Shovel Knight

Copilot

2014-06-27 08:10:12 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

You only get a couple hundred at a time from that, it's not worth it at all

Copilot

2014-06-27 08:14:09 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

Propeller Knight. Pretty garbage fight, but that's basically my strat. I don't get anchor because there's just not enough money for it. Also, if you did use anchor on him when he goes in the air, you'd put yourself in an un-optimal posistion when he comes back down. Big goal of the fight is to not die in the holes.

Also, I forgot to record my Treasure Knight fight, so I'll get that in later.

Copilot

2014-06-27 08:33:46 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

I don't know why I even bothered uploading this. Tinker Knight fight everybody.

Also, I love how Plague Knight is the hardest stage in the game, Mole Knight and Treasure Knight are an amount of challenge, but then Tinker and Propellor Knight are some of the easiest stages.

Pikapals

2014-06-27 08:36:46 pm

I don't know, I feel like the anchor speeds up both propellor knight fights a lot, but it's true it doesn't seem to have any other uses. What items are you getting in your route?

Projekt

2014-06-27 08:43:15 pm

I'm not very good at running these levels consistently

Copilot

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Copilot: 2014-06-27 08:51:40 pm

2014-06-27 08:50:49 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

I'm getting (in order) Flare Wand, Dust Knuckles, 3 health and magic upgrades, Flying Dagger, and Mobile Gear, though I am having doubts about the dust knuckles, it might not save as much time as it wastes, and it costs money, which is hard to come by.

Also, Polar Knight fight (these stages are so easy, dude)

Copilot

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Copilot: 2014-06-27 11:12:58 pm

Copilot: 2014-06-27 11:12:33 pm

Copilot: 2014-06-27 09:28:59 pm

2014-06-27 09:27:21 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

Black Knight 3 quick kill. Hard stuff. You can actually kill him before he even drops the meteors, but I can't figure out how to do that. I consistently have him at 4 orbs when he gets wings, but he had two at that point one time, I don't know how. But if he does drop the meteors, you need to make sure you're on top of him, or you're boned, so watch out for his pogo, because that's the only shot you'll get.

Edit: Whoa, are my videos always that poop quality? I know a lot of them weren't.

Edit 2: Re-upload for less poop quality.

luigimeister

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luigimeister: 2014-06-27 09:49:03 pm

luigimeister: 2014-06-27 09:31:55 pm

2014-06-27 09:31:32 pm

Likes SoM far too much

2nd autoscroller skip in Mole Knight. As far as I know NG+ only.

Copilot

2014-06-27 09:58:49 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

Yes it's NG+ only, but you can skip the second half with Dust Knuckles

Copilot

2014-06-27 10:17:42 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

And Enchantress 2. The strat as previously discussed, though it's hard to pull off since you can't see yourself.

Copilot

2014-06-27 10:46:26 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

Treasure Knight fight because I forgot it earlier.

luigimeister

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luigimeister: 2014-06-28 12:38:54 am

luigimeister: 2014-06-27 11:23:37 pm

2014-06-27 11:22:12 pm

Likes SoM far too much

Faster Enchantress 2 quick kill. It could've been 25 or so seconds but I'm bad and its late.

edit: lol outdated, dust gloves too stronk

Laqr

2014-06-27 11:27:29 pm

Otherwise known as Sake__

Because it was giving some people trouble, here's a video of the quick kill for the Plague Knight Miniboss I developed.

Copilot

2014-06-27 11:34:11 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

I've actually found a way that's quicker than that. Basically, since the yeti phase gets stunned when you hit him, if you jump and mash fast enough in front of of him, you can kill his when he's about halfway across the room. I like the human phase part of it though.

Copilot

2014-06-27 11:35:46 pm

Ruling the cosmos!

Enchantress 1 Fight. Pretty garbage, honestly. If I could change something, I would save more magic for when she comes up the second time, but I don't think that matters much because I think when she goes down is based on her health.

VidyaGamez

2014-06-27 11:48:44 pm

I just beat this game today, and I would love to speedrun it. I'm a bit new to the speedrunning scene (I speedrun Hotline Miami, but haven't uploaded any vids of it or anything), but would love to collaborate and help build the run.

luigimeister

2014-06-27 11:49:22 pm

Likes SoM far too much

Come to SRL IRC #shovelknight. We're brainstorming in there and posting results in thread

JHit

2014-06-28 12:00:26 am

New Enchantress 2 quick kill I came up with using the Mole Claws

Probably could have gotten the last hit needed but still pretty quick

Laqr

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Laqr: 2014-06-28 12:38:22 am

2014-06-28 12:35:39 am

Otherwise known as Sake__

Quote from Copilot:

I've actually found a way that's quicker than that. Basically, since the yeti phase gets stunned when you hit him, if you jump and mash fast enough in front of of him, you can kill his when he's about halfway across the room. I like the human phase part of it though.

Here's the updated version. Might be able to get some more hits in during the transition (pogos?).

Anthony356

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Anthony356: 2014-06-28 01:50:14 am

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Anthony356: 2014-06-28 01:23:47 am

2014-06-28 01:23:12 am

Again not sure if it's been talked about, i wont have time to really read through the posts in this thread until tomorrow. i want to grind out my ng+ and all that tonight while watching sgdq. On this screen would it be possible to pogo off the beetle then get a damage boost off the green projectile to get onto the platform? it might save a second or 2 if it's possible and can be pulled off consistently. I'm way too tired to be able to do it now but i think you can. (Edit, it's not shown in this picture but there's a beetle on the middle platorm)

Edit 2: I FUCKING GOT IT. I definitely think it saves time, but it's a little tricky to pull off here's the link to the video.

Mr. K

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Mr. K: 2014-06-28 01:42:27 am

2014-06-28 01:34:28 am

Yes

As far as categories for this game goes, Shovel Knight tracks both item completion rate and in-game time.

100 % Item completion in-game requires:
-Collect all meal tickets and redeem them
-Collect all Magic Upgrades
-Collect all shovel blade upgrades
-Purchase all armors
-Collect all song scrolls*
*You don't have to turn all of the song scrolls in, but you do have to turn at least 1 in. The game automatically says you've collected the first 5 sheets in the list of songs in your totals and awards it to your item completion rate after you turn in your first sheet(s).

I'm working on how each item contributes to the %. Each song scroll seems to contribute slightly more than 1% (but not 2%) and some rounding is being done there.

Edit: Regarding low %, the absolute minimum item completion rate to complete the game with is 1%. Either your default armor/shovel blade counts.

An important decision for us will be whether or not to use the in-game timer for timing runs and I think that will hinge on whether or not the timer proves to be accurate enough for our purposes. I'm going to try and start doing some work on researching that tomorrow. I'll also be getting our KB page for Shovel Knight up to speed with everything that's been posted so far in the thread.

Edit: As far as the IGT is concerned, I guess what I'd ask is that you hold off on making a decision until I finish up with doing some research. The reason I ask is because I'm testing some IGT optimizations that may reduce some of the time loss from the randomness of the wandering traveler enemies.

As far as categories for this game goes, Shovel Knight tracks both item completion rate and in-game time.

100 % Item completion in-game requires:
-Collect all meal tickets and redeem them
-Collect all Magic Upgrades
-Collect all shovel blade upgrades
-Purchase all armors
-Collect all song scrolls*
*You don't have to turn all of the song scrolls in, but you do have to turn at least 1 in.  The game automatically says you've collected the first 5 sheets in the list of songs in your totals and awards it to your item completion rate after you turn in your first sheet(s).

I'm working on how each item contributes to the %.  Each song scroll seems to contribute slightly more than 1% (but not 2%) and some rounding is being done there.

Edit: Regarding low %, the absolute minimum item completion rate to complete the game with is 1%.  Either your default armor/shovel blade counts.

An important decision for us will be whether or not to use the in-game timer for timing runs and I think that will hinge on whether or not the timer proves to be accurate enough for our purposes.  I'm going to try and start doing some work on researching that tomorrow. I'll also be getting our KB page for Shovel Knight up to speed with everything that's been posted so far in the thread.

Edit: As far as the IGT is concerned, I guess what I'd ask is that you hold off on making a decision until I finish up with doing some research.  The reason I ask is because I'm testing some IGT optimizations that may reduce some of the time loss from the randomness of the wandering traveler enemies.

luigimeister

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luigimeister: 2014-06-28 01:38:46 am

2014-06-28 01:38:04 am

Likes SoM far too much

Thanks Mr. K. The consensus in the irc we've been routing in has been Real Time so far. IGT is a little wonky, and there's no real reason not to use real time since loading times are universal in all versions according to the devs.

Edit: Also IGT would be awkward for NG+ b/c it just adds time to your original file.

Jaguar King

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Jaguar King: 2014-06-28 02:53:58 am

2014-06-28 02:52:20 am

I just slept for 6 hours and you guys accomplished a lot, great job guys

i just started routing for Clocktower stage, looks like the flying dagger is a must here

edit: just stupid question, where can you find the flying dagger on the Flying Machine stage?

Anthony356

2014-06-28 02:57:41 am

@jaguar i don't have a screenshot but that room where there's the electric jellyfish and you have to pogo across them 1 at a time because they cycle which one isn't electrified, you have to drop down from the top of the ladder in that room and go straight to the right in the room under it. there's a small opening next to the air currents that you normally can't get through. do some platforming and have 4k gold and you've got it.

luigimeister

2014-06-28 03:42:25 am

Likes SoM far too much

We've got a simple route now jaguar. Very simple and a little unrefined.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zRSkXpt0e-hBqJmFedBJeEkDVjZgvLA7zgTgDVDSR58/edit#gid=0