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Obscure games ftw
I've been planning a segmented run of this for a while now, and am pretty sure my strategies are sound. However there are things I've definitely overlooked and I want to make the fastest run I can. I have no segments recorded yet, though segment 1 looks like it has a 1/7 chance of succeeding, though this won't carry through the whole game. Saving takes about 3 seconds, so I will very likely be saving on every return trip to Gensoyko-this run will have LOTS of segments.
I'm going through each floor making a map of it (through the 10th floor with the base map, still have to go through and fill in events), and working out exactly what enemy formations can appear (done with only the first floor so far-one encounter proves to be far superior to every other in almost every way, going to be fun times trying to force a few of those on the run to the 2F stairs ).
So, any thoughts on what I have so far/suggestions to improve it/interest in the run?
I'm going through each floor making a map of it (through the 10th floor with the base map, still have to go through and fill in events), and working out exactly what enemy formations can appear (done with only the first floor so far-one encounter proves to be far superior to every other in almost every way, going to be fun times trying to force a few of those on the run to the 2F stairs ).
Be able to fight Chen.
Go to 2F.
Be able to fight Cirno while grinding on 2F.
Recruit Chen slightly overleveled. Get her drop.
Recruit Meiling slightly overleveled with Chen in the party. Get her drop.
Recruit Cirno slightly underleveled. Her drop would be nice but it's not rquired and can be gotten through other means.
Recruit Minoriko. Every character counts at this stage, and she's only a couple minutes out of the way (and I can grab a few more Power Belts)
Recruit Youmu. Force the drop. Probably the first hellish segment.
Defeat Ifrit and Alice's dolls.
Recruit Alice. Pleasepleasepleaseplease get the Forbidden Tablet as it gives a 30% MAG boost which is huge at this stage.
Defeat 5F St. Elmo's Fire. Force the drop-we'll need it for Chen running later.
Recruit Iku. Her buffing ability will save us later.
We have a full party now, hooray!
Defeat 6F Elmo's Fire. Force the drop-we'll need it for Chen running later.
Trigger both 7F switches. Do not encounter Nitori.
Encounter Nitori. Guaranteed DEF +30% item for winning!
Trigger Komachi on the way. Leave the Frozen Frog by Tam's Foe, make sure to pick up all others throughout the game.
Defeat Tam's Foe. Despite the simple attack script this will be a HARD fight to survive. I have a strategy that has worked in prior playthroughs, but with a few changes to account for having Iku and not having Wriggle and Aya.
Do nothing on 8F for now.
Before Reisen, do the following:
Recruit Komachi. Maybe do this sooner depending on how her spirit thingies go down and use her DTH inflicting abilities to speed up grinding.
Defeat 8F Nitori IF AND ONLY IF she gives more EXP/SKP per second than the encounters. I don't think she does and I don't need an EVA+ item.
Defeat Reisen, getting the Getitup V. Rabbit minions are irrelevant, though I suspect the winning run will have mostly soldiers.
Abuse the glitch that lets you skip through the colored gates to reach the failsafe locks. You can't get OOB to skip the Eientei fight, which sucks because it's the hardest fight yet, again, and Reisen Eirin Mokou and Kaguya aren't worth using/the time to recruit.
Before Eientei, recruit Nitori and Suwako. Overleved fights are easy fights and we want the drops too
Defeat Eientei with the party (MeilingRemilia Sakuya Komachi Youmu Reimu Marisa Patchy Alice Nitori Suwako Iku Ran)
For Eientei items: try to get the Getitup. Don't stress about missing the Star or the Sunglasses, but if you get them, offer a sacrifice to the RNG gods.
13 GOTO 14
Defeat Evil Forge with Komachi and Reimu as MVPs. Nitori helps too!
Defeat Hill Gigas via PAR abuse. Marisa and Patchy for primary sources of damage. Suwako keeps it from getting a turn. Get its drop.
On the 16th floor, perform the Yukari skip by doing the same colored gate skip used in the Iron Maze to get through Yukari's barrier relay things. You can get OOB with these =D. Blitz 17F with Miraculous Flame Chen.
Get to the second 18F relay point.
Grind.
Grind more.
Grind some more.
Recruit Yukari skipping Djinn Storm(s), getting her drop too. Maybe skip this step, leaving Alice
Recruit Rinnosuke. This is the hardest fight in the game.
This is your party. Meiling KomachiRemilia Sakuya Youmu Reimu Marisa Nitori Suwako Patchy Iku Yukari/Alice Ran Get lucky.
BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF THAT THE STAR OF ELENDIL IS 100% GUARANTEED
Add Rinnosuke to the party. Replace Alice if Yukari was completely skipped, probably Youmu otherwise after the 19F bosses
Enter 19F, find all 4 bosses
Defeat Great Intellect (Youmu/Nitori/Suwako/Komachi)
Defeat Rainbow Phoenix (PAR+Youmu(God Slash?)/Nitori/Suwako/Patchy etc.)
Defeat Genocider (PAR+Patchy/Nitori/other nukers)
Defeat Cosmic (SPD DBF?+Suwako/Youmu)
Get the 20F relay point
Grind the few enemies vulnerable to death, get some drops. The segments will be brutal!
Prepare for Maribel. Final party is Meiling KomachiRemilia Sakuya Reimu Marisa Nitori Suwako Patchy Iku Rinnosuke Ran Youmu/Yukari
Maribel shouldn't be too hard as she gives you time to buff in the start of the fight, and her last phase is get lucky with 0 Djinn Storm few self-buff.
Run's over. You can go home now. But first, enjoy the ending.
Go to 2F.
Be able to fight Cirno while grinding on 2F.
Recruit Chen slightly overleveled. Get her drop.
Recruit Meiling slightly overleveled with Chen in the party. Get her drop.
Recruit Cirno slightly underleveled. Her drop would be nice but it's not rquired and can be gotten through other means.
Recruit Minoriko. Every character counts at this stage, and she's only a couple minutes out of the way (and I can grab a few more Power Belts)
Recruit Youmu. Force the drop. Probably the first hellish segment.
Defeat Ifrit and Alice's dolls.
Recruit Alice. Pleasepleasepleaseplease get the Forbidden Tablet as it gives a 30% MAG boost which is huge at this stage.
Defeat 5F St. Elmo's Fire. Force the drop-we'll need it for Chen running later.
Recruit Iku. Her buffing ability will save us later.
We have a full party now, hooray!
Defeat 6F Elmo's Fire. Force the drop-we'll need it for Chen running later.
Trigger both 7F switches. Do not encounter Nitori.
Encounter Nitori. Guaranteed DEF +30% item for winning!
Trigger Komachi on the way. Leave the Frozen Frog by Tam's Foe, make sure to pick up all others throughout the game.
Defeat Tam's Foe. Despite the simple attack script this will be a HARD fight to survive. I have a strategy that has worked in prior playthroughs, but with a few changes to account for having Iku and not having Wriggle and Aya.
Do nothing on 8F for now.
Before Reisen, do the following:
Recruit Komachi. Maybe do this sooner depending on how her spirit thingies go down and use her DTH inflicting abilities to speed up grinding.
Defeat 8F Nitori IF AND ONLY IF she gives more EXP/SKP per second than the encounters. I don't think she does and I don't need an EVA+ item.
Defeat Reisen, getting the Getitup V. Rabbit minions are irrelevant, though I suspect the winning run will have mostly soldiers.
Abuse the glitch that lets you skip through the colored gates to reach the failsafe locks. You can't get OOB to skip the Eientei fight, which sucks because it's the hardest fight yet, again, and Reisen Eirin Mokou and Kaguya aren't worth using/the time to recruit.
Before Eientei, recruit Nitori and Suwako. Overleved fights are easy fights and we want the drops too
Defeat Eientei with the party (Meiling
For Eientei items: try to get the Getitup. Don't stress about missing the Star or the Sunglasses, but if you get them, offer a sacrifice to the RNG gods.
13 GOTO 14
Defeat Evil Forge with Komachi and Reimu as MVPs. Nitori helps too!
Defeat Hill Gigas via PAR abuse. Marisa and Patchy for primary sources of damage. Suwako keeps it from getting a turn. Get its drop.
On the 16th floor, perform the Yukari skip by doing the same colored gate skip used in the Iron Maze to get through Yukari's barrier relay things. You can get OOB with these =D. Blitz 17F with Miraculous Flame Chen.
Get to the second 18F relay point.
Grind.
Grind more.
Grind some more.
Recruit Yukari skipping Djinn Storm(s), getting her drop too. Maybe skip this step, leaving Alice
Recruit Rinnosuke. This is the hardest fight in the game.
This is your party. Meiling Komachi
BREATHE A SIGH OF RELIEF THAT THE STAR OF ELENDIL IS 100% GUARANTEED
Add Rinnosuke to the party. Replace Alice if Yukari was completely skipped, probably Youmu otherwise after the 19F bosses
Enter 19F, find all 4 bosses
Defeat Great Intellect (Youmu/Nitori/Suwako/Komachi)
Defeat Rainbow Phoenix (PAR+Youmu(God Slash?)/Nitori/Suwako/Patchy etc.)
Defeat Genocider (PAR+Patchy/Nitori/other nukers)
Defeat Cosmic (SPD DBF?+Suwako/Youmu)
Get the 20F relay point
Grind the few enemies vulnerable to death, get some drops. The segments will be brutal!
Prepare for Maribel. Final party is Meiling Komachi
Maribel shouldn't be too hard as she gives you time to buff in the start of the fight, and her last phase is get lucky with 0 Djinn Storm few self-buff.
Run's over. You can go home now. But first, enjoy the ending.
So, any thoughts on what I have so far/suggestions to improve it/interest in the run?
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