Final Fantasy VIII

2008-03-05 06:08:29 pm

Heyho let´s go!

Only one week of Exams left for me. Then I have until 1st September till my work starts XD I have to use that time then >.>

Maglok

2008-03-06 09:31:05 am

Dum die dum

It's always "Oh I got time coming" and then after the time I usually see I haven't gotten as far as I wanted. Good luck with it.

At the moment I am still doubting if I wanna beat the crap out of Diablos right away or not, it should be possible, but it might take to much time. On the flipside there is the fact I will get no-enc later if I fight diablos later.

Certo

2008-03-06 03:34:12 pm

Heyho let´s go!

Yeah I know that...

I´d say bea him right away. It´s not hard and don´t just think of Enc None. Think of Time-Ref to get triples when you have refined the quistis card (which is also easy to get once you have beaten him because you get the Diablos card).

Maglok

2008-03-07 09:24:04 am

Dum die dum

Of course, I have taken into account the Time-ref. He will learn that before enc-none probably, but after enc-half, I am not sure yet.

Certo

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Certo: 2008-03-07 09:23:38 pm

2008-03-07 01:21:12 pm

Heyho let´s go!

I´d say Enc-half, Time-Ref, Enc-None

Disc 2 (I think you will have learned Enc-Half till then) is not that crazy about random battles at first (just lagunas 3rd dream), so you have plenty time until you really need Enc-None.

Maglok

2008-03-07 02:15:24 pm

Dum die dum

If you go enc-half->enc-none first you'd have learned enc-none in fisherman's horizon against the robot tank (don't have it's name handy).

Certo

2008-03-07 09:23:00 pm

Heyho let´s go!

Ah! Yeah that big tank was named BGHF and then a bunch of numbers I think...

Anyway after that fight you don´t have many areas with random encounters anyway. You have Balamb fighting against Fu-Jin & Rai-Jin -> no encounters, then Trabia -> no encounters, then Edeas House -> no encounters, then Galbadia Garden // end of disc2 -> some encounters.

So you basically have some boss fights after F.H. but no real encounter areas, so you don´t need enc-none till then. Enc-half should do the job for Galbadia Garden and at disc 3 you should get enc-none pretty fast. And the beginning of disc 3 is also not so much about random encounters. So I think you can really get along with enc-half most of the time. So I´d say learn time-ref before enc-none

Carcinogen

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Carcinogen: 2008-03-07 09:28:25 pm

2008-03-07 09:25:15 pm

Point.

Personally, I hate not having Enc-none before the D-District Prison though. So many random encounters there =[

Time Mag-RF doesn't take much time to learn though.

Certo

2008-03-07 11:06:56 pm

Heyho let´s go!

Yep. Prison & Winhill suck at the beginning of Disc 2 - one hell of random battles, but you have to go through it... I think this is one of the most frustrating parts of the game, when speedrunning (right after the tutorial hell on Disc 1)...

Certo

2008-03-08 11:55:45 pm

Heyho let´s go!

Sorry for the doublepost, but this has to be said...

You won´t believe what just happened to me: I made a tryout for my next segment where I get the fish fins - not recording. Got into a battle with the damn fishes and what happens? I get 5 damn Fish Fins! Why am I only that lucky in a tryout when I´m not recording - can´t believe it...

A lot of posts before someone said, that you can get this drop when the camera views the party from behind. Well, in my battle the camera was behind the fishes. So it seems that theese battles have an equal chance of this drop.

Maglok

2008-03-09 04:15:42 pm

Dum die dum

I think the camera view is utter guess work. Why would they connect camera view to drops?

Sucks about the fish fins man.

I just had a streak of bad luck as well. First I ran the graduation without recording, went ok. Then I did it again and 4 min before the end I crashed my comp. Finally I reboot my comp and do it all again and realise afterwards that I had forgotten to turn FRAPS on, doh!

*Goes again*

Maglok

2008-03-09 04:34:57 pm

Dum die dum

Alright finally got it recorded, just a boring segment.

So far:
Segment 01: 0:09 (After fire cavern)
Segment 02: 0:16 (After fish farming)
Segment 03: 0:29 (On Dollet shore)
Segment 04: 0:46 (After Elvoret)
Segment 05: 0:51 (After Dollet)
Segment 06: 1:03 (After graduation)

Next up: Training center

Maxml

2008-03-09 08:41:05 pm

They are impressive times you have here !
This is definetely a run I want to see.

Certo

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Certo: 2008-03-09 11:00:44 pm

2008-03-09 10:59:49 pm

Heyho let´s go!

Nice times indeed!

I decided to redo my second segment - it can be improved by 20 seconds, which would give a save with a lower timer. But it´s so luck-based there, that I decided to take a break for now. I´ll be replaying it in a week.

Damn the times on computer version & NTSC are so damn great compared to my PAL.

I got:

00.12 Before Fire Cavern
00.23 After Fire Cavern (will be improved to 00.22)

As I said - can´t be done faster in PAL.

I also see that Fish Farming is really time consuming in your run - this is another segment, that is completely luck-based.

ShadowLaguna

2008-03-10 07:17:04 am

THE GAME!!

Nice times, both of you. And due to me owning the PAL version of FFVIII, I have to say the PAL time's pretty good.

arthurgolden

2008-03-10 01:52:02 pm

Wow. Those are really impressive times.

Maglok

2008-03-10 02:00:10 pm

Dum die dum

Keep in mind once again, PC version runs a bunch faster it seems. I am unsure where the actual speed gaining is. I take it you also turn battlespeed to max?

Oh and I have two notes on my latest segment. First I made a mistake, at the party telling selphie '...' is faster then telling her you'll help out on her carnival, few seconds there. Secondly, I really wonder if there really isn't anything you can do but wait for the results at the 1st floor. It seems like a set time though. Tricky.

i6e0m

2008-03-10 03:05:46 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

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Secondly, I really wonder if there really isn't anything you can do but wait for the results at the 1st floor. It seems like a set time though. Tricky.

yep, it takes 1 min. that's a good place to do stuff in the menus, since the timer goes in the menu too.

Maglok

2008-03-10 03:15:34 pm

Dum die dum

You also only have Squall (S, in my case) in your party. Nothing much to do there.

i6e0m

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i6e0m: 2008-03-10 04:07:49 pm

2008-03-10 04:07:09 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

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You also only have Squall (S, in my case) in your party.

i had squall, zell, quistis and selphie (in the menu) so you should have them too. junction some GF's (girlfriends). also:

set queza to learn cardmod, set shiva to learn str-j, set siren to learn l mag-rf

but maybe you did them already before.

Carcinogen

2008-03-10 04:35:23 pm

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I really wonder if there really isn't anything you can do but wait for the results at the 1st floor. It seems like a set time though. Tricky.

I'm pretty sure it is.

Maglok

2008-03-10 04:45:03 pm

Dum die dum

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i had squall, zell, quistis and selphie (in the menu) so you should have them too. junction some GF's (girlfriends). also:

set queza to learn cardmod, set shiva to learn str-j, set siren to learn l mag-rf

but maybe you did them already before.

Yeah I did that all before, didn't wanna lose AP from bosses before. Smiley

Am atm wondering what to use on Granaldo, think a quick Quetzalcoatl should take care of things.

i6e0m

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i6e0m: 2008-03-10 05:26:51 pm

2008-03-10 05:26:10 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

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Am atm wondering what to use on Granaldo,

shiva with the boost ability. at least thats what darkwabi used.

Carcinogen

2008-03-10 06:17:28 pm

Shiva, followed by a quick Renzokuken?

darkwasabi

2008-03-11 02:35:06 am

King of hearts

I explained the little tricky Raldo defense boost in an earlier post. I take care of Granaldo first and then take out the little guys with a boosted Shiva preceded by an attack(mine or theirs) to get them out of that defense boost. I save right after the conversation Quistis and Squall have so I can get right to the battle because it takes many tries to get it with good time.

I also take advantage of the one minute you have to wait for results and do a little junctioning and menu item movements.