Twilight Princess (GCN)

2011-04-24 06:28:17 pm

Stand: Devil's Call in your Heart

you press the map (d-pad left) and the midna (z) buttons at the same time. it works if midna pops up and talks instead of warping when you select a warp destination.

Rygert

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Rygert: 2011-04-26 03:48:37 pm

2011-04-25 06:58:45 am

Quote from UchihaSasuke:

you press the map (d-pad left) and the midna (z) buttons at the same time. it works if midna pops up and talks instead of warping when you select a warp destination.

So it did! Thank you, good sir =)

Another question: If I take master sword early, I have to kill Morpheel without zora armor, right?

KingOfHeart

2011-04-27 09:02:15 am

I think someone found a way, but if so, can you please tell me step by step on how to do it.
I always thought if you get the MS early that it was impossible to get the zora armor.

Rygert

2011-04-27 09:47:04 am

Quote from KingOfHeart:

I think someone found a way, but if so, can you please tell me step by step on how to do it.
I always thought if you get the MS early that it was impossible to get the zora armor.

I bumped into a severe obstacle with not having the bow when taking zora's armor due to the pig on the bridge during the prince's rescue.

Paraxade

2011-04-27 09:59:11 am

Rygert

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Rygert: 2011-04-27 11:10:15 am

2011-04-27 10:43:02 am

Of course, such an elegant solution! Thx.

KingOfHeart

2011-04-29 07:12:13 am

Wow.
I swear someone tried bombs back then to.
I got to so try that soon.

Tp_Fox

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Tp_Fox: 2011-04-29 11:25:18 am

2011-04-29 11:17:21 am

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT WE CAN SKIP THE 2 LIGHT ORBS IN PALACE OF TWILIGHT:

How did no one find out about this? It was uploaded 3 years ago almost. I even tested this out and it does work, however I just realized that it doesn't matter because we still need the light sword to activate the platforms in the next couple of rooms. Sad

But still.

Manocheese

2011-04-29 12:04:20 pm

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

Since it only has 30 views after 3 years, I'm guessing the uploader never told anyone about it.

Tp_Fox

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Tp_Fox: 2011-04-29 12:07:44 pm

2011-04-29 12:07:15 pm

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Quote from Manocheese:

Since it only has 30 views after 3 years, I'm guessing the uploader never told anyone about it.

That's what I figured, but it's still useless considering we still need the light sword later. Sad

Still goes to show that there can be discoveries out there that we don't even know about.

KingOfHeart

2011-04-29 07:30:18 pm

I think I remember that we can skip it.
Unless if someone finds a way to not need it, or to trick the game in thinking we have the light, it's pointless.

If we can use the howl stones for map skipping, can we use something else like a chest?

wfp

2011-04-30 03:08:17 pm

i imagine it'd be a pain carting it around (and may take more time than it'd save), but could a light orb be used as an alternate to the light sword, thus incorporating this trick and necessitating only getting one orb?

KingOfHeart

2011-04-30 07:33:47 pm

Interesting idea.
I'll test with AR to see if you can even take it through other doors and light up any of those black orbs.
If it is possible, then hopefully someone can find a way to get it across that gap.

KingOfHeart

2011-05-02 04:58:00 pm

BTW does activating a map glitch with a howl stone have any advantages?
No one discovered another way to reach the ice dungeon without the regular map glitching, right?

Tp_Fox

2011-05-04 02:08:24 pm

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These last two segments are taking up more time than they should..

KingOfHeart

2011-05-04 09:26:43 pm

How fast can you beat the final Ganon?
Think you can do it in 12 sec?

Tp_Fox

2011-05-05 01:10:29 am

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Quote from KingOfHeart:

How fast can you beat the final Ganon?
Think you can do it in 12 sec?

Yeah I've done it a couple times, not too bad. And I got two segments done today. Only one more left. ( I added a save warp segment.)

KingOfHeart

2011-05-05 11:40:22 am

Interesting. So you discovered a new time saver by creating another new segment?
If so, please share so we can update the wiki.

Hello

2011-05-05 10:18:53 pm

He probably means that he just added a dummy segment from POT to Hyrule Castle.

Tp_Fox

2011-05-05 11:05:02 pm

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Quote from Hello:

He probably means that he just added a dummy segment from POT to Hyrule Castle.

No it's a timesaver. ABChimpas did it in his BiT speed run but I did it in a way that saves more time according to SDA timing. Chimpas skipped the Save after he beat Zant and then saved after he appeared back in PoT. However in my next segment, SDA doesn't start timing until I take control of Link so I completely skip the little cutscene that warps you into the temple and then I save, if I had done that the other segment, that time would have been accounted for in SDA timing, but not when you start a new segment.

Paraxade

2011-05-05 11:28:19 pm

I think they do count when a cutscene starts a segment, I recall being told that for example when you savewarp into the Temple of Time in OoT for the light arrows cutscene that will still get included in the timing.

TheVoid

2011-05-05 11:39:01 pm

Quote from Tp_Fox:

SDA doesn't start timing until I take control of Link

That only counts for the first segment, not in the other segments.

Tp_Fox

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Tp_Fox: 2011-05-06 12:21:45 am

2011-05-06 12:18:45 am

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Quote from TheVoid:

Quote from Tp_Fox:

SDA doesn't start timing until I take control of Link

That only counts for the first segment, not in the other segments.

Explain the magical 5 minutes or so that came off of Jiano's Wii segmented run then.

Quote from Paraxade:

I think they do count when a cutscene starts a segment, I recall being told that for example when you savewarp into the Temple of Time in OoT for the light arrows cutscene that will still get included in the timing.

Really? Just because I recall Runnerguy saying timing doesn't occur until he takes control of Link, but that's the first segment of the oot speed run. But I'm sure it's like that for other segments at least, or else a lot of runs wouldn't be a couple minutes faster than the in game clock.

UchihaSasuke

2011-05-06 10:23:51 am

Stand: Devil's Call in your Heart

that's a gray area but it was determined that timing starts after you open the file, regardless of cutscenes, in any segment that isn't the first one. that was brought up thanks to the light arrow cutscene since someone eliminated it from timing and the controversy began.

Tp_Fox

2011-05-06 11:03:58 am

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Quote from UchihaSasuke:

that's a gray area but it was determined that timing starts after you open the file, regardless of cutscenes, in any segment that isn't the first one. that was brought up thanks to the light arrow cutscene since someone eliminated it from timing and the controversy began.

But in the light arrow cutscene you are actually taking control(you have to press A for the texts) and this is just a 3 second warp cutscene where I can't do anything. Either way it still saves time doing this because I skip a Midna Prompt, but it doesn't save as much time if that's the case.