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Wheels: 2013-08-20 07:11:31 pm
I'm the keeper of Time.
Brutal Legend, Normal mode any%: 2:00:00. I think Jack Black's hammy acting and the environment would be a fun action/RTS for the marathon.

I'm sure a couple of other runners are interested in this game. Perhaps a race if this gets picked up?
twitch.tv/zerglinrush101

The games I can offer are Serious Sam HD: The first encounter (tourist) - EST 60:00. My current PB is 53:32 so I am overestimating to compensate for marathon luck.

Sc2 any% - EST 2:30:00 my PB on this is 2:01:12
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OrangePledge: 2013-08-20 10:39:22 am
OrangePledge: 2013-08-19 09:24:08 pm
My PB is 1:40:00, I literally picked up the game about 3 weeks ago. WR for no s+l is 1:23:00. I've also been finding some new strats and such.

Edit: I almost got it down to 1:35:00 last night Smiley
Stream: twitch.tv/carlsagan42

I'd like to offer a glitchfest% of Yoshi's Island as a donation incentive attached to Trihex's run. It will be reminiscent of a few of Romscout's glitch showoffs and will probably last 10-15 minutes max. Can PM a video to Mike if desired, though I'm purposefully not streaming some of the glitches as a surprise for Trihex Tongue Can either beat the game in this time or just spectacularly crash it.
Valkyrie, you should edit in the difficulty and whether it's SC2 WoL or HOTS. Because SC2 any% doesn't give much information.
B+Left, Left, Up+B, ★
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Zallard1:

Super Punch Out: Considering how optimized this game has become it's worth considering having it again.

Doc Louis: Maybe as a donation incentive?

Punch-Out Wii: Is that including Title Defense fights?

Star Fox 64: This technically wouldn't be a speedrun, but it's obvious this game has a lot of fans, and it's definitely worth considering this, adding it to the list.

Splatterhouse: I like this game, but I'm not entirely sold on it being great for a marathon. Arcade games haven't done great in the past, going with no.

I'm cool with Doc Louis's PO being a donation incentive considering its length. Also yes, that PO Wii estimate takes into account the Title Defense matches and the final 3 fights in Last Stand to reach the final credits sequence. Also understandable about Splatterhouse; just thought it would be worth a pitch considering it isn't super long or anything.
Highly Evolved
Mike, could you specify on second quest?
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just_defend: What's your PB? Josh has set the bar really high, and he crushed the CV games last year. I need to know you are serious about this game before considering putting it on the list.

Hi mikwuyma, my current PB for SCV4 is 38:32. Admittedly, that might not be impressive but I believe I can achieve atleast a sub 36 run for this game within a month. I agree that funkdoc did an amazing job with his run last year and I'm confident that I can be just as consistent at getting runs of that caliber. Understandably, I know I don't have a strong reputation but I am passionate about SCV4 speedruns. Thanks for the time.
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thadarkman78: 2013-08-19 10:50:12 pm
thadarkman78: 2013-08-19 10:50:02 pm
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Immafatguy: DuckTales Remastered is the game that's getting the attention, and I think that's the game we should focus on.


Just thought it would be cool to see the old and the new. Not even sure if I can make it out there just yet, just throwing the idea out.

Thanks


I'm assuming we're talking about the original Duck Tales so I am going to second this notion. Assuming the data thread regarding all the past games run at marathons is correct, the original Duck Tales hasn't been featured at an AGDQ yet, and was only featured at 1 SGDQ and 1 CGDQ. That seems pretty insane given the short nature of the run. I mean I feel like a lot of us have watched a Duck Tales run at some point by now; it's a great classic speed running game that is short and easy to understand. This is probably the last time that Duck Tales would legitimately be on anyone's radar aside from speed runners, so now is the perfect time to show case the differences between Remastered and the original. I would understand the hesitation for the game if it was a long one, but an 8 minute run is a sub par run of the game for the better speed runners of it. I think this is one of the few times where the original Duck Tales deserves a spot. Even perhaps as a bonus game we could slot in before or after Remastered would be pretty neat.

*edit*
My Mistake it seems Ducktales was featured at AGDQ11 and not an SGDQ, but I think my point still makes sense.
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Crash41596: 2013-08-20 12:15:29 am
Crash41596: 2013-08-20 12:12:49 am
Crash41596: 2013-08-20 12:09:13 am
Here's all the games I would like to run at the marathon.
My Twitch is http://www.twitch.tv/crash41596
1. Ape Escape 2 (PS2)
A. Any% ~1:20 - It's a really hard run, but is still marathon safe.
B. Ng+ ~1:10 - New game plus for this game is starting with all gadgets, and the use of water net on land, which allows more glitches than any% offers.

2. Spyro: A Hero's Tail (PS2)
A. Any% ~1:40 - This is pretty much an unknown game, in speedrunning that is. There are many glitches to keep people entertained, and cutscenes to read donations. This is not like the other spyro games just for the heads up.

3. Toystory 2 (PS1)
A. 100% ~1:20 - This is one of the better disney platformers. Much more watchable than most others out there, and people seem to like this game a lot.

4. Spyro 3: Year of the Dragon (PS1)
A. Any% Race ~ 1:10?.. - Want to join in on a race if there is one.

5. Gex 3: Deep Covered Gecko (PS1)
A. Any% ~1:20 - This game is pretty much unknown for running, and has a lot of cool tricks.
My feelings on The Demon Rush
Page 16 stuff:

Broman: Surgeon Simulator has co-op? Even better!

CTConquerer:

Mickey Mousecapade is a no, not really one of the well-remembered capcom disney games.

Super Mario World and SMB2: We're aiming for lengthier categories at these games

Surreal: Inform me whether your chances get better or worse.

Sly Cooper: I think any% is worth considering since a lot has happened since AGDQ 2011.

Spyro the Dragon: Maybe? I don't know how the first game stacks up to the other two

MMX: Yeah a lot has happened since you ran the game.

Ape Escape 3: Like I said the first one got a good response, so it might be worth considering this one, and I have no name said he'd defer to you.

Aladdin:

benstephens56: The version of oot everyone is familiar with is the n64 version, and I don't see OoT3D getting priority over it. Going with no.

Toufool31:

DKR: Got a great response at SGDQ, and 100% sounds like a natural evolution.

Super Mario Sunshine: but poo talk D:

Yeah I'll consider a race for this game.

Chrno: Disney Extreme Skate Adventure doesn't really look like an awful game, it just looks like a fun tony hawk spinoff. However, it might be worth adding this game as a bonus game because it's like Tony Hawk.

FalcoEagle: Even if your chances of going were good, we have so many strong Zelda offerings I don't think Minish Cap would stand much of a chance. Going with no.

Stivitybobo: Cool, what's a good estimate for any%?

George: Added 10 minutes to American Wasteland so thps3 can be a donation incentive.

Ubergoose: Not really, NTTE has some fans but not a lot.

ChocoPoptart: Looks like a fun game, but with all the F-Zero being offered, I think the game would be overhadowed.

newpants87:

DKC2: If by big race you mean 3 people max then yes it's possible, and I want all of their PBs to be close. So right now I'm just considering reflected and maybe.

Ecco: This might be worth considering with how broken it is. I'll put it up for now.

Jungle Book snes:

Otaku Gamer: With some of those examples you are mixing ESA and GDQs, they are not the same marathon, nor do they have the same goals. Also, many of those games have had consistently positive responses at marathons.

It looks like you have found a lot since the game was last run at a marathon, and it's worth considering for a future marathon. I just think it needs to take a break.

FFXIII vs. XIII-2: Yeah XIII-2 definitely has a better reception than the original, but at the same time, it's still still love/hate among FF fans. Garik also brings up a good point, which is important moreso for RPGs than other games because of how story-dependent RPGs are.

Wymorn: I'll consider Skyrim since it is a lot shorter than it used to be, but it'll need really strong commentary and a good donation incentive. No guarantees for second round.

Rudyxx: RE games in past marathons have had okay responses (aside from 4, which gets good response), and this is a more niche survival horror title. I don't see it being very successful.

Sloth:  I'll consider Fez. Adding it to the list.

Reed: I agree with Raelcun and garik16, and so far it's civil and under control, so I say let it stay for now.

firedragon764: I'll consider it, but this is a case of the best player getting the game, because the game lags a lot in 2-player mode and the more precise tricks might not work as well.
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Immafatguy: 2013-08-19 10:57:36 pm
Quote from thadarkman78:
Quote from Immafatguy:
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Immafatguy: DuckTales Remastered is the game that's getting the attention, and I think that's the game we should focus on.


Just thought it would be cool to see the old and the new. Not even sure if I can make it out there just yet, just throwing the idea out.

Thanks


I'm assuming we're talking about the original Duck Tales so I am going to second this notion. Assuming the data thread regarding all the past games run at marathons is correct, the original Duck Tales hasn't been featured at an AGDQ yet, and was only featured at 1 SGDQ and 1 CGDQ. That seems pretty insane given the short nature of the run. I mean I feel like a lot of us have watched a Duck Tales run at some point by now; it's a great classic speed running game that is short and easy to understand. This is probably the last time that Duck Tales would legitimately be on anyone's radar aside from speed runners, so now is the perfect time to show case the differences between Remastered and the original. I would understand the hesitation for the game if it was a long one, but an 8 minute run is a sub par run of the game for the better speed runners of it. I think this is one of the few times where the original Duck Tales deserves a spot. Even perhaps as a bonus game we could slot in before or after Remastered would be pretty neat.

*edit*
My Mistake it seems Ducktales was featured at AGDQ11 and not an SGDQ, but I think my point still makes sense.


Yeah, this is what my thinking is as well, this game isn't really being run anymore and now that the remastered version is out its going to take over the original NES version.
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Surreal: 2013-08-19 11:03:18 pm
dabes
I guess my MMX knowledge is a tad outdated, I understand.

As for spyro 1, it's a much different game and run than 2 or 3 when you look at the details. If you want a trick run, pick 2 or 3. If you want an optimization run, 1 is more focused on that, but all 3 have a lot of it.

You left Aladdin's feedback blank. lol
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gamercal: After some consideration and watching some of the Touhou runs, I think it's best that we actually go with the proper Touhou game, Double Spoiler, and see how reactions to that are. We've played some of the more well-known fan-games already so why not try out the real thing? In other words, no to your games.

If I end up unable to make it to the marathon, either of those runs would be a great addition to the schedule-despite having hardly played either game, both runs are incredibly entertaining.  Legend of Twilight is a more "wtf" kind of run, however, playing like LttP but with mindblowing skips, well, everywhere.

To make this not just a pointless "these games are awesome" post, with regards to Ape Escape 3 Surreal has a much better PB than me right now and is more consistent, but I'm confident come January I could pull off a great run if he is unable to make it.
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My stream: http://www.twitch.tv/hokorippoi

Mass Effect 2 (PC) - Casual Difficulty - Any% (with DLC) [Estimate: 2:30:00] (PB 2:05:25)- Less glitchy then ME1, but more buggy. ME1 was run at AGDQ2012. Does not have all the useful OOB's of ME1, but that just makes the game a nice clean Speedrun. If the game trolls me, who won't want to see suffering? (Game is Marathon safe.)

It is a PC game, so I added time to the Estimate for "PC fun".

Some donation incentives / categories that cost time:
W/O DLC: +10 mins (PB 2:13:20)
"No One Left Behind" Achievement - +30 mins
My feelings on The Demon Rush
Axel Ryman: Still not convinced on Legends, and I'm aware Koumajou is Touhouvania. Like I said earlier, I'd rather stick to the one main series Touhou we have.

Ryxos: You are correct, I overlooked your post, sorry!

Sticker Star: I don't see how paper mario is awful game. We had stronger Paper Mario offerings (including TTYD, which I rejected)

LADX: Well both Giuocob and tigger offered

bbweebwee:

Yoshi's Story: Already rejected and any% is a weaker category.

Gex 64: This is a decent platformer, but nothing really stellar and it's mostly forgotten now.

Chameleon Twist: Already rejected for being too obscure.

Kerahime:

DKC glitched: Yeah this could be in as a donation incentive.

DKC2: Yeah I'll leave this to the established racers.

Ducktales Remastered: I would like to leave it as is then because we have a ton of people offering already.

mitch13:

1. smb3 any% maybe as a donation incentive? I'd rather take 100% over warpless.

2. MM10 has been done in a ton of marathons and can take a break since

3. Metroid 100%: Dragondarch just did this at sgdq and honestly the original metroid is one of the weaker metroid entries.

Irregularjinny: No. If you can practice enough I'll consider you for the other X games but no guarantees.

Bostonbrew: Already rejected Luigi's Mansion 100%

Blood Thunder: Okay the people I've been asking also said the first game would be best for the tricks. It also helps that it cuts down some time choosing the first game.

Yeah Quantum Conundrum is definitely not like Portal but it looks like it has some cool speedrun tricks.

JKB: If this is a race, then at most I'd like 2 people racing it. I agree with UA, 3-person races shouldn't be done unless if there is a damn good reason.

splixel: Yeah Socket looks like a cool game, but not an awful game or quirky. Gonna have to reject.

Arrow: Katamari: Okay.

Garfield caught in the act: Yeah this game doesn't really qualify for AwfulGDQ.

SSBMstuff:

Ape Escape: already rejected.

Spyro the Dragon any%: Okay I'll keep you in mind.

Spyro 2: Already rejected in favor of 3.

Spyro 3: I'll ask toto about racing you.

Frogger: Maybe?

PiePusher11: Your forum name is already changed, thank shadowwraith.

Pikmin doesn't strike me as an especially great racing game, so I'd rather just have the best player run the game in this case.

Jungle Beat: Don't worry about it, I know this topic is crazy crowded.
I have to agree with thadarkman regarding DuckTales. One of my main reasons for offering it was to showcase some of the differences between the two runs. Also, if you were to reconsider putting DT1 on the schedule, I recently began learning DuckTales 2 and I'd be willing to run that to round out the DuckTales block.
My feelings on The Demon Rush
Page 18: Last post for tonight.

I have no name: Not changing my mind.

Gamesforcharity: Again, not changing my mind.

Vega4993:

1. Maximum Carnage: I know josh had some hype for this last year, but the big problem with this game is that toward the end you just end up abusing the assists. It's also not the most popular game, going with no.

2. Someone else offered this too, and I just don't feel like normal would be as good of a watch as Dante Must Die.

3. Spider-Man: I think this game got an okay response at SGDQ, but nothing that warrants running it again.

Time Crisis games: I don't really have a strong feeling on these, but I haven't seen light gun games get a great response at other marathons like ESA.

A_Cute_Lynx:  Alice in Wonderland does like kinda but, but not like AwfulGDQ material. Nothing truly hideous or quirky.

Galap: Even though this is Halo's daddy, most people don't remember that. I know the game has some shortcuts and the like, but I don't there's much of an audience for this game. No.

Azurinel: Eternal Daughter is a Derek Yu game right? Anyway, I don't think it's the strongest game that could be offered.

Frozensoda: No problem, looking forward to your stuff in the prizes thread.

Dragonballjoseph: ehhhhh, not entirely sold. The game is bad and kinda funny, and it's short. I guess I'll add it for now.

Tterraj42: As I said before, I don't feel the Battle Network games are as strong as the other Mega Man games (viewers and watchability), nor are they as strong as other rpgs (popularity and donation incentives).

Chucat: Well the other problem is that honestly the other Ghouls games we've had in marathons have had okay responses at best. Even PJ's run last year didn't get a great response or anything.

Pro_JN: I know you're the record holder in this game, but at the same time we've had a lot of Zelda 2 recently, and we also have a lot of Zelda 2 offered. I'll have to think about this one.
Only Offense Will Survive
Im in for Assignment Ada. I will practise this one before AGDQ so dont worry. Nintendo Wii will be my console for the main campaign and Assignment Ada.
1:45:00 estimate for the campaign and 00:08:00 for Assignment Ada. I guess its undecided if theenglishman or me will do that?
Heavy Metal Powered
Just wanted to point out that the grinding during Terranigma is not that bad and quite spread out, it's come a long way since the SDA run.
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Azurinel: Eternal Daughter is a Derek Yu game right? Anyway, I don't think it's the strongest game that could be offered.


Ya, it was designed by Derek Yu and Jon Perry. Mind explaining why you feel it's not up to par? Just curious, and knowing might help me convince you otherwise. Thanks.
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Fusion: I'd say it's a bit too soon for Fusion again. I think 1% should make a reappearance sometime, but not now.

What about OoT? Is it too soon for that?
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JKB: If this is a race, then at most I'd like 2 people racing it. I agree with UA, 3-person races shouldn't be done unless if there is a damn good reason.


Understood.  I may still try to make it there for commentary or for backup if blk can't make it.
I'm Incredibly Bunny
for the banjo tooie any%, I might want to specify that it's any% without cheats (the ones that you enter by code to like, unlock all levels and such), because with cheats, it becomes only movement, no cool tricks and glitches to show off.
Everybody's favorite monster
Legend of Elmo: Letter Adventure (N64) - low% [Estimate: 15 min] - Red Furry Monsters unite!
Legend of Elmo: Number Journey (N64) - low % [Estimate: 15 min] - Even better with numbers!