Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)

2007-11-21 04:12:00 am

Y'a donc ben des mongols

I've only watched some of his videos but... so far he didn't use any big shortcuts :S

and this:

so many mistakes just in the first three minutes XD

But I guess its good for the route? Like I said I haven't watched the whole video, so I wouldn't know if he found some stuff we didn't.

and I found something fairly interesting at gamefaqs. I don't know if it's true though.

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It was freaky how this happened, but I was playing Good Egg Galaxy, And when i jumped off the first planet (the one you start out on) to check out the gravity, he flew around for a bit then, like, landed on Dino Piranha out of nowhere. Then I fought him and the game froze. Odd how this is even possible

It would be very nice if 1- we found out how to do that, 2- the game didn't freeze 3- if it's even true XD

Mix

2007-11-21 05:39:04 am

I was just watching that video and he pulls off some good stuff, but I don't think it's a true single-segment run. Check out shenanigans in video 12.

Paraxade

2007-11-21 06:14:35 am

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It would be very nice if 1- we found out how to do that, 2- the game didn't freeze 3- if it's even true XD

I was playing around trying to reproduce it for a bit. From the part of the island that sticks way out you can see the dino piranha planet; my guess is (assuming it's true) he somehow broke free from the planet's gravity and got sucked into that one's. how exactly I have no idea... it would be nice if there was more information, aka where he jumped from, what kind of jump, etc.

shyo

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shyo: 2007-11-21 06:36:46 am

2007-11-21 06:33:04 am

uhh

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You mean after the comets appeared for the first time?

I think there are two ...well three things which are needed to make a random comet appear:

1st you have to "unlock" the comets, should be know, eh? :>

2nd you have to finish the "comets base mission", for example you have to finish the mole-boss mission before the risk-comet may appear

and 3rd (probably) you need a certain number of stars, because otherwise the comets would appear if you do the same mission some times, wouldn't they? e.g. you do the first three "base stars" of a galaxy and start over one of the missions to make the comet appear...but it won't.

I don't see any other way how we could manipulate this on a certain way instead of "luck manipulation" in segmented runs

2 aint true, atleast not quite. I was able to do the duel run in the ice world, but I didn't finish the regular star (I didn't even start it once)

edit: oh great, someone already mentioned this. theyre probably random

logitechSDAZ

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logitechSDAZ: 2007-11-21 08:12:34 am

2007-11-21 06:33:06 am

Is this speed trick old? I haven't seen it mentioned on SDA, but with live streams of SMG going from several people, I have no clue if this is a known speed trick or not. Anyway, this should save at least 10 seconds, probably more.

Dusty Dune Galaxy - Blasting Through the Sand speed trick

EDIT: Just got on top of the large white floating bone thing in Ghostly Galaxy - Beware of Bouldergeist. When you are running toward the house, it is the bone on the left side closest to the house. Long jumping to the launch star from the bone and skipping the house altogether doesn't seem possible though. The camera switches view erratically when you long jump from the bone toward the launch star platform. and there might be an invisible wall. When you get on top of the bone, it looks like you could easily make it to the platform with the launch star, but it doesn't seem to work. It is pretty pointless anyway though, because you can enter and leave the house in a matter of seconds. So, even if skipping the house was possible, the time saved would be only a few seconds at most.

Is this speed trick old?  I haven't seen it mentioned on SDA, but with live streams of SMG going from several people, I have no clue if this is a known speed trick or not.  Anyway, this should save at least 10 seconds, probably more.

Dusty Dune Galaxy - Blasting Through the Sand speed trick

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnd6ALpT7_E

EDIT: Just got on top of the large white floating bone thing in Ghostly Galaxy - Beware of Bouldergeist.   When you are running toward the house, it is the bone on the left side closest to the house.  Long jumping to the launch star from the bone and skipping the house altogether doesn't seem possible though.  The camera switches view erratically when you long jump from the bone toward the launch star platform.  and there might be an invisible wall.  When you get on top of the bone, it looks like you could easily make it to the platform with the launch star, but it doesn't seem to work.  It is pretty pointless anyway though, because you can enter and leave the house in a matter of seconds.  So, even if skipping the house was possible, the time saved would be only a few seconds at most.

Paraxade

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Paraxade: 2007-11-21 09:32:37 am

2007-11-21 08:37:37 am

logitech, great find in Ghostly Galaxy. I just started messing around with it trying to get that jump; turns out you can make it, but just barely. I've made the jump twice now and Luigi almost immediately fell off (not sure if it's possible with Mario though). I'll put up a vid if I manage to make it.

EDIT: made it, I'll upload a vid soon.

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logitechSDAZ

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logitechSDAZ: 2007-11-21 09:48:15 am

2007-11-21 09:39:10 am

Cool Paraxade Smiley

I'm wondering now if this saves any time. If you can do this without taking time to kill the enemies, then it might save a few seconds. But that would be hard to do. Also, it is harder to get on the bone with Mario. Long jump + spin is not enough height with Mario. You have to do long jump + spin + wall jump + spin. The only thing that makes it hard is that you have to be aligned evenly with the bone so that the wall jump is even possible. Also, I can't get the wall jump off of the curvature of the bone. It has to be on the straight part of the bone.

Jambo_Harv

2007-11-21 10:55:06 am

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I was just watching that video and he pulls off some good stuff, but I don't think it's a true single-segment run. Check out shenanigans in video 12.

FAKE!!! how can he open the luma stage have 13 star bits left, enter the stage get the star (looks to me like that star was already collect) and then exit the level with 679 star bits after collecting 0 . Things dont seem right here. the stars aren't right aswell.

RoyJoy

2007-11-21 03:51:45 pm

New trick! (sort of.)

After the spin-cancel I played around and found something else.

Stomp Jump (Need a new name.)

Basically after reading about the homing ground pound (which I had accidentally performed before) I played around with it. Basically how it works is you jump, spin in the air, and during your spin hit Z. You'll do a slow start-up ground pound that homes into a nearby enemy.

The Stomp Jump: Note that you need an NPC like a Toad to use. Get next to them, position yourself slightly off to the side of your target, and perform a homing ground pound while holding your control stick in the direction you will move. To make a long story short, you will aim at the NPC, shoot down at them, and bounce off with a LOT of force if done well and go very far.

I haven't tested locations where this can be used for applications of this at all, so that's left for later or for someone else, but this can be done on any NPC and possibly an enemy (I haven't tried it yet). This usually goes much farther than a long jump, and you can spin at the end for extra distance.

New trick! (sort of.)

After the spin-cancel I played around and found something else.

[b]Stomp Jump[/b]  (Need a new name.)

Basically after reading about the homing ground pound (which I had accidentally performed before) I played around with it. Basically how it works is you jump, spin in the air, and during your spin hit Z. You'll do a slow start-up ground pound that homes into a nearby enemy.

The Stomp Jump: Note that you need an NPC like a Toad to use. Get next to them, position yourself slightly off to the side of your target, and perform a homing ground pound while holding your control stick in the direction you will move. To make a long story short, you will aim at the NPC, shoot down at them, and bounce off with a LOT of force if done well and go very far.

I haven't tested locations where this can be used for applications of this at all, so that's left for later or for someone else, but this can be done on any NPC and possibly an enemy (I haven't tried it yet). This usually goes much farther than a long jump, and you can spin at the end for extra distance.

freefang

2007-11-21 04:58:36 pm

8((.)7(.))3

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New trick! (sort of.)

After the spin-cancel I played around and found something else.

Stomp Jump (Need a new name.)

Basically after reading about the homing ground pound (which I had accidentally performed before) I played around with it. Basically how it works is you jump, spin in the air, and during your spin hit Z. You'll do a slow start-up ground pound that homes into a nearby enemy.

The Stomp Jump: Note that you need an NPC like a Toad to use. Get next to them, position yourself slightly off to the side of your target, and perform a homing ground pound while holding your control stick in the direction you will move. To make a long story short, you will aim at the NPC, shoot down at them, and bounce off with a LOT of force if done well and go very far.

I haven't tested locations where this can be used for applications of this at all, so that's left for later or for someone else, but this can be done on any NPC and possibly an enemy (I haven't tried it yet). This usually goes much farther than a long jump, and you can spin at the end for extra distance.

Not new, but at least it has a name and you explained it better. Cheesy

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I think I found a trick that could be usefull.
It basically consists of making a spin in the air and use the but stomp while the spin animation isn't done yet, if done correctly mario will end up on the ground but instead of hitting the ground with his butt he uses his feet and put his hands in the air.
The funny thing is that when you use it on an enemy and mario is not right above him there is a chance he will be pulled towards the enemy (Some kind of homing attak). So far not realy that usefull. Tongue

BUT if you use it on a npc so mario uses the homing kind, he will bounce off, but sometimes the distance it gives you is MORE then a longjump+spin! (And after you bounce off you can use the spin, so even further.) Doesn't that makes this trick the longest jump mario can do?
I have not yet found a good use for it, but I'm shure someone will. Grin

[quote]New trick! (sort of.)

After the spin-cancel I played around and found something else.

[b]Stomp Jump[/b]  (Need a new name.)

Basically after reading about the homing ground pound (which I had accidentally performed before) I played around with it. Basically how it works is you jump, spin in the air, and during your spin hit Z. You'll do a slow start-up ground pound that homes into a nearby enemy.

The Stomp Jump: Note that you need an NPC like a Toad to use. Get next to them, position yourself slightly off to the side of your target, and perform a homing ground pound while holding your control stick in the direction you will move. To make a long story short, you will aim at the NPC, shoot down at them, and bounce off with a LOT of force if done well and go very far.

I haven't tested locations where this can be used for applications of this at all, so that's left for later or for someone else, but this can be done on any NPC and possibly an enemy (I haven't tried it yet). This usually goes much farther than a long jump, and you can spin at the end for extra distance.[/quote]
Not new, but at least it has a name and you explained it better. :D
[quote]I think I found a trick that could be usefull.
It basically consists of making a spin in the air and use the but stomp while the spin animation isn't done yet, if done correctly mario will end up on the ground but instead of hitting the ground with his butt he uses his feet and put his hands in the air.
The funny thing is that when you use it on an enemy and mario is not right above him there is a chance he will be pulled towards the enemy (Some kind of homing attak). So far not realy that usefull. :P
BUT if you use it on a npc so mario uses the homing kind, he will bounce off, but sometimes the distance it gives you is MORE then a longjump+spin! (And after you bounce off you can use the spin, so even further.) Doesn't that makes this trick the longest jump mario can do?
I have not yet found a good use for it, but I'm shure someone will. ;D[/quote]

C_Ice

2007-11-21 09:49:15 pm

probably known:

If you fight shadow mario and the countdown goes down to 2, press the Z button to crouch, if the timer goes down to zero then press the A button to get a boost, while being "yellow" :>

mwl

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mwl: 2007-11-21 10:36:09 pm

2007-11-21 10:25:36 pm

I've watched most of MOKURENN's videos.

It's a good start for a run, and certainly gets increasingly better towards the end. Yes, some of the stars he chose were perhaps questionable time-wise, and there were some inconsistencies in the star bit totals (suggesting video manipulation), but it's still a great reference for us. The time up to the collection of the final Grand Star was 4 hours, 8 minutes, and some 45 seconds, so we now know that a sub-4 hour SS is definitely doable.

While many of the shortcuts posted here weren't used in the run (which is understandable since he probably worked by himself to produce it), many were, such as the ones in Toy Time and Freezeflame. I haven't seen anyone mention the shortcut to the ice donut's star launcher in Freezeflame - "Hot and Cold Collide." Hopefully, there are other speed tricks in those videos that we haven't found and can use later.

logitechSDAZ

2007-11-22 12:40:19 am

The way I do this is obviously not a speed trick. However, if you can manage to long jump on the sea wall the entire time without falling, it might be a speed trick.

Sea Slide Galaxy - Underwater Cosmic Mario Race trick

Arrow

2007-11-22 02:05:45 am

Now a hit show on the CW

Long jumping the whole way wouldn't be too difficult, using the trick where you hold Z after you land for a split second to change your direction while crouching before jumping again. But I don't know that it would be faster than just swimming. You pick up some decent speed using spins, and then of course the shell and rings.

Ouranos

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Ouranos: 2007-11-22 02:08:09 am

2007-11-22 02:07:57 am

Y'a donc ben des mongols

In king kaliente's battle fleet (the first one), you posted a video of getting hit by a fireball to cross the gap.

I found out you can just long jump on the bridge, wall jump and spin to either the left or right (well, right is faster) and "switch place" with the cannon shooter by killing him.

That way you don't have to kill both, or wait for a fireball to come.

I made a video, but I don't think I'll need to upload it, as it's fairly simple Smiley

Tp_Fox

2007-11-22 03:42:04 am

Q(O_o)Q

Good Egg Galaxy timesaver
Buoy Base Timesaver
Rolling Gizmo Galaxy speed run

The timesavers are pretty obvious but I didn't see a video of them and I found them so I uploaded them.

Paraxade

2007-11-22 04:51:00 am

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Good Egg Galaxy timesaver
Buoy Base Timesaver
Rolling Gizmo Galaxy speed run

The timesavers are pretty obvious but I didn't see a video of them and I found them so I uploaded them.

First one is old and has been posted at least twice, and that speed run has a lot of little mistakes and you didn't use any of the tricks found in that stage.

logitechSDAZ

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logitechSDAZ: 2007-11-22 07:53:44 am

2007-11-22 07:53:13 am

I'm sure this is known now even though I haven't seen it posted here. In "The Silver Stars of Sea Slide", you can get all 5 silver stars without ever transforming into Bee Mario. Compared to the other stars, the most difficult star to get without using Bee Mario is the one on top of a tree surrounded by spiders. It is still fairly easy to do though. I did a poor job of getting it to it though. It might be the only silver star that is faster to get with Bee Mario. The other silver stars can be obtained quickly without transforming into Bee Mario. Here's a vid anyway even though this is most likely known.

RoyJoy

2007-11-22 04:33:25 pm

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Not new, but at least it has a name and you explained it better. Cheesy

No no no, I'm not explaining the homing stomp, that was just mentioned because you have to be able to perform it in able to do the trick.

I'm well aware the homing stomp was already posted. =]

My trick was the very long jump you can achieve using the homing stomp in a specific way. I just took a while to explain the actual stomp first.

freefang

2007-11-22 05:11:10 pm

8((.)7(.))3

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No no no, I'm not explaining the homing stomp, that was just mentioned because you have to be able to perform it in able to do the trick.

I'm well aware the homing stomp was already posted. =]

My trick was the very long jump you can achieve using the homing stomp in a specific way. I just took a while to explain the actual stomp first.

I also talked about that in the 2nd last sentence om my post I quoted.
Wink

But it doesn't realy matter who got it first, so lets find some uses for it! Cheesy

(To bad I'm out of battery's for my wiimote -_-" )

Tp_Fox

2007-11-22 07:20:42 pm

Q(O_o)Q

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First one is old and has been posted at least twice, and that speed run has a lot of little mistakes and you didn't use any of the tricks found in that stage.

I didn't see it so my bad. I found a lot more but they were already posted. And I didn't know that stage had tricks, I guess it's just a run through without any major tricks. I haven't seen much since I got the game like 2 days ago.

mwl

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mwl: 2007-11-23 01:51:41 am

2007-11-23 01:25:55 am

In "Dreadnought's Colossal Cannons," you can skip over the first set of flipswitch panels by backflipping over the laser beams. The game only checks that the second set is activated when unlocking the star launcher.

Ouranos

2007-11-23 03:33:22 am

Y'a donc ben des mongols

In gold leaf: cosmic mario race, I found a nice trick using some hot wall-jumping action. I hope this wasn't found already :S

I've been very busy with school/work so I haven't had the time to check all the new videos.

I don't know how much faster this "route" is. My estimate is about 10 seconds. Better than nothing Wink

The race lasts about 20 seconds, with maybe 2 seconds worth of mistakes?

Arrow

2007-11-23 05:34:03 am

Now a hit show on the CW

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In gold leaf: cosmic mario race, I found a nice trick using some hot wall-jumping action. I hope this wasn't found already :S

I've been very busy with school/work so I haven't had the time to check all the new videos.

I don't know how much faster this "route" is. My estimate is about 10 seconds. Better than nothing Wink

The race lasts about 20 seconds, with maybe 2 seconds worth of mistakes?

Damn, it works on When it Rains, it Pours too... but it's a lot harder to pull off because the camera refuses to cooperate. So much for my flying from the top of the tree method :-/ Also, it looks like you still have to get the Bee suit to scale the rest of the fort. You can make it up to the platform with the spring without it, but it seems to be impossible to get from there to the one with the vine without it (I've gotten pretty close by backflip-wall jumping from the railing by the spring, but no dice).

logitechSDAZ

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logitechSDAZ: 2007-11-23 08:22:20 am

2007-11-23 08:22:12 am

Toy Time Galaxy "Heavy Metal Mecha-Bowser" speed trick. This should save at least 15 seconds.