Shovel Knight

2014-07-16 07:26:11 pm

Gets the cake.

You're all welcome to run whatever category you want to run, and I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with it. Just know that your "no overworld RNG%" runs aren't going to be taken seriously by anyone except other "no overworld RNG%" runners. Also I can circlejerk on Twitter all I want, that's literally what social media is for. I'm sorry that it offends you that I voice my opinions on a social media platform.

Duke Bilgewater

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Duke Bilgewater: 2014-07-16 07:29:15 pm

Duke Bilgewater: 2014-07-16 07:29:12 pm

2014-07-16 07:26:47 pm

Man up and deal with the parts of the run that you don't find palatable, or run another game without random elements.

Garrison

2014-07-16 07:26:55 pm

I too am mad at people having fun

z1mb0bw4y

2014-07-16 07:28:10 pm

Gets the cake.

Quote from Garrison:

I too am mad at people having fun

Quote from z1mb0bw4y:

You're all welcome to run whatever category you want to run, and I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with it.

Wawlconut

2014-07-16 07:28:25 pm

No overworld RNG is the equivalent of emulators.

Wawlconut

2014-07-16 07:30:01 pm

Quote from Duke Bilgewater:

No cheat codes. Man up and deal with the parts of the run that you don't find palatable, or run another game without random elements.

You're right. Let's ban resetting to title from overworld RNG and give the RNG in this game actual meaning besides turning it into a menu simulator.

UraniumAnchor

2014-07-16 07:30:26 pm

Not a walrus

Stop the argument, run what you like, but SDA won't accept a run with that cheat code active, that's all you really need to know.

People are welcome to post their times in this thread with that code active and you're welcome to ignore them if you don't think it's a legit category.

CptBrian

UraniumAnchor

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2014-07-16 07:31:16 pm

Relax

I digress.

(Low%) Propeller Knight quick kill in boss rush is much faster if you do short jumps and attack spam while he's on the ground. It works a little bit in Flying Machine but doesn't make the kill much faster, and is much riskier due to falling. No recording for this.

UraniumAnchor

2014-07-16 07:43:06 pm

Not a walrus

Maybe I wasn't clear enough the first time:

Stop arguing over whether or not the code is a "legit" category, it's completely immaterial to this thread and there's no rule against posting about runs that we wouldn't accept on the site. The discussion has degraded into shit-slinging and strawmen so I want it to stop.

Post runs, post strats, do NOT post any more semantic arguments about the cheat code. You guys have made it clear for the last five pages that the discussion is going nowhere and it's derailing this thread to the point of stupidity.

Copilot

2014-07-16 07:57:13 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

Listen to this guy ^

You guys seriously aren't even arguing anymore, just stop. If people want to play with the cheat code, go do it, but this discussion has gone to a level equal to stupid. Just stop guys.

CptBrian

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CptBrian: 2014-07-16 09:42:51 pm

2014-07-16 09:10:08 pm

Relax

That's exactly what he just said.

Low% Plague Knight in 10 seconds: http://www.twitch.tv/cptbrian/c/4679776

RamblingJosh

2014-07-16 09:26:51 pm

Many words! Handle it!

Jesus, my Plague Knight is still such trash

Copilot

2014-07-16 09:47:30 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

For real. I need to learn to do Plague Knight quickly still, I still fumble around with it for a long time

Copilot

2014-07-17 01:17:56 am

Ruling the cosmos!

Alright, totally finished the tutorial videos, so y'all can go check those out.

Shadow the Past

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Shadow the Past: 2014-07-18 06:45:36 am

2014-07-17 07:43:37 pm

So I'm having issues streaming with the livesplit plugin. When I use the Livesplit plugin in OBS, it causes my game to severely lag, whereas using it manually outside OBS causes no problems, but OBS won't Window capture it this way. Wasn't sure if there was a quick remedy to this.
Edit: So turns out the images I uploaded next to the splits are causing the input lag. The images were pretty massive so I scaled them down, which lowered the lag, but I still had random spikes. Seems the only real remedy is to have no images, sadly lol.

I'll also be streaming at http://www.twitch.tv/shadowthepast this weekend most likely, assuming I'm able to get everything working properly lol.

CptBrian

2014-07-18 11:48:51 am

Relax

New split icon pack with 76 icons, totaling 307KB.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6r5qtcfn38en28h/ShovelKnightIcons.zip (You may run into an issue without Adblock, just press the green download button and it starts immediately.)
I made them all low res and low file size to reduce potential lag while still trying to maintain quality. Split programs such as LiveSplit will automatically upscale them if they need to. (Their upscale methods may not be sharp)

Brettatron

2014-07-18 02:25:28 pm

Any advice for specific things to focus on or think about while learning this game to speedrun? I just started and have got the first 3 stages down. I am god awful at the boss fights though.

Thank you Copilot for those tutorial vids. Very informative and helpful.

RawKitZero

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RawKitZero: 2014-07-19 02:13:43 pm

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2014-07-19 02:12:30 pm

Hey guys, just wanted to show you my progress on Low%. Currently, I've done the first five stages and I'm slowly, but surely, working my way through each level and I think I'm doing pretty well. I'm doing this on PC so there seems to be some subtle differences with other people's runs, but overall I'm proud of what I've done.

Check it out and tell me what you think. Tips are always welcome.

Grinpill

2014-07-19 03:52:41 pm

How do I jump?

A couple of things I was curious about:
-On blocks you bounce on to destroy, I saw you could cancel the bounce with a slash. Is one of the big blocks enough space for you to pass through? If so, wouldn't it be faster to break one, then cancel the bounce and walk through?
-When you have to destroy multiple blocks horizontally, even in the short tunnels, would it be possibly to jump and slash so your forward momentum doesn't stop, or does landing while slashing not end the air attack animation?

CptBrian

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2014-07-22 03:27:02 am

Relax

My Plains: http://www.twitch.tv/cptbrian/c/4717660
Update: http://www.hitbox.tv/video/191303 Better this time. (alt:
hitbox VOD playback is doing weird things to the framerate.

duckfist

MURPHAGATOR!

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2014-07-23 09:54:27 am

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Quote from Grinpill:

A couple of things I was curious about:
-On blocks you bounce on to destroy, I saw you could cancel the bounce with a slash. Is one of the big blocks enough space for you to pass through? If so, wouldn't it be faster to break one, then cancel the bounce and walk through?
-When you have to destroy multiple blocks horizontally, even in the short tunnels, would it be possibly to jump and slash so your forward momentum doesn't stop, or does landing while slashing not end the air attack animation?

Slashing while in the bouncing state will not change your vertical speed - it only removes the bouncing state without having to land on the ground first. Mainly useful if you need to bounce on a block and not the one beneath it, such as in the first room of Pridemoor Keep (it sounds like this is what you're referring to and yes that's the faster method - I can't watch the video atm)

And you're almost correct about jump cancelling. The moment you attack you're forced to stand still for like a half second if standing on the ground. The attack doesn't deal damage until several frames after the button press. If you start the attack in midair and land on the ground, you'll still stop briefly if you land before that stop period elapsed, and still deal damage at the usual animation frame. However, if you start the attack on the ground, jumping will interrupt the attack completely - you deal no damage if you jump too early. So, it is wise to get the proper timing down for when to jump cancel. The fastest way to move through a horizontal tunnel of blocks is to jump before attacking, and jump the moment you hit the ground again to avoid the dead frames. Basically just alternate pressing jump and slash.
The mechanics are reminiscent of Ninja Gaiden.

[img][/img][quote="Grinpill"]A couple of things I was curious about:
-On blocks you bounce on to destroy, I saw you could cancel the bounce with a slash. Is one of the big blocks enough space for you to pass through? If so, wouldn't it be faster to break one, then cancel the bounce and walk through?
-When you have to destroy multiple blocks horizontally, even in the short tunnels, would it be possibly to jump and slash so your forward momentum doesn't stop, or does landing while slashing not end the air attack animation?[/quote]
Slashing while in the bouncing state will not change your vertical speed - it only removes the bouncing state without having to land on the ground first.  Mainly useful if you need to bounce on a block and not the one beneath it, such as in the first room of Pridemoor Keep (it sounds like this is what you're referring to and yes that's the faster method - I can't watch the video atm)

And you're almost correct about jump cancelling.  The moment you  attack  you're forced to stand still for like a half second if standing on the ground.  The attack doesn't deal damage until several frames after the button press.  If you start the attack in midair and land on the ground, you'll still stop briefly if you land  before that stop period elapsed, and still deal damage  at the usual animation frame.  However, if you start the attack on the ground, jumping will interrupt the attack completely - you deal no damage if you jump too early.  So, it is wise to get the proper timing down for when to jump cancel.   The fastest way to move through a horizontal tunnel of blocks is to jump before attacking, and jump the moment you hit the ground again to avoid the dead frames.  Basically just alternate pressing jump and slash.
The mechanics are reminiscent of Ninja Gaiden.

Copilot

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2014-07-23 04:05:41 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

So, this is a bit early, we've got a couple weeks for this, but since the date is out, I might as well ask. Is anyone planning to submit this game for AGDQ? Not trying to push, make people feel like we should have this game there, but I'm just curious of if anyone plans to be doing that.

barinelg

2014-07-23 07:55:29 pm

I trip over my own feet in game.

I thought about it but haven't had time to practice, but I can consider commentating for someone.

Decaffeinated

2014-07-24 06:12:39 pm

I was thinking about it. Either low% or any%. Depending on which i'm feeling more comfortable with.

Ivanthemoderate

2014-07-24 09:45:04 pm

Just started practicing low% today and man its super tough but fun! What is all included in it?