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SfanFZR used gofast + tuning, that's why he is able to take corners in such high speeds. 387kph is the top speed of CLK-GTR with tuned transmission.


In the section with 90 degrees turns (with theatre on your right), first take the right hand turn under the tree, then the left hand turn around lamp (over grass). -> You must explain it a bit more.


Watch 1:00 section of SfanFZR's record, that's the section (he does it wrong though).

You are faster in basically every section, because the car behaviour is just way different than on PC. We already said that.
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Quote from Ewil:
We already said that.


Yes, sorry, I had forget it in my head, it is not the first time I forget something. please excuse.

I have a new Video set of improve's, so I hope you like it. Wink
It make not sense to create a new topic in the older consoles, so I will post my videos forward in your master topic.

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Hometown 01.03.62 El Nino - NO Horsepower cheat



replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/p05kym

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Rocky Pass 2.06.46 El Nino - NO Horsepower cheat

2:06 was the time I was aim for, so it is Final. I will try later this track with the horsepower cheat.



replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vzooit

original played Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/aam57t

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Empire City 1.28.53 El Nino - with Horsepower cheat



replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jbjsj1
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update with new tracks Wink


Redrock Ridge 1.43.12 El Nino - no cheat



original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ytinhr

replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5yrx0a

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Atlantica 1.34.43 El Nino - no cheat



original played  video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/fd6w93

replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gp6pml

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Country Woods 1.54.53 El Nino - no cheat



Do you see the second record in the list ? - 1.55.68 That had sooo HURT me !!

original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/px50nw

replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vz2hqj

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This is a video of Rocky Pass, it show a glitch 'go out of map' and it prove that any glitch do not help. I do not know when I had post this before in any form.



video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/53rgrb

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Thanks for watching
and Peace Smiley
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Ewil: 2012-12-11 03:01:30 pm
Nice runs. Just don't upload replay video, it's unwatchable Smiley Or at least switch to a static view, otherwise it's just one *wrooooom* after another.

If you happen to have PC version, you can watch my replays here: http://www.tombrunner.net/NFS. I'm not gonna make any videos yet as these are still WIP, but I definitely recommend to watch them, so you can improve your records.
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MortyreR45: 2012-12-12 05:53:02 am
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Thanks, you like it. Smiley
For the replay videos, when the camera is not good, than I will not upload any of this videos anymore. I was think it is a good idea that you can see the high jumps. But you have right, the *wrooooom* is sooo ugly. Grin

Many, many thanks for your Files. That is what I need to compare the tactics. And I have the PC version ;), but it do not work on my win7 system. The installiation do not work, because of 16bit. I have a multilanguage 3 (english, german, france) pc cdrom iso ~600mb. Normal I was a PC player in all of my life, but the 'Need for Speed' games I had only play it mostly on my ps1 system. So I definitely need your videos. When your runs are in wip, that is not a problem, I know what you can do.

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EDIT: The game work on win7, I had use a VistaInstaller patch and it works good. But I have some grafic problems, so I have a HD grafik card and the game has only a minimal resolution. I am testing Smiley
The "minimal" resolution is actually the maximum resolution Smiley I've never been able to switch to higher resolution in 3D mode than 800x600 (software supports up to 1024x768 or so).
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MortyreR45: 2012-12-14 09:23:35 am
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MortyreR45: 2012-12-14 08:38:19 am
MortyreR45: 2012-12-14 08:37:29 am
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So, I had watch all your videos, I had also use fraps and encode it to a other container. I must truly say, we are both run this game near to perfect, there is not much that we can do, but 1 seconds can saved in your and in my runs. It is mostly done. I had also play a bit the PC version, but I will play forward the psx version, because I will not learn again this game, when I had play this game for over 13 years on my psx console. You know what I mean ? This learning with the controller. The PC version can very good break corners and faster.  This has a other feeling, because psx version can not so fast break the corners, but runs a bit faster and max speed is slower. Enough final

HT -> /

RR -> Your tactic in the beginning is good with the cactus. I will test it, but for differences you must read CW.Your jump after the cactus in the beginning was so beautiful. I think you can use a bit more speed. But here we can see that jumps will good work in the PC version. Smiley that was a very good run

AT -> (1lap in ~1.08.14) Your tactics are definitely good. I must try it again, because you have more speed for the next corner and it is a middle corner so it is not hard to use it with more speed. I was not sure what is better the short way with ~240 or the long way with more speed, I thing ~300. Smiley yeah more speed

But I will not change my tactic for the 'S' corner to the end. I will lost definitely speed, because the psx version can not so good handle small corners.

RP -> /

CW -> This wood shortcut is complete different to both versions. In the PC version you can run on the most ways in the woods, but the psx version has only one way, you must go a bit foward than a bit back, it is strange to describe it. The rest of this track is the same.

AQ -> in progress

LC -> in progress

When you are in the tunnel, is it good to use the shortcut, near the temple ? I was testing a bit, but not sure.

SU -> in progress

That is like RR, beautiful. Smiley

EC -> I had say this jump in RR is beautiful. Sad

I finally understand what you mean 'first take the right hand turn under the tree', yes it will work when I am go slow. You stop on the jump with 170 and next on the corner with 209. So you see in my video 240. I say no to this, your speed is to slow because of use must go slow down the break the corner exactly.

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My next work is AQ, LC and SU. 3 tracks left Wink
LC - Yes.

The only reason why PSX can't handle small corners that well is because I use technique called "instant steering". The idea is to get the game to think you use analog controller while you actually use a digital one. I do it like this: Have gamepad plugged in before you start the game, start any race, go to options (Esc) and set all keys to keyboard. As long as you don't quit the game entirely (you can leave races), you'll have instant full-lock steering thus much faster response. I'd say it saves at least one second on each track.

I don't know what options for controllers PSX have, but if you can plug in a keyboard, it might work.
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I do full understand what you mean with the keyboard. Wink
But the psx system has not a keyboard, or it is console manipulation (banned sda rule for console games). The first videos I had post in this topic, was played on normal controller, the videos on sendspace, was used with analog controller. Some jumps will work better with normal controller, but long corners do work better with analog. The port has some lags for the psx version, sometimes you can not move for 1 second the controller, that is also the reason I do not use the gears.
In nfs4 it will work to change the controller settings in the option menue in the game, but nfs3 you must go out the game and than you can change the controller settings.

I had not play the last days any game, because watching old tv series. So wait the last 3 tracks are coming later.
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My last demo video for the year 2012 ->

Lost Canyons 2.07.59 El Nino - no cheat



original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/kefsm0

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I have also done a demo video for 'Need for Speed The Run' PC version, but only the complete stage 5 'Aspan mountains' on hard difficulty all done in perfect mode.

We see us next year Wink Peace
You really shouldn't use that jump inside the cave, driving around is way faster.
I haven't played this game ever but I enjoy watching these videos, crazy physics lol

Are there 9 tracks overall?

And when are you going to continue this, Ewil? I'd love to see some updates/progress from time to time^^
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hello hesto, yes nfsIII has only 9 main tracks.

@ ewil, I will try it again later.


Hot Pursuit or Single Race mode Tracks (8+1) :

Hometown
Redrock Ridge
Atlantica
Rocky Pass
Country Woods
Lost Canyons
Aquatica
The Summit
Empire City

PSX version Secret Tracks (5) :

name -> code

The Room -> PLAYTM
Caverns -> XCAV8
Auto Cross -> XCNTRY
Space Race -> MNBEAM
Scorpio-7 -> GLDFSH



I had found this on gamefaqs, so long search for a example of a list for the psx version->


PSX Track Records List by Chris Wasnetsky (scurty234) , date 2-04-03 :

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/198115-need-for-speed-iii-hot-pursuit/faqs/16732

These are track records (Not counting the secret tracks). These will give you an idea how well you did on these tracks. I will be listed as SPOILT. If you want to submit your own, please E-Mail me using the address at the beginning of this FAQ.

HOMETOWN (2 Laps)
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      Name    Car        Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  1:32.71    1:32.71
  2. SPOILT  El Nino    2:25.81    1:08.12

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  HOMETOWN (4 Laps)

      Name    Car        Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino    4:43.93    1:06.93
  2. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  4:45.09    1:07.78
  3. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  4:50.21    1:08.43
  4. SPOILT  El Nino    4:50.75    1:08.43
  5. SPOILT  El Nino    5:00.56    1:06.03
                                           
  ------------------------------------------
  HOMETOWN (8 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    9:42.06      1:09.09
  2. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  10:16.29    1:12.96
  3. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  10:47.78    1:11.56

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  REDROCK RIDGE (2 Laps)

      Name      Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    2:19.75    2:19.75
  2. SPOILT  El Nino      4:07.03    2:01.37

  ------------------------------------------
  REDROCK RIDGE (4 Laps)

      Name      Car        Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino    8:17.37    1:56.68

  ------------------------------------------
  REDROCK RIDGE (8 Laps)

      Name    Car        Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino  16:34.46    1:55.12

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ATLANTICA (2 Laps)

      Name    Car        Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino    3:52.75    1:54.37

  ------------------------------------------
  ATLANTICA (4 Laps)

      Name    Car        Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino    7:40.06    1:46.84
  2. SPOILT  El Nino    7:45.59    1:45.96

  ------------------------------------------
  ATLANTICA (8 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  14:49.87    1:43.65

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  ROCKY PASS (2 Laps)

    Name    Car      Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    2:35.87    2:35.87
  2. SPOILT  El Nino      4:41.43    2:20.62
                                           
  ------------------------------------------
  ROCKY PASS (4 Laps)

      Name    Car        Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino    9:26.43    2:15.34

  ------------------------------------------
  ROCKY PASS (8 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  18:49.53    2:16:28

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  COUNTRY WOODS (2 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    2:40.68    2:40.68

  ------------------------------------------
  COUNTRY WOODS (4 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino      9:12.06    2:14.21
  2. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    9:29.71    2:16.25

  ------------------------------------------
  COUNTRY WOODS (8 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  18:43.68    2:08.62

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  LOST CANYONS (2 Laps)

      Name    Car        Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino    4:58.21    2:22.18

  ------------------------------------------
  LOST CANYONS (4 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  10:15.15    2:28.40
  2. SPOILT  El Nino    10:25.96    2:31.40

  ------------------------------------------
  LOST CANYONS (8 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  19:09.33    2:29.67

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  AQUATICA (2 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    3:04.00    3:04.00

  ------------------------------------------
  AQUATICA (4 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino      9:54.65    2:22.71
  2. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    9:55.56    2:24.62

  ------------------------------------------
  AQUATICA (8 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  17:59.79    2:23.98

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  THE SUMMIT (2 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    3:21.15    3:21.15
  2. SPOILT  El Nino      5:55.12    2:56.37

  ------------------------------------------
  THE SUMMIT (4 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  El Nino    12:08.37    2:55.75
  2. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  12:39.50    2:57.90

  ------------------------------------------
  THE SUMMIT (8 Laps)

      Name    Car      Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  25:12.09    2:56.89

  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  EMPIRE CITY (2 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    2:05.21    2:05.21

  2. SPOILT  El Nino    3:55.34    1:54.84

  ------------------------------------------
  EMPIRE CITY (4 Laps)

      Name    Car            Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR    7:51.78    1:53.43

  ------------------------------------------
  EMPIRE CITY (8 Laps)

      Name    Car          Total Time  Best Lap

  1. SPOILT  CLK-GTR  14:49.45    1:54.73

Those are some really weird times suggesting that he didn't really try much. That's like first attempt or sth Cheesy

hesto: Very soon, I was playing lot of single-player games lately and Diablo.
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I had upload the original demo videos for Empire City 1.28.53 (with cheat) and Hometown 01.03.62 (no cheat), because I had only upload the replay videos and you had say it is a bad idea, here the links. ->

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pycf12
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jfxjhf

And ewil it is ok when you will play Diablo, I understand this when the head is up for a other game. Wink I do not know what you had play last on single player games, but the new farcry 3 and hitmanA is so boring. I do only play 1 best lap and I do not know when this is accept for sda. Yesterday I was watch the sda Extreme-G run and this is also only 1 best lap il table run. Mr. Jansen had also start the video 1-2 seconds before the next lap come.
I think it's gonna be like SW: Episode 1 Racer (http://speeddemosarchive.com/EpisodeIRacer.html). That's best lap and best time for 2 laps since that's the shortest race.

I only play Diablo ocassionally now, so I'll have plenty time speedracing. And yeah, new games are pretty boring Smiley
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The marathon come to the end and it was a good one (the reason I had not upload the videos in the middle of this week). I have new year improving videos. Wink More speed, more optimization. I had use a other camera option for the replay videos. Try it out.


Redrock Ridge 1.41.81 El Nino - no cheat (final)



original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zwgn14

replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/57ql7x

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Atlantica 1.33.18 El Nino - no cheat (unsure)



original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/17w8xk

replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ljmo7q

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Lost Canyons 2.07.00 El Nino - no cheat (final)



original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ffkz0g

replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/lfvtpq

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Empire City 01.31.84 El Nino - no cheat (final)



original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/r7tw0w

replay Video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8bgm5e
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ewil, I know you had wait for the last two street tracks and today I will give you one of them. Aquatica. I had not found your demo video AQ - 2:00:59/4:08:59 in your index page. Only what I had found in your page was 2:01:71/4:10:28 ?

Aquatica 2.00.28 El Nino - no cheat



You will see in the first big jump area, that I use a wall-bumper, in the air. This is very hard, because in most time the car do crash. When I not do this I will lost 3 seconds in this corner. In normal way I must use 180 and you have also ~190, but with this wall-bumper I have more than 200. The tunnels are a bit different of jump areas in the PC version. So or so I do not like this track, but mostly perfect.

original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2m7ls7

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The last track is done and the psx table for 1 best lap is complete.


The Summit 2.32.75 El Nino - no cheat




original played video DVD 180mb ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vmrmne


XviD version 100mb (vbr4700 , looks not so good) ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8uazjy
Yeah sorry, the 2:00:59 is now uploaded.

The first big jump in AQ is something I definitely wanted to look at. I was thinking more about using "brake-dance" like I do in EC, but bumping off the wall could be better. Sub-2 minutes could be possible with this trick.

As for the tunnels, you may have noticed that you are less likely to jump over bumps if you turn hard over it instead of just going straight. The tunnel in 27th second of your record must be done like that, you have to drive left almost as you would want to hit the mountain, then do a hard turn right. You can see this in my record.

The turn in 1:09 is also done badly. Unless the handing on PSX is that much different from PC, you should only use brakes for steering, not actually slowing down the car before a corner. Just go full throttle for this corner and just as you start turning, add a bit of brakes and the car should slide into the corner. I absolutely love this technique, it's just so much fun to steer with brakes Smiley

The last section is done completely incorrect unless there is some problem with jumps. Same applies for you AT record. The route I do is the fastest one, although you still have top speed before going into the chicane, so that's probably faster on PSX.

Summit seems ok, you just need to work on your best lines. Ironically, this is probably the easiest track Smiley
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Thanks for your comment.

AT and AQ is not the best, you have right and I was knowing before that you will noticed this.

For the tunnel in 27, there is a big jump platform. For the tunnel in 1:09 this is different from the PC version. In the psx version in exact this corner is a bad jump platform, it is very stupid, because the PC version has not this uber jump. But I will try to improve this corners with the wall-breaker trick. Wink To the end I will not do the tactic what you do 'the S corner', because .... of jumps.

pictures from replay videos AT and AQ ->







Summit, is the hardest track for me, because after the long tunnel in the beginning, the area has many jump platforms and it is frustrating.

I can give you the replay videos, when you want ?

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I will try it again later. Wink

btw. on youtube is also a psx runner.
Try to use the hard-turn trick like I mentioned earlier. I'm pretty sure you can avoid the jump in the 1:09 corner.
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Improved Wink


new time: Atlantica 1.29.31 El Nino - no cheat



original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/rbdqem


new time: Aquatica 1.58.37 El Nino - no cheat



original played video ->
http://www.sendspace.com/file/5y05lt
I've been messing with this game lately and it seems like I'll be done with it soon.

Hometown - 1:04:46 - Haven't tried to beat this yet, but it's gonna be pure luck if I do.

Redrock Ridge - 1:44:65 - Almost a whole second of improvement, which literaly came out of nowhere. There's a tiny mistake, which I don't like, so I'm gonna try to beat that time, but since I'm still not sure how I managed to get this time (I couldn't beat 1:45 for a long time), it's possible this is final.

Atlantica - 1:35:21 - There's a very tiny mistake at the end, otherwise I would have called it final. However, I've tried a lot and the best I got was 1:35:65, so I have no idea what I did before. This track is also heavy luck dependent, so not really my favourite to do.

Rocky Pass - 2:08:75 - Flawless run and a time, which I haven't been able to even get close to. My second best is still 2:09:31, but I probably know, where's the problem, so I'll keep trying.

The rest of the tracks should be easily improveable since I've discovered the 5th gear skip trick since then.
I've just realized I have to redo ALL tracks Smiley You see, there's the thing called Traction in Driving Assists. It basically cancels out any skidmarks you create during cornering, so the car turns much better and you loose less speed. The downside is that the car is very twitchy, so precision driving is really not an option. I've actually never seen anyone to use this settings, but since this is speedrun, you have to use whatever legal means necessary in order to get the best time possible. I'll also try to not use instant steering, which should help the twitchy handling and is more safe for verification, because it's technically a hardware tempering.

Anyway, first good run of LC without any major crash - 2:04:68. That's more than 3 seconds of improvement.