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I think Microsoft should help Nintendo to hurt Sony, and put Master Chief in Brawl.
NEWCOMER: MASTER CHIEF.
Oh, and Nintendo should pay 1 Billion to get Cloud and Sephiroth in it.
Then Brawl would go down in history as the greatest game and fanboy work ever. The internet would erupt into a massive flame war and everyone would be consumed by Smash. It's a lot like trapper-keeper.
NEWCOMER: MASTER CHIEF.
Oh, and Nintendo should pay 1 Billion to get Cloud and Sephiroth in it.
Then Brawl would go down in history as the greatest game and fanboy work ever. The internet would erupt into a massive flame war and everyone would be consumed by Smash. It's a lot like trapper-keeper.
I wonder how many versions of Mario there will be in this one;
Mario, Docter Mario, Paper Mario, Tiny Mario, Fire Mario, Ballon Mario, 8-bit Mario, 16-bit Mario, Mario without a cap, Super Mario, Koopa Mario, RPG Mario, Metal Mario, Mario with a paper bag on him, Spanish Mario, Mario Referee, Mario in a kart, Robo Mario, Baby Mario, Mario from the future, Mario with multi-items such as Fludd and a shotgun...
Luigi doesn't count; in SSBM, he went WAY TOO FAR and created his own Luigi Physics. Wairo'll probably be the same (except for the Luigi physics).
Mario, Docter Mario, Paper Mario, Tiny Mario, Fire Mario, Ballon Mario, 8-bit Mario, 16-bit Mario, Mario without a cap, Super Mario, Koopa Mario, RPG Mario, Metal Mario, Mario with a paper bag on him, Spanish Mario, Mario Referee, Mario in a kart, Robo Mario, Baby Mario, Mario from the future, Mario with multi-items such as Fludd and a shotgun...
Luigi doesn't count; in SSBM, he went WAY TOO FAR and created his own Luigi Physics. Wairo'll probably be the same (except for the Luigi physics).
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I lol'd at ROB and missingno, but some of those would actually be kinda cool and realistic in all seriousness, like Sami, Felix, Isaac. Then there are things like Little Mac, Dedede, and Skull Kid that would just be funny.
Strangeness: But given this year's E3, Smash effect is pretty much disproven! (I know that's not what you meant but I had to say it)
Strangeness: But given this year's E3, Smash effect is pretty much disproven! (I know that's not what you meant but I had to say it)
Rock on, Earthbound. Rock on.
This post quoted word for word from a post on a seperate forum.
"I suppose I can share with you "The List".
Megaman (Megaman)
Claus (MOTHER 3)
Lucas (MOTHER 3)
King K. Rool (DK Country)
King Dedede (Kirby)
Geno (SMB RPG)
Professor Kawashima (Brain Age)
Kalas (Batten Kaitos)
Sigurd (Fire Emblem)
Black Shadow (F-Zero)
Dragon Chan (Super Punch-Out!!!)
G-Red (Gotchaforce)
Hammer Bros. (Super Mario Bros.)
Oguma (Fire Emblem)
Captain Olimar (Pikmin)
Lip (Panel de Pon)
Ike (Fire Emblem)
Black Knight (Fire Emblem)
Toad (Super Mario Bros. 2)
Lolo and Lala (Kirby)
Simon Belmont (Castlevania)
Ray 01 (Custom Robo)
Princess Katia (Lost Kingdom)
Sukapon (Joy Mecha Fight)
Colonel Volgin (Metal Gear Solid 3)
Lupus (Jet Force Gemini)
Ganondorf/Ganon (Legend of Zelda)
#111 Cat eye Link?
Link (Wind Waker)
Ninten (MOTHER)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Ridley (Metroid)
Takamaru (Nazo no Murasamejou)
What does this list represent? Why it represents all the characters that Sakurai IS considering for Super Smash Bros. Brawl! Yeah, a lot of them are from games that you've probalby never heard of...and if I could get my word out to Sakurai *I know neither his E-mail address, or his Mailing adress to Japan, and I can't find it anywhere*, I'd be recommending a few things myself, in a very detailed and well thought-out letter.
Because he's actually paying attention to those. This list is mostly made up of characters that those crazy Japanese sent in to him, and if we can get a hold of his e-mail or his Mailbox, we crazy Americans *And you crazy Englishmen too!* can send in all of our own crazy ideas! :3 Get to work, peeps! Find that address!
Please."
The List is much more extensive than I thought it would be, and there's lots of good news on it. If we can get that address, we can add our voices to the call.
As a side note, it's also been confirmed that there will be old characters who are cut out of the game. More than likely, they will include all of the clones, except for those that can be sufficiently un-cloned.
That is all.
"I suppose I can share with you "The List".
Megaman (Megaman)
Claus (MOTHER 3)
Lucas (MOTHER 3)
King K. Rool (DK Country)
King Dedede (Kirby)
Geno (SMB RPG)
Professor Kawashima (Brain Age)
Kalas (Batten Kaitos)
Sigurd (Fire Emblem)
Black Shadow (F-Zero)
Dragon Chan (Super Punch-Out!!!)
G-Red (Gotchaforce)
Hammer Bros. (Super Mario Bros.)
Oguma (Fire Emblem)
Captain Olimar (Pikmin)
Lip (Panel de Pon)
Ike (Fire Emblem)
Black Knight (Fire Emblem)
Toad (Super Mario Bros. 2)
Lolo and Lala (Kirby)
Simon Belmont (Castlevania)
Ray 01 (Custom Robo)
Princess Katia (Lost Kingdom)
Sukapon (Joy Mecha Fight)
Colonel Volgin (Metal Gear Solid 3)
Lupus (Jet Force Gemini)
Ganondorf/Ganon (Legend of Zelda)
#111 Cat eye Link?
Link (Wind Waker)
Ninten (MOTHER)
Sora (Kingdom Hearts)
Ridley (Metroid)
Takamaru (Nazo no Murasamejou)
What does this list represent? Why it represents all the characters that Sakurai IS considering for Super Smash Bros. Brawl! Yeah, a lot of them are from games that you've probalby never heard of...and if I could get my word out to Sakurai *I know neither his E-mail address, or his Mailing adress to Japan, and I can't find it anywhere*, I'd be recommending a few things myself, in a very detailed and well thought-out letter.
Because he's actually paying attention to those. This list is mostly made up of characters that those crazy Japanese sent in to him, and if we can get a hold of his e-mail or his Mailbox, we crazy Americans *And you crazy Englishmen too!* can send in all of our own crazy ideas! :3 Get to work, peeps! Find that address!
Please."
The List is much more extensive than I thought it would be, and there's lots of good news on it. If we can get that address, we can add our voices to the call.
As a side note, it's also been confirmed that there will be old characters who are cut out of the game. More than likely, they will include all of the clones, except for those that can be sufficiently un-cloned.
That is all.
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Why it represents all the characters that Sakurai IS considering for Super Smash Bros. Brawl!
Besides the fact that "some guy on a forum I go to" is by far not a valid source, there's a key word right there anyway.
And do you have any source for the second assertion too? I definitely need conformation for anything Smash Bros. related, given the fertile ground for rumor-mongering it provides.
Rock on, Earthbound. Rock on.
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Besides the fact that "some guy on a forum I go to" is by far not a valid source, there's a key word right there anyway.
And do you have any source for the second assertion too? I definitely need conformation for anything Smash Bros. related, given the fertile ground for rumor-mongering it provides.
I know that considering isn't a character list, I never said "ALL THESE CHARACTERS ARE IN TEH GAME OMFG!", I just said I was posting this here as well.
As for a source for the list, http://www.smashbros.com/jp/toukou/bn/list.html
Have fun with Japanese. Btw, also on the japanese site for either Smash or the Smash section on the official Nintendo site, there's a form to put in your suggestions for characters to add to consideration, which to my understanding are evaluated by Sakurai and/or his staff as they come.
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...wait, what? Please tell me if I read you incorrectly; they're going to cut some of the characters present in the past titles? I hope not too many...
Many of the clone characters are legitimate inclusions, and, were they to be given a sufficient threshold of unique and appropriate moves, would be terribly missed. For instance, Ganondorf is a pure clone, but we certainly can't remove him.
That being said, I'm assuming, if my interpretation of your post is not terribly flawed, he's only considering characters like maybe Dr. Mario or Pichu.... man, oh man, that ole' Pichu. :-/
Still, I hope they do not remove Falco, Young Link, or Roy/Marth; I highly doubt directly porting them from past incarnations would tax the Wii entirely too much, anyway. Sure, the size of the character select screen, the diversity of the arenas and storymodes, and the possibility of oversaturation may be concerns, but I think removing too many of these characters would be a drastic negligence...
EDIT: On second thought... I'm going to keep an open mind. Maybe if enough major mascots, such as Sonic, Sora, and others are included, having minor ones scattered throughout might be somewhat silly... we'll see.
Analysis of list: Haha; I like how Lupus was mentioned (and neither Juno nor Vela). Kalas? Nah... too much like a cross between Pit and Marth/Roy/Link; that is, unless he uses cards as weapons. Hammer Bros? What? Would they be some sort of mutated clones of the Ice Climbers? Hooray for Geno and Captain Olimar, though!!! Still, I'm guessing this list isn't including characters upon whom they've already secretly decided... like Sonic. Hehe.
Many of the clone characters are legitimate inclusions, and, were they to be given a sufficient threshold of unique and appropriate moves, would be terribly missed. For instance, Ganondorf is a pure clone, but we certainly can't remove him.
That being said, I'm assuming, if my interpretation of your post is not terribly flawed, he's only considering characters like maybe Dr. Mario or Pichu.... man, oh man, that ole' Pichu. :-/
Still, I hope they do not remove Falco, Young Link, or Roy/Marth; I highly doubt directly porting them from past incarnations would tax the Wii entirely too much, anyway. Sure, the size of the character select screen, the diversity of the arenas and storymodes, and the possibility of oversaturation may be concerns, but I think removing too many of these characters would be a drastic negligence...
EDIT: On second thought... I'm going to keep an open mind. Maybe if enough major mascots, such as Sonic, Sora, and others are included, having minor ones scattered throughout might be somewhat silly... we'll see.
Analysis of list: Haha; I like how Lupus was mentioned (and neither Juno nor Vela). Kalas? Nah... too much like a cross between Pit and Marth/Roy/Link; that is, unless he uses cards as weapons. Hammer Bros? What? Would they be some sort of mutated clones of the Ice Climbers? Hooray for Geno and Captain Olimar, though!!! Still, I'm guessing this list isn't including characters upon whom they've already secretly decided... like Sonic. Hehe.
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Shigeru would be GOD in this game.
No no NO!
The man should be toting a Power Glove and a Nintendo Zapper, dammit!
And Sora in Super Smash Brothers Brawl... I can REALLY see that happening since Sora has such an insane movelist anyway across both KH 1 and 2. ESPECIALLY two. Hell, the kid's got MAD SKILL. I know if some 15 year old came to my town and started kicking nobody ass like he does, shit...
Editted: The worst typo ever.
Rock on, Earthbound. Rock on.
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...wait, what? Please tell me if I read you incorrectly; they're going to cut some of the characters present in the past titles? I hope not too many...
Many of the clone characters are legitimate inclusions, and, were they to be given a sufficient threshold of unique and appropriate moves, would be terribly missed. For instance, Ganondorf is a pure clone, but we certainly can't remove him.
That being said, I'm assuming, if my interpretation of your post is not terribly flawed, he's only considering characters like maybe Dr. Mario or Pichu.... man, oh man, that ole' Pichu. :-/
Still, I hope they do not remove Falco, Young Link, or Roy/Marth; I highly doubt directly porting them from past incarnations would tax the Wii entirely too much, anyway. Sure, the size of the character select screen, the diversity of the arenas and storymodes, and the possibility of oversaturation may be concerns, but I think removing too many of these characters would be a drastic negligence...
EDIT: On second thought... I'm going to keep an open mind. Maybe if enough major mascots, such as Sonic, Sora, and others are included, having minor ones scattered throughout might be somewhat silly... we'll see.
Analysis of list: Haha; I like how Lupus was mentioned (and neither Juno nor Vela). Kalas? Nah... too much like a cross between Pit and Marth/Roy/Link; that is, unless he uses cards as weapons. Hammer Bros? What? Would they be some sort of mutated clones of the Ice Climbers? Hooray for Geno and Captain Olimar, though!!! Still, I'm guessing this list isn't including characters upon whom they've already secretly decided... like Sonic. Hehe.
Many of the clone characters are legitimate inclusions, and, were they to be given a sufficient threshold of unique and appropriate moves, would be terribly missed. For instance, Ganondorf is a pure clone, but we certainly can't remove him.
That being said, I'm assuming, if my interpretation of your post is not terribly flawed, he's only considering characters like maybe Dr. Mario or Pichu.... man, oh man, that ole' Pichu. :-/
Still, I hope they do not remove Falco, Young Link, or Roy/Marth; I highly doubt directly porting them from past incarnations would tax the Wii entirely too much, anyway. Sure, the size of the character select screen, the diversity of the arenas and storymodes, and the possibility of oversaturation may be concerns, but I think removing too many of these characters would be a drastic negligence...
EDIT: On second thought... I'm going to keep an open mind. Maybe if enough major mascots, such as Sonic, Sora, and others are included, having minor ones scattered throughout might be somewhat silly... we'll see.
Analysis of list: Haha; I like how Lupus was mentioned (and neither Juno nor Vela). Kalas? Nah... too much like a cross between Pit and Marth/Roy/Link; that is, unless he uses cards as weapons. Hammer Bros? What? Would they be some sort of mutated clones of the Ice Climbers? Hooray for Geno and Captain Olimar, though!!! Still, I'm guessing this list isn't including characters upon whom they've already secretly decided... like Sonic. Hehe.
Actually, the entire list on the website is well over 100 characters long already. This is just a sampling of what's being kicked around.
Yeah. Thought you'd like that. As for characters being cut, we can only assume at this point. Who knows, it's early enoguh, they might decide not to cut anyone in the end. We just have to wait and see. Though I do imagine Doc, Pichu, Falco, Roy, and Young Link are all pretty much on the chopping block (Ganondorf I would be very suprised if he disappeared completey, though I'd be equally suprised if he was kept without a extensively changed movelist).
Psychochild: Don't forget the most important part. He kicks ass with a GIANT KEY while wearing CLOWN SHOES. Yeah, Sora wins.
Sora doesn't seem like he is really an appropriate character. Didn't he appear in 2 PS2 games and one GBA game that wasn't nearly as popular as the PS2 ones? I don't think he would really fit.
Also, Ganondorf isn't really a clone. He shares exactly 4 moves with Captain Falcon, the B moves. Do it, check out his A moves. They are 100% different, and that's a lot. A(neutral), ftilt, utilt, dtilt, fsmash, dsmash, usmash, uair, nair, fair, bair, and dair. That's 12 unique moves and 4 shared ones. His throws are as different as throws come too, but a lot of characters have similar throws so take it as yo will there. And of course his taunt is nothing like Captain Falcons...
Then again, if you hack SSBM, you can see that Ganondorf was at one point intended to have a sword(one of his three victory things shows him with it mysteriously). Odds are they had a lot of trouble balancing it(his power plus a sword makes him broken beyond broken in a free for all and top tier in a 1v1). However, I wouldn't rule out Ganondorf using a sword in this one, espeically if he uses one in twilight princess.
Odds are Falco will stay with a giant movepool change. Falco is Fox's top wingman and the 2nd most important character to the starfox series next to Fox himself. Don't even say Krystal because Falco had a huge role at the end of SFA, Falco was shown to be generally more worthwhile in Star Fox Assult(Krystal had Slippy like piloting skills!), and Falco actually appeared in Star Fox(SNES) and Star Fox 64. Plus Falco has the cool factor- this is probably the main reason he is constantly emphasized over Slippy and Peppy. I actually like Slippy a lot more than Falco, but Slippy is made to be semi-comic relief.
*STAR FOX ASSULT RANDOM SPOILERS SINCE PEOPLE PLAY THAT GAME FOR STORY*
Peppy is just plain annoying every time he appears, and I was so happy when he "died" in assult. Him not actually being dead ruined the ending for me. Yeah, I predict Falco to be virtually a new character with his moves, but he will probably still appear.
*END OF RANDOM UNIMPORTANT SPOILERS*
As per the others, Doc is a joke who should have been an alternate costume, Young Link didn't make anyone smile, and they seem to want to use TP characters in this one(WW Link over Young Link is remotely possible, however), and Pichu was in there for the sole reason of making a mockery out of Pokemon. As per Marth and Roy, I could see both re-appearing with each receiving a major overhaul(Marth losing how insanely good he is and Roy being decloned) or Roy might just disappear. Who knows?
Also, Ganondorf isn't really a clone. He shares exactly 4 moves with Captain Falcon, the B moves. Do it, check out his A moves. They are 100% different, and that's a lot. A(neutral), ftilt, utilt, dtilt, fsmash, dsmash, usmash, uair, nair, fair, bair, and dair. That's 12 unique moves and 4 shared ones. His throws are as different as throws come too, but a lot of characters have similar throws so take it as yo will there. And of course his taunt is nothing like Captain Falcons...
Then again, if you hack SSBM, you can see that Ganondorf was at one point intended to have a sword(one of his three victory things shows him with it mysteriously). Odds are they had a lot of trouble balancing it(his power plus a sword makes him broken beyond broken in a free for all and top tier in a 1v1). However, I wouldn't rule out Ganondorf using a sword in this one, espeically if he uses one in twilight princess.
Odds are Falco will stay with a giant movepool change. Falco is Fox's top wingman and the 2nd most important character to the starfox series next to Fox himself. Don't even say Krystal because Falco had a huge role at the end of SFA, Falco was shown to be generally more worthwhile in Star Fox Assult(Krystal had Slippy like piloting skills!), and Falco actually appeared in Star Fox(SNES) and Star Fox 64. Plus Falco has the cool factor- this is probably the main reason he is constantly emphasized over Slippy and Peppy. I actually like Slippy a lot more than Falco, but Slippy is made to be semi-comic relief.
*STAR FOX ASSULT RANDOM SPOILERS SINCE PEOPLE PLAY THAT GAME FOR STORY*
Peppy is just plain annoying every time he appears, and I was so happy when he "died" in assult. Him not actually being dead ruined the ending for me. Yeah, I predict Falco to be virtually a new character with his moves, but he will probably still appear.
*END OF RANDOM UNIMPORTANT SPOILERS*
As per the others, Doc is a joke who should have been an alternate costume, Young Link didn't make anyone smile, and they seem to want to use TP characters in this one(WW Link over Young Link is remotely possible, however), and Pichu was in there for the sole reason of making a mockery out of Pokemon. As per Marth and Roy, I could see both re-appearing with each receiving a major overhaul(Marth losing how insanely good he is and Roy being decloned) or Roy might just disappear. Who knows?