Twilight Princess (GCN)

2011-11-19 03:57:25 pm

umad

Haha, thanks, I've only been playing for about a month (I started my first full playthrough of TP ever on October 12 this year), so I'm pretty surprised myself that I managed to get a sub 5 on my first completed run.

Interslice

2011-11-19 04:39:10 pm

Yeah, it took me forever to get sub 5-hours. I would always be about a minute over 5 hours, and then one night I got a 4:39. Then I got a 4:27 in my next run, so I became used to shaving off like 10 minutes at a time. You'll probably be at sub 4-hours quicker than you think.

Interslice

2011-11-19 11:29:52 pm

God dammit! Fuck Scumbo the Walrus! He just killed my run!

ING-X

2011-11-20 03:35:58 am

umad

wat

ING-X

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ING-X: 2011-11-20 10:12:38 am

2011-11-20 10:12:24 am

umad

Ugh, I'm not sure if I can do RTA of this game; I might try single segment instead. BiT kills like 90% of my runs, and resetting is really painful because I have to erase my disc every time. To put it in perspective, today I took 3 hours to get a run past S&S skip. Of those 40+ attempts, only 3 made it past BiT. Unless a reliable method is found for BiT, it's probably just too much. Sad

Manocheese

2011-11-20 12:53:53 pm

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

Why do you have to erase your disc? You can just keep playing, then cut off the failed attempts when you're done.

ING-X

2011-11-20 12:56:44 pm

umad

Because if I have an hour of failed attempts on one disc, then I have to switch discs after 1 hour instead of after 2, etc.

I really want to do RTA if I run this game; bokoblin pushing is really hard for me and I like being able to savewarp in dungeons, plus the time is lower which is the goal in a speed run. Back in time is just so hard though =[

DJS

2011-11-20 01:13:18 pm

torch slug since 2006

just record with a capture card, you have a dazzle right?

ING-X

2011-11-20 01:23:12 pm

umad

Capture cards are notorious for badly dropping frames unless your computer is ungodly fast (and even then you have a chance of dropping frames). Plus, that would mean I couldn't use disc switches, which I need to take breaks since I rarely have 4+ hour time blocks.

Miles

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Miles: 2011-11-20 03:24:02 pm

2011-11-20 03:23:49 pm

Quote from ING-X:

Because if I have an hour of failed attempts on one disc, then I have to switch discs after 1 hour instead of after 2, etc.

So?

UraniumAnchor

2011-11-20 03:54:11 pm

Not a walrus

My laptop is like four years old and doesn't drop frames on an SD capture. Is your computer older than that?

ING-X

2011-11-20 03:59:42 pm

umad

Quote from Miles:

Quote from ING-X:

Because if I have an hour of failed attempts on one disc, then I have to switch discs after 1 hour instead of after 2, etc.

So?

Don't disc switches have to be 2/4/6/etc. hours into a run for it to be acceptable?

Manocheese

2011-11-20 04:00:42 pm

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

No, you don't have to always switch discs at the same part of the run. If your DVD recorder displays the amount of time you've been recording, just keep an eye on it and find a place to pause and switch when you're near 2 hours on the disc, regardless of where you are in the run.

Miles

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Miles: 2011-11-20 04:01:06 pm

2011-11-20 04:00:48 pm

...No. I'm working on MP1 100%, and I could fit the entire run on one disc if I wanted to, but I'm still switching after an hour because having to restart the recording after every failed attempt would be stupid.

ING-X

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ING-X: 2011-11-20 04:08:28 pm

2011-11-20 04:01:56 pm

umad

Oh, ok, that sounds fine then. I will definitely be doing that for the sake of sanity, lol.

THENINTENDOLUMINARY

2011-11-20 08:23:59 pm

Hey guys anything interesting happen since I was last here?

ING-X

2011-11-20 09:20:49 pm

umad

Alright, Logitech gave me some advice for BiT (waiting for a couple seconds before jumping off the bridge to give yourself some time to prepare for the timing) and I'm getting it a lot more consistent now. I will definitely be doing RTA if Flip allows it (still waiting on that ruling from him, lol).

The only problem is, since the BiT route doesn't get the orange rupee behind the house in Ordon, you need to have 70R by the end of snowboarding, then get the orange rupee from Snowpeak (170R), the 50R chest from the bulblin camp (220R), and 80R from AG. However, if you don't have 70R by the end of snowboarding, you need to get the random orange rupee from Snowpeak, which almost never appears in my experience. I've lost a lot of runs to not getting enough rupees from snowboarding and getting unlucky with the Snowpeak rupee drop. Is there anything I could do to make this easier without losing too much time? I thought about getting the 2 yellow rupees from the roof of the house in Ordon before or after sumoing, but I don't know if tht would be too slow or if it would even help at all.

Alright, Logitech gave me some advice for BiT (waiting for a couple seconds before jumping off the bridge to give yourself some time to prepare for the timing) and I'm getting it a lot more consistent now. I will definitely be doing RTA if Flip allows it (still waiting on that ruling from him, lol).

The only problem is, since the BiT route doesn't get the orange rupee behind the house in Ordon, you need to have 70R by the end of snowboarding, then get the orange rupee from Snowpeak (170R), the 50R chest from the bulblin camp (220R), and 80R from AG. However, if you don't have 70R by the end of snowboarding, you need to get the random orange rupee from Snowpeak, which almost never appears in my experience. I've lost a lot of runs to not getting enough rupees from snowboarding and getting unlucky with the Snowpeak rupee drop. Is there anything I could do to make this easier without losing too much time? I thought about getting the 2 yellow rupees from the roof of the house in Ordon before or after sumoing, but I don't know if tht would be too slow or if it would even help at all.

logitechSDAZ

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logitechSDAZ: 2011-11-20 11:04:02 pm

logitechSDAZ: 2011-11-20 11:03:29 pm

2011-11-20 11:02:17 pm

Quote from ING-X:

Is there anything I could do to make this easier without losing too much time? I thought about getting the 2 yellow rupees from the roof of the house in Ordon before or after sumoing, but I don't know if tht would be too slow or if it would even help at all.

After king bulblin with bombs, there is a boulder close by that you can destroy for 2 yellow rupees.

ING-X

2011-11-21 09:03:46 am

umad

Ah ok, that helps. Isn't there also 3 or 4 guaranteed blue rupees in Lakebed? I'm usually only 40 rupees short, so that would probably be enough to cover whatever I'm missing.

Surreal

2011-11-21 11:14:01 am

dabes

There's a red ruppee on the roof above Fyre (I think it's red...), if you don't get that one already. Just gotta boomerang it down.

Interslice

2011-11-21 05:43:31 pm

There are 2 orange ruppies in Snowpeak. There is the one in the first room and the one in the room after Darkhammer.

ING-X

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ING-X: 2011-11-21 05:51:14 pm

2011-11-21 05:50:04 pm

umad

I know, I have to get both if I don't get enough rupees from snowboarding. The yellow rupees on top of the house and the red one above fyer are enough to make it so I don't need the random one, though.

I'm honestly thinking of just doing single segment for a while and maybe RTA at a later date; even with logitech's BiT strat I still can't get it consistent enough to be able to get a run far enough in.

ING-X

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ING-X: 2011-11-23 05:31:25 pm

2011-11-23 05:11:46 pm

umad

Again sorry for the double post, but I still don't know if edits show up as new unread posts (can anyone confirm this for me?).

After a lot of thought and frustration, I think I'm going to stop running Twilight Princess, at least for a while. Things like goat herding and tears of light just ruin the game for me, and I don't think I can do it anymore Sad

Hopefully Rob, Pheenoh, or Interslice will be able to eventually get a submittable single segment run for this game, so good luck to them (they'll need it lol).

I might come back to the game after a while, but I at least need a break right now.

Interslice

2011-11-23 05:58:51 pm

Thanks Ing. A break may be just what you need. Play another game for awhile, then come back to TP refreshed. It helps me a lot.

Good luck.

Mystery

2011-11-25 02:57:14 am

Quote from ING-X:

Again sorry for the double post, but I still don't know if edits show up as new unread posts (can anyone confirm this for me?).

I thought I already did.
Yes, the forum does that.