Pokemon Leaf Green/Fire Red Discussion topic

Thomaz

2008-08-01 03:08:27 pm

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I suggest trying to get a crit here and there, you'll need less turns then, so I'd say yes.

UltimateDarius

2008-08-01 05:19:40 pm

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Quote from Thomaz:

I suggest trying to get a crit here and there, you'll need less turns then, so I'd say yes.

Early enough in the SS run to try for crits, you think?

DoubleThink

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DoubleThink: 2008-08-01 06:37:07 pm

2008-08-01 06:29:31 pm

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Getting that 50 exp sounds worth it to me based just on what you've said there, and who knows, it might even come in handy later.
As for other stuff...
Getting a Lucky Egg/hoping for crits in a Single Segment run isn't really an option since neither of them can be relied upon and so odds are they will screw up your run (for some fun times with Lucky Eggs, check out the Diamond/Pearl thread). For segmented... by all means, go ahead.
As for Rain Dance vs X-Specials... I would say stick with the Specials, as Rain Dance takes up a move slot and only boosts water moves while X-Spec can boost Ice Beam/Bite/Whatever.

UltimateDarius

2008-08-02 12:01:17 pm

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Quote from DoubleThink:

Getting that 50 exp sounds worth it to me based just on what you've said there, and who knows, it might even come in handy later.
As for other stuff...
Getting a Lucky Egg/hoping for crits in a Single Segment run isn't really an option since neither of them can be relied upon and so odds are they will screw up your run (for some fun times with Lucky Eggs, check out the Diamond/Pearl thread). For segmented... by all means, go ahead.
As for Rain Dance vs X-Specials... I would say stick with the Specials, as Rain Dance takes up a move slot and only boosts water moves while X-Spec can boost Ice Beam/Bite/Whatever.

Believe me, I know about the lucky egg. I was merely trying to test it for segmented purposes, and I haven't even managed to get it there. I was mistaken about the bug catcher battle, it takes 4 torrented bubbles, or 6 tackles.

Thomaz

2008-08-02 03:08:49 pm

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Whoops, forgot about the SS part. I read something about saving so I initially thought it was segmented. ;/

UltimateDarius

2008-08-08 07:57:45 pm

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One possible solution is to skip surge until later...after the SS Anne, head for rock tunnel, go thru rocket game corner, and then cut thru saffron and to the north to challenge surge then. I suspect you'd lose about a minutes worth of time cycling instead of flying...however there is nearly zero risk of Raichu screwing my SS up. Not to mention that by this point I should be faster than his voltorb and his raichu, and possibly be able to OHKO raichu...

Any thoughts?

JWise

2008-08-09 07:08:14 pm

What Are Ya' Buyin?

Sounds good to me.

UltimateDarius

2008-08-11 03:28:46 am

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Meh, surge and his damn trash cans! I'm submitting a 3:04.40 run, HQ. Without disc updating and switching and loading, it'd be 2:59, but they don't care about all that here. I hope it's good enough for everyone for the time being, until luck likes me more =/

Phở

2008-08-11 12:12:46 pm

Too cool for 7th grade.

well it's like the SS Pokemon Red run, where the single segment is 30 minutes longer than the segmented.

Even if it's not accepted, send me the vid later tonight when you're on. I still wanna watch it. Smiley

UltimateDarius

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UltimateDarius: 2008-08-13 06:49:25 pm

2008-08-13 05:51:42 pm

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Good thing I'm stubborn and didn't settle for less...now I have a 2:49:09 on DVD being encoded for submission! Is SDA ready?

Edit: It's on the verification topic (again, lol). Ripped to my PC, waiting for you guys Smiley

DoubleThink

2008-08-13 08:45:52 pm

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Nice, will watch. It sounds like a good time for a SS when compared with the original Red and seeing as FireRed is arguably longer/more complex.

UltimateDarius

2008-08-16 06:21:45 pm

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C'mon guys, I'm sure that some of you could be verifiers! I'm ready to get my first run up already!

UltimateDarius

2008-09-12 06:00:14 pm

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Hopefully it gets posted...I apparently got a good and a poor review that I know of so far by the verifiers...I'm dying with the anticipation of knowing either way though. In the meantime, I've been working on my e4r2 run touchup, and aim to begin attempting a real run very soon. Any further ideas on this run, i.e. dex entries, safari/fishing, etc. would be greatly appreciated!

Thomaz

2008-09-13 06:33:47 am

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Will it be SS or segmented?

UltimateDarius

2008-09-14 07:06:54 am

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Quote from Thomaz:

Will it be SS or segmented?

I will do a SS for sure, but I may consider doing a segmented also afterwards, just because there are SO many things that can be done faster segmented. (i.e. catching the pokemon just by balling it, catching rare stone evolution pokemon {pika, jiggs, clefairy}, or just rare pokemon in general, allowing more use of repel later, etc.)EDIT: Also in a segmented run, I could feasibly obtain the lucky egg, which for those of you who don't know, gives you boosted (1.5) experience points for every pokemon you defeat while it's equipped, and it would apply for about 2/3 of the run...which may allow for the rare candies to be used to level evolve high level wild pokemon

Thomaz

2008-09-14 02:02:22 pm

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Yeah, they both have their ups and downs. I wonder how long it would take to get there segmented VS single-segmented. Well, the time difference between the two.

Why not do both?

J/k. Tongue

Really though, I would like both. I for sure know that I would never SS my current Pokemon Blue 100% run haha.

UltimateDarius

2008-09-16 10:11:20 pm

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I have "officially" taken over this topic. First post outlines the basic run. 2nd post outlines (or will outline, ASAP) the "E4R2" run. If anyone can think of anything better for either post, let me know please!

UltimateDarius

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UltimateDarius: 2008-09-24 05:29:45 pm

2008-09-23 03:40:21 pm

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Correct me if I'm wrong, add to the list if you can, let me know which of these rare candy evolutions would be best. (Assume we only use one candy)

Safari Zone:

Paras -> Parasect
Nidoran M -> Nidorino (+ moon stone to Nidoking)
Nidoran F -> Nidorina (+ moon stone to Nidoqueen)

Islands:
Pidgey-> Pidgeotto
Oddish/Bellsprout -> Gloom/Weepingbell (+ stone evolution)
Psyduck -> Golduck (+ in game trade for lickitung)
Venonat -> Venomoth

Victory Road:
Geodude -> Graveller
Zubat -> Golbat
Machop -> Machoke

I will be updating second post later tonight for this run...any and all input is appreciated!

EDIT: Pokemon Mansion:
Ratatta -> Raticate

gia

2008-09-23 07:05:49 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

who needs more exp, give to them

petrie911

2008-09-24 12:55:18 pm

Everybody loves Hypnotoad!

I think Pidgeotto can be caught wild on the islands.

UltimateDarius

2008-09-24 01:27:14 pm

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Quote from petrie911:

I think Pidgeotto can be caught wild on the islands.

Yep. But I don't think it's level 35 or higher, and in a SS, I believe that evolution is faster than finding and then trying to catch with all the things that could go wrong.

UltimateDarius

2008-09-24 06:14:37 pm

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Post 2 (Elite 4 Round 2) updated with I believe all the current information we have. Please review and respond.

UltimateDarius

2008-10-02 12:11:32 am

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Bump! Triple Post!

Oh, wait, this isn't Gamefaqs.

The real reason? Re-modified, "perfect"? dex entry list. Please review.

MrSparkle

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MrSparkle: 2008-10-03 09:46:48 pm

2008-10-02 07:54:58 am

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Quote from UltimateDarius:

Quote from petrie911:

I think Pidgeotto can be caught wild on the islands.

Yep. But I don't think it's level 35 or higher, and in a SS, I believe that evolution is faster than finding and then trying to catch with all the things that could go wrong.

I found this at Gamefaqs. Not sure if either place is en route. Only 5% at Bond Bridge, but with an extra Rare Candy it's 15%, and Five Isle has a 15% chance with one candy. Not the greatest of SS pokemon to capture, but it's worth looking out for?

Bond Bridge : Lv 34 at 10%, Lv 37 at 4%, Lv 40 at 1%
Five Isle Meadow : Lv 48 at 10%, Lv 50 at 5%

ForteGS

2008-10-03 06:15:50 am

Bring me the flaming voodoo canonball!

I'm just hoping that the normal SS run gets posted soon >_>
The verifiers are taking too much time >_>