Rise of the Tomb Raider

lillbrorsan

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lillbrorsan: 2016-02-01 04:11:08 pm

2016-02-01 04:10:13 pm

Truljin @ Twitch

Quote from MrTau:

So i found this nice battle skip Smiley

2 easy door clips the first you go over the gate (frameratedependant)

I guess you mean higher framerate like everything else? Cheesy

TheArtisticBallistic

2016-02-01 04:12:07 pm

Yep I think it's one of the hardest skips found yet... and funny enough you have to trigger a checkpoint from OoB which means if you mess up after that you have to reset the entire run... which reminds of another game... and there is really no point in resetting when there is an entire run ahead that needs to be learned.

40 seconds over an entire run isnt that much anyways.. I just really wanted to skip this part ever since I saw it at E3...

lillbrorsan

2016-02-01 04:15:13 pm

Truljin @ Twitch

The intro is terribly indeed, hopefully there is a different way to do it in the near future.

TheArtisticBallistic

2016-02-01 05:51:37 pm

For the console players out there: I just did intro OoB on 60Fps with an xbox controller and it works perfectly fine. Triggering the glitch works just as well with a controller now as it does with a keyboard... since double back or any kind spamming doesn't work anymore you have to press back a few times with a rather low frequency... which means you can doo eeet! Just keep in mind IT IS HARD, also PC players think it's impossible and doesn't work at first but im very sure now that intro OoB is legit on xbone.

Zydin

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2016-02-01 09:03:42 pm

Found a 100% consistent Abandoned Mines skip setup, recording now.

Edit: Here ya go

Some things to note

1) Xbox 360 so while it should be the same for everyone it may not be.
2) A + X into the corner to wedge yourself in.
3) Once you're wedged in, you can clip through the wall on the left easy by continuing to A + X towards the upper left
4) I got really lucky the first time and didn't have to do the last step, but once you're at the floor you want to use Lara's landing animation to sneak underneath the floor to get OoBs

Also, I left the video unlisted cause I don't want it patched

MoXxi

2016-02-01 09:05:54 pm

So I finally finished my first playthrough. I'll be looking for skip soon, but I need to learn those who have already been found.

For now I've only tested the intro OOB. The skywalk isn't hard, pretty easy to start actually : just need to press back once at the right time. (if it fails, it's most likely you hit S too soon). It seems a bit harder to control Lara while she's skywalking though. So now I just need to learn my way to the top. The skip looks really cool, just like monastery skip but with snow.

(Hey Nord, nice to see you here. Longtime lurker on you stream. Really great content, love it! Hopefully you won't give up on this game because of Skywalking. Definitely a hard glitch to learn but once you understand how it works, it's fun to use)

TheArtisticBallistic

2016-02-01 09:39:29 pm

Yey Moxxi glad you made it!

How about prison break?

I saw there are already some skips in that area, unfortuneatley I don't know the game well enough so I had no clue where to go or what to do after getting out. I also failed to check wether you get your scramble back with the first method after the cutscene...

brassmaster

2016-02-01 10:05:35 pm

Okay, so I never got my email updates that posts were appearing here until today, ugh. Anyway, I’ll be responding to a lot of comments.

Back scramble and skywalker are confirmed? Ugh… and yay!

The back scramble for the OoB to the pistol actually works on XBO, but it’s STUPIDLY inconsistent. You can AX pump it, but there is an invisible wall preventing it from fully working. As for CptKiwi’s Prophet’s Gate skip, I cant get the back scramble to work there.

Soft locks – I’ve confirmed that skipping the pistol softlocks at the shotgun cutscene. Originally we thought it was earlier, but I found the necessary triggers. The shotgun apparently is needed to load the acropolis correctly. I did experiment with fast traveling backwards, but unfortunately I couldn’t find any place that would save time

Fire arrow skip – while the 100% random fire arrow skip that badatgaems sent me is faster, Eydas’ is VERY easy and consistent on XBO Cheesy

Speaking of Eydas, his Prophets Gate skip works on XBO!! Although I did something similar to MrTau at the beginning and got that consistent for me. And now im further into the forum, it’s what Zydin does lol.

Speaking of this Gate, as far as early testing can tell, you cannot continue without the collapsing cutscene/sequence. There should be a video on the speedrun.com about that.

As for MrTau’s Path of the Deathless fight skip, the back scramble doesn’t work, and I swore I tested the second gate skip before, but even still, you can’t clip it on XBO…

Corela skip works the same as always on XBO on the current patch. The clip by the mural works as well.

Prison escape – you don’t have scramble at that point in the main game

Intro skywalk – I can get it started, but not complete. I’ll definitely continue testing

Okay, so I never got my email updates that posts were appearing here until today, ugh.  Anyway, I’ll be responding to a lot of comments.

Back scramble and skywalker are confirmed? Ugh… and yay!

The back scramble for the OoB to the pistol actually works on XBO, but it’s STUPIDLY inconsistent.  You can AX pump it, but there is an invisible wall preventing it from fully working. As for CptKiwi’s Prophet’s Gate skip, I cant get the back scramble to work there.

Soft locks – I’ve confirmed that skipping the pistol softlocks at the shotgun cutscene. Originally we thought it was earlier, but I found the necessary triggers.  The shotgun apparently is needed to load the acropolis correctly. I did experiment with fast traveling backwards, but unfortunately I couldn’t find any place that would save time

Fire arrow skip – while the 100% random fire arrow skip that badatgaems sent me is faster, Eydas’ is VERY easy and consistent on XBO :D

Speaking of Eydas, his Prophets Gate skip works on XBO!! Although I did something similar to MrTau at the beginning and got that consistent for me. And now im further into the forum, it’s what Zydin does lol.

Speaking of this Gate, as far as early testing can tell, you cannot continue without the collapsing cutscene/sequence.  There should be a video on the speedrun.com about that.

As for MrTau’s Path of the Deathless fight skip, the back scramble doesn’t work, and I swore I tested the second gate skip before, but even still, you can’t clip it on XBO…

Corela skip works the same as always on XBO on the current patch.  The clip by the mural works as well.

Prison escape – you don’t have scramble at that point in the main game

Intro skywalk – I can get it started, but not complete.  I’ll definitely continue testing

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2016-02-01 10:16:31 pm

2016-02-01 10:15:12 pm

@brass what I mean with the scramble is that you get it once outside (as shown with method 2) but with method one you don't get it back in that area... but hopefully after the cutscene the game is back to normal... but again I failed to test and now I don't have time anymore to do so Sad

EDIT: or wait method 2 doesnt show any scamble my bad

lillbrorsan

2016-02-02 02:13:32 am

Truljin @ Twitch

Does this mean that the Corela skip just won't work on PC then (unless you use the mural clip) or did I miss anything :S

MrTau

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2016-02-02 03:28:47 am

@TheArtisticBallistic i must be missing something i cant scramble in the prison break area do i need to do something for that?

i would guess you use backwards walking double aim method?

edit: allrigth got it get into the corner walk backwards double tab aim Smiley

lillbrorsan

2016-02-02 03:46:14 am

Truljin @ Twitch

What corner? Both seem to just push me away no matter what, did manage to get artistics setup to kind of work though.

MrTau

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2016-02-02 03:46:59 am

i will record the whole skip also it makes you unable to scramble in the area afterwards, so there is a way to do this which also skips the machine gun

edit1: i finished the whole sequence with just the bow no soft lock so far

edit2: So here everything done in a row. Some of the clips seem to be easier with lower fps 30-50 so i change my graphics settings, it can all be done without that but less consistent. The sequence Can be finished pistol is getting skipped this might cause problems later on / softlocks.

i reload to be able to roll again

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2016-02-02 07:04:53 am

2016-02-02 07:02:16 am

Btw instead of doing the 3rd clip (the yellowish wall where you changed graphics) you can just go on the roof at the spot where you jumped down... there are some wooden beams... felt really easy to do so I hope it actaully is.

EDIT: the beams might be steel

Zydin

2016-02-02 09:01:59 am

Found a way to clip out of the observatory and drop down into the stairs below. If we can find a way to get around Jonah and avoid his kidnapping cutscene we might be able to finish the game

MrTau

2016-02-02 10:05:38 am

true you can just jump outside there wich is much easier

Eydas

2016-02-02 10:09:58 am

Quote from Zydin:

Found a way to clip out of the observatory and drop down into the stairs below. If we can find a way to get around Jonah and avoid his kidnapping cutscene we might be able to finish the game

Someone with high framerates - does skipping the Flooded Archives puzzle completely avoid the Jonah cutscene trigger?

CptKiwi

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2016-02-02 10:12:50 am

Yeah my problem was that nobody was outside when I left the cave. At the spot where the Jonah cutscene starts nothing happened

The quest marker was still at the "Find a way to exit the cave" aka "Bring down the statue" thing

Eydas

2016-02-02 10:37:04 am

@zydin can you post your skip?

lillbrorsan

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2016-02-02 12:16:34 pm

Truljin @ Twitch

Some things I noticed from doing my only (completed) run on PC today:

1. Both gate skips during Lost City need proper setups to work. (EDIT: Of course it worked off-stream while testing)
2. Corela skip safe strat clip is very inconsistent
3. Observatory clip needs a proper setup. (EDIT: Pretty sure I found one)
4. Restart your game in-between runs, my game ran so poorly toward the end cause of memory leaks.
5. You can skip the rifle but don't.
6. Prison skip works well, remember to jump out through the window instead of dropping down.
7. I found at least one place where there should be a possible skip, have to test. (EDIT: NVM)

If you find a skip, even if not completed, make a video and post is we can help with it.

I can make a KB for this game and gather all the useful skips we have for now.

Zydin

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Zydin: 2016-02-02 02:05:03 pm

2016-02-02 12:37:09 pm

@Eydas will do so tonight. I'm at work right now.
@lillbrorsan I'll upload the mural clip as well. It's hella consistent. If that's what you're referring to

lillbrorsan

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lillbrorsan: 2016-02-02 02:36:27 pm

2016-02-02 02:33:37 pm

Truljin @ Twitch

@zydin no I mean the two before the Lost City but you can upload your setup for it anyway if you feel like it, I think I have a good one for now.

I just noticed you don't even have to go down and activate the Orary, you can instantly clip through and the game will load the next part of the level if you wait 2 seconds.

brassmaster

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brassmaster: 2016-02-02 05:02:39 pm

2016-02-02 04:55:57 pm

I just tested that on XBO (which we did initially, but not since patch 1), and if I clip the gate straight away, the next area still doesnt load at all... I would expect certain OoB loading to be different, but I'm surprised this one is different. another score for PC...

EDIT: WTF!!!! I literally had the thing sit there for like 5 minutes and nothing loaded, I moved to the very edge, and all of a sudden it loaded in... weird

TheArtisticBallistic

2016-02-02 05:18:04 pm

I don't know if this is known... but you can clip the entrance to the castle that you clear with an explosive arrow (leading up to it is an incredibly slow walk followed by jump on the bridge)... there were no enemies in the first area either which is a nice side effect.

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2016-02-02 06:12:56 pm

2016-02-02 05:39:07 pm

I think there are some better strats for the 3rd stealth section:

EDIT: Also what I forgot to mention.. I think the best way to deal with skipping cutscenes it to spam trigger (left mouse) that way you can see when the cutscene is skippable so you don't have to deal with late cutscene skips because you pressed/spammed skip cutscene button too early.