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gotcha kingpin just brainstormin 
That's great news about what JDRF's doing. O_O I was extremely happy with how much you raised last time, and it looks like you'll be on track to do even better next time! Proud of you! 
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Quote from puwexil:
Getting Yuffie and Vincent were incentives this year (though they didn't get met), as was fighting Ultima and Ruby Weapon. We didn't offer the Yuffie date because it would have added too much time the run with all of the extra affection manipulation needed (especially having to do the Wutai sidequest before getting the Keystone - beating Rapps that early would probably have to involve farming T/S Bombs or other extra items), not to mention that we would have had to cut off donations for the date right at the start of the run instead of being able to keep it going most of the way through Disc 1.
Personally I think FF7 (and probably 8-10 as well), given the length should take a year off and make room for different games that haven't been in marathons yet, unless there's some massive changes to the speedrun route (that would be noticeably different to the viewer, not just other speedrunners of the game).
Personally I think FF7 (and probably 8-10 as well), given the length should take a year off and make room for different games that haven't been in marathons yet, unless there's some massive changes to the speedrun route (that would be noticeably different to the viewer, not just other speedrunners of the game).
Actually this is my only suggestion I had to improve a run in the marathon - You guys did the same thing as AGDQ for Yuffie/Vincent - donors had to reach a certain amount of donations for names in order to acquire those characters. But the way it was posted on the tracker made it very confusing and I think that prevented either from being met.
Instead, make it two donation challenges: X dollars to get each character, then when X is met, X dollars for the name.
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Quote from garik16:
Instead, make it two donation challenges: X dollars to get each character, then when X is met, X dollars for the name.
Then you have the problem of people donating for the names before the "get the character" challenge is met, then having to contact mods to change their donation. Neither system is perfect.
I think what we really needed to do was just do a better job explaining the get/name-style incentives verbally while the game was on-going. For example, all the get/name-style incentives in FF8 were met -- but, I really tried to explain them every once in a while during my commentary (it doesn't hurt that there's so much downtime on discs 2 and 3 of FF8 during which I can do that explaining, lol).
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Quote from Poxnor:
I think what we really needed to do was just do a better job explaining the get/name-style incentives verbally while the game was on-going.
This this this this oh, and this. If it's easy enough for the tracking people to understand, the commentary can explain it, so the viewers will understand. I'ld hate to suggest get/name-style … things next to challenges and choices, because of the need to program it into the tracker. The programmers have enough to do as it is ^^
I admit being guilty of not understanding the get/name thing until it was verbally explained to me by another person who had understood it, but then it was a piece of cake
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Quote from puwexil:
Personally I think FF7 (and probably 8-10 as well), given the length should take a year off and make room for different games that haven't been in marathons yet, unless there's some massive changes to the speedrun route (that would be noticeably different to the viewer, not just other speedrunners of the game).
I think for it to be noticeable to a casual viewer (not just other speedrunners of the game), it would have to be something as significant as a different category (e.g., slots/no-slots in FF6 and FF7, some sort of 100% vs. any%). For example, the modern route for FF8 is nothing (from a planning/running perspective) like the route I ran at SGDQ 2012; but, that doesn't mean anything to a casual viewer when literally 98-99% of the content in a nine-hour run is identical.
Given the desire to get a wider variety of RPGs happening next year, I think some of the longer FFs should take a year-long breather (especially the ones that didn't really get the response we expected -- they could just be getting stale for viewers). If nothing else, that'll give us the opportunity to see how some RPGs from the other series that people want to run stack up in terms of reception.
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Complicated, but a good idea. If we combined that idea with verbally describing it, I think that would make it pretty clear.
Edit: Complicated, in that I mean that people naturally won't read long descriptions included in a point-form list (like a list of challenges/choices). Shorter is better. But, yours is pretty darned clear.
Edit: Complicated, in that I mean that people naturally won't read long descriptions included in a point-form list (like a list of challenges/choices). Shorter is better. But, yours is pretty darned clear.
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Quote from garik16:
Instead, make it two donation challenges: X dollars to get each character, then when X is met, X dollars for the name.
Then you have the problem of people donating for the names before the "get the character" challenge is met, then having to contact mods to change their donation. Neither system is perfect.
I think what we really needed to do was just do a better job explaining the get/name-style incentives verbally while the game was on-going. For example, all the get/name-style incentives in FF8 were met -- but, I really tried to explain them every once in a while during my commentary (it doesn't hurt that there's so much downtime on discs 2 and 3 of FF8 during which I can do that explaining, lol).
Alec's suggestion would work, but I wasn't suggesting that people contact you to change the donation. I was suggesting two SEPARATE challenges, the money for getting the characters being separate from the naming.
To put it this way, you didn't get enough to even GET Yuffie this way. If you did it this way and you got yuffie, you might get less donations on the name of her, but you'd still come out ahead.
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I might be misunderstanding this but the way I read it:
People either donate for getting or for naming. But why should they donate for getting, if they don't like the winning name? And why should they donate for naming, if the incentive hasn't been met yet?
Or we could split everybody's donation, half onto getting, half onto naming. For the sanity of the donation tracking crew I'll just say no on that one, and I'm not even talking about people with odd numbers of cents in their donations.
Also it would cause havoc while searching for the current standings, because challenges are tracked on a different page than choices. So you would have to jump back and forth … not good.
AlecK: Exactly what Poxnor said ^^
People either donate for getting or for naming. But why should they donate for getting, if they don't like the winning name? And why should they donate for naming, if the incentive hasn't been met yet?
Or we could split everybody's donation, half onto getting, half onto naming. For the sanity of the donation tracking crew I'll just say no on that one, and I'm not even talking about people with odd numbers of cents in their donations.
Also it would cause havoc while searching for the current standings, because challenges are tracked on a different page than choices. So you would have to jump back and forth … not good.
AlecK: Exactly what Poxnor said ^^
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garik16: Let me simplify my comment, then, since you clearly misunderstood what I wrote. Two donation challenges, one for naming and one for getting: no. Just no.
Or, to try to better explain what I wrote before: Donor X donates towards naming Yuffie "Yippy." Donor X realizes that the "get Yuffie" incentive isn't met. Donor X is unhappy, and contacts the mods to change his donation towards getting Yuffie. Donor Y meanwhile, donates towards getting Yuffie. Donor Y then sees that the "get Yuffie" incentive has been exceeded. Donor Y contacts the mods to change his donation towards naming Yuffie "Yammers." Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Or, in short: no. Just no.
We just needed to do a better job explaining and selling the get/name-style incentives. Lesson learned for next time.
Or, to try to better explain what I wrote before: Donor X donates towards naming Yuffie "Yippy." Donor X realizes that the "get Yuffie" incentive isn't met. Donor X is unhappy, and contacts the mods to change his donation towards getting Yuffie. Donor Y meanwhile, donates towards getting Yuffie. Donor Y then sees that the "get Yuffie" incentive has been exceeded. Donor Y contacts the mods to change his donation towards naming Yuffie "Yammers." Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
Or, in short: no. Just no.
We just needed to do a better job explaining and selling the get/name-style incentives. Lesson learned for next time.
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Regarding C4L Prizes
I haven't forgotten about the winners. I am actively in talks with JDRF and UPS to secure a shipping deal. My apologies that it's taking so long, but this has not been forgotten. I want to get all those prizes out of my bonus room as much as you want to receive them
I haven't forgotten about the winners. I am actively in talks with JDRF and UPS to secure a shipping deal. My apologies that it's taking so long, but this has not been forgotten. I want to get all those prizes out of my bonus room as much as you want to receive them
My feelings on The Demon Rush
About the ffvii yuffie/vincent incentive. I know for a fact that UA and SMK want to work sub-choices into the tracker. Sub-choices being something like a donation target (such as getting Yuffie and Vincent), with name bids attached. If the donartion target is met, then great. If the target isn't met, then no harm done.
BTW I meant to post this, but SDA didn't let me earlier, but the FFX twitch archive is missing 30 minutes between 9:58 and 10:28 in the run. Disappointing.
EDIT: Disappointing to me, not of anyone here btw. Just wanted to make sure I don't sound like a selfish ass. Loving the runs now that I'm watching them as part of my commute.
EDIT: Disappointing to me, not of anyone here btw. Just wanted to make sure I don't sound like a selfish ass. Loving the runs now that I'm watching them as part of my commute.