Tomb Raider : A survivor is born

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aimlezz: 2015-05-24 08:02:18 am

2015-05-24 08:01:55 am

Quote from SamuraiBlue:

MoXxi, How do you get inside the wall at this precise place ?? It would be so convenient.
I've tried so many times and i've just managed to get the glitch with Vampstreak method, but once I've passed the pipes I get the darky pink mist. Sitting at fire place doesn't completely solve the problem.
Maybe the area would load correctly if I get out of the pipes by the normal exit ?

@Aimlezz, nice work Smiley

I'll submit a run as soon as I get a decent one.

You run on x360 right? Then you won't get MoXxi's skip to work ;-) It doesnt work with 60 fps, so it shouldn't work with 30 FPS either Smiley

Vamps method however is not depending on Framerate Smiley

SamuraiBlue

2015-05-24 08:53:28 am

lol ok thanks, i'm kind of lost sometimes with all those pc, console, 30, 60fps stories... So which fps does he play ?

aimlezz

2015-05-24 08:57:59 am

uhm, i dont know, but i would guess somewhere in the region of 180 fps + ;-)

Zydin

2015-05-24 10:32:15 am

@Aimlezz remember that for bow only, etc. You need to arrange them by least uses of any other weapons, not time. For example, if i skip 1 more grenade door than you but have a slower time, my run would be the better run...idk if you can organize the page that way

TheArtisticBallistic

2015-05-24 10:50:35 am

Well Zydin. As for the bow only run there really should be one exception imo. And that is right after you get the pistol there are the 2 guys you kill in slowmo. Now by your rules you make the entire run depending on wether the first guy you kill drops pistol ammo or arrows... which would totally ruin the category for me since you don't wanna go through intro oob etc... just so the first guy gives you pistol ammo... i think it should be ok to kill both guys with the pistol. Other than that sure.

And for the Pc any% glitched categories.. I dont really think having that many makes sense.. there is just high fps = normal any% and low fps (60+) = no backward scramling/skywalking.

aimlezz

2015-05-24 10:59:27 am

Quote from Zydin:

@Aimlezz remember that for bow only, etc. You need to arrange them by least uses of any other weapons, not time. For example, if i skip 1 more grenade door than you but have a slower time, my run would be the better run...idk if you can organize the page that way

uhm i'm not sure if that is possible ;-) will have to look into it.

Quote from TheArtisticBallistic:

Well Zydin. As for the bow only run there really should be one exception imo. And that is right after you get the pistol there are the 2 guys you kill in slowmo. Now by your rules you make the entire run depending on wether the first guy you kill drops pistol ammo or arrows... which would totally ruin the category for me since you don't wanna go through intro oob etc... just so the first guy gives you pistol ammo... i think it should be ok to kill both guys with the pistol. Other than that sure.

And for the Pc any% glitched categories.. I dont really think having that many makes sense.. there is just high fps = normal any% and low fps (60+) = no backward scramling/skywalking.

Well, I can just put these criteria into the rules, no problem ;-)
First of all, you probably mean <=60 fps and not 60 fps+. Secondly, I really dont think its in any way fair to combine 30-60 fps versions.
I mean, Some back scrambling is possible on 60 Fps, some are not. Most skywalks are possible on 60 Fps, and some even on 30 FPS. I wouldnt want to cut these
parts out of my route, just so we can scratch one category. I mean, you cant just mash old and next gen and limited PC into one category. I think a comparison is only
fair, if all players in this category CAN use the same route (they dont have to).
E.g. The gauntlet skip is absolutely not possible on NG, so why should such a run be compared with e.g. a x360 run? in this case x360 can do all the skips and even gets to use
the now fixed skips. And the difference in time can range anywhere from 7-12 minutes, depending on the performance in the gauntlet and the performance of the final skip jump.
I' rather suggest giving Old gen / New Gen their own category, without the possibility for PC to enter a run there. But then again, we're stuck with 3 categories.

[quote="Zydin"]@Aimlezz remember that for bow only, etc. You need to arrange them by least uses of any other weapons, not time. For example, if i skip 1 more grenade door than you but have a slower time, my run would be the better run...idk if you can organize the page that way[/quote]
uhm i'm not sure if that is possible ;-) will have to look into it.

[quote="TheArtisticBallistic"]Well Zydin. As for the bow only run there really should be one exception imo. And that is right after you get the pistol there are the 2 guys you kill in slowmo. Now by your rules you make the entire run depending on wether the first guy you kill drops pistol ammo or arrows... which would totally ruin the category for me since you don't wanna go through intro oob etc... just so the first guy gives you pistol ammo... i think it should be ok to kill both guys with the pistol. Other than that sure.

And for the Pc any% glitched categories.. I dont really think having that many makes sense.. there is just high fps = normal any% and low fps (60+) = no backward scramling/skywalking.[/quote]
Well, I can just put these criteria into the rules, no problem ;-) 
First of all, you probably mean <=60 fps and not 60 fps+. Secondly, I really dont think its in any way fair to combine 30-60 fps versions. 
I mean, Some back scrambling is possible on 60 Fps, some are not. Most skywalks are possible on 60 Fps, and some even on 30 FPS. I wouldnt want to cut these
parts out of my route, just so we can scratch one category. I mean, you cant just mash old and next gen and limited PC into one category. I think a comparison is only
fair, if all players in this category CAN use the same route (they dont have to). 
E.g. The gauntlet skip is absolutely not possible on NG, so why should such a run be compared with e.g. a x360 run? in this case x360 can do all the skips and even gets to use
the now fixed skips. And the difference in time can range anywhere from 7-12 minutes, depending on the performance in the gauntlet and the performance of the final skip jump. 
I' rather suggest giving Old gen / New Gen their own category, without the possibility for PC to enter a run there. But then again, we're stuck with 3 categories.

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2015-05-24 12:13:29 pm

2015-05-24 11:13:11 am

@aimlezz "I' rather suggest giving Old gen / New Gen their own category, without the possibility for PC to enter a run there. But then again, we're stuck with 3 categories."

Yes that's the whole point, and that's why we don't need low = <60 Fps for Pc as well as the "you can do certain skywalk/backward scrambles and others you can't". We just need high fps = any% and low fps = 60+ --> Where we just don't go for skywalks/backward scrambles. What I said only applies for the PC runs... what you do on console is up to you.
EDIT: Just to clarify what I mean
-Any% Low FPS (for old-Gen runners and 30 FPS restricted PC runners) --> Doing this on PC can only be achieved with secondary software--> old gen any% (no pc/ps4)
-Any% Medium FPS (for next-Gen runners and 60 FPS restricted PC Runners) --> So a Pc runner won't go for the final skip just so it is the same category as ps4? Comparing the two unfortuneatley is just not possible/fair even when going for the same skips. Nor do I believe a Pc runner will desire going for this category. We can always make up rules for SRL races of course! ---> Ps4 any% (no pc/xbox360)
-No Skywalk% (No skips / glitches involving Skywalks) --> this is what some people do on PC still, but also without backward scrambling--> so that is what we need for Pc low fps% (no skywalking / no backward scramble). --> Pc only

Again we can always make up rules to have races with people on different platform. But for a score board I'd seperate the platforms as much as you can.

@aimlezz "I' rather suggest giving Old gen / New Gen their own category, without the possibility for PC to enter a run there. But then again, we're stuck with 3 categories."

Yes that's the whole point, and that's why we don't need low = <60 Fps for Pc as well as the "you can do certain skywalk/backward scrambles and others you can't". We just need high fps = any% and low fps = 60+ --> Where we just don't go for skywalks/backward scrambles. What I said only applies for the PC runs... what you do on console is up to you.
EDIT: Just to clarify what I mean
-Any% Low FPS (for old-Gen runners and 30 FPS restricted PC runners) --> Doing this on PC can only be achieved with secondary software--> old gen any% (no pc/ps4)
-Any% Medium FPS (for next-Gen runners and 60 FPS restricted PC Runners) --> So a Pc runner won't go for the final skip just so it is the same category as ps4? Comparing the two unfortuneatley is just not possible/fair even when going for the same skips. Nor do I believe a Pc runner will desire going for this category. We can always make up rules for SRL races of course! ---> Ps4 any% (no pc/xbox360)
-No Skywalk% (No skips / glitches involving Skywalks) --> this is what some people do on PC still, but also without backward scrambling--> so that is what we need for Pc low fps% (no skywalking / no backward scramble). --> Pc only

Again we can always make up rules to have races with people on different platform. But for a score board I'd seperate the platforms as much as you can.

aimlezz

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aimlezz: 2015-05-24 11:53:18 am

2015-05-24 11:51:24 am

i'm having trouble understanding what exactly you mean, could you make a list with the any% categories you'd like to have, preferably with their rules?

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2015-05-24 12:50:55 pm

TheArtisticBallistic: 2015-05-24 12:28:49 pm

TheArtisticBallistic: 2015-05-24 12:28:26 pm

2015-05-24 12:27:46 pm

-Any% (meant to be a general Scoreboard. Special Emphasis on PC since you have the fastest times anyway Cheesy But everyone else should also enter their run here. So I made an xbox360 any% run. I'll enter it here and my time looks terrible or I enter it for the any% Low FPS and my time will be compared to other xbox360 runners... hmm... or will I submit my time here and it appears on both pages?
-Any% Hard (same as above, only rule: Hard)
~~-Any% Low FPS (for old-Gen runners and 30 FPS restricted PC runners)~~ ---> old gen any% this is where xbox360 runners enter their any% runs.
~~-Any% Medium FPS (for next-Gen runners and 60 FPS restricted PC Runners)~~ ---> ps4 any% this is where ps4 runners enter their any% runs.
-Any% Glitchless
-No Skywalk% (No skips / glitches involving Skywalks) --> I don't know what to do with this.. if it's a console thing then you should leave it of course. I highly highly doubt anyone on PC will ever touch this since there are other options that make much more sense)
-No Skywalk/backward scramling%--> This is = low fps Pc route
-100%
-Pistol Only
-Bow Only
-Melee Only (you can use weapons until you exit the Assault rifle bunker)

Just to sum up what I mean: I personally like the idea to see all any% runs on one page like you suggested (but I know someone who doesn't _brass *cough cough*). That low, mid, high fps% is just another way of saying old gen, NG, Pc any% so we enter the platform anyways when submitting a run. And I'd like one more category for PC which is what I refer to as Pc low fps% = no skywalking no backward scrambling.

-Any% (meant to be a general Scoreboard. Special Emphasis on PC since you have the fastest times anyway Cheesy But everyone else should also enter their run here. [b]So I made an xbox360 any% run. I'll enter it here and my time looks terrible or I enter it for the any% Low FPS and my time will be compared to other xbox360 runners... hmm... or will I submit my time here and it appears on both pages?[/b]
-Any% Hard (same as above, only rule: Hard)
[s]-Any% Low FPS (for old-Gen runners and 30 FPS restricted PC runners)[/s] ---> [b]old gen any% this is where xbox360 runners enter their any% runs.[/b]
[s]-Any% Medium FPS (for next-Gen runners and 60 FPS restricted PC Runners)[/s] ---> [b]ps4 any% this is where ps4 runners enter their any% runs.[/b]
-Any% Glitchless
-No Skywalk% (No skips / glitches involving Skywalks) -->[b] I don't know what to do with this.. if it's a console thing then you should leave it of course. I highly highly doubt anyone on PC will ever touch this since there are other options that make much more sense)[/b]
-[b]No Skywalk/backward scramling%[/b]--> [b]This is = low fps Pc route[/b]
-100%
-Pistol Only
-Bow Only
-Melee Only (you can use weapons until you exit the Assault rifle bunker)

Just to sum up what I mean: I personally like the idea to see all any% runs on one page like you suggested (but I know someone who doesn't [sub]brass[/sub] *cough cough*). That low, mid, high fps% is just another way of saying old gen, NG, Pc any% so we enter the platform anyways when submitting a run. And I'd like one more category for PC which is what I refer to as Pc low fps% = no skywalking no backward scrambling.

aimlezz

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aimlezz: 2015-05-24 01:10:45 pm

aimlezz: 2015-05-24 01:09:46 pm

2015-05-24 01:09:06 pm

Quote from TheArtisticBallistic:

-Any% (meant to be a general Scoreboard. Special Emphasis on PC since you have the fastest times anyway Cheesy But everyone else should also enter their run here. So I made an xbox360 any% run. I'll enter it here and my time looks terrible or I enter it for the any% Low FPS and my time will be compared to other xbox360 runners... hmm... or will I submit my time here and it appears on both pages?
-Any% Hard (same as above, only rule: Hard)
~~-Any% Low FPS (for old-Gen runners and 30 FPS restricted PC runners)~~ ---> old gen any% this is where xbox360 runners enter their any% runs.
~~-Any% Medium FPS (for next-Gen runners and 60 FPS restricted PC Runners)~~ ---> ps4 any% this is where ps4 runners enter their any% runs.
-Any% Glitchless
-No Skywalk% (No skips / glitches involving Skywalks) --> I don't know what to do with this.. if it's a console thing then you should leave it of course. I highly highly doubt anyone on PC will ever touch this since there are other options that make much more sense)
-No Skywalk/backward scramling%--> This is = low fps Pc route
-100%
-Pistol Only
-Bow Only
-Melee Only (you can use weapons until you exit the Assault rifle bunker)

Just to sum up what I mean: I personally like the idea to see all any% runs on one page like you suggested (but I know someone who doesn't _brass *cough cough*). That low, mid, high fps% is just another way of saying old gen, NG, Pc any% so we enter the platform anyways when submitting a run. And I'd like one more category for PC which is what I refer to as Pc low fps% = no skywalking no backward scrambling.

okay, sounds good to me. To some of your points:

Any% - Well, i was kinda thinking one would enter his run in both Smiley

I'd really like to have a general scoreboard in which all platforms are present, just to have a general overview of how many entries there are for this game, maybe get an impression of how many people run this etc... So, it does not appear on both pages, but i'd suggest everyone also enters his run in the correct category. Kind of like you wrote in the "sum-up" section
Ps4 Any% -> I would change this to next gen, simply because Zydin does Lara Skywalker and this shows it should be possible to do on Xbox One. Plus Xbox One to x360 is again not really fair (e.g. grim skip #1 and Gauntlet skip)
No Skywalk% was a suggestion by Zydin, but i'd suggest we change it to the No Skywalk / backward scrambling category. With the change that we dont limit this to PC. I mean, skywalks can be really really tricky on Console, so not every runner can possibly do them. This is why this category across all Platforms would make sense to me.

Maybe you can come back to me, on what your thoughts are regarding the No Skywalk / back scrambling category

[quote="TheArtisticBallistic"]-Any% (meant to be a general Scoreboard. Special Emphasis on PC since you have the fastest times anyway Cheesy But everyone else should also enter their run here. [b]So I made an xbox360 any% run. I'll enter it here and my time looks terrible or I enter it for the any% Low FPS and my time will be compared to other xbox360 runners... hmm... or will I submit my time here and it appears on both pages?[/b]
-Any% Hard (same as above, only rule: Hard)
[s]-Any% Low FPS (for old-Gen runners and 30 FPS restricted PC runners)[/s] ---> [b]old gen any% this is where xbox360 runners enter their any% runs.[/b]
[s]-Any% Medium FPS (for next-Gen runners and 60 FPS restricted PC Runners)[/s] ---> [b]ps4 any% this is where ps4 runners enter their any% runs.[/b]
-Any% Glitchless
-No Skywalk% (No skips / glitches involving Skywalks) -->[b] I don't know what to do with this.. if it's a console thing then you should leave it of course. I highly highly doubt anyone on PC will ever touch this since there are other options that make much more sense)[/b]
-[b]No Skywalk/backward scramling%[/b]--> [b]This is = low fps Pc route[/b]
-100%
-Pistol Only
-Bow Only
-Melee Only (you can use weapons until you exit the Assault rifle bunker)

Just to sum up what I mean: I personally like the idea to see all any% runs on one page like you suggested (but I know someone who doesn't [sub]brass[/sub] *cough cough*). That low, mid, high fps% is just another way of saying old gen, NG, Pc any% so we enter the platform anyways when submitting a run. And I'd like one more category for PC which is what I refer to as Pc low fps% = no skywalking no backward scrambling.[/quote]

okay, sounds good to me. To some of your points:

Any% - Well, i was kinda thinking one would enter his run in both :) I'd really like to have a general scoreboard in which all platforms are present, just to have a general overview of how many entries there are for this game, maybe get an impression of how many people run this etc... So, it does not appear on both pages, but i'd suggest everyone also enters his run in the correct category. Kind of like you wrote in the "sum-up" section
Ps4 Any% -> I would change this to next gen, simply because Zydin does Lara Skywalker and this shows it should be possible to do on Xbox One. Plus Xbox One to x360 is again not really fair (e.g. grim skip #1 and Gauntlet skip)
No Skywalk% was a suggestion by Zydin, but i'd suggest we change it to the No Skywalk / backward scrambling category. With the change that we dont limit this to PC. I mean, skywalks can be really really tricky on Console, so not every runner can possibly do them. This is why this category across all Platforms would make sense to me.

Maybe you can come back to me, on what your thoughts are regarding the No Skywalk / back scrambling category

Zydin

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Zydin: 2015-05-24 01:21:44 pm

2015-05-24 01:17:31 pm

What i mean specifically, Artistic, is that certain grenade and or shotgun walls are skippable based on route (i.e. i may fail monestary skip 3 times and therefore have a slower run than someone who did not attempt it, but ive skipped a usage of shotgun and should be higher on the leaderboard because of it). unless you want to specify that monestary skip has to be done, in which case 360 has an extra grenade wall that's skippable due to pause buffers and that should be required (not sure if the insane fps will let you do the same trick)

aimlezz

2015-05-24 01:19:41 pm

Also one thing i just thought of: In the no backscramble category: Is the new Door Clipping method legit?

TheArtisticBallistic

2015-05-24 01:31:31 pm

@Zydin Well I guess it will come down to personal opinions a lot... since we have to use the shotgun for the river sections anyways and we have to use the pistol when hanging upside down etc... a perfect [enter weapon of choice here] run can't be done. So what it comes down to is: Do you distinguish between using a weapon for combat/ non-combat purposes or not. (i do for the sake of how fun a category will be to run but maybe that's just me)

@aimlezz That's a really good question that I can't answer.

aimlezz

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aimlezz: 2015-05-24 01:39:28 pm

2015-05-24 01:37:39 pm

Quote from TheArtisticBallistic:

@Zydin Well I guess it will come down to personal opinions a lot... since we have to use the shotgun for the river sections anyways and we have to use the pistol when hanging upside down etc... a perfect [enter weapon of choice here] run can't be done. So what it comes down to is: Do you distinguish between using a weapon for combat/ non-combat purposes or not. (i do for the sake of how fun a category will be to run but maybe that's just me)

@aimlezz That's a really good question that I can't answer.

Regarding the "@Zydin" part: I'd suggest that, if the game forces you to use a specific weapon / throws you into a situation where its gameplay-design that you use a specific weapon its legit. This would apply to:
- Killing both guards with pistol in slomo
- Killing 3 guards with pisol when upside down
- shooting the barriers with shotguns
- using bow inside geo caverns.
- Using Grenades to blow up barriers
- Using Assault Rifle in the ambush room inside the first bunker... Btw we really need a unified name for that part Cheesy

Also, speaking of geo caverns, anyone remembers any OoB being posted for that part? I can only find friendship skip Sad

Regarding the "@Aimlezz" part: I'd say everyone interested in this category can make his point and then we decide. Worst case i'll make a straw poll

edit: Also have a look at speedrun.com and tell me if the categories fit now. Rules can be edited later on

[quote="TheArtisticBallistic"]@Zydin Well I guess it will come down to personal opinions a lot... since we have to use the shotgun for the river sections anyways and we have to use the pistol when hanging upside down etc... a perfect [enter weapon of choice here] run can't be done. So what it comes down to is: Do you distinguish between using a weapon for combat/ non-combat purposes or not. (i do for the sake of how fun a category will be to run but maybe that's just me)

@aimlezz That's a really good question that I can't answer.[/quote]

Regarding the "@Zydin" part: I'd suggest that, if the game forces you to use a specific weapon / throws you into a situation where its gameplay-design that you use a specific weapon its legit. This would apply to: 
- Killing both guards with pistol in slomo
- Killing 3 guards with pisol when upside down
- shooting the barriers with shotguns
- using bow inside geo caverns. 
- Using Grenades to blow up barriers
- Using Assault Rifle in the ambush room inside the first bunker... Btw we really need a unified name for that part :D

Also, speaking of geo caverns, anyone remembers any OoB being posted for that part? I can only find friendship skip :(

Regarding the "@Aimlezz" part: I'd say everyone interested in this category can make his point and then we decide. Worst case i'll make a straw poll

edit: Also have a look at speedrun.com and tell me if the categories fit now. Rules can be edited later on

TheArtisticBallistic

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TheArtisticBallistic: 2015-05-24 02:41:37 pm

2015-05-24 02:37:27 pm

Yea I agree with the "the game forces you to use a specific weapon" part except for the assault rifle ambush (at least on pc you can change weapons so no problem to use pistol/bow there)

@aimlezz the categories look good! I just realized I did my bow only runs on hard difficulty which isn't there (sorry that I forgot about that). We might wanna come up with some better category names that sound a bit more appealing Wink

Now the idea is to submit a run twice right? Or at least you always have the opportunity to also add your run to the all platfrom any%?

aimlezz

2015-05-24 02:39:02 pm

Quote from TheArtisticBallistic:

Yea I agree with the "the game forces you to use a specific weapon" part except for the assault rifle ambush (at least on pc you can change weapons so no problem to use pistol/bow there)

my bad. never actually tested that. I was just playing under the impression that you have to use AR there Smiley

Zydin

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Zydin: 2015-05-24 03:12:33 pm

2015-05-24 03:11:20 pm

Quote from aimlezz:

Regarding the "@Zydin" part: I'd suggest that, if the game forces you to use a specific weapon / throws you into a situation where its gameplay-design that you use a specific weapon its legit. This would apply to:
- Killing both guards with pistol in slomo (can be skipped)
- Killing 3 guards with pisol when upside down
- shooting the barriers with shotguns
- using bow inside geo caverns.
- Using Grenades to blow up barriers (Some can be backwards clipped)
- Using Assault Rifle in the ambush room inside the first bunker... Btw we really need a unified name for that part Cheesy

See what I'm saying? I'm asking if we force skipping the ones that are skippable or leave it be since it's not combat. Because i think we should have to skip all possible instances of using different weapons but the intended one.

TheArtisticBallistic

2015-05-24 03:58:18 pm

I know what you mean Zydin. But again: You can have bow only for combat or bow only for universal usage. To answer your question: at least aimlezz and I like the bow only for combat more. And afaik bow/pistol only runs have been done quite a bit that way. You are the only one who seems to like skipping all possible instances (at least for this game). Which means we either seperate the two or vote for one..?

Zydin

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Zydin: 2015-05-24 05:45:27 pm

2015-05-24 05:22:57 pm

Well, my thought process is this: your bow only run on hard was what? 4-5 minutes off any%? That's basically any%. We skip almost all combat anyway. To only use a certain weapon for 2-3 instances of combat is practically pointless isn't it?

TheArtisticBallistic

2015-05-24 06:10:42 pm

Well it is bow only any% after all. There is 1, yes just 1 wall that you shoot with the shotgun which could be clipped. I guess this would make it 4.5-5.5 minutes off any% and actually running bow only hard would be like 2 minutes off normal any%. At least to me it feels quite different because you have to work with salvage and arrow managment quite a bit. And yes we do skip a lot of battles but with bow only hard you can mess up every enemy encounter which is why the experience is different anyways. Now looking over the whole run, this one additional clip will just be annoying that's it, it won't change a lot nor will it be a challenge. All it will do is taking out the flow of one section and make you feel stupid because you could have just shot it with the shotgun which you gonna use anyways 1 minute later in the river section.
If not using the shotgun had more impact i could understand it, because it creates a different challenge with different skips/tricks.. but I don't see any of this here, at least not for PC. Plus if it does and is just annoying.. well then nobody is going to run it anyways.

aimlezz

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2015-05-25 04:59:44 am

Okay, so I was playing around in the geothermal caverns because except for friendship skip, its pretty much all just playing normal.
Then I came across this OoB:

Problem is: This area is huge!!! Only by testing 1 hour, i could enter several rooms and trigger several checkpoints. Some resulted in getting thrown back, some actually skipped a checkpoint or two. But, the setup is kinda tricky, so in order to make it count, i'd like to skip a big portion of what lies ahead.
This is why, i'd like to ask you guys to take a look or two into this area, maybe someone has more luck than me. Especially console runners, but if one of you Pc runners finds himself there, i wouldnt be mad either Tongue

The farthest i could come was into the friendship skip room, but the floor wasnt loaded, so i had to revert to the checkpoint where the floor breaks under you and you have to run through the toxic gas cloud.
At the end you see a big rock in front of me (the only object loaded at this time other than the one i'm standing on) (i look directly at it @2:23 ish). Shortly after i made the video, i found out, that you can jump on it with a scramble jump. Edit: I changed the video and uploaded one including the jump ;-) This really opens up the area, and you can explore quite some bit, especially since there are several loading triggers on each layer.
If you need any help getting there, just say the word, and i will try to explain as good as i can Smiley

Oh and btw, i really love this area because Laras hair changes like every 5 minutes Cheesy

Edit: I guess my ultimate goal would be to climb so high, that you actually exit the caverns and then somehow get to the "withman gives you your weapons back but then betrays you [again]" part
Edit 2: The old video can stil be found here

Okay, so I was playing around in the geothermal caverns because except for friendship skip, its pretty much all just playing normal. 
Then I came across this OoB: 
http://youtu.be/o6_Ed6buMBw
Problem is: This area is huge!!! Only by testing 1 hour, i could enter several rooms and trigger several checkpoints. Some resulted in getting thrown back, some actually skipped a checkpoint or two. But, the setup is kinda tricky, so in order to make it count, i'd like to skip a big portion of what lies ahead. 
This is why, i'd like to ask you guys to take a look or two into this area, maybe someone has more luck than me. Especially console runners, but if one of you Pc runners finds himself there, i wouldnt be mad either :P The farthest i could come was into the friendship skip room, but the floor wasnt loaded, so i had to revert to the checkpoint where the floor breaks under you and you have to run through the toxic gas cloud. 
[s]At the end you see a big rock in front of me (the only object loaded at this time other than the one i'm standing on) (i look directly at it @2:23 ish). Shortly after i made the video, i found out, that you can jump on it with a scramble jump.[/s] [b]Edit: I changed the video and uploaded one including the jump ;-)[/b] This really opens up the area, and you can explore quite some bit, especially since there are several loading triggers on each layer. 
If you need any help getting there, just say the word, and i will try to explain as good as i can :)
Oh and btw, i really love this area because Laras hair changes like every 5 minutes :D

Edit: I guess my ultimate goal would be to climb so high, that you actually exit the caverns and then somehow get to the "withman gives you your weapons back but then betrays you [again]" part
Edit 2: The old video can stil be found [url=https://youtu.be/p-WAjwnVApc]here[/url]

TheArtisticBallistic

2015-05-25 02:01:33 pm

@aimlezz nice looking oob! Smiley

hope you can get something useful out of it

@Zydin so I guess we make it bow only and bow onlyer then? same for pistol etc.. only = combat / onlyer = any kind of weapon usage including shooting barriers ?

Zydin

2015-05-25 03:40:47 pm

How about bow only = combat and bow restricted = skip all possible uses of other weapons

Zydin

2015-05-25 04:18:37 pm

@Aimlezz i abandoned that oob a long time ago because the necessity to climb straight up in that area makes that oob fairly useless. Good luck finding something i didn't though

aimlezz

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aimlezz: 2015-05-26 01:33:15 am

aimlezz: 2015-05-25 04:59:09 pm

2015-05-25 04:33:17 pm

i found this tower i'm trying to get to now, any idea what that could be? There are quite some holes around so it might actually take a while till i get there, so if you have any info that'd be great