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redsthename: 2014-04-15 11:12:37 pm
aka CheesyPoofs
New skip on Vorselon's Warship should save about 3 minutes. This glitch works on all the sliding doors so It could be used later on in the game and has more glitching potential.

Finally found this elusive skip.



Nice find. You said it works on all sliding doors, could it possibly work on the big door in Zolar? And you need I have something to jump off right?
aka CheesyPoofs
It only works on the sliding doors in Vorselon's warship. There is a similar glitch in the nefarious space station but there's nothing that comes of it.
I tried that glitch, and it seems like I am going to need to practice it A LOT. It is really hard -.-
aka CheesyPoofs
Recorded a 1:27:48 GT from a derust run. Being in the start menu doesn't add up your time because I took a 20 minute break halfway for food. Made roughly 2-3 minutes worth of mistakes mainly coming new strats on the Nefarious Space Station causing the Buzz Blades to be under leveled. Have to kill more of the Agorians during the hydra battle to make sure they are V5.

Also a small weapon bug that can be used with any weapon that resembles the bomb glove throw animation (Tesla Spikes, Clank time bomb, Groovitron glove, etc)
1. Hit R1 with weapon out.
2. Wait for animation.
3. When the projectile would normally be thrown out quickly take out the Hypershot or Omnisoaker.
This stores the projectile for when you next use the weapon bypassing the throw delay for the next projectile.

This is good for fights like Vorselon and War Grok
I'm planning on starting to run this game pretty soon. Thanks for putting up so much information in a handy spot for me to find.
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Recorded a 1:27:48 GT from a derust run. Being in the start menu doesn't add up your time because I took a 20 minute break halfway for food. Made roughly 2-3 minutes worth of mistakes mainly coming new strats on the Nefarious Space Station causing the Buzz Blades to be under leveled. Have to kill more of the Agorians during the hydra battle to make sure they are V5.

Also a small weapon bug that can be used with any weapon that resembles the bomb glove throw animation (Tesla Spikes, Clank time bomb, Groovitron glove, etc)
1. Hit R1 with weapon out.
2. Wait for animation.
3. When the projectile would normally be thrown out quickly take out the Hypershot or Omnisoaker.
This stores the projectile for when you next use the weapon bypassing the throw delay for the next projectile.

This is good for fights like Vorselon and War Grok

also do you have a video of this
I'm glad someone else is getting into this game. Obviously there is plenty of time to be saved still. Also I'm sure many more smaller time saves will be found in the future. I'm out of school for a couple months now so I should have some time to dedicate to this again.
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redsthename: 2014-08-02 11:34:58 pm
aka CheesyPoofs
New skip using a glitch that allows you to go outside of space boundaries. It saves you from having to get any more than the 3 zoni required to beat Zolar Forest.


It's very weird to perform but this is the best way I can explain it.
When the boundaries on your left hold the left stick up and to the right at around 110 degrees and hold the right stick fully to the left.
When the boundaries to your right hold the left stick down and to the left at around 280 degrees and hold the right stick fully to the right.
Once out if you move the right stick slightly to far out of position you will get ported back to the closest inbound area.
I rougly estimate it would save around 5-7 minutes at least.

New Zoni Route:
Zolar Forest (3 required)
Molonoth Fields (5)
Axiom City (6)

The reasoning behind getting 6 is the spaceship thruster upgrade which significantly increases space travel speed and the extra Zoni take very little time to get.

I also tried leaving Molonoth Fields as soon as you get the hover boots but once you beat Axiom City the next sector won't load until you go back and finish Molonoth hover boot training.
That is an absolutely insane find. Ill try it in a few minutes here. does this mean that the run could get close to 1:15 GT?
So I tried it, and it works, but what do you mean by "move the right stick slightly to far out of position" the only way i got it to put me back inbounds was to do a u turn. maybe boosters would work too, i was using a save file right before molonoth fields. 
aka CheesyPoofs
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So I tried it, and it works, but what do you mean by "move the right stick slightly to far out of position" the only way i got it to put me back inbounds was to do a u turn. maybe boosters would work too, i was using a save file right before molonoth fields. 

When your out of bounds and face your ship anywhere towards deep space it will just port you back in.
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Lombax999: 2014-11-06 07:20:44 am
Hey, I've been learning to run this game recently, and I was wondering if the Ratchet and Clank leaderboards are still being updated. I submitted a couple of my PBs recently and they haven't shown up yet.

Edit: Ignore this I'm stupid
Good to see someone else picking this game up. I havent been able to get a single decent run yet, so thats why im not on the leaderboards, but i will be soon. Also, I was watching your run on the leaderboards a bit, and couldn't help but notice a couple of things.
1) were you playing on a higher difficulty? the standard is to play on casual simply because its faster
2) you didn't use the vorselon fight skip. Is there a reason for this or did you just not know it existed? im legitimately curious

all in all though, i hope you continue with this as i feel this is a very fun game to speedrun, especially because you don't have to go through the clank sections.
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Good to see someone else picking this game up. I havent been able to get a single decent run yet, so thats why im not on the leaderboards, but i will be soon. Also, I was watching your run on the leaderboards a bit, and couldn't help but notice a couple of things.
1) were you playing on a higher difficulty? the standard is to play on casual simply because its faster
2) you didn't use the vorselon fight skip. Is there a reason for this or did you just not know it existed? im legitimately curious

all in all though, i hope you continue with this as i feel this is a very fun game to speedrun, especially because you don't have to go through the clank sections.


1) I'm playing on casual. Out of curiosity, what makes it look like I'm not?
2) I'm not aware of this skip. How does it work?

I'm definitely gonna continue playing this game. My pb is very bad and I'm nowhere near satisfied with it.
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Lombax999: 2014-12-07 06:15:34 am
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Lombax999: 2014-11-19 01:38:43 pm
Edit: nvm
Damnit man! Now I'm curious what you said.
I'm not sure if anyone still checks this forum, but I have some concerns about the route I'm currently using that I'm not sure if anyone has addressed yet. Let me give you some context first. In a run I was doing yesterday I accidentally pulled out a Mr Zurkon in Gimlick Valley, which stole a bunch of exp from my Buzz Blades. They ended up only being level 3 for both Nefarious and Azimuth. Surprisingly, this actually didn't end up making a difference at all for the Azimuth fight. However, the Nefarious fight was a lot slower, as expected. I ended up running out of buzz blade ammo during the last phase, so I started attacking him with shrapnel bombs, and they did a surprising amount of damage to him. This made me question a few things:

1. How fast would the Azimuth and Nefarious fights be if you used shrapnel bombs instead of buzz blades for the entire fight? I'm not sure if anyone has tested this, but I imagine that if you took advantage of the weapon storage glitch that red mentioned (the one where you switch to the omnisoaker/swingshot after throwing a bomb), these fights could actually be pretty fast without buzz blades.

2. How much time in the current route is wasted by collecting bolts to buy the buzz blades? 48,000 is a lot of bolts, and even though you can get a good amount of them with little to no time wasted, you definitely have to go out of your way for some of them. (I've actually been having bolt issues recently since I started doing the Vorselon 2 fight skip. This may be unrelated though, as I'm not sure how many bolts you miss out on by skipping that stuff.)

3. Is there a feasible way to fight Commander Argos (Gimlick Valley boss) without buzz blades? This fight actually seems like the one that most necessitates having buzz blades, though again I haven't tested this.

What I'm ultimately getting at is whether or not a route that didn't buy buzz blades would be feasible or not. A few notes about why this doesn't seem so crazy to me:

-Shrapnel bombs and the negotiator can get you through space station on their own
-A high level negotiator might be enough for the Argos fight (untested)
-Shrapnel bombs + high level negotiator + Zurkon seem like enough for the Nefarious/Azimuth fights (untested)
-All extraneous bolt collection is eliminated

If anyone has any feedback about this let me know. I'm particularly interested in how well the shrapnel bombs + negotiator work for the 3 bosses I mentioned.
aka CheesyPoofs
Quote from Lombax999:
I'm not sure if anyone still checks this forum, but I have some concerns about the route I'm currently using that I'm not sure if anyone has addressed yet. Let me give you some context first. In a run I was doing yesterday I accidentally pulled out a Mr Zurkon in Gimlick Valley, which stole a bunch of exp from my Buzz Blades. They ended up only being level 3 for both Nefarious and Azimuth. Surprisingly, this actually didn't end up making a difference at all for the Azimuth fight. However, the Nefarious fight was a lot slower, as expected. I ended up running out of buzz blade ammo during the last phase, so I started attacking him with shrapnel bombs, and they did a surprising amount of damage to him. This made me question a few things:

1. How fast would the Azimuth and Nefarious fights be if you used shrapnel bombs instead of buzz blades for the entire fight? I'm not sure if anyone has tested this, but I imagine that if you took advantage of the weapon storage glitch that red mentioned (the one where you switch to the omnisoaker/swingshot after throwing a bomb), these fights could actually be pretty fast without buzz blades.

2. How much time in the current route is wasted by collecting bolts to buy the buzz blades? 48,000 is a lot of bolts, and even though you can get a good amount of them with little to no time wasted, you definitely have to go out of your way for some of them. (I've actually been having bolt issues recently since I started doing the Vorselon 2 fight skip. This may be unrelated though, as I'm not sure how many bolts you miss out on by skipping that stuff.)

3. Is there a feasible way to fight Commander Argos (Gimlick Valley boss) without buzz blades? This fight actually seems like the one that most necessitates having buzz blades, though again I haven't tested this.

What I'm ultimately getting at is whether or not a route that didn't buy buzz blades would be feasible or not. A few notes about why this doesn't seem so crazy to me:

-Shrapnel bombs and the negotiator can get you through space station on their own
-A high level negotiator might be enough for the Argos fight (untested)
-Shrapnel bombs + high level negotiator + Zurkon seem like enough for the Nefarious/Azimuth fights (untested)
-All extraneous bolt collection is eliminated

If anyone has any feedback about this let me know. I'm particularly interested in how well the shrapnel bombs + negotiator work for the 3 bosses I mentioned.


When I noticed bolts getting tight I timed all the boss fights with the various weapons to see if buzz blades could be dropped or picked up later. I found that the buzz blades were without a doubt the fastest option over the negotiator in every fight. Using shrapnel bombs on Azimuth was extremely slow since he is so small and you run into ammo problems. Nefarious was the same way with his small hitbox.

Skipping the Vorselon fight has too many downsides and I never included it in the runs I did. It saves 20ish seconds immediately but you run into a bolt problem as you lose about 8-9k alongside having the groovitron glove be under leveled for Nefarious, and Azimuth ultimately losing you time.

I don't see anyway to take the buzz blades completely out of the route. You could wait until Gimlick to buy the buzzblades which you would definitely have the bolts for by that point. The downside is that the buzz blades do accelerate the Nefarious Space station by quite a lot and are usually around V2 by the end of it.

The route could definitely be sped up in theory if you could find 8k bolts faster than the time it takes to kill Vorselon ontop of leveling the Groovitron glove. With the skip clippy found to skip one of the rooms in the space station you wouldn't need a V4 groovitron glove until the Nefarious and Azimuth, so you could level it in Gimlick Valley. 

So overall Buzz blades are too good to skip, bolts are tight, and incorporating the Vorselon skip into the game just loses you time and over complicates the route at this point.
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redsthename: 2015-02-10 03:46:11 pm
aka CheesyPoofs


Saves 2 minutes in the space station. Skips a lot of the fighting sections and allows you to buy the buzz blades in Gimlick valley freeing up the bolt restrictions. This should allow the Vorselon fight skip to be used.
Only downside is you have to level up the buzz blades and groovitron glove in Gimlick valley. The buzz blades level very fast but I'm unaware of how fast the groovitron glove will level in gimlick valley.

*groovitron glove levels faster than the buzz blades.
Wow. Well that changes things. That any% record is looking pretty free right now.

I figured buzz blades were still necessary, but it's nice to hear that the other weapons have still been tested. Also, I wasn't sure exactly how much money was lost by skipping the Vorselon fight, but after I noticed myself coming up short on bolts I found enough extra bolts to just barely get by without losing too much time. Seems like that won't really be necessary anymore.

I have a couple thoughts/questions about how this changes the route:
-I think the ideal place to buy the groovitron now is when you first arrive at Vorselon 2. That store is the least out of your way, and you presumably still want the groovitron for the last room of Space Station. If you do this, its probably worth buying full ammo for the groovitron when you get the buzz blades.
-Fighting the hydra tanks with shrapnel bombs is way faster than fighting them with buzz blades, but obviously we need to level the blades a lot more now, so I'm not sure which weapon is better to use for that fight. Any idea if the hydra tanks give enough weapon exp to make it worth killing them with buzz blades, or should we stick to shrapnel bombs for them?

Great find. Time to go practice.
aka CheesyPoofs
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Wow. Well that changes things. That any% record is looking pretty free right now.

I figured buzz blades were still necessary, but it's nice to hear that the other weapons have still been tested. Also, I wasn't sure exactly how much money was lost by skipping the Vorselon fight, but after I noticed myself coming up short on bolts I found enough extra bolts to just barely get by without losing too much time. Seems like that won't really be necessary anymore.

I have a couple thoughts/questions about how this changes the route:
-I think the ideal place to buy the groovitron now is when you first arrive at Vorselon 2. That store is the least out of your way, and you presumably still want the groovitron for the last room of Space Station. If you do this, its probably worth buying full ammo for the groovitron when you get the buzz blades.
-Fighting the hydra tanks with shrapnel bombs is way faster than fighting them with buzz blades, but obviously we need to level the blades a lot more now, so I'm not sure which weapon is better to use for that fight. Any idea if the hydra tanks give enough weapon exp to make it worth killing them with buzz blades, or should we stick to shrapnel bombs for them?

Great find. Time to go practice.


Awhile ago I routed time dedicated to leveling the buzz blades in gimlick so you kill mobs that are not even required. The hydra tanks also give no exp. I got 1:21 5-6 months ago at that time I was thinking sub 1:20 was pretty easily obtainable. I would go for 1:17-1:18 now.
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Awhile ago I routed time dedicated to leveling the buzz blades in gimlick so you kill mobs that are not even required. The hydra tanks also give no exp. I got 1:21 5-6 months ago at that time I was thinking sub 1:20 was pretty easily obtainable. I would go for 1:17-1:18 now.


Yeah, I mean you're still way better than me at this game though. My goal before this trick was a low 1:22, I'm not sure what I'll go for now.

Do you not have a way to record your runs? It would be cool to see an actual good run of this game.
aka CheesyPoofs
Quote from Lombax999:
Quote from redsthename:
Awhile ago I routed time dedicated to leveling the buzz blades in gimlick so you kill mobs that are not even required. The hydra tanks also give no exp. I got 1:21 5-6 months ago at that time I was thinking sub 1:20 was pretty easily obtainable. I would go for 1:17-1:18 now.


Yeah, I mean you're still way better than me at this game though. My goal before this trick was a low 1:22, I'm not sure what I'll go for now.

Do you not have a way to record your runs? It would be cool to see an actual good run of this game.


I'm currently looking into finding more exploits and would appreciate any assistance.

Axiom city still has potential as the ramp you hoverboot off is very close to where you first load in.
I'm currently looking more into skipping Battleplex and potentially more by completing tombli before battleplex causing a glitched vorselons warship, but it is most likely a dead end.

That's all I can really think of as everything else has been a dead end.
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Quote from redsthename:
Awhile ago I routed time dedicated to leveling the buzz blades in gimlick so you kill mobs that are not even required. The hydra tanks also give no exp. I got 1:21 5-6 months ago at that time I was thinking sub 1:20 was pretty easily obtainable. I would go for 1:17-1:18 now.


Yeah, I mean you're still way better than me at this game though. My goal before this trick was a low 1:22, I'm not sure what I'll go for now.

Do you not have a way to record your runs? It would be cool to see an actual good run of this game.


I'm currently looking into finding more exploits and would appreciate any assistance.

Axiom city still has potential as the ramp you hoverboot off is very close to where you first load in.
I'm currently looking more into skipping Battleplex and potentially more by completing tombli before battleplex causing a glitched vorselons warship, but it is most likely a dead end.

That's all I can really think of as everything else has been a dead end.


I can definitely try to help out with that kind of stuff. I'm busy for a couple of days, but maybe some time after the weekend I'll check out the Axiom City thing. Let me know if you think of anything else.