Tomb Raider : A survivor is born

2013-03-15 12:35:29 am

Also know as L0rdy

Btw, wouldnt be to big of a problem to have PC and console in the same race as long as PC runners dont use the elevator skip, or am I wrong?

brassmaster

2013-03-15 12:50:44 am

With mine and Pewable's time down to almost 2:30, I'm tempted to say yes, as long as no door clipping is done (i.e. elevator skip). I do think PC still has somewhat of an advantage, though. for now I would just say that as long as all runners in the race agree and maybe PC runners stream to confirm they dont use the clip it should be fine. maybe someone else has a better argument then me on this for either side.

ImRuKus

2013-03-15 06:40:21 am

Limbos Top F*cking Idiot

Im so depressed I left my Tomb Raider copy at college so I wont be able to stream any TR during the weekend Sad

Congrats to everyone getting sub 3 :D! I need to start playing again to get sub 3 haha.

Aphox

2013-03-15 08:04:01 am

Also know as L0rdy

No day is a complete day without finding new skips right? So here are todays skips:

This skip was pretty much inspired by Cryptic, because I think he mentioned to me once that it might be possible to skip the house so I had to test and found this, pretty easy and pretty early... pretty sure this is faster.

So here is another ~~easy~~ not so easy skip, sadly I wasnt able to test how much time this actually saved because I forgot to backup my save before recording this : P. Should easily save time imo, skips a fight and the annoying part where you have to fight against the wind and walk on a small ledge etc, as well as 3 enemys in the last room.

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-15 08:28:55 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Ahaha from the lower part are you for real? I was playing with the ledge above that. Shame it's only minor but still hell yeah Cheesy

Looks like it's a good thing I didn't just post a particular route then :3

In regards to the monastery skip, what is the not so easy part? The beginning? Just curious is all.

Aphox

2013-03-15 08:33:54 am

Also know as L0rdy

Well mostly the beginning yeah, you need a little knowledge on the way thats kinda it. Its not that big of a deal tbh but I wouldnt lable it "easy".

Pewable

2013-03-15 08:59:39 am

Wow L0rdy you rule. Try the first one yesterday but guess I was way to the let to do the jump. And the second, try it too but not from here... Did you see my door clip?

Aphox

2013-03-15 09:07:24 am

Also know as L0rdy

No I didnt, you should post it here! Have to check that out looks really helpful.

Pewable

2013-03-15 09:25:27 am

Also, I was able to empty the room before the one where you are helping Jonah etc. (the room where there are guys praying) ... I think you have to die once at the top of the climing part before it, then they will not be here anymore. I don't think it saves time though.

CrypticJacknife

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CrypticJacknife: 2013-03-15 02:25:19 pm

2013-03-15 02:20:30 pm

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Okay. 100%. Bunch of things of immediate note.

First of all, once you hit Mountain Village you are confronted with MANY items and areas that are sealed by rope doors and shotgun gates. Usually wouldn't be a problem, but remember this is 22 odd minutes into a run, so you definitely don't have the XP to get C.A to roll-clip.

As for the areas I've only routed a few (up to Base Exterior). Coastal Forest is the only footage at the moment because Mountain Temple would benefit greatly in its 100% route from that skip, unfortunately I have no idea how it works. The rest is still all being finalised.

Coastal Forest 100% Route (roughly 8 minutes RTA)

Now seems a suitable time to start pulling out Tomb Skips, so here you go.

Tomb of the Unworthy Skip (Located near Wolf Cave in Mountain Village)

brassmaster

2013-03-15 02:23:18 pm

TrUShade picked up the game, we could have a PS3 runner now, YAY!

TrUShade

2013-03-15 02:23:39 pm

The TrUest of Shades

Quote from brassmaster:

TrUShade picked up the game, we could have a PS3 runner now, YAY!

shush...asshole...

Pewable

2013-03-15 02:29:44 pm

Good luck with 100% Cryptic. Nice skip too.

Pewable

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2013-03-15 04:33:02 pm

Don't really know if it saves time or not because you have to reload to jump to the left, looks like it does anyways...

Our friend.

(We can see him with L0rdy's new skip though. There is blood if you fire at him errr.)

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-16 12:27:38 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

O hey Oni buddy. What you doin hangin under the corpse room bro? That can't be good for you

TrUShade

2013-03-16 12:43:16 am

The TrUest of Shades

Well going to make you guys a little bit happy,

Going to start doing a couple runs tomorrow and see what I can get time-wise.

PS3 player here too Cheesy

CrypticJacknife

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2013-03-16 07:30:24 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Figured as I am still going ahead to continue final routing, I'd post what I had for Mountain Temple. Also includes my own little nifty skip within the house (thanks thumbnail) although no large gap jump. Funnily enough L0rdy's skip saves 100% a little time then loses a lot because you have to get an alternate lantern which involves killing the two guys and going around the house they are near.

I know I'm the only one really intent on 100 right now, but just in general, do you think it would be more appreciated if I posted the multi-visit locations per visit, or put all visits together in one video? E.g Mountain Village w/Visit 1 (Initial), Visit 2 (Post-Base Exterior) and Visit 3 (Post Monastery Clean Up). Or would that just be too confusing for someone to learn with? Chronological or Locational? Let me know.

Aphox

2013-03-16 08:38:59 am

Also know as L0rdy

Found another small skip, this time in the geothermal caverns. Pretty funny that this works : P

Pewable

2013-03-16 08:45:25 am

Everything I tried but failed... works in the end ;-; ! Going to try it... Funny to let them still in cage. Nice L0rdy.

Oh and I can't do your house skip because when I am at the end of the ledge, if I do roll > jump, Lara will fall, I don't know if it will be pc only. I will wait if Brassmaster can do it or not. Even if I am not at the end of the ledge, if I do roll > jump, Lara wins a little more space between her and the ledge, but it fails.

So, nice skip in the house Cryptic, going to use it.

Aphox

2013-03-16 08:46:57 am

Also know as L0rdy

Pewable did you hold forward while trying do dodge then jump? Because if I do that I fall down too. You have to get yourself positioned right then dodge without holding a direction and then quickly hold forward and jump. Hope that helps and works for you!

Pewable

2013-03-16 08:57:15 am

Tried again but with no result. I tried while taking an arrow before walking at the end of the end (like I did in the Radio Tower) , but it doesn't work, maybe it will on hard I don't know.

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-16 09:02:18 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

First tests of MV Visit 1 wielded confusion. The second time through now I think I get the route well enough. First visit gets 2 Camps, 1 Document, 1 Relic, 4 GPS Caches, 1 Tomb (Tomb Skip above) and only one of the Egg Poacher targets. Zero progress on the Illumination challenge because there are none in the bee-line and I presume it will faster to do them when you have access to the Lighter (or Fire Arrows? I don't even know if they work).

Shame you come to MV again just before Monastery, or the third visit wouldn't be inevitable Sad

Pewable

2013-03-16 09:10:16 am

You can do the Illumination challenge with the fire arrows, however, you must be next to them or else the arrow will go through them...

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-16 09:17:17 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Oh good to know, guess that 3rd visit is now Post-Shanty Town. Even if I have to get right up in their face it's still faster than lighting the torch etc etc

brassmaster

2013-03-16 09:39:25 am

oh L0rdy.... you are too cool. I'll try that skip next weekend when I get back.

Pewable, I attempted that skip for about an hour with no luck, trying all sorts of different methods as well as trying to find a different route. It may be PC only Sad

Cryptic, I would say post chronological rather then location, it will make things easier to follow for someone learning the game. Like with what I did for LC GoL, I'll post a speedrun walkthrough for this game, starting with 100% since I want to wait a while for any%.