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Crankeey: 2014-09-02 06:12:34 pm
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Crankeey: 2014-09-02 05:03:11 pm
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Get over here!
Quote from Crankeey:
I agree that it somewhat ruins the flow of the game to access the encores, but the levels are still interesting enough that re-entering a chapter shouldn't be too much of a bother from a viewers perspective aside from the ch. 8 encores. Considering there isn't much of a community built around this game yet, I'm unsure whether it would be fair to complete the encores before the finale granted all BBT runs I've seen are "NG+" as lack of item usage would be boring as hell to watch or run. If completing the encores prior to the finales is allowed than it definitely wouldn't offset the flow much, otherwise I agree fuck true 100% for the sake of the ending.


You must be very new here since there actually is a community around BBT https://forum.speeddemosarchive.com/post/battleblock_theater2.html and there's probably a lot more people working on the game aswell. NG+ is not working on the steam version as the items are not stored in a file but your inventory.

Quote from Crankeey:
Considering I have yet to see much co-op any% in action I can't argue against this statement. However, I do know that single player any% has plenty of item usage. I've found multiple uses where time can be saved using the shockball in half the levels and after several runs I'm unable to remember the equips without notepad open. But again, that's single player. For entertainment purposes, co-op in any game almost definitely wins over single player no salt necessary ;).

One other thing I probably should've mentioned about "slop": I imagine both players going off on their own path and when one player hits a slight bump in the road it can easily take away from a successful trick/sequence break from the other player. Is this enough to justify any% wins over 100%? Of course not, it's just something to keep in mind. I'm only bringing this up because this game is very unique and small things like that can easily go unnoticed.


I agree with PJ that Any% wouldn't be a good watch. It might be faster but so far I've been more impressed with 100% routing than Any%.

Mistakes happen in a marathon. Even singleplayer would suffer from that fact. There's enough unsafe tricks in both routes.

Quote from Crankeey:
*cough* Mecha's Pac-man 2 run *cough* but for real I understand they're both capable of it, but it's hard to lay down an appropriate estimate when there's still so much progress to be made between now and AGDQ.


That run was pretty hilarious. Also this probably wasn't a smart move from someone who has to prove himself first. I'm pretty sure PJ and Mecha will crush their estimate since they both have spent a lot more time with that game than the current runner community combined.
Terraffirmative!
This is not even close to the place to argue about battleblock theater categories, and quite frankly Crankeey I have no idea what the point of your posts are. The decision about what category to run isn't yours, and won't be.

So yea knock it off.
ShadowDraft: I'm aware of that thread, never said the community was non-existent. Mistakes happen in every game, I know, the point was small successes can go unnoticed in BBT.

Murph: I was just explaining why I thought any% was still a good watch, never implied anything related to this was my decision, but I thought the whole point of this thread besides asking questions was to discuss the game submissions, my bad.
Terraffirmative!
Thats not how your post read at all. Last warning, drop it.

Sidenote, I undid most of the earlier bans in the thread. The rules still apply, and will be enforced just as strictly to prevent this thread from turning into a mess.
Haters gonna hate
Quote from Crankeey:
*cough* Mecha's Pac-man 2 run *cough* but for real I understand they're both capable of it, but it's hard to lay down an appropriate estimate when there's still so much progress to be made between now and AGDQ.


I'm sorry that I work a full time job and used up all of my free time making perlers for the marathon and practicing my games. What you also might not know is the schedule got pushed so far back, I did that run after being up over 30 hours. I was tired as fuck and forgot a few things. I was also encouraged not to practice it too much so somethings would come as a surprise, which did happen a few times. I also didn't know I was over estimate until the run was over since no one mentioned it to me and I thought my estimate was more than what it actually was.

I'm not sure why you brought that run up at all, but it sounds like a personal attack at me and it's pretty damn rude.
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Deuceler: 2014-09-02 06:29:17 pm
Deuceler: 2014-09-02 06:22:59 pm
SPEEDruns not SAFEruns
I just have to say - Mecha's avatar is on point for this one.

I really feel like the days of preparing runs after submission/before the marathon with no routing/learning/experience are probably over for the most part. There is such a large community trying to get into the marathon now, there is no reason for it as there probably was in years past.

Another thing I wanted to mention is IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME SUBMITTING DON'T GET DISCOURAGED IF YOU GET SHOT DOWN. I've submitted to the last 4 marathons and not got in a single time (currently pending now), but if you look I haven't been on par with the quality of runs others were doing. Quit feeling like because you run a game, or make up a small community, your run deserves to be there. Pay your fucking dues, support going fast, and quit trying to gain popularity from something that should be fun. If you didn't realize it already, bitching and whining about your game just makes you look like an asshole.
Sonic's biggest fan at heart
So, I'm not sure if this should go in this topic, but I have to ask, how exactly do you guys get the prizes to give away in the first place? Do people offer them before the marathon or what?
<(^_^)>
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So, I'm not sure if this should go in this topic, but I have to ask, how exactly do you guys get the prizes to give away in the first place? Do people offer them before the marathon or what?


There'll be a thread that goes up about it in the near future
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Zwataketa: 2014-09-03 01:25:30 pm
Sonic's biggest fan at heart
Ok. Nice to know.

Also, I feel I should apologize about my tendency to make "zero-content posts". I'm not trying to, just sometimes I feel like I have to end a conversation with an ok or something of the like, otherwise it feels weird. When those times come, I try to add something so it's not a completely pointless post. (For the bubsy thing, that didn't register as no content in my head, as it was related to the point I was currently having a conversation about in this topic.) I'm not saying I shouldn't be banned or anything for that, I'm working on it, this is a learning process for me.

I just feel like that needs to be said.
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MURPHAGATOR!: 2014-09-03 02:19:20 pm
Terraffirmative!
This is a forum, not a conversation. If every person confirmed every little detail they read, it would quickly become a clustered unusable mess. This is for discussing the game submissions, not for airing every minor concern about the marathon.

If you really feel the need to post further about this or similar issues, you should take it up directly in a private thread with a moderator. I for one am done discussing it here.
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Cool Matty: 2014-09-03 10:10:46 pm
Cool Matty: 2014-09-03 10:09:27 pm
Cool Matty: 2014-09-03 10:08:37 pm
Cool Matty: 2014-09-03 10:08:29 pm
Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.
SUBMISSIONS ARE CLOSED

You can still view the status of your, and all submissions. There will be an update to the website hopefully this week (depending on Mike's schedule) to add submission modifications as promised earlier. In addition, there will be email notifications for status updates after the first phase of accept/reject is complete. You will be sent an email if your submission status changes, or has a comment added. Obviously, if your submissions are rejected during this first phase, you will not receive a notification (we're not keen to send thousands of emails).

There will be some significant downtime when the site is updated for these new features, as I will be also upgrading our backend servers with some newfangled tech and probably enabling SSL once again.
Does it take a while for submitted runs to show in the List?
I see mine under "My Submissions" but not on "All submissions"

Blaze
Professional Second Banana
They'll show on the public list once Mike has set them to Accept, Reject, or Waitlist status.
Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.
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Does it take a while for submitted runs to show in the List?
I see mine under "My Submissions" but not on "All submissions"

Blaze


What puwexil said. Pending runs are not displayed on the all submissions list. Any status (reject/accept/bonus/waitlist) will put it on the list.
My feelings on The Demon Rush
Okay it took longer for me to recover from PAX than I thought. I knew I was tired coming back, but it seems like I was even more tired and sicker than I thought I was (I'm fine now) so I spent all of Wednesday resting. I'm now getting back on submissions and *should* be done with them by this weekend.

frankieframeskip: Check your pms, I sent you a response last week.

Countneko: To add onto the points of what kirbymastah and moooh said, if I provided reasons for why I rejected every single run, the reasons would look very samey after a while. I reject a lot of games for similar reasons (not a great/slow watch, too obscure), and after a while I'd just half-ass reasons because I would become exhausted and not complete

Wink
Caution: This user contains Kana ^_^
Quote from mikwuyma:
Countneko: To add onto the points of what kirbymastah and moooh said, if I provided reasons for why I rejected every single run, the reasons would look very samey after a while. I reject a lot of games for similar reasons (not a great/slow watch, too obscure), and after a while I'd just half-ass reasons because I would become exhausted and not complete

Wink

Simple fix: Include standard responses in a drop-down menu for the repetitive answers. 'Too slow watch', 'stepping back in favour of <enter game>', 'can take a break after having been featured in the previous <amount> GDQs' and finally 'non-standard reason' for those that require explaining Wink
Not a walrus
Then people would complain about getting a canned answer.
Fucking Weeaboo
Quote from UraniumAnchor:
Then people would complain about getting a canned answer.


They'll find something to complain about, one way or the other.
Terraffirmative!
Its true, but if people are going to complain regardless then I see no reason to waste more of the organizers time.
Suppose I offer 4 games, and one of them doesn't get accepted.  If I had only offered that one game, would the chances that it would be accepted increase?  More generally, are the number of runs offered by one person change the chances per run?

Also cutting Madoola but accepting my Ninja Gaiden and Battle Kid offerings is pretty silly.  It was easily my strongest and most valuable offering, and would rather have nothing but that one make it in.
I'm confused by your submission, the video link is for glitchless, but the pitch sounds like it is for glitched. Which is it?
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duckfist: 2014-09-05 11:25:42 am
Does it matter?  I clearly put "any%".  That was the only decent recording i had at the time.
edit: to clarify, there's little difference between the two so don't worry about it
So I noticed that Tterraj42's rogue legacy any% got accepted and mine is still on the waiting list. In his description he mentions a race with me at 40:00. I will gladly participate on such a race but I do have one issue that was an issue from when I started. I have no videos or highlights and I absolutely can not provide them. My computer can not handle Rogue Legacy and streaming/recording at the same time.

It literally lags my frame rate to a point of it being unplayable with input delays on my Microsoft controller for Steam. Rest assured I know the route and have completed Speedruns of it.Offline. While I have not speedrun the remix bosses I have defeated all of them before and am capable again in a faster pace.

Sorry about the issues and it's perfectly understandable if I get cut.
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Vulajin: 2014-09-05 01:46:47 pm
In such a position, I'd recommend you at least try to find some way to record a speedrun - even using a physical camera to record yourself playing it would be better than nothing. If the game makes second cuts, you'd need to show proof of your capabilities (and practice) to be considered for a race.

For reference, when there have been multiple runners offering the same game this round, sometimes Mike has "accepted" all of the offers even if he does not necessarily intend a race, and sometimes he has only "accepted" one and "waitlisted" the others to indicate that he accepted the game but will consider which runner should run later on. This is a very rough process at the moment, so I would wait until after second cuts are complete to start sorting out who's running.