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djcj: 2007-12-07 01:07:13 pm

2007-12-07 01:02:50 pm

But those ADHD movements are also annoying as hell to watch.
That always remembers me in Spider-Waffle's Opossing Force
speedrun whose end is totally ruined because of those annoying
turning on and off of the flashlight.

Just relax and get ready for the next chamber. Grin

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Here's the video showing how to get through the door in chamber 18 without using any object to open/block it. Too bad that kind of ledge is so far away :(.

Will you use this way in your speedrun or will you just do it like before?
To me, this seems faster that getting the cube to get through the door.
And thanks for the video, I'll try it myself.

groobo

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groobo: 2007-12-07 02:24:31 pm

2007-12-07 02:22:10 pm

boss

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But those ADHD movements are also annoying as hell to watch.
That always remembers me in Spider-Waffle's Opossing Force
speedrun whose end is totally ruined because of those annoying
turning on and off of the flashlight.

Just relax and get ready for the next chamber. Grin

Every elevator is 20s long, I'd go mad before finishing even one full attempt. Another point is that I always stop focusing/get confused when standing still (eg the elevator door opens and I'm just standing there thinking of what the fuck is going on).

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Will you use this way in your speedrun or will you just do it like before?
To me, this seems faster that getting the cube to get through the door.
And thanks for the video, I'll try it myself.

I'll be using the old route (well, one part will get a little tweaked). I'm not able to do one jump with a 100% succession rate and it just isn't worth it to save 2s that far in a run.

djcj

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djcj: 2007-12-07 03:16:10 pm

2007-12-07 03:15:05 pm

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Every elevator is 20s long, I'd go mad before finishing even one full attempt. Another point is that I always stop focusing/get confused when standing still (eg the elevator door opens and I'm just standing there thinking of what the fuck is going on).

You get confused?
LoL Cheesy

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I'll be using the old route (well, one part will get a little tweaked). I'm not able to do one jump with a 100% succession rate and it just isn't worth it to save 2s that far in a run.

Yeah, I tried it and realized that jump is a bit tricky. But for a segmented or an IL run it might be a good way to do that level.

groobo

2007-12-07 05:23:31 pm

boss

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You get confused?
LoL Cheesy

Belive me, I literally get sleepy when I have to wait for something for more than a couple of seconds, aka loose my focus.

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Yeah, I tried it and realized that jump is a bit tricky. But for a segmented or an IL run it might be a good way to do that level.

The old method with the camera is way faster.

Ekelbatzen

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Ekelbatzen: 2007-12-07 05:35:18 pm

2007-12-07 05:33:11 pm

Hm...I dont know, i think with that glitch you can save around 10-15 seconds when done well, I tried it a few times and it works quite well. Which time are you aiming at for that chamber?

ZenicReverie

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ZenicReverie: 2007-12-07 05:50:10 pm

2007-12-07 05:49:40 pm

Waiting hurts my soul...

Not sure, but that would take an explanation in the comments if you do choose to include it. It's almost like unexplained warping since you're not really seen going through the portal...btw: that is one hell of a glitch. Any other doors it could be used on?

Ekelbatzen

2007-12-07 05:52:20 pm

Hm... i got it on 47 seconds now, but I am sure you can save about 5 seconds more.

DemonStrate

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DemonStrate: 2007-12-07 07:31:05 pm

2007-12-07 07:30:55 pm

If we were you, we would quit now.

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Not sure, but that would take an explanation in the comments if you do choose to include it. It's almost like unexplained warping since you're not really seen going through the portal...btw: that is one hell of a glitch. Any other doors it could be used on?

To quote myself from 2 pages ago...

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Volt, who discovered this other glitch:
http://forums.thinkingwithportals.com/viewtopic.php?t=506
which allows you access outside the map (which is against SDA rules for all who don't know), is a mapper, whom also found a way to fix it if you were going to make portal maps.

It could be used on other places... It really has nothing to do with the door itself. It just puts you above the top of a portal. In this instance, the top of a portal is against the door, so it puts you 'in' the door, aka, the other side of the door.

djcj

2007-12-07 10:41:59 pm

I found out that you get sometimes very extreme momentum when going through a portal:

I also found out that in chamber 9 the cube vanished after I tried to get it behind the door:
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=7A5pV1A2vNg

Zanthra

2007-12-07 11:16:52 pm

The real argument for sitting still in the elevator is the fact that it's more efficient to compress, therefore upping the quality on the rest of the video in 2 pass, or smaller file in constant quality. But through youtube it's not going to make any difference, and if you can't run as well without keeping moving, then by all means keep doing that.

usernameguy

2007-12-07 11:52:40 pm

Side note: you can't sneak items past the emancipation fields into the elevators with a portal bump, apparently. There's no place for the bumped portal to land. Tried it on 12, 13, and 16 with no success.

DemonStrate

2007-12-08 03:51:08 am

If we were you, we would quit now.

I think you guys will like this one. Does the rocket launcher area without using the rocket launcher, and it also doesnt use the chair either for boosting into the vent. Check it out:

Xeren

2007-12-08 06:01:51 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I have no idea if this is posted (too many pages to go through) but there is a video of someone beating this game in 20 minutes

http://www.destructoid.com/video-portal-beaten-in-under-20-minutes-53220.phtml

usernameguy

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usernameguy: 2007-12-08 06:04:31 am

2007-12-08 06:03:11 am

Yeah, that'd be groobo. You can see him posting above. He calls himself groobotube on YouTube apparently - guess it's more like GrooboTube. He's planning a sub-17-minute run at the moment.

djcj

2007-12-08 12:15:56 pm

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I think you guys will like this one. Does the rocket launcher area without using the rocket launcher, and it also doesnt use the chair either for boosting into the vent. Check it out:

Nice video. Grin

But would that be allowed in a speedrun?
Because at one point he's outside the map...

groobo

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groobo: 2007-12-08 01:44:29 pm

2007-12-08 01:43:46 pm

boss

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But would that be allowed in a speedrun?
Because at one point he's outside the map...

IME you're not oob until there's a clip brush under your feet, no matter if it's covered with textures or invisible.

slYnki

2007-12-08 07:17:59 pm

XXY

It's kind of funny to think about mysterious teleporting being called into question in this run, seeing as how the game is called Portals XD!

ZenicReverie

2007-12-09 01:20:48 am

Waiting hurts my soul...

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IME you're not oob until there's a clip brush under your feet, no matter if it's covered with textures or invisible.

clip brush?

djcj

2007-12-09 01:38:27 am

Found these two videos on youtube:

groobo

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groobo: 2007-12-09 09:43:09 am

2007-12-09 09:34:52 am

boss

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clip brush?

A clip brush is an invisible brush on a map afaik, yes.

edit: it got to me that my earlier post doesn't make any sense for most people (brush = textured, clip brush = invisible), so: you're not oob as long as you have something solid to stand on, directly under you.

Ekelbatzen

2007-12-09 05:40:50 pm

So now it isnt allowed?

CMiller

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CMiller: 2007-12-09 05:44:43 pm

2007-12-09 05:44:14 pm

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edit: it got to me that my earlier post doesn't make any sense for most people (brush = textured, clip brush = invisible), so: you're not oob as long as you have something solid to stand on, directly under you.

Not true. SDA won't take runs in Halo, for instance <a href="http://files.mythica.org/halo/highimpacthalo/highspeed/Halo/Maw/Maw_legendary_Cody2.mp4">This one</a>. Notice, I AM standing on something solid directly under me, but I am out of the map. This was not acceptable apparently.

Siyko

2007-12-09 05:47:48 pm

I used to be athiest until I realized I was God.

wow, just when this game felt really optimized, it gets cracked wide open. Nice find on the portal bumping.

I wish I could give some input about the out of bounds rule, but that rule has never sat right with me, so I will refrain from comment.

tekknej

2007-12-09 06:40:00 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

i don't understand why they wouldn't let this halo segment... FEAR speedruns have the same thing... i could be wrong, but afair hl1 speedrun also has a little bit of oob =)

groobo

2007-12-09 07:34:27 pm

boss

Dunno, it's probably up to whoever verifies a run. The oob rule that I described earlier applies to my both FEAR runs and the run that I'm doing for Okami.