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Does anyone know of any smaller Diabetes charities that might be a good fit for this marathon?
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Augora: 2012-10-05 01:00:43 pm
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There is Diabetes Research and Wellness. http://www.diabeteswellness.net/ if you want to look at them.

EDIT: Here is one for Juvenile Diabetes. JDRF is the charity. http://www.jdrf.org/
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As for the party, how much will that affect the duration of the run?

If it's Origins, it would add a bunch of time, so I'll probably stick to my 2 Fighter, 1 Red Mage, 1 Black Mage party.

If it's PSP I could work around it because of the equipment glitch.

Example: If Meta trolls me hard for 4 Thieves, I would still have Judgment Staff available, and once I get the class change, Barbarian's Sword would be available. Up until the Barbarian's Sword, I'd have to settle for basic weapons, but I wouldn't have any trouble surviving since I'll have Fire/Ice/Lightning elemental protection with the Dragon's Mail (and it has more defense than the Knight's Armor, which is just as easy to get). I still have Flare spamming as a fallback if neccesary. Healing would be a problem for Chaos, since Ninjas have none, and I may have to farm Tiamat2 for some Rune Staff action. I don't recall if I could buy any Elixirs at this point, they may be Soul of Chaos-access only.

Example 2: Meta trolls me even harder and gives me 4 White Mages. I wouldn't be able to get the Barbarian's Sword at all, though I could turn the two Protect Cloaks I find into Excaliburs, and I'll still have the Masamune as well. Three attackers will fare better than one against Chaos, and I could spam Healga for healing. Defensively I'll have a lot of options, since Maximillian, Lordly Robes, and Thief's Armlet are available. No problems surviving, but offense would suffer. I would still have Flare spamming as a fallback if necessary.

Example 3: Meta pulls the ultimate troll and gives me 4 Black Mages. They'll fare best with Flare spamming since they have the highest intelligence, and once I get the Mystic Key I could make a small backtrack to Astos to get the Power Staff and turn that into the Maximillian for defense. No Barbarian's Sword, but they'll get the Excaliburs and Masamune, just like the White Mages. They would have the same healing problem as the thieves, so farming Tiamat2 would be in order.

And here's a donation incentive I should've thought of: Class change vs no class change. It would only slightly alter the route, though time may be a factor depending on the party I have.
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Poxnor: 2012-10-05 01:19:17 pm
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If class change vs. no would considerably change the duration of the run, I'd prefer party as the donation incentive, as opposed to class change vs. no.  You'll get way more troll donations for party.  If you can actually pull off four white mages, you should probably prepare to Wink
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MetaSigma: 2012-10-05 06:50:57 pm
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I love how Leno is using my donation to him for a 4 thieves party, to basically make me out to be the bad guy in this :D! *Thumbs up* I APPROVE!

Also on an unrelated note, There are no blackout dates in March Tongue at all...and really no one likes taking vaca time early it looks like. I will have to ask if I can shave a day off one week and add it to the next week though since if this thing ends Monday evening it will be an all day drive back to Montana :9. Still it's at 90% I'll be there...also I has a donation incentive that I wanted to run by you, but not here Poxnor.

Oh, I was going to say it might be an idea if I do commentary with Leno on FF1 just because of the synergy between us...and the fact that I'll be watching him stream a lot of runs while talking to him leading up to this marathon so I'll be able to use all that info as a basis for guest commentary :3
Sadly, my attempts at streaming PSP anything have been 1-and-done. It's a 1000 model, and even with CFW and RemoteJoyLite, anytime the XMB comes up to save or load, the system hardlocks. WotL runs fine (although slow!) since it still uses its old save/load menu. I suppose I could try to stream the audio...
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I has a donation incentive that I wanted to run by you, but not here Poxnor.

Clothing isn't optional Tongue

Lenophis - that sucks that you can't stream, but it won't be a problem if you keep us apprised on your practice Smiley I'm sure someone will be able to bring a 3000 (I have a Go, but I'm pretty sure FF1 can't be played on the Go).
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rinimt: 2012-10-05 11:59:06 pm
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I has a donation incentive that I wanted to run by you, but not here Poxnor.

Clothing isn't optional Tongue

Lenophis - that sucks that you can't stream, but it won't be a problem if you keep us apprised on your practice Smiley I'm sure someone will be able to bring a 3000 (I have a Go, but I'm pretty sure FF1 can't be played on the Go).


FF1 can be played on the Go but Crisis Core can't, AFAIK.

Anyways, I'll be bringing my 3000 and cables. Just hope you don't mind playing on a pink/purple (I believe it's purple but....) PSP Wink
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Speaking of party donation for FF1, could try this to be a bit more safer. Have 3 characters locked in and the 4th be a donated character.  So if you do Fighter, Black Mage, Red Mage for your 3 characters and let the viewers donate for the 4th, that shouldn't be too hard to do, it seems.
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Speaking of party donation for FF1, could try this to be a bit more safer. Have 3 characters locked in and the 4th be a donated character.  So if you do Fighter, Black Mage, Red Mage for your 3 characters and let the viewers donate for the 4th, that shouldn't be too hard to do, it seems.

How many characters would you have to lock in order to have a consistent run time, and how many could you leave open for donations?  I mean, if it's a 15-minute variance in time, that's something that could totally amount to random luck.  If it's an hour variance, that's a mess for the schedule.
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How many people do you need to run a game quickly? I didnt think FF1 really needed all 4 characters to be set to be super fast. There are talks about what is the best party, a  lot of them have the same variations with 1 or 2 members different.
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IIRC the best party was debated between 2fighters 1 redmage 1whm/blm/rdm

So it depends on the comfort of the player. Honestly 1fighter 1 redmage 1 (insert other mage) should suffice, but i mean the problem is that last character might just end up better off dead during the majority of the run.. to avoid a rough split on exp. But overall the total variance depends on the methods used. It I would guess (no whammies) a 20 minute variance would be expected, maybe a little more.

the 2 fighters work well cause then you the two powerhouse swords used by people who can actually benefit from them. Ultimately I'd say a BBelt might be more optimal for chaos cause he gets the most out of buffs; but all told i'd say a 20 minute variance (no whammies). And by no whammies i mean no ice cave trolling, no horrible trolling elsewhere etc etc.
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How many characters would you have to lock in order to have a consistent run time

Probably just two characters, Fighter and White Mage (Barbarian's Sword and Healga respectively). However, I still haven't tested yet (awaiting to see if FedEx delivers on Saturdays).

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How many people do you need to run a game quickly?

I'd need the same two from above, and if I had access, a Ninja/Red Mage/Black Mage for buffing (mostly just for Chaos since he's a freaking truck).
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I've written the Ride Guide from the west, and I've also updated it from the east with some new information (for any people who have to endure the drive through SK).  The Guide from the south remains the same.

I've also been looking to see if there are any charities with a significant physical presence in Edmonton, as it would be great to get someone from the charity in to talk a bit on-stream about what they do, some success stories, etc. (there's always teleconferencing, but that's just not the same).  Unfortunately, the only charities that I've found so far are charities applicable only to Edmonton, which is a major problem for an international marathon (as an example, The Stollery Children's Hospital has all the benefits of being a smaller charity, helping sick kids, having the cutest mascot, and having a major media presence in the region; but, has the single massive drawback of being located only in one city in a remote, frozen corner of the world).

This is turning out to be quite a challenge to find a smaller charity (who are always more eager to participate) that supports a cause with wide appeal, and ideally (as a bonus) has someone located in Edmonton who would make a great contact for planning, promotion, media, etc.  As always, any input you have is greatly appreciated; and, trust me very much, I'm taking each suggestion for a charity made in this thread very seriously, as I know how important different efforts are to all of the people posting here (so please don't take my continuing to look around as a dismissal of what you've suggested).
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Ive done 2 full runs of Mystic Quest 100% now, the first clocking in at 4:02:27 with some horrible RNG luck. I rerouted it a bit to make more walking but easier battling to save time and got my 2nd attempt at 3:50:32. Cutting 12 mins off the previous run.  I'll be doing several more runs to try and just familiarize myself with the route/fights and hopefully find ways to avoid RNG. it seems like 3:30 is easily possible but hard to do. I would give an estimate for this game at 4 hours, maybe 4:15 to be safe.
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Is there much for donation incentives in a 100% MQ run, since you're already getting everything?  I can't remember -- are there any optional bosses or anything, or is it really straightforward?

If there aren't any out-of-the-way donation incentives, I'll put your estimate down as 4:15.  If you can get consistently down to 3:35-3:40, I'll put the estimate as 4:00; otherwise, I'll leave it at 4:15 to account for how bad MQ can troll (at least, I remember it trolling when I played it years ago).
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Personally, I think Any% Mystic Quest makes for a more entertaining watch (seeing funkdoc beat the game low-leveled and with skipping at least half of the items/spells always impresses me, and some of the late-game boss battles are pretty tense) - maybe a bidding war between Any% and 100% if FFGamer is able to learn both routes?
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If you were to learn both, FFgamer, I'd definitely be down for an any% vs. 100% bidding war.  But, I seem to recall that you had some concern about any% for a marathon (if I'm remembering correctly; this was quite a while back that you would have said anything)?
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For time estimates I'm wanting to say 8 hours on Crisis Core. So far I've had a 7:56 game-time (final save, which is post credits and counts the credits) and a 7:28 (game time final save again). I should be able to bring it down more assuming I can actually complete another full run (my capture card is not wanting to cooperate with this). My last run (where my capture card decided to freeze 4 1/2 hours in... grumble) I was sitting at -8 minutes at that point I just mentioned.

I'm still debating what would be good for donation incentives, mainly a debate of what would actually be an interesting watch. One idea I've come to is possible doing the squats mini-game and perhaps having someone there do them as well. If I remember right, it's three rounds (don't have to do them all of course) with the rounds having more each time (I want to say it's 20, 30, and 50).

Other ideas would possibly be doing the seven wonders quest (though not sure how much of a good watch this would be, the end result would actually be beneficial as it'd give me the Wall materia), the "hard" path of the final dungeon (would have to test this in a speed run setting for sure), or doing 1-2 of the missions that take you to a beach and you fight with an umbrella (though I'm kinda leaning towards no on this one as you see this during the main story and it can get a bit tedious... Though the imagery of it is quite hilarious).
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Is the game timer reflective of real time in Crisis Core?
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Is the game timer reflective of real time in Crisis Core?


As far as I can tell, yes. The 7:28 I mentioned was a 6:51 at final boss kill according to wsplit (and the ending is 37 minutes long).
Just a thought here, but nobody is running FF III, and I just remembered that I have it for DS.  I also just ordered a DS phat because the equipment mod for recording/streaming requires something bigger than a DS lite, and there are a couple DS games that I would like to run at some point.  I know that I'm signed up for XII right now, but even though I currently know little to nothing about III, I'm sure could learn it by mid-December to give an early time estimate (assuming the game is feasible for a marathon to begin with).  My hand is almost healed so I'd be able to practice pretty soon, and as a victim of the economy, I have a lot of free time Tongue  I could still commentate for XII, of course (hell, I could pretty much do that right now, with no prep), and if nothing else, do some running segments to give Nitrodon a break.

So... thoughts?  I'd especially like to hear from Nitrodon on this, because XII is a pretty daunting game.
If DS wasn't an option, it is available for the PSP via PSN. Dunno how more reliable that is over the DS version though. *shrug*
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Poxnor: 2012-10-07 04:55:56 pm
Poxnor: 2012-10-07 04:54:01 pm
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I'm of the opinion that FF3 DS cannot be run, and I'm going to hold on to that opinion until someone proves me wrong by generating an actual run (not conjecture or thoughts about a route, but an actual run).  I'm not sure how different the game is for the PSP; is it changed in anyway, or is it just a port from the DS to the PSP?

Edit: and by "cannot be run," I mean SS/marathon.  For segmented, I'm only of the opinion that I'll die of old age before anyone makes that run, and even then it might not be doable.

Edit 2: I guess I owe an explanation.  FF3 DS is a grind-fest.  It makes any Dragon Quest game look fast paced, and like it has good flow.  I have yet to meet one person who has completed FF3 DS; everyone I've met who has played it has stopped part way through, because the grinding got so bad, so repetitive, and so boring.
Seems to me that both versions should be more or less equal, with a possible edge (or disadvantage) to DS because of the touchscreen.  Something to look into, I suppose, but I do already own it for DS, so...

On an unrelated note, apparently III is a launch title for the Ouya.