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mikwuyma: 2011-06-27 11:30:05 pm
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mikwuyma: 2011-06-27 09:31:45 pm
My feelings on The Demon Rush
I know Essentia is hosting this marathon, but she said it was okay if I made the rules thread.

First and foremost, if you are attending the marathon, there is a $25 charge that will go towards internet, food, and the grand prize 3DS with OOT 3D. You can pay Essentia at her Paypal address, which is fouressentia and it's a yahoo.com address. You can probably pay her by check too, but I don't know her address.

I would say 25 dollars is more than a reasonable price to pay for 3 or 4 nights stay + food


General

-First and foremost, Essentia is letting you stay at her house. Please respect her house, keep it clean and respect her rules (and Denton's). It's very nice of Essentia and Denton to offer their house in the first place, so try to make sure they're willing to offer it a second time. The house rules will be covered in the second post.

-DON'T LITTER! This seems incredibly obvious, but AGDQ proved otherwise. After you eat, put your food in the trash, and your dishes wherever Essentia wants them (if they're not paper). Treat Essentia's home like your own and throw away your stuff in a trash can or a recycling bin, not on the floor.

--For the sake of everyone else, shower regularly*. Also, make sure you pack enough clean clothes for the marathon. Having 2 or 3 fresh pairs of clothes shouldn't be a challenge.

-If you're really bad about showering, then the Emptyeye clause will kick in:  "If Essentia/Denton/Romscout decide you smell, they have the right to Febreze you; if you refuse, they have the right to tell you to get out and don't come back until you take a damn shower."

Games

-I am putting romscout in charge of last-minute decisions and approving games/challenge/prizes. He proved himself organizing JRDQ, and he said he's coming to SGDQ.

-Do not try to add or remove games without Mike or Rom's permission. We are running on a schedule, and it is best we follow it.

-Be prepared! Don't bother asking if it's okay to gather your stuff and get things ready for the next game, you were already given permission when your run was put on the schedule. Make sure you are ready with game and controller in hand at least 5 minutes before your game is up. If you're not sure when your game is up, then ask someone.

-Challenges are generally permitted, but only if they're requested by someone in the chat. If a challenge is going to make us go over the allotted time in the schedule by 5+ minutes, then ask Mike (I'll be in the stream chat) or Romscout about it.

-Bidding wars should end when the game is powered on, unless if the bidding war is during something in the middle of the game.

-The Carcarian rule: Once the game is running. DON'T TOUCH ANY OF THE WIRES OR CONSOLES. There is a good chance you could screw something up. If a long run is going to start, then make sure you've moved all of your stuff out of the console/computer area beforehand. We're just lucky Yoshi Island auto-saves, and only a switcher was hit during Chrono Trigger, but much worse can happen.

-The Halo rule: This was a rule at CGDQ, but I didn't mention it for AGDQ because I didn't think it was a problem. It goes without saying that I was wrong. If your run is bad, it will be mercy killed. There is no objective way of determining whether a run is bad, but the only one that really deserved to be mercy killed was Halo (this is throughout all 3 marathons BTW). It was less of a speedrun and more of a fight for survival, there were numerous mistakes, and Cody said he hadn't practiced the game in 2 years. So there's your guideline. If people are unsure, Romscout has the final say on mercy-killing.


Commentary

-Our stream is pg-13. You can occasionally swear, but don't do an f-bomb rant, only a few comedians can pull them off well (and trust me, you're not one of them), and you might burn Essentia's ears. Lips Sealed

-Commentary order is: Runner, then anyone on the commentary couch if they're talking about the game, commentator guy on the computer, then everyone else. If the commentary is less serious, then really just the commentator guy on the laptop gets priority when he's reading off donations and such.

-Commentary couch is just that, for people who commentate. If you're not going to commentate, then DON'T BE ON THE COUCH. You might get kicked off the couch if you're not commentating.

-Laptop warriors get lowest priority on the camera. You might be doing a good job of tracking the chat using a laptop, but you're not doing a good job of paying attention to anything else.

-The chat is not a teleprompter. Do not say everything that is mentioned in the chat. Not only is it impossible to do, your commentary will be poor as a result.

-On a similar note, in-game text is not a script. Not every line on screen needs to be spoken out loud. However, it's okay to do on occasion, if it's a really good or fun line.

-Do not plan surprises. Surprises are only surprising if they surprise everyone. Planning a surprise annoys people and comes off as contrived. The one exception is prizes. Grin

-Do not speak ill of the charity, even if you don't agree with what they do 100%. Organization for Autism Research is a good charity and have gone out of their way to support us (they made a paypal account like PCF); I'd like to return the favor.

-You also shouldn't put down other sites and charity groups, it's petty and makes us look bad.

-The same thing goes for forum members. If you have a beef with someone, keep it off-stream.

-Respect Serious Time. It shouldn't happen often, but there are going to be moments when people need to focus, and if they want everyone to be quiet, then BE QUIET. (commentators mentioning donation comments can go on as normal).

-On the other hand, don't be the little boy who cried serious time. If you start yelling serious time every five minutes, then no one will respect it (nor should they).

-If you're responding to someone in the chat - particularly if it's for something important like donations or prizes - please mention who actually made the comment. Saying "someone says" doesn't really sound charming.

-No responding to anyone whose name starts with "J" and ends with "H10". Tongue This will be pretty obvious to most people not to feed troll behavior in general, but if we have a few known trolls then just flat out ignoring them is the best way to handle them.

-If you break the above rules too often or disrupt the commentary too much, Romscout will pull you from commentary at his discretion. Or maybe someone will if I keep on complaining in the chat. Tongue

-Most importantly, have fun! One of the reasons why the last marathon was so great is because the atmosphere was casual, and we all relaxed and had fun. Don't worry too much and it will be good. Smiley

*with soap
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Edit history:
Essentia: 2011-08-02 06:27:08 pm
mikwuyma: 2011-06-27 09:05:14 pm
Everything's better with Magitek
House Rules:

-No alcohol in the house.

-No smoking in the house.  If you have to smoke, please go outside and clean up after yourself.

-Try not to swear in the house; my kids will be here part of the time, and I'd prefer for them not to hear that kind of language.

-If you can, bring your own bedding (blanket/sleeping bag, pillow).  I don't have enough for everyone.

-Upstairs is where most people will be sleeping, so please be quiet when up there.

-Parking: You can park on the street in front of our house or in the driveway as long as you don't block anyone in (including our cars in the garage).  We also just found out we'll have some overflow parking; there's a church just down the road from us (seriously about a two-minute walk), and you're allowed to park there as long as you don't sleep in your car or smoke in the parking lot.

-Food: Most food in the house will be fair game for anyone to eat (we'll label anything that isn't).  You're allowed to use the kitchen to cook, but please clean up after yourself.  If you leave any of your own food in the fridge, please label it.

-We have a recycling barrel where you can throw your paper and plastic.

-When you shower, keep your towel to use the next time.  I barely have enough towels for everyone to have one, and we won't be able to do laundry during the marathon because it can be heard on stream.

-When outside, please be respectful of our neighbors.  We want to still be friends with them after this marathon. Smiley
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-DON'T LITTER! This seems incredibly obvious, but AGDQ proved otherwise. ...Treat Essentia's home like your own

Maybe some people did... :s
Talk to the Hand
Quote from mikwuyma:
-If you're really bad about showering, then the Emptyeye clause will kick in:  "If Essentia/Denton/Romscout decide you smell, they have the right to Febreze you; if you refuse, they have the right to tell you to get out and don't come back until you take a damn shower."


I love how this is now "The Emptyeye Clause" on SDA, even though I've stated more than once that I didn't come up with it. A slightly nicer version of this clause appears on page 2 of the MAGFest 5 4 program book, which I looked at just before typing this. Cheesy

(Also, so we're clear: I'm pretty sure I showered at least once every day at AGDQ at any rate. It's "The Emptyeye Clause" because Mike erroneously thinks it was my idea.)
My feelings on The Demon Rush
It's still the Emptyeye clause to me. Tongue

I added a couple of things to the games and commentary part.
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PJ: 2011-06-27 10:20:08 pm
Is PJ
I know after AGDQ, UraniumAnchor and some other main people who were taking care of the syncing were mentioning that we should implement something to make it easier in the future.  I don't recall what the options were, but I think something as simple as just audibly counting down to pressing start on the title screen or something would go a long way towards syncing the commentary and game footage afterwards.  It might be a good idea to think of some pre-game "ritual" now so the syncing is easier for everybody afterwards.
Fucking Weeaboo
You forgot the most important rule of all, Mike.

- HAVE FUN!  Because if it looks like this is a chore, then it ruins the delight of doing it.
My feelings on The Demon Rush
Someone forgot to look at the bottom of the post. Tongue
Fucking Weeaboo
Thus you have too many rules, mike. Tongue

After all, my attention span is...ooh look a butterfly!
SDA Represent!
I respect Mike's guideline because it involves keeping tidy, being responsible, and having respect for other around you. It's really not that difficult to follow.
Moo! Flap! Hug!
Quote from mikwuyma:
For the sake of everyone else, shower regularly*.

*with soap

Aw, crud.  Does this rule apply to viewers too? Sad

PS: That fine print really shouldn't be fine print...
Fucking Weeaboo
Quote from Poxnor:
Quote from mikwuyma:
For the sake of everyone else, shower regularly*.

*with soap

Aw, crud.  Does this rule apply to viewers too? Sad

PS: That fine print really shouldn't be fine print...


Yes.  Also, it applies to your money before you donate it as well. Tongue
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Mecha Richter: 2011-06-28 12:19:52 am
Haters gonna hate
It worries me that you have/had to remind/force people to shower.
Moo! Flap! Hug!
Quote from Sir VG:
Yes.  Also, it applies to your money before you donate it as well. Tongue

I think I'm being told to launder my money Sad  I'm telling on you, Sir VG *sniffle*
Fucking Weeaboo
Quote from Mecha Richter:
It worries me that you have/had to remind/force people to shower.


Yeah, Mike nearly had to invoke it once at AGDQ.  I know some people have issues due to being around a bunch of strangers, but we all have to remember...we're not exactly strangers. ^^;;

Quote from Poxnor:
Quote from Sir VG:
Yes.  Also, it applies to your money before you donate it as well. Tongue

I think I'm being told to launder my money Sad  I'm telling on you, Sir VG *sniffle*


Awww, poor baby. *pat pat*
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Darkwing Duck: 2011-06-28 03:04:16 am
Highly Evolved
Should the $25 apply to people not staying at her house? 

I could also charge $25 to Essentia for bor...renting my games.  :p

I couldn't dream of messing up Essentia's house.  It's too damn nice.  Humongous kitchen.




Also, I'll mention it here since most participants should be looking at this thread.  I've suggested this in other threads, and since a lot of people are coming in Wednesday, I would recommend a Korean restaurant that night since no one will be running and it'd give people a chance to mingle.  It's about 15 miles north of Essentia's house.  I kept hearing on stream or read in chat during AGDQ about people going to Korean BBQ, and while this isn't BBQ, it's still really good food (though you can order galbi (갈비) which is the BBQ ribs.  The restaurant closes at 7 local time, so that unfortunately would cut out Nitrodon, but I believe Wednesday evening would be the best time for the most people.
Not a walrus
Quote from Sir VG:
Quote from Mecha Richter:
It worries me that you have/had to remind/force people to shower.


Yeah, Mike nearly had to invoke it once at AGDQ.  I know some people have issues due to being around a bunch of strangers, but we all have to remember...we're not exactly strangers. ^^;;


Essentia, do you have a garden hose?
Professional Second Banana
Quote from Darkwing Duck:
Also, I'll mention it here since most participants should be looking at this thread.  I've suggested this in other threads, and since a lot of people are coming in Wednesday, I would recommend a Korean restaurant that night since no one will be running and it'd give people a chance to mingle.  It's about 15 miles north of Essentia's house.  I kept hearing on stream or read in chat during AGDQ about people going to Korean BBQ, and while this isn't BBQ, it's still really good food (though you can order galbi (갈비) which is the BBQ ribs.  The restaurant closes at 7 local time, so that unfortunately would cut out Nitrodon, but I believe Wednesday evening would be the best time for the most people.

Sounds good to me - my one and only rule for eating out when traveling is to eat at places that I don't have back home.
The Speedrunning Teacher
Quote from Darkwing Duck:
Should the $25 apply to people not staying at her house?

Good question. If anything, the people who aren't staying at Essentia's place should still pay $10-15 to help cover the cost of Internet and food. But I'll leave that up to Mike or Romscout to decide on how that will work.

Also, I'm assuming that the $25 is per person? So since I'm bringing my fiancee with me, I'll pay double?

Korean, eh? Sounds fun.
My feelings on The Demon Rush
I'll have to ask Essentia, but people who aren't staying should still pay something because of food, internet, and the prize 3DS.
Everything's better with Magitek
I would ask everyone coming to pay the $25, just so we can be sure to cover the internet upgrade and the 3DS.  If anyone is not able to pay the $25 for whatever reason, please send me a PM.
No pain, no gain
I live at Essentia's house. Do I get to make my own rules / get out of paying the $25? Cheesy
Highly Evolved
Yay!  No house rules.  Go crazy everyone!  Go crazy!


Tongue


On the weather front, looking like it will be fairly cool for this time of year.  Only in the upper 80's, lower 90's.  This is monsoonal season, so there's always the chance of an afternoon thunderstorm, but it's not looking likely.
Quote from Darkwing Duck:
Yay!  No house rules.  Go crazy everyone!  Go crazy!


Tongue

That means no rule against putting bananas in your ears and getting and a HQ picture. Smiley
Everything's better with Magitek
Yeah, I'm good at procrastinating. Tongue  The house rules are now in the second post - please read them!