Tomb Raider : A survivor is born

2013-03-10 03:43:14 am

Limbos Top F*cking Idiot

Gunna do a TR run on stream, Still gunna try beat my PB but also try to do the Grim skip, which I guess now means ill press the split button when I get to the big old gate. Btw Cryptic if you or Lordy wanna skype me while doing it just add me o Skype, adamjones.46

http://www.twitch.tv/imrukus

Aphox

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Aphox: 2013-03-10 07:56:05 am

2013-03-10 07:55:17 am

Also know as L0rdy

Ok as promised I recorded the new skip today, enjoy!

Btw you can always buy the silenced pistol beforehand and it will be much safer : P.

CrypticJacknife

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CrypticJacknife: 2013-03-10 01:27:13 pm

2013-03-10 01:25:59 pm

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Okay wowow. Just did my run for the night (lol jk its 6am). Another PB, this time by 11 minutes. 2:37:53 Normal any% w/Jump Roll unlocked from start (apparently this is my own category >_>)

Multiple fuckups including getting killed twice trying to do the Bunker Skip, not even attempting the Base Exterior skip and other assorted bullshit. You know how this game is.

Splits are as follows! ^_^

Intro - 9:38
Coastal Forest - 15:35
Mountain Temple - 22:27
Mountain Village - 27:05
Mountain Base - 32:06
Base Exterior - 38:33
Roth - 42:28
Enter Chasm Monestary - 45:48
Chasm Monestary - 52:10
Enter Shanty Town - 56:00
Grim Skip - 1:02:43
Shanty Town - 1:11:00
Geothermal Caverns - 1:18:57
Whitman - 1:20:40
Sam - 1:27:19
Solarii Fortress - 1:30:28
Gondola Transport - 1:39:58
Shipwreck Beach - 1:45:54
Alex - 1:53:11
Cliffside Bunker - 1:56:56
Enter Research Base - 2:03:25 (lol bad)
Research Base - 2:09:00
Enter Stronghold Battle - 2:15:32
Done - 2:37:53 (still as shaky a split as ever)

Okay wowow. Just did my run for the night (lol jk its 6am). Another PB, this time by 11 minutes. [u][b]2:37:53[/b][/u] Normal any% w/Jump Roll unlocked from start (apparently this is my own category >_>)

Multiple fuckups including getting killed twice trying to do the Bunker Skip, not even attempting the Base Exterior skip and other assorted bullshit. You know how this game is.

Splits are as follows! ^_^
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Intro - 9:38
Coastal Forest - 15:35
Mountain Temple - 22:27
Mountain Village - 27:05
Mountain Base - 32:06
Base Exterior - 38:33
Roth - 42:28
Enter Chasm Monestary - 45:48
Chasm Monestary - 52:10
Enter Shanty Town - 56:00
Grim Skip - 1:02:43
Shanty Town - 1:11:00
Geothermal Caverns - 1:18:57
Whitman - 1:20:40
Sam - 1:27:19
Solarii Fortress - 1:30:28
Gondola Transport - 1:39:58
Shipwreck Beach - 1:45:54
Alex - 1:53:11
Cliffside Bunker - 1:56:56
Enter Research Base - 2:03:25 (lol bad)
Research Base - 2:09:00
Enter Stronghold Battle - 2:15:32
Done - 2:37:53 (still as shaky a split as ever)[/hidden]

brassmaster

2013-03-11 01:04:33 am

wow, some cool stuff has been found, I cant wait to see where this goes. I just completed my first playthrough then an impromptu race with Oozaroo. Our times were 3:44 and 3:59. No skips were used in the runs.

Aphox

2013-03-11 01:12:38 am

Also know as L0rdy

Damn, if I knew there was a race I would have joined ^^. If you guys going to race more let us know : P.
You can also message me on SRL IRC, nick: Aphox

brassmaster

2013-03-11 01:15:36 am

dunno if we will, but yeah ill try to remember to send you a message

ImRuKus

2013-03-11 04:25:07 am

Limbos Top F*cking Idiot

If ur racing post it up on here, Im keen for a race, except i wont be using skips most likely (sicne Im lazy to learn them) Btw L0rdy that skip vid is sick, Ill actually bother to learn that!

Quote from CrypticJacknife:

Okay wowow. Just did my run for the night (lol jk its 6am). Another PB, this time by 11 minutes. 2:37:53 Normal any% w/Jump Roll unlocked from start (apparently this is my own category >_>)

Awesome run Cyrptic, need to skype and do a run soon dude, Also does this mean Im not the only person who dosnt have jump roll at the start of the game? I wonder if its glitched, I genuinly though it was part of the games design, as lara does get quicker in getting up from jumping distances and pulling herself up much quicker end game then she does at the start. I thought it was kinda showing that shes much more confident (controlled rolling instead of a panicked scramble)

CrypticJacknife

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CrypticJacknife: 2013-03-11 04:45:44 am

CrypticJacknife: 2013-03-11 04:43:56 am

2013-03-11 04:41:02 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Quote:

Awesome run Cyrptic

Apparently not, I just got 2:27:45. HOW LONG, CAN YOU GO. HOW LOW! No but really it was a great run. Splits will be at the bottom of the post.

Quote:

Also does this mean Im not the only person who dosnt have jump roll at the start of the game? I wonder if its glitched, I genuinly though it was part of the games design, as lara does get quicker in getting up from jumping distances and pulling herself up much quicker end game then she does at the start. I thought it was kinda showing that shes much more confident (controlled rolling instead of a panicked scramble)

L0rdy also doesn't have jump roll at the start. At the moment we are debating whether it could be a glitch in my installation files, maybe something to do with 100% or even something related to Survival Edition DLC. Going to try and reinstall it and see if it fixes it.

SPLITS!

Intro - 9:48
Coastal Forest - 15:37
Mountain Temple - 22:31
Mountain Village - 26:49
Mountain Base - 31:47
Base Exterior - 38:43 (Still can't do the radio tower skip so that wasn't present Sad

)
Roth - 42:29
Enter Chasm Monestary - 45:24
Chasm Monestary - 51:20
Enter Shanty Town - 54:39
Grim Skip - 1:00:47
Shanty Town - 1:08:48 (Overall some pretty damn good fights)
Geothermal Caverns - 1:16:20
Whitman - 1:17:52 (Should probably get rid of this split lol)
Sam - 1:23:22
Solarii Fortress - 1:26:31
Gondola Transport - 1:36:05 (Again, much better fight than usual)
Shipwreck Beach - 1:41:40
Alex - 1:48:15
Fortified Bunker - 1:52:01
Enter Research Base - 1:57:27
Research Base - 2:02:42
Enter Stronghold Battle - 2:09:22 (Will probably adjust this split to be the end of the battle instead)
Done - 2:27:45

Next step for me is actually properly coming up with strats for late game fights. I've kind of been just running in head first and improvising up till now, and the final split definitely shows that.

[quote]Awesome run Cyrptic[/quote]

Apparently not,  I just got 2:27:45. HOW LONG, CAN YOU GO. HOW LOW! No but really it was a great run. Splits will be at the bottom of the post.

[quote]Also does this mean Im not the only person who dosnt have jump roll at the start of the game? I wonder if its glitched, I genuinly though it was part of the games design, as lara does get quicker in getting up from jumping distances and pulling herself up much quicker end game then she does at the start. I thought it was kinda showing that shes much more confident (controlled rolling instead of a panicked scramble)[/quote]

L0rdy also doesn't have jump roll at the start. At the moment we are debating whether it could be a glitch in my installation files, maybe something to do with 100% or even something related to Survival Edition DLC. Going to try and reinstall it and see if it fixes it.

SPLITS!
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Intro - 9:48
Coastal Forest - 15:37
Mountain Temple - 22:31
Mountain Village - 26:49
Mountain Base - 31:47
Base Exterior - 38:43 (Still can't do the radio tower skip so that wasn't present :( )
Roth - 42:29
Enter Chasm Monestary - 45:24
Chasm Monestary - 51:20
Enter Shanty Town - 54:39
Grim Skip - 1:00:47
Shanty Town - 1:08:48 (Overall some pretty damn good fights)
Geothermal Caverns - 1:16:20
Whitman - 1:17:52 (Should probably get rid of this split lol)
Sam - 1:23:22
Solarii Fortress - 1:26:31
Gondola Transport - 1:36:05 (Again, much better fight than usual)
Shipwreck Beach - 1:41:40
Alex - 1:48:15
Fortified Bunker - 1:52:01
Enter Research Base - 1:57:27
Research Base - 2:02:42
Enter Stronghold Battle - 2:09:22 (Will probably adjust this split to be the end of the battle instead)
Done - 2:27:45[/hidden]

Next step for me is actually properly coming up with strats for late game fights. I've kind of been just running in head first and improvising up till now, and the final split definitely shows that.

Aphox

2013-03-11 05:46:15 am

Also know as L0rdy

And another really cool and easy skip... not sure if that works on other doors. Just found it by chance ^^

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-11 05:47:29 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Serious? Is that just a roll jump roll to get through? No way is it that easy.

Aphox

2013-03-11 05:47:50 am

Also know as L0rdy

Yeah it is that easy : X

CrypticJacknife

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CrypticJacknife: 2013-03-11 06:26:46 am

2013-03-11 05:50:00 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Well damn haha. Guess that's another easy what...3 minutes or so saved?

Oh yeah, something I noticed. If you spam jump and roll when a walkie talkie conversation starts you can keep chaining them. The jumps will go practically nowhere, but the rolls will speed things up a little. An example is I managed to get to the large indoor room before the Shanty Town bridge while Roth was still talking to me. Will see how this could help.

Aphox

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Aphox: 2013-03-11 08:38:57 am

Aphox: 2013-03-11 08:16:51 am

Aphox: 2013-03-11 07:48:03 am

2013-03-11 07:47:31 am

Also know as L0rdy

Found a way to clip through an invisible wall after the elevator, currently trying around with skipping that fight over there.
~~However couldnt make it to the other side yet, maybe you guys wanna try as well I havent tested too much yet.~~

I try to explain exaclty what I do in this video. I walk infront of the 2nd barrel, turn my camera slowly while still holding forward until she starts running to the left. Then I jump and she will still use the jump ontop the barrel animation that way. If you did it right you clipped through however sometimes you have to jump afterwards to be able to really stay oob.

EDIT: Managed to actually get over to the other side : P trying to record now.
EDIT2: Removed the old video and posted a new one with the skip

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-11 09:55:31 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

2:24:36 Normal any% RTA with the Elevator skip Smiley

Interested to play around with this Research Base trick. I doubt it would save as much as the elevator, considering it's a short fight. But hey, any time saved is time saved. Looks like Ele skip saves ~2:10 Real Time.

brassmaster

2013-03-11 10:28:39 am

that time keeps trickling down... Cryptic, are you recording any of these runs? I'm interested in seeing what you are doing that's cutting off an hour and a half from my time (granted it was my second playthrough). Also, what skill points and weapon upgrades are you using in your runs?

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-11 10:51:02 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Haven't recorded any runs no. I'm not sure how my PC would react to FRAPS as well as this game.

As for the time trickling down, the mystery of me having jump roll earlier has been solved! Apparently there is quite a bunch of upgrade early DLC I wasn't even aware of. Included things like Climbers Agility and Silenced Pistol (shit idk). Good news though is I've purged my game of these apparently time-based DLCs and will continue runs without it. Shit just isn't fair, especially if people who didn't pre-order can't actually get the DLC. Surely I didn't gain too much time in the end, the runs are still flawed as hell in lots of parts. So I am happy I learned of this before my time became too optimal Smiley

That's THAT mystery solved B)

Well for skill point and upgrades, needless to say I'll have to add Climber's Agility to that as well haha. But the useful Tier 1 skills are fairly obvious. Arrow Retrieval -> Ammo Scavenging is undoubtedly the best way to start up. After that use the mildly useful ones like the Ammo Capacity upgrade, and the health upgrade. Outside of C.A on Tier 2, nothing is really that useful, apart from I mean I guess Counter Kill could be useful at some spots.

For upgrades to weapons, I always like to stick with faster firing rate and power for bow, as well as increased damage for Shotgun, and firing rate for that too if you can cut the salvage to get it.

Haven't recorded any runs no. I'm not sure how my PC would react to FRAPS as well as this game.

As for the time trickling down, the mystery of me having jump roll earlier has been solved! Apparently there is quite a bunch of upgrade early DLC I wasn't even aware of. Included things like Climbers Agility and Silenced Pistol (shit idk). Good news though is I've purged my game of these apparently time-based DLCs and will continue runs without it. Shit just isn't fair, especially if people who didn't pre-order can't actually get the DLC. Surely I didn't gain too much time in the end, the runs are still flawed as hell in lots of parts. So I am happy I learned of this before my time became too optimal :) That's THAT mystery solved B)

Well for skill point and upgrades, needless to say I'll have to add Climber's Agility to that as well haha. But the useful Tier 1 skills are fairly obvious. Arrow Retrieval -> Ammo Scavenging is undoubtedly the best way to start up. After that use the mildly useful ones like the Ammo Capacity upgrade, and the health upgrade. Outside of C.A on Tier 2, nothing is really that useful, apart from I mean I guess Counter Kill could be useful at some spots.

For upgrades to weapons, I always like to stick with faster firing rate and power for bow, as well as increased damage for Shotgun, and firing rate for that too if you can cut the salvage to get it.

Aphox

2013-03-11 11:11:51 am

Also know as L0rdy

Quote:

I'm interested in seeing what you are doing that's cutting off an hour and a half from my time

Most of it will be skipping fights tbh, you can kinda skip most of the fights in the game by just running past them, even on fights where you'd think you die are most often simple to pass.

brassmaster

2013-03-11 11:27:55 am

very interesting to the upgrade early DLC... i was unaware of it. I never explored what fights are required so that will help. cool thanks for the help guys

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-11 12:14:58 pm

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

A note you might want to take while checking reliability of fight skips is the fabled Fire Arrow/Dynamite. A few parts in the game will literally unfairly kill you if you try to skip some fights without killing everyone. Some times it can be avoided (like in the Bunker skip) but usually it's a lost cause if that happens.

ImRuKus

2013-03-11 01:27:00 pm

Limbos Top F*cking Idiot

Quote from brassmaster:

that time keeps trickling down... Cryptic, are you recording any of these runs? I'm interested in seeing what you are doing that's cutting off an hour and a half from my time (granted it was my second playthrough). Also, what skill points and weapon upgrades are you using in your runs?

I second this haha, I really gotta find out what fights you can and cant skip. So hurry up and skype me next time I run cryptic :P! i wanna take off 45 mins and start getting times like yours Tongue

im still stuck at trying to get sub 3:15:00 -___- Best ive done was 3:19:30 which is pitiful compared to your time!

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-11 11:45:03 pm

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

Haha sorry man ^_^ I would've already jotted down a list of fights to skip and where they are, but I got the impression from L0rdy that I'm the only one who actually knows the area names properly Tongue

I may do it for the hell of it anyway, make it easier for anyone way down the road to pick this up.

Aphox

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Aphox: 2013-03-12 05:49:19 am

Aphox: 2013-03-12 02:09:36 am

2013-03-12 02:08:59 am

Also know as L0rdy

@Cryptic I am planning to record a run in a bit and then upload/post as long as its not too crappy, so people can see exactly what we do.

Also since you always had so much trouble with the last area of the game... I thought I'd skip it so you dont have to worry about it so much ^^.

~~You have to exit to menu and load again btw else your game will freeze!~~

Seems like if you back up a little you dont actually have to reload the save.

brassmaster

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brassmaster: 2013-03-12 02:52:12 am

2013-03-12 02:36:37 am

Quote from L0rdy:

@Cryptic I am planning to record a run in a bit and then upload/post as long as its not too crappy, so people can see exactly what we do.

That would be greatly appreciated :). Also, I wonder if that is a PC only freeze... Next time I play the game I'll test that out on console. It looks like it isnt all that difficult.

Also Pewable has found a few things as well and posted it on his Youtube page

http://www.youtube.com/user/PewableShift

CrypticJacknife

2013-03-12 03:20:13 am

Ganondorf = Donkey Kong LOOK IT UP!!

L0rdy, have my babies.

ImRuKus

2013-03-12 04:44:33 pm

Limbos Top F*cking Idiot

Quote from L0rdy:

@Cryptic I am planning to record a run in a bit and then upload/post as long as its not too crappy, so people can see exactly what we do.

Also since you always had so much trouble with the last area of the game... I thought I'd skip it so you dont have to worry about it so much ^^.

~~You have to exit to menu and load again btw else your game will freeze!~~

Seems like if you back up a little you dont actually have to reload the save.

Annnnnnd now I have a Boner.