Destiny End Game Speedrunning

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CoS Twitch: 2014-12-07 03:03:04 am

2014-11-30 02:51:59 am

Destiny Speedruns

Destiny initially was looked at as a game that wasnt worth speedrunning. "its ever changing" "theres no glitches" "theres not a consistant patch to play on" all quotes ive heard from people when I was talking about it with other people. This didnt stop me though I took the dive and its started to catch on and this to me is awesome. If your considering speedrunning this game theres quite a bit you need to know so if your interested keep reading.

Categories:

- NG+ Full Story

RULES:
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22)
- Time Starts when you land on the first mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up on the last mission
- Manual Orbit it allowed this means as soon as the end mission timer appears you can orbit
- Every mission in the vanilla game must be completed for the run to count

- NG+ Side missions only

RULES:
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22)
- Time Starts when you land on the first mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up on the last mission
- Manual Orbit it allowed this means as soon as the end mission timer appears you can orbit
- All side mission must be complete for the run to count this is indicated by mission icons without wreaths such as the last array and the warmind on earth

- NG+ Main Missions Only

RULES:
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22)
- Time Starts when you land on the first mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up on the last mission
- Manual Orbit it allowed this means as soon as the end mission timer appears you can orbit
- All main mission must be complete for the run to count this is indicated by mission icons with wreaths such as restoration and the dark within on earth

- NG+ (insert mission)

RULES:
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22)
- Time Starts when you land on the mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up
- some missions have mandatory cutscenes these are included in the times

- NG+ (insert strike)

RULES:
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 24 heroic modfier or above
- Time Starts when you land on the strike and ends one the frame the end strike timer shows up
- This must be ran as a full fireteam or solo if it is a nightfall or weekly

NG+ (insert planet)

- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission on (planet chosen) must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22 on mars)
- Time Starts when you land on the first mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up on the last mission
- Manual Orbit it allowed this means as soon as the end mission timer appears you can orbit
- Every mission in the vanilla game must be completed for the run to count

-DLC Categories will be added when that time comes

SubCategories:

Each of the above categories have sub categories due to the fact that each class has its own abilities and perk sets these are:

- Hunter
- Warlock
- Titan
- 2Man (this can be any combination of classes at this time)
- Full Fire Team (this can be any combination of classes at this time)

Notable Runs:

CoOpRich's impressive current WR run in 15:53 on NG+ Earth Warlock

IAmKota's Very good WR hunter run in 16:29 on NG+ Earth Hunter

Feel free to discuss anything you feel needs to be addressed or changed about the rules or if you have any questions feel free to ask!

Thread title:

[center][size="36"][u]Destiny Speedruns[/u][/size][/center]

Destiny initially was looked at as a game that wasnt worth speedrunning. "its ever changing" "theres no glitches" "theres not a consistant patch to play on" all quotes ive heard from people when I was talking about it with other people. This didnt stop me though I took the dive and its started to catch on and this to me is awesome. If your considering speedrunning this game theres quite a bit you need to know so if your interested keep reading.

[u][size="28"]Categories:[/size][/u]

- NG+ Full Story

[hidden][u]RULES:[/u]
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22) 
- Time Starts when you land on the first mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up on the last mission
- Manual Orbit it allowed this means as soon as the end mission timer appears you can orbit
- Every mission in the vanilla game must be completed for the run to count [/hidden]

- NG+ Side missions only

[hidden][u]RULES:[/u]
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22) 
- Time Starts when you land on the first mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up on the last mission
- Manual Orbit it allowed this means as soon as the end mission timer appears you can orbit 
- All side mission must be complete for the run to count this is indicated by mission icons without wreaths such as the last array and the warmind on earth[/hidden]

- NG+ Main Missions Only

[hidden][u]RULES:[/u]
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22) 
- Time Starts when you land on the first mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up on the last mission
- Manual Orbit it allowed this means as soon as the end mission timer appears you can orbit 
- All main mission must be complete for the run to count this is indicated by mission icons with wreaths such as restoration and the dark within on earth[/hidden]

- NG+ (insert mission)

[hidden][u]RULES:[/u]
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22) 
- Time Starts when you land on the mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up
- some missions have mandatory cutscenes these are included in the times[/hidden]

- NG+ (insert strike)

[hidden][u]RULES:[/u]
- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission must be completed on level 24 heroic modfier or above  
- Time Starts when you land on the strike and ends one the frame the end strike timer shows up
- This must be ran as a full fireteam or solo if it is a nightfall or weekly[/hidden]

NG+ (insert planet)
 
[hidden]- All gear currently available in the game is allowed (includes DLC weapons when they release)
- All Mission on (planet chosen) must be completed on level 20 heroic modfier or above (this means buried city and the rising tide must be ran on a level 22 on mars) 
- Time Starts when you land on the first mission and ends one the frame the end mission timer shows up on the last mission
- Manual Orbit it allowed this means as soon as the end mission timer appears you can orbit
- Every mission in the vanilla game must be completed for the run to count[/hidden]

-DLC Categories will be added when that time comes

[u][size="28"]SubCategories:[/size][/u]

Each of the above categories have sub categories due to the fact that each class has its own abilities and perk sets these are:

- Hunter
- Warlock
- Titan
- 2Man (this can be any combination of classes at this time)
- Full Fire Team (this can be any combination of classes at this time)

[u][size="28"]Notable Runs:[/size][/u]

CoOpRich's impressive current WR run in 15:53 on NG+ Earth Warlock
[hidden]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVI_hmAGmOU[/hidden]

IAmKota's Very good WR hunter run in 16:29 on NG+ Earth Hunter
[hidden]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-4CkAD6iNo[/hidden]

Feel free to discuss anything you feel needs to be addressed or changed about the rules or if you have any questions feel free to ask!

velocikiller

2014-11-30 05:05:06 pm

I'm really intrigued by this, and I wish my house had decent enough internet to actually play Destiny without going to my dad's...

One thing I feel should be noted when doing runs is the subclass that said characters are using. Subclass is one of the most important points in a run, for instance, a hunter using arc blade can clear a room in no time, whilst a gunslinger can get various bonuses from massive golden gun crits combined with the throwing knife. I don't know much about the other subclasses though so I can't provide much more input in that regard.

CoS Twitch

2014-11-30 11:03:05 pm

Quote from velocikiller:

One thing I feel should be noted when doing runs is the subclass that said characters are using. Subclass is one of the most important points in a run, for instance, a hunter using arc blade can clear a room in no time, whilst a gunslinger can get various bonuses from massive golden gun crits combined with the throwing knife.

I did think about subclasses although the deeper I look into it there becomes so many categories for each specific subclass right now as I said we are running as a sunsinger and gunslinger.

Also you mentioned your internet connection and that comes into play as well with since we mainly run coop as a 2 man team when it comes to loading screens we call them run killers but also play it as if one of us is still moving its not a big deal we also considered initially timing based on in mission time but feel the transitions between missions adds a little bit more of a knowledge requirement to the runs

Deuceler

2014-12-01 11:36:37 pm

SPEEDruns not SAFEruns

Sounds to me like you are doing New Game + due to not starting at Level 1, which is fine. As mentioned by velocikiller subclasses could make a big difference, so perhaps that should be included. Something like, "New Game + Hunter." Ultimately the categories are decided by those in the community running the game, have fun

CoS Twitch

2014-12-02 12:45:48 am

Quote from Deuceler:

Sounds to me like you are doing New Game + due to not starting at Level 1, which is fine. As mentioned by velocikiller subclasses could make a big difference, so perhaps that should be included. Something like, "New Game + Hunter." Ultimately the categories are decided by those in the community running the game, have fun

Im very new to the community as a whole when it comes to speedrunning but I have heard the term New Game + and now that you mention it yes that is what we are talking about. So currently our run is a NG+ Hunter Warlock

CoOpRich

2014-12-02 01:46:12 am

Sounds quite fun to me. I was wondering how speedruns would go on Destiny.

For the "Side Missions Only" run, which missions do you count as the side missions? Might try a few runs solo on that run this week to see how it goes!

IAmKota

2014-12-02 02:25:03 am

World Record Currently Held By IAmKota & CoS Twitch

CoS Twitch

2014-12-02 02:27:19 am

Quote from CoOpRich:

Sounds quite fun to me. I was wondering how speedruns would go on Destiny.

For the "Side Missions Only" run, which missions do you count as the side missions? Might try a few runs solo on that run this week to see how it goes!

Side missions are the missions without the wreaths.

Missions:
The Last Array
The Warmind
The Sword of Crota
Shrine of Oryx
The World's Grave
Scourge of Winter
The Archive
The Buried City
The Rising Tide

We've also running on these rules:
-time starts on landing in the first mission and ends when you finish the last mission and the countdown time shows up
-all missions must be done on a minimum on level 20 heroic modfier (buried city and the rising tide must be ran on 22 because of this)
-any weapon and gear currently obtainable is allowed (this means on dark below release that gear is not aloowed on the current runs)

Its a fun run so enjoy!

IAmKota

2014-12-03 12:59:58 am

The run we should be attempting next, are the planets, starting with Earth, Moon, Venus, Mars and so on. Then we should attempt to beat our record on the full story but that could be saved for another time. Our runs we should get done for sure is possibly the Main Missions done and grab a PB and possibly get a good time on that. Speaking dark below wise we should limit those speed runs to only Dark below items and gear so that way the runs in the regular story is not as simple as it would be at level 32. Those are my thoughts tell me what you think

CoS Twitch

2014-12-03 01:14:15 am

Ive been thinking about this alot and have come up with the following

Categories:

- NG+ Full Story
- NG+ Side Missions
- NG+ Main Mission
- NG+ (insert mission) (insert modifier)
- NG+ Earth
- NG+ Moon
- NG+ Venus
- NG+ Mars

I've covered what full story main story side missions and single missions would involve above but I though about each planet by itself being a category of its own only requiring the missions on said planet

Then as mentioned above Dueceler there are sub categories these in mind should only apply to solo unless the speedrunning community grows and feels 2 man and full fireteam runs should be divided as well.

Sub Categories:
- Solo Hunter
- Solo Warlock
- Solo Titan
- 2-man
- Full Fire Teams

The reason I feel it shouldn't be broken down into sub classes as well is because we've noticed that switching between blade dancer and gunslinger mid run for example can be beneficial on some missions.

As for DLC my thoughts is that any run involving dlc gear or any subclasses if that happens should fall into a NG+ DLC category

Ive been thinking about this alot and have come up with the following

Categories:

- NG+ Full Story
- NG+ Side Missions
- NG+ Main Mission
- NG+ (insert mission) (insert modifier)
- NG+ Earth 
- NG+ Moon
- NG+ Venus
- NG+ Mars

I've covered what full story main story side missions and single missions would involve above but I though about each planet by itself being a category of its own only requiring the missions on said planet

Then as mentioned above Dueceler there are sub categories these in mind should only apply to solo unless the speedrunning community grows and feels 2 man and full fireteam runs should be divided as well.

Sub Categories:
- Solo Hunter
- Solo Warlock
- Solo Titan
- 2-man
- Full Fire Teams

The reason I feel it shouldn't be broken down into sub classes as well is because we've noticed that switching between blade dancer and gunslinger mid run for example  can be beneficial on some missions.

As for DLC my thoughts is that any run involving dlc gear or any subclasses if that happens should fall into a NG+ DLC category

IAmKota

Edit history:

IAmKota: 2014-12-03 02:58:46 am

2014-12-03 02:54:11 am

Found a faster way to save 5.9 seconds on the Warmind Mission on Earth

CoOpRich

2014-12-03 09:27:04 am

Quote from CoS Twitch:

Categories:

- NG+ Full Story
- NG+ Side Missions
- NG+ Main Mission
- NG+ (insert mission) (insert modifier)
- NG+ Earth
- NG+ Moon
- NG+ Venus
- NG+ Mars

Also maybe:

- NG+ All Strikes

Obviously this is full fireteam only (until strike matchmaking isn't compulsory), and not including Dust Palace unless you split categories for consoles.

And a quick rule question... for the runs do we need to watch the countdown timer at the end of the mission or are we allowed to go to orbit manually?

quinntendopower

2014-12-03 11:16:21 am

Takahashi Meijin

Nice runs!

I chuckled a bit at the "WR", but definitely some efficient stuff!

You guys have any plans on trying the raid?

CoS Twitch

2014-12-03 04:30:16 pm

Quote from CoOpRich:

Quote from CoS Twitch:

Categories:

- NG+ Full Story
- NG+ Side Missions
- NG+ Main Mission
- NG+ (insert mission) (insert modifier)
- NG+ Earth
- NG+ Moon
- NG+ Venus
- NG+ Mars

Also maybe:

- NG+ All Strikes

Obviously this is full fireteam only (until strike matchmaking isn't compulsory), and not including Dust Palace unless you split categories for consoles.

And a quick rule question... for the runs do we need to watch the countdown timer at the end of the mission or are we allowed to go to orbit manually?

We didnt even think of manual orbit holy crap that can save so much time! Manual orbit is totally something you and we should use!

Quote from quinntendopower:

Nice runs!

I chuckled a bit at the "WR", but definitely some efficient stuff!

You guys have any plans on trying the raid?

We honestly werent active raiders to begin with so trying to speedrun it would just be a cluster of mess ups and failures for us atleast

IAmKota

2014-12-03 04:40:05 pm

Quote from quinntendopower:

Nice runs!

I chuckled a bit at the "WR", but definitely some efficient stuff!

You guys have any plans on trying the raid?

Honestly the World Record could be beaten easily by us but we took a stab at what we already knew and went for it. It will get better later on.

CoS Twitch

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CoS Twitch: 2014-12-03 07:54:13 pm

2014-12-03 04:50:03 pm

New Time 55:28.34 for the NG+ SMO 2M

IAmKota

2014-12-03 08:06:11 pm

Had a rough run for the NG+ SMO 2M with 55:28.34 we shaved a lot of time off but it wasnt my favorite run because of the mistakes we made in all Moon missions, some a venus and Mars. Tons of time could be saved in the length of these missions

IAmKota

2014-12-04 11:54:10 am

Learned a new strat for the Scourge of Winter mission to cut off a few times and found a new path to get the mission done faster. Mars is currently unknown at this time but i will be practicing hard after i get home today

CoS Twitch

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CoS Twitch: 2014-12-04 12:04:34 pm

2014-12-04 12:04:07 pm

Just ran a NG+ Earth in 18:18.93 uploading it to youtube at the moment ill edit this post when its up

CoOpRich

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CoOpRich: 2014-12-04 03:03:37 pm

2014-12-04 02:58:51 pm

I was up for a very quick run on Earth NG+ Solo Warlock and got caterpillar error and booted out of the last array mission! I did Restoration, The Dark Within and The Warmind in 10:15.
Tried another run, much slower at 10:56 after The Warmind. Kicked again from The Last Array. That's me done for today.

Good run starts at around 19:30 in the broadcast. I found a couple of nice strats in the process so feel free to check them out Cheesy

Edit: Didnt post the broadcast. Silly me! http://www.twitch.tv/coolrich2/b/595698014

IAmKota

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IAmKota: 2014-12-04 06:59:24 pm

IAmKota: 2014-12-04 06:54:04 pm

IAmKota: 2014-12-04 06:53:07 pm

IAmKota: 2014-12-04 06:50:24 pm

2014-12-04 06:48:44 pm

Quote from CoOpRich:

I was up for a very quick run on Earth NG+ Solo Warlock and got caterpillar error and booted out of the last array mission! I did Restoration, The Dark Within and The Warmind in 10:15.
Tried another run, much slower at 10:56 after The Warmind. Kicked again from The Last Array. That's me done for today.

Good run starts at around 19:30 in the broadcast. I found a couple of nice strats in the process so feel free to check them out Cheesy

Edit: Didnt post the broadcast. Silly me! http://www.twitch.tv/coolrich2/b/595698014

CoS Twitch has a 18:18 solo NG+ Earth Warlock. If you could beat that post it here Smiley

In the mean time im going to attempt a hunter NG+ Solo run on earth

CoS Twitch

2014-12-04 07:28:36 pm

As I said earlier I have an 18:18 on NG+ Earth Warlock I didn't have enough time to render and upload earlier I'll get it up when I get home

IAmKota

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IAmKota: 2014-12-04 09:53:18 pm

IAmKota: 2014-12-04 09:52:09 pm

IAmKota: 2014-12-04 08:46:03 pm

2014-12-04 08:31:22 pm

Destiny NG+ Earth Only Solo Hunter World Record 16.56 Amazing run from me Smiley

CoS Twitch

2014-12-04 10:03:18 pm

Quote from IAmKota:

Destiny NG+ Earth Only Solo Hunter World Record 16.56 Amazing run from me Smiley

Jesus dude 16:56 puts my 18:18 to shame

IAmKota

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IAmKota: 2014-12-05 05:02:26 pm

IAmKota: 2014-12-05 05:02:15 pm

IAmKota: 2014-12-05 10:54:47 am

2014-12-05 01:06:15 am

Beat my Earth Time by 3 seconds on stream. keeping the WR with 16:53