What's with the Pikmin 1 speed run? Is an improvement possible?

ferrishthefish

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ferrishthefish: 2014-05-29 04:05:38 pm

ferrishthefish: 2014-05-29 04:04:26 pm

ferrishthefish: 2014-05-29 04:04:09 pm

ferrishthefish: 2014-05-29 04:03:36 pm

2014-05-29 04:03:07 pm

Goal: 1-seg 6-day Pikmin Speedrun

New runner interested in a 1-seg 6-day Pikmin run on NTSC. Based on himajin's unsubmitted segmented run, it seems possible to get down in the range of 1:03 (although I respect the RNG-dependence of especially Day 2).

I'm experimenting with routes, but I don't see myself making any major improvements to himajin. I'll get to work if nobody has any objections before I finish (probably ... one year from now so plenty of time LOL).

himajin's run: www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4127153E492643E5

TheMG2

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TheMG2: 2014-05-29 04:13:25 pm

2014-05-29 04:10:30 pm

While 6 day is the fewest number of days to complete the game in, it is likely that it is not the fastest number of days to complete the game in real time, because it might require you to wait on day 1 to flower all of your pikmin.

You should talk to staff and people from the community about whether SDA should have both real time, and fewest days runs.

ferrishthefish

2014-05-29 04:28:39 pm

Goal: 1-seg 6-day Pikmin Speedrun

Quote from TheMG2:

... it might require you to wait on day 1 to flower all of your pikmin.

It can actually be done without flowering the pikmin on Day 1. There is nectar right by the ship on Day 2, and himajin managed to use it to flower his 28 reds and still complete the area in one day.

Just adding up himajin's video segment times (minus the final cutscene) comes out to about 1:03, so I truly believe that a 6-day run is faster both in-game and real time.

TheMG2

2014-05-29 04:31:01 pm

Huh, I could have sworn there were issues with real time versus number of days somewhere. Maybe that was only for single segment? (though lol the thought of doing 6 day SS)

ferrishthefish

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ferrishthefish: 2014-05-30 06:55:42 am

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2014-05-29 04:40:02 pm

Goal: 1-seg 6-day Pikmin Speedrun

From my observations and experiments thus far, Day 2 is the hardest day because it requires luck in three distinct places: the nectar near the ship, the snagret battle, and the nectar near the snagret. If you're lucky, you finish with the end-of-day countdown at 4 LOL.

himajin's first 6-day run did flower all the pikmin on Day 1, and it seems that is the one people are aware of. I linked to an updated but unsubmitted run where the pikmin are flowered on Day 2. (English question: Is "flowered" the opposite of "deflowered" in the English language?)

I expect that even with near-perfect play, the chance of 1-seg success is still really low ... but that person in my gut tells me to try anyways.

EDIT: With 2 memory cards, I can have saved files for all 6 days to practice whichever I want. So I will do a segmented run first most likely.

CaptainX24

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CaptainX24: 2014-06-18 04:56:04 pm

2014-06-18 04:55:53 pm

ferrish, if you're seriously considering single segment running, you're probably far better off starting with 8-day and working your way down. So far, I don't think there's even been a 7-day single segment completed yet, though some runners are toying with it.

Also, you may want to consider the Wii version. 6-day was proven to be possible there, and this single segment run (9 days) has a lot of very interesting tricks.

JizoLuigi is one of the only Wii version runners, and his videos should be of great help if you're interested in that. The reason I mention this is because it seems like 6-day SS on Wii is more feasible than on GC.

MrDodiou

2014-09-06 02:18:57 pm

I just completed a 7 day single-segment speedrun!! Final time of 1:09:34 on NTSC version. I've been having difficulty converting the file size to something upload-able, but it should be up soon.

PiePusher11

2014-09-23 06:50:09 am

I'm currently working on an improvement to the 50-pikmin run that's on SDA right now. The biggest time save, of course, will be not flowering everyone on day 1 (by no means is that necessary, it hardly saves any time whatsoever). It's also going to be a single-segment run. I'm mostly using Dragorn's route, with some changes to reflect how the game has changed since 2006 (like bombing the watergate, and the Chronos Reactor clip, etc). If I can't get a run finished soon, I'd like to at least get a video of each day, using my route, to see what people think of the route, and if anyone can see any potential improvements to it.