Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland (100% v12

2006-10-13 05:10:52 am

Fucking Weeaboo

Mixing is always consistant if you let the wheel run the full course. However this is REALLY time consuming and wheel is a pain in the ass to control, and a lot of times isn't really worth it, especially on spots that don't have a lot of flat surfaces.

In practices at work the other days, I was down to about 2 deaths, though there was absolutely no consistancy to where I was dying. Though I was on occassion making it through 7-2 w/o death. Take Sword in, switch to Throw, then take Burning on the way out. While Hammer may do more damage than sword, sword will be easier to use on the Elephant mini-boss (after that I get throw, so it doesn't matter after that).

I'm not sure of all the differences between the NES and GBA versions. The bosses are jumpable, but 7-2 you really need to be on top of things, especially for Throw and Backdrop minibosses because when you take the secret door they REALLY move fast.

At least with the fix in lag reduction, it's helped my ability to play this game. It's amazing how well I was doing in Amazing Mirror despite this problem...

Mixing is always consistant if you let the wheel run the full course.  However this is REALLY time consuming and wheel is a pain in the ass to control, and a lot of times isn't really worth it, especially on spots that don't have a lot of flat surfaces.

In practices at work the other days, I was down to about 2 deaths, though there was absolutely no consistancy to where I was dying.  Though I was on occassion making it through 7-2 w/o death.  Take Sword in, switch to Throw, then take Burning on the way out.  While Hammer may do more damage than sword, sword will be easier to use on the Elephant mini-boss (after that I get throw, so it doesn't matter after that).

I'm not sure of all the differences between the NES and GBA versions.  The bosses are jumpable, but 7-2 you really need to be on top of things, especially for Throw and Backdrop minibosses because when you take the secret door they REALLY move fast.

At least with the fix in lag reduction, it's helped my ability to play this game.  It's amazing how well I was doing in Amazing Mirror despite this problem...

Sir VG

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Sir VG: 2006-10-13 08:44:00 pm

2006-10-13 08:31:33 pm

Fucking Weeaboo

v7 - 1:01:04

That ever elusive sub-1hr mark keeps taunting me.

Deaths:
4-5 (Last section, just finally ran out of life.)
7-1 (I HIT THAT DAMN WADDLEDEE DAMNIT! I CONTEST THIS DEATH!)
7-2 (No surprise here.)
7-4 (I just plain screwed this level up)

I did one interesting change in the gameplan. I go back to 7-5 before DeDeDe and grab Crash. As for Nightmare King, he got completely obliterated. ^^

Factoid: This run now has the most revisions of any game I've done to date.

rms4wwf

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rms4wwf: 2006-10-13 11:56:15 pm

2006-10-13 11:55:59 pm

secret of mana master.

i have to see this run, because i have no freaking idea on what to do. it was so confusing right after the first boss. i get lost so easily and i give up on it. if only the faqs make sense, i would have done this. but, i have no idea on what to do next. hehe.

Insetik 47

2006-10-14 12:32:09 am

Wow... Crash actually being of significant use...

I forgot all about this, glad to see you keep on trucking.

(Holds up GIANT-ASS "GO VG!!!" sign)

Sir VG

2006-10-14 12:39:19 am

Fucking Weeaboo

Crash also is great for the dual Bomber Bros. The first time you fight them, you have to hit one of them once, then target the rest of the bombs at the 2nd. Then after you beat the 2nd, you use Crash which kills the first.

Second time you fight them (in 6-6 I believe), Crash will kill them in one hit.

rms4wwf

2006-10-14 12:51:23 am

secret of mana master.

oh well, i try. Huh?

Sir VG

2006-11-02 10:22:21 pm

Fucking Weeaboo

CELEBRATE WITH ME PEOPLE!!!

v8 - 0:58:25

SUB-1 HOUR!!!!!!!! WOO HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

(I did suffer one death in 7-5, but you'll just have to deal with it. I've struggled long and hard enough as it is to get it to this point.)

Overall it was fantastic, save for the first Bomber Bros fight which the timing was all off with them for some reason. Oh well...

Rael

2006-11-02 10:38:02 pm

Congratulations! :party:

I'm really looking forward to seeing this.

X9

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X9: 2006-11-02 11:49:24 pm

2006-11-02 11:45:08 pm

hai yah

same here, sounds great- took me weeks to find all the hidden switches back in the day. shame it's not the original Kirby's Adventure, but it's close enough.

Only 1 death sounds awesome as well, unless this remake is easier or something: speedrunning in KA = lots of deaths, unless your really careful to the point where it's not much of a "speed" run.

congrats on sub 1 hour!

Sir VG

2006-11-02 11:49:28 pm

Fucking Weeaboo

Yeah, I know it's not the original, but it'll have to do.

And personally, from what I've seen of the original compared to this, the remake is much harder. Look at the TAS and see the potential for 1-hit killing pretty much every mini boss in the game. I can only do it with the first Bomber Bros.

Tack on remade sections and added sections...

Floogal

2006-11-03 05:35:00 am

Congratulations! I'm guessing your death was being burned/electrocuted into the pit in the third section, right? I really hate the random movements of the enemies (while speedrunning, anyways).

Well, I've played the ROM of this game, so I am now familiar with the differences between the versions. With that, let me say:

- I retract my urging to use Ball against King Dedede (which power did you end up using?). While it still has an attack power of 16 in this game, it is harder to control (and it isn't easy to control in KA as it is). Bouncing off of the top of the screen is both a blessing and a curse, but transforming and turning around is now so clunky. Sigh.... It was one of my favourite powers, too.

- I now understand why you hate 7-2 so much. While the bosses' HP have remained the same, all of the minibosses' HP have been jacked up from the 20-30 range to the 30-40 range. Being bigger doesn't help, either.

- Meta-knight actually seems easier than in KA. Since Sword's power has increased from 5 to 6, he now only needs 10 hits, not 12. Also, he seems to be somewhat slower. Well, he does have that new (and mostly useless) upward-stab attack.

Congratulations!  I'm guessing your death was being burned/electrocuted into the pit in the third section, right?  I really hate the random movements of the enemies (while speedrunning, anyways).

Well, I've played the ROM of this game, so I am now familiar with the differences between the versions.  With that, let me say:

- I retract my urging to use Ball against King Dedede (which power did you end up using?).  While it still has an attack power of 16 in this game, it is harder to control (and it isn't easy to control in KA as it is).  Bouncing off of the top of the screen is both a blessing and a curse, but transforming and turning around is now so clunky.  Sigh....   It was one of my favourite powers, too.

- I now understand why you hate 7-2 so much.  While the bosses' HP have remained the same, all of the minibosses' HP have been jacked up from the 20-30 range to the 30-40 range.  Being bigger doesn't help, either.

- Meta-knight actually seems easier than in KA.  Since Sword's power has increased from 5 to 6, he now only needs 10 hits, not 12.  Also, he seems to be somewhat slower.  Well, he does have that new (and mostly useless) upward-stab attack.

Sir VG

2006-11-03 06:08:22 am

Fucking Weeaboo

Powers against bosses:

Lv 1: Sword
Lv 2: Hi Jump
Lv 3: Hi Jump
Lv 4: Hi Jump
Lv 5: Mallet
Lv 6: Sword
Lv 7: Crash/Normal
Lv 8: Star Rod

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Hi Jump in this game. Too bad for me it got tweaked in Kirby Squeak Squad so it's really wild. Sad

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Congratulations! I'm guessing your death was being burned/electrocuted into the pit in the third section, right? I really hate the random movements of the enemies (while speedrunning, anyways).

Yeah, 1 life left and I got burned in the 3rd section. I was kinda expecting it, considering that 7-4 didn't go as well as I liked.

getter77

2006-11-03 02:06:32 pm

100% runs=great to watch

Massive props and congrats abound! I shall dedicate the delicious deer n biscuits with special dipping sauce I'll have for dinner tonight to your accomplishment.

More Kirby is like More Sonic....erotic no matter how you look at it.

MissileWaster

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MissileWaster: 2006-11-03 02:43:36 pm

2006-11-03 02:43:12 pm

Hoorah! Congrats on this time! Are you going to send it in?

Insetik 47

2006-11-03 02:45:42 pm

Excuse me for a moment.

OMGNOWAIROFLPWN!!146829!

That out of the case, I'm genuinely surprised that you found the double-guy-star tactic on the jumping jack in 1-2 by yourself. Man, that's fun...

Send. now.

Sir VG

2006-11-03 03:47:07 pm

Fucking Weeaboo

I've already sent my notification. I just need to work on my novel...I mean notes for Mike.

And the 1-2 mini boss is definately the best mini boss fight. ^^

Insetik 47

2006-11-03 04:36:14 pm

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And the 1-2 mini boss is definately the best mini boss fight. ^^

Duh. Killing him off before his boss music starts FTW. Grin

psxfreak101

2006-11-03 08:12:19 pm

DW-Addict

Nice! Congrats on getting a sub-hour time! Shall be fun to watch. Might even give me enough incentive/motivation to play this once more, and maybe even try to beat my Meta-Knightmare time.

Speaking of which, do you intend on doing Extra or Meta-Knightmare modes? I'd be particularly interested in seeing an awesome time in Meta-Knightmare mode, if purely because that was the ONLY thing I was playing on my GBA for months on end Smiley

Sir VG

2006-11-03 08:24:38 pm

Fucking Weeaboo

I don't have any desire to be doing a speedrun of Extra mode, since it's the same game with just half the life. Meta Knightmare Mode I'd consider at some point down the road as well as maybe retrying Boss Rush.

psxfreak101

2006-11-03 08:35:03 pm

DW-Addict

Heh. Forgot Boss Rush exists. Didn't care for it after I beat it once. Hooray for terrible time of 8 minutes!

Sir VG

2006-11-06 06:48:54 am

Fucking Weeaboo

For humor sake, I went back through and looked at how many different powers were used. In this sense, it should be much more entertaining than the TAS.

Powers Used (In Order of First Use)
Burning
Spark
Sword
Tornado
Wheel
Fire
Mike
Hi-Jump
Ice
UFO
Crash
Throw
Stone
Mallet
Laser
Parasol
Star Rod

Powers Not Used
Backdrop
Ball
Beam
Cutter
Freeze
Light
Needle
Sleep

That should be all of them.

Notes sent off to Mike. Just waiting for verifiers.

Sir VG

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Sir VG: 2006-12-03 10:15:36 am

2006-12-03 10:15:21 am

Fucking Weeaboo

Sorry guys. No Kirby for you. 8 versions isn't enough. Cry

Leave your ~~complaints~~ comments here.

Insetik 47

2006-12-03 02:24:41 pm

Noooooo! Insetik...want...kirby...can't...

INSETIK SMASH!

Amazing Ampharos

2006-12-04 04:23:33 am

It was rejected due to not being fast enough? That looks like a really good time too; what was said?

Lightweight

2006-12-04 06:19:03 pm

Why don't you just try a any% run first? You'll get a faster time, and it'll serve as further training for your 100% run.

And how are the times for boss rush mode? My best is 4:35.