Harry Potter:Philosopher's Stone (GBC) Segmented/SS.

2014-04-13 04:24:59 pm

Hey completed another run. Here are the splits (this is a RTA pb btw. I haven't timed the youtube run). I am watching this run and the run on youtube synced up and they are only a few seconds off as of catching norbert on the broom. So the beginning of my run can use a lot of work (the youtube run not the route). Anyway will do more this week.

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psirockin123

2014-04-13 04:43:06 pm

Also I noticed that at least after your detention that a secret passage is open at night. The one behind the griffin on the 2nd floor works (tried it by accident) so either this one or the one in the dungeon (if it works) would be the fastest way up.

psirockin123

2014-04-15 05:44:36 pm

Hey cactus I got your message on twitch. I'm still not sure about the secret passages. I know that I did it out of muscle memory and it worked after detention. I can post a video of it after I get home. I might try a run tonight.

Bobius

2014-04-16 07:07:34 am

I remember playing this game as a kid and getting a glitch that stopped me getting Boomslang skin so I never finished it. Are there multiple categories runnable here (any%/100%) or is it just one possibility?

CactusPiquant

2014-04-16 08:04:37 am

Ok, I should take the time in run to try secret passages in run, because my time is still bad, so it won't change anything.
Feel free tos tream, I will watch you if I can.

Bobius, we are just running any% at the moment. Btw, how will you define 100% in this game?

Bobius

2014-04-16 10:53:40 am

Well that's what I was wondering - is there any other category? Obviously I didn't get far enough to see if there was any possibility.

CactusPiquant

2014-04-16 11:00:13 am

We have to define what do we need for a 100% to run it. All the spells, all the cards, ...
Things like this imo.
Anyway, any% can be improved atm, and maybe we should just focus on it.

Atm, there is no other category I think.

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2014-04-16 11:00:45 am

Well I don't think 100% is possible. The only way you could do 100% is maybe get the good ending which would required doing some missions in order to get the house cup. You could do a collect all wizard cards but that would require 4 separate runs of the game. A more interesting category, although incredibly easy, would be a new game + where you get the good ending on a file and you level up to 99 and then you continue the game from there. With the good ending you get a card combo that lets you keep all you good spells and you keep your level and sickles. Basically this would be how fast can I walk through the game because nothing will kill you.

Also Cactus I don't really stream often. I might tonight if you can watch but I dont know what your time zone is.

Also sniped on this post

CactusPiquant

2014-04-16 11:10:02 am

Oh, forgot all this. So yeah, 100% seems not possible.
I should be able to pass on your stream.

psirockin123

2014-04-16 11:16:17 am

Are you free right now because I might start one soon? I want to do some attempts today

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2014-04-16 11:22:13 am

Yep, Im ok.
I should try another run this week, probably this weekend. I want to sub 2h fast.

Edit : as said in the chat of your stream, more than the snake fangs herb, there is a beetle eyes herb in the same room. Might be interesting. Its in the flying class room.
Also, I will calc soon how many times you have to do Verdimillious Uno to up the spell.

Edit 2 : I thought that you knew about the alternative version of the glitch, that's why I never talked about it. Instead of pushing A and fleeing again, you can push A 3 times (or more) at the begining of the poison damage, and the second turn will start on the first one, which means he's taking the poison damage again, and you're still doing this, etc.
So he just continually taking damage while you push A. The timing has to be good, but if you're failing, should be as if you were doing the glitch normally.
Will show a video after my next run.

psirockin123

2014-04-16 11:24:11 am

Yeah it should happen fast. Once you figure out the route the time drops fast. I should have the stream set up in 5 mins.

Pip_the_Sword

2014-04-16 04:04:00 pm

Glad to see some other runners. thumbsup

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psirockin123: 2014-04-16 04:20:47 pm

2014-04-16 04:18:47 pm

Yeah Pip. Its nice.

Also Cactus Im still not sure what you mean about the glitch but it sounds promising. I'll wait for the video. It sounds like the thing I did accidentally a couple of times but they always attacked me afterwards so I stopped trying to do it. If you can continuously poison an enemy without stopping then that would be great no matter how difficult the timing would be.

Also I checked out the rules on timing and I agree that I stopped the timer too early. I guess I should stop it at the screen where they show what house won the House cup because thats the last input (skipping that screen). What do you think?

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2014-04-16 05:01:09 pm

I think you should split when you are pushing A on the screen you are talking about, yeah.

For the alternative glitch, will made a video on my next run. With the inputs if possible.

psirockin123

2014-04-16 06:22:48 pm

Ok that sounds good. Just had an amazing run die at the end. I had to turn down the volume and I messed up the glitch on the devil's snare. It was his final attack and I was using a pepper-up potion to get ready to kill him. I was about 3 mins ahead and after that point I shouldn't lose much time. Anyway that frustrated me so much that I lost focus and died two more times until I rage quit. I'll think I'll try again tomorrow.

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CactusPiquant: 2014-04-16 07:12:57 pm

2014-04-16 07:02:17 pm

Found a way to softlock the game, that's cool ._.

Oh, that's bad. but it shows that we can improve the current "wr" by a lot atm. And I still think that I will try some new things on the route, specially with this snake fangs herb.

Also, you have to do 50 Verdimillious Uno to have Verdimillious Duo. Just counted it earlier.

psirockin123

2014-04-16 07:34:41 pm

Yeah definitely. And I know the route is not perfect so trying things is good.

I always meant to count the number of spells to level up. Now I wonder if it is the same for Incendio.

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2014-04-16 07:39:18 pm

I never had any problem for incendio so not interesting to count this imo, but why not. Should be the same I think.
Also, at the begining, when you are talking to Nearly-Headless Nick, you can take a pepper-up potion just behind the sphinx (really close to Nick).

Edit : we can't take items from herbs before the end of the potions class, so my hopes with the snake fangs herb disapeared u_u

psirockin123

2014-04-17 12:05:44 pm

Yeah I wouldn't count incendio either. Just curious. Also yeah you can't take herbs before potions class. I thought the location was inside the castle so I didn't say anything. There might be one in the castle that you can get on the way to griffindor or on the way to potions. We'd just have to find it.

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2014-04-17 03:01:54 pm

I made a run, with a really really bad rng (in my opinion), and I still made some mistakes. It was 2h01 RTA (1h56 ig time I think).
I'm highlighting the alternative glitch. There is no inputs because my computer was laggy, so didn't try to pu them (dunno how to do it with VBA, I'm doing it with another program).
Will edit to show this.

Edit : here is the video, sorry for the bad sound :
http://www.twitch.tv/cactusjacques/c/4084640

psirockin123

2014-04-18 11:07:42 am

Wow. So I just watched your highlight and that was pretty amazing. It is basically what I did accidentally multiple times but never found a consistent way to do it. I think this was is definitely faster but I notice that is does lag the game a lot. Also mashing a at the end of the fight lags the game too so i wait until the results screen is about to show up and then mash.

I'll have to practice this now. How tricky is the timing or is it just mashing?

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CactusPiquant: 2014-04-18 11:48:46 am

2014-04-18 11:48:07 am

Really easy, and if you're failing, it's as if you were doing the way you found. Just push A 3 times at the beginning of the poison damage. If you push A too late, will be as the glitch you were using I think.
And yeah, I noticed that it's lagging at the end on this run, will be careful for next attempts.

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CactusPiquant: 2014-04-21 08:15:58 pm

2014-04-21 08:15:10 pm

Got a good run tonight, Psirockin was here but I'm posting for others.
1:54:22 RTA (1:48:15 in game time). Best known time, but still improvable by a lot, so won't stay for long (Psirockin, go for it. Will be good to up our respective levels by beating each other again and again).
The description of the video is all I have to say :
"Can still improve the run by at least 2-3 minutes with the current route. And the route can be improved too I think. But that's a good start. Not major mistakes, RNG = quite good except the keys at the end, alternative glitch is definitely ok, same for the death warp to enter the forbidden corridor at the end."

I think I'm done with this route. I mean, more than running again, I will probably search ways to save time (except if psirockin beat my time). Maybe we can skip the Malefoy cutscene before giving the dragon. And an awesome thing will be to outspeed the chicken before the farm (or at least in the middle of the farm, after getting some levels). These 3 chickens attacks are just too long. Don't know if it's possible, but will work on it.

Also, the emulator which is usually used for running is Gambatte, so I passed on it (and my pb was done with Gambatte). The fact is that VBA doesn't have a consistent frame rate.

That's all for now, I hope I will find again something here.

Got a good run tonight, Psirockin was here but I'm posting for others.
1:54:22 RTA (1:48:15 in game time). Best known time, but still improvable by a lot, so won't stay for long (Psirockin, go for it. Will be good to up our respective levels by beating each other again and again).
The description of the video is all I have to say : 
"Can still improve the run by at least 2-3 minutes with the current route. And the route can be improved too I think. But that's a good start. Not major mistakes, RNG = quite good except the keys at the end, alternative glitch is definitely ok, same for the death warp to enter the forbidden corridor at the end."

I think I'm done with this route. I mean, more than running again, I will probably search ways to save time (except if psirockin beat my time). Maybe we can skip the Malefoy cutscene before giving the dragon. And an awesome thing will be to outspeed the chicken before the farm (or at least in the middle of the farm, after getting some levels). These 3 chickens attacks are just too long. Don't know if it's possible, but will work on it.

Also, the emulator which is usually used for running is Gambatte, so I passed on it (and my pb was done with Gambatte). The fact is that VBA doesn't have a consistent  frame rate.

That's all for now, I hope I will find again something here.

Santeego

2014-04-24 12:11:09 pm

Holy beejesus an active thread about speedrunning my favorite GBC game...can't pass this up.
I've never done an official recorded speedrun but I was beating this game in ~5 hours when I
was a kid on my GBC. I think its time to give it another whirl. I'll give it a whirl in between studying
for finals and see where I'll be starting from Cheesy