, not enough room i imagine.  i do think i'll be able to triple jump over the lava fountain at :32 though
neskamikaze
2009-11-30 01:00:41 am
I've got an idea, though I'm not sure if it would work: around :47, where you triple jump and then propeller jump over the two lava towers, you propeller jump right over that Buzzy Beetle. Would you possibly be able to land on the Buzzy Beetle and maybe make it over the lava towers on the slightly lower part of their rise, or at least shorten the time you are in propeller free fall? I'm not exactly sure on the height you get off of bouncing from an enemy, but it looks like it might work.
ALAKTORN
2009-11-30 05:10:14 am
I got an idea for that ghost house level, about the jump falls, maybe you could move to the right earlier if you jump+crouched?
Mr. Piggy
2009-11-30 08:51:42 pm
In the infinite
Well, I've beaten the game, and I only need a few more star coins left (I know exactly where they are) until I can finish world 9. Once I finish world 9, I might begin planning a 100% route. As someone else said, I think the best way to start out would be to do the low% route, but find the secret exit & normal exit on 8-2 and doing all the other levels up to 8-7 along the way, and save whenever possible. I'll have to look into it more once I finish the game though. (I love route planning ;D)
chronorox
2009-11-30 09:35:48 pm
Melbourne, Australia
How many attempts did it take you to get that run down UCpro?

I can only imagine how much luck it would take to get through that level unscathed in a Single Segment run.
UCpro
2009-11-30 11:15:14 pm
Quote from chronorox:
How many attempts did it take you to get that run down UCpro?

I can only imagine how much luck it would take to get through that level unscathed in a Single Segment run.


to get 8-1? ... the odds of getting a good run are about 1 in 20 for that level (all because of the random boulders) ... which is not very good odds for a SS run.  For a SS run, the route might have to be changed just a bit to be a little safer ... or the runner will just have to be more cautious and make small pauses if necessary.

speaking of 8-1, i just got done practicing it and i got a 428 without losing the propeller.  I wasn't recording though, so i don't have a video to show.  Hopefully i can record a 428 run tomorrow.  429 MIGHT be possible, but nothing better than that.  Thankfully this level is at the beginning of segment 4 for the any% run ... so completely random with those falling boulders.
Hb2
2009-12-01 09:24:59 am
I love YaBB 1G - SP1!
What about just jumping through the lava and losing your Propeller Suit? I don't think you're going to use it at 8-2 or 8-7, and you can easily retrieve it at the Doomship. :/
Red_Shifter
2009-12-01 04:30:16 pm
yes, an iron knuckle riding a mechanical horse
It would probably be useful in 8-2 to get across the really fast spinning discs near the end more quickly.
UCpro
2009-12-01 06:37:56 pm
*NEW* World 8-1 in 428 ... almost got 429.  Very good route i think.

Quote from Hb2:
What about just jumping through the lava and losing your Propeller Suit? I don't think you're going to use it at 8-2 or 8-7, and you can easily retrieve it at the Doomship. :/


I found out it's NOT faster jumping through the lava and losing the propeller suit ... it actually might be a little faster, but only by about half a second, which is not worth it at all.
chronorox
2009-12-01 07:23:59 pm
Melbourne, Australia
Nice run! But on a single segment, I'd be prepared to take the hit and roll with it.

So on 8-Doomship, it seems that due a late trigger, no matter how fast you do the level, you'll always have to wait for the green pipe to go around the cannon circle before being able to enter from the top. Anyone found a way around this?
Mr. Piggy
Mr. Piggy
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Mr. Piggy: 2009-12-12 06:23:41 pm
2009-12-01 08:21:44 pm
In the infinite
Ok, now I'm gonna start the 100% route. If anyone has ideas, tips, or changes to the route, I'd be happy to hear 'em. Now as I said before, I think the best way to start the route is to get to bowser as quickly as possible to have the power to save wherever needed. Also, any times I put by the levels are my best times for that level. I'm sure most of my times are pretty beatable because I only gave about 10-20 tries per level. If you have a better time, tell me, and I'll swap it out with mine. I'll be editing this post with whenever I or anyone else finds more segments, better times, or a better route. Sorry, I have no video proof :P.

Segment 1
Intro (I'm pretty sure this is unskippable & you can just quit without saving after the movie and you won't have to watch it again)

Segment 2
1-1> 444 (Neskamikaze)
1-2> 437 (Neskamikaze)
1-3 secret > 442 (I only got 1st 2 coins since you can get the 3rd one on the regular exit)
Canon> World 5

Segment 3
5-1> 410 (pretty bad time)
5-2> 439 or 5-3> 425 (doesn't matter which one you do since you'll be revisiting world 5 later anyway) (5-2 time was by James1987)
5-mini castle> 482

Segment 4
5-4> (I need to watch UCPro's vid again)
5-ghost secret exit>491 (I didn't jump through any of the ghost circles, I waited for the opening)
Canon> World 8

Segment 5
8-1> high 413 (pretty sure 414 is possible, if not higher)
8-2 secret exit> 397 (pretty slow, 1st two coins only)
8-7>334
8-ship> 324 (could've been a lot faster but messed up on the 2nd half of the level, I made it into the spinning pipe 1 second faster        than Chronorox though)

Segment 6
8-Bowser's Castle

*I'm not gonna bother "running" any levels from now on, I'm gonna focus on the route, but if you have a time I'll add it in.*

Segment 7
World 1-Mushroom house, get propellor mushroom then lose.

Segment 8
1-3 (get last star coin)
1-mini castle (535 by Neskamikaze)
1-4 (keep propeller to get the first 2 star coins, then get the ice power up to get the 3rd star coin)

Segment 9
1-6 (350, keep ice flower through the whole level)
1-5 (440, grab 1st propellor mushroom)
1-castle

Segment 10
2-1
2-3
2-mini castle

Segment 11
2-4 (normal exit, all 3 coins)
2-5
2-6 (secret exit)
Canon> World 5

Segment 12
5-2 or 5-3 (whichever one you didn't do earlier)
5-5
5-castle

Segment 13
2-2 (get mini shroom for last coin)
2-6 (normal exit, get a propellor mushroom)
2-4 (secret exit)
Use Pipe
2-castle

Segment 14
3-1 (penguin suit needed for a star coin)
Use Propellor Shroom from inventory between levels
3-2
3-3
3-ghost (secret exit, all coins)
Canon>World 6

Segment 15
6-1
6-3
6-2

Segment 16
6-4
6-mini castle

Segment 17
6-Mushroom House (get penguin suit & propellor suit then lose)

Segment 18
6-5 (2 coins)
6-6 (secret exit, get all 3 coins)
Canon>World 8

Segment 19
8-2 (normal exit, get 3rd coin)
8-3

Segment 20
8-mini castle
8-4

Segment 21
8-5
8-6

Segment 22
3-ghost (normal exit)
3-mini castle
3-4 (all coins, secret exit)

Segment 23
3-5
Hit red switch
3-4 (normal exit)
3-castle

Segment 24
4-1
4-2
4-mini castle (normal exit)
4-mini castle (secret exit)
Canon>World 6

Segment 25
6-5 (secret exit, 3rd coin)
6-castle
6-airship

Segment 26
7-1
7-2
7-3

Segment 27
7-mini castle (secret exit)
7-mini castle (normal exit)
7-6

Segment 28
7-ghost (secret exit)
7-ghost (normal exit)
7-4

Segment 29
7-5
7-castle

Segment 30
4-3 (finish w/ mini shroom)
Use penguin shroom
4-4

Segment 31
Use propellor shroom
4-ghost  (secret exit)
4-ghost (normal exit)
4-5

Segment 32
4-castle
4-airship

Segment 33
9-1
9-2

Segment 34
9-3
9-4

Segment 35
9-7
9-8

Segment 36
9-6
9-5

***Another possible route***

@ Segment 17, only get penguin suit, don't get propellor suit.

Segment 24
4-1
4-2
4-mini castle (secret exit)

Segment 25
4-mini castle (normal exit)
Use penguin suit
4-4
4-3 (end w/ mini shroom)
Canon>World 6

Segment 26
6-5 (secret exit)
6-castle
6-airship

Segment 27
7-1 (regain propellor suit)
7-2
7-3

Segment 27
7-mini castle (secret exit)
7-mini castle (normal exit)
7-6

Segment 28
7-ghost (secret exit)
7-ghost (normal exit)
7-4

Segment 29
7-5
7-castle

Segment 30
4-ghost  (secret exit)
4-ghost (normal exit)
4-5

Segment 31
4-castle
4-airship

Segment 32
9-1
9-2

Segment 33
9-3
9-4

Segment 34
9-7
9-8

Segment 35
9-6
9-5
chronorox
chronorox
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chronorox: 2009-12-01 09:06:34 pm
2009-12-01 08:55:27 pm
Melbourne, Australia
Here's my contribution:

8 Doomship planned route (assuming that the propellor has well and truly been lost thanks to 8-1)

http://www.youtube.com/user/chronorox#p/a/u/0/5BFlFVTq5LQ

Also, my best time for Bowser from the half way mark is 382