Ok guys, this time this is really crazy... I began mashing few minutes ago and I just found a way to mash near the TAS quite easily. I just want to make sure that this mashing is on your level because I use 3 fingers and I get that result very easily. http://www.twitch.tv/remzlab/c/3074740 thanks, I hope I'm not wrong this time 
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Yea we could say that. That fast mash leads to faster set ups like this one for the lv 4 boss : http://www.twitch.tv/remzlab/c/3076194 what do you think of the three button kills?
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I really feel like a lot of the mashing that is now obtained is still unobtainable on a NES controller. No doubt the things TMR is doing take loads of skill in the game and he has the right to be called the best, but it is hard to me to grasp comparing the two because it is so different. I'm not knocking playing on emu (you do what you gotta do, and new strats are being found so fuck yeah) but it just seems so different on multiple levels. I'm am stoked TMR put to rest the turbo talk though, it takes a lot of you to be accused of cheating and to bounce back the way he has.
BTW I don't know if this is still updated by hurblat because I posted my sub 11 run http://www.twitch.tv/remzlab/c/3066101 6 days ago 
Thanks for adding it on the leaderboard. 10:59 is the confirmed time.
Sorry about that, Remz! Updated your time. What emulator and type of controller are you using?
I've made a change to the leaderboard that I want the community's input on. I have split console and emulator into different tables.
To my knowledge we do not know exactly what the differences are between playing on emulator (and differences between emulators) and console to consider them equal. Plus the fact that playing on emulator means that one is most likely not using an NES controller. What Deuceler said earlier about the difference between playing on keyboard and controller is the only info we have right now.
Please note that I simply want us to be able to compare times in a fair way, and I want to hear your opinions.
What do you think?
I've made a change to the leaderboard that I want the community's input on. I have split console and emulator into different tables.
To my knowledge we do not know exactly what the differences are between playing on emulator (and differences between emulators) and console to consider them equal. Plus the fact that playing on emulator means that one is most likely not using an NES controller. What Deuceler said earlier about the difference between playing on keyboard and controller is the only info we have right now.
Please note that I simply want us to be able to compare times in a fair way, and I want to hear your opinions.
What do you think?
Putting a seperate section for emulator is really a bad idea in my opinion and it instantly kills any interrest I have in shaving my time. I play on both the console and emulator and i don't see any difference. I'm not interrested in buying stuff only to stream on the console. Considering TMR and me in a seperate category is a shame and so far this very small community is the only one that I know that act like this. Heidrage is very salty about TMR beating him and I've heard so many BS stuff like suggesting he was using macros and stuff like that. Sorry but now this is just too much. TMR is current WR holder like it or not and as long as this leaderboard is putting him on another category I'll be somewhere else.
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Putting a seperate section for emulator is really a bad idea in my opinion and it instantly kills any interrest I have in shaving my time. I play on both the console and emulator and i don't see any difference. I'm not interrested in buying stuff only to stream on the console. Considering TMR and me in a seperate category is a shame and so far this very small community is the only one that I know that act like this. Heidrage is very salty about TMR beating him and I've heard so many BS stuff like suggesting he was using macros and stuff like that. Sorry but now this is just too much. TMR is current WR holder like it or not and as long as this leaderboard is putting him on another category I'll be somewhere else.
It might just be me but speedrunning was always about enjoyment and improving yourself instead of worrying about who's better and what medium they play on. You shouldn't be bent up about what other people say or think.
So tell me what is the time difference between Nestopia 1.42 and the console that makes thoses times not comparable? Show me your proof that it's an advantage and I'll agree. It's really funny to see how you put someone who is not even playing the us version on the same category but TMR on another one. 
Anyway, I don't want to start a emu vs console debate here. In alttp, SDA WR is so outdated that all the players that beats it won't even try to send a run to SDA because it's already pointless. A guy even beated it in his first 100% run. There are emulators that are allowed by the communities in games that are emulated properly and I feel that the Contra community should allow most NES emulator because there is not a good emulator that can't emulate it very accurately.
What is happening right now is that people like me who play on both will discredit completly a console WR of 10:11 when TMR got that insane emulator 10:10 with so many skill involved that it's scary. So imagine if he gets 10:08 on emulator... The more a community will keep the rules too strict for common evidence, the more it will get discredited to the public eye. TMR is a very popular player on the internet and he gets a huge attention to people interrested in Contra speedrunning and 99% of the people don't care on what he plays on. We are just amazed at how good someone can get by improving himself.
If I remove my time from here, will you put TMR alone in his own category?
What is happening right now is that people like me who play on both will discredit completly a console WR of 10:11 when TMR got that insane emulator 10:10 with so many skill involved that it's scary. So imagine if he gets 10:08 on emulator... The more a community will keep the rules too strict for common evidence, the more it will get discredited to the public eye. TMR is a very popular player on the internet and he gets a huge attention to people interrested in Contra speedrunning and 99% of the people don't care on what he plays on. We are just amazed at how good someone can get by improving himself.
If I remove my time from here, will you put TMR alone in his own category?
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...it is hard to me to grasp comparing the two because it is so different
I kind of share this view somewhat. Not saying playing on emu is in and of itself bad, but it makes things more complicated to compare. Either way, it's been a blast watching both TMR and Heid play so much Contra lately.
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Yea we could say that. That fast mash leads to faster set ups like this one for the lv 4 boss : http://www.twitch.tv/remzlab/c/3076194 what do you think of the three button kills?
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The faster kill of the three buttons seems to make the set up easier.
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I'm mashing on the same button and I can do it on my nes pad as well. I just prefer using an arcade stick for confort when i do a lot of attempts. I'll probably do a run with that soon. (There was no mashing at all in my sub 11 run).
You sure about that last post? Your previous comments don't match up very well with it.
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Nestopia 1.42? Why would you ever use that?
I don't know much about emu differences vs consoles, but is Netsopia 1.42 bad at accurate emulation?
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You are being incredibly petty, remz. A large majority of speed runners recognize the fastest time as the fastest time as long as it is emulated properly. In order to maintain a leaderboard with any kind of credibility, it is important to note what hardware was used for each entry, though. If you don't like it, too bad. Even the SRL/speed run leaderboards that Cosmo et al. are working on will separate emulator vs console. It's up to the runners/viewers to interpret the leaderboards, not up to the person maintaining the leaderboards. If you've got a problem with people not liking TMR's emulated run, talk to them about it. Don't blame hurblat or SDA for that (seriously? why would you bring SDA into this?).
I've never been real happy with how Nestopia runs in general. Might just be because Mecha Richter and I broke multiple copies of that emulator, but there's no reason to use it when there are MUCH better options (Bizhawk if possible, FCEUX if not).
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I don't know much about emu differences vs consoles, but is Netsopia 1.42 bad at accurate emulation?
I've never been real happy with how Nestopia runs in general. Might just be because Mecha Richter and I broke multiple copies of that emulator, but there's no reason to use it when there are MUCH better options (Bizhawk if possible, FCEUX if not).
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I don't know much about emu differences vs consoles, but is Netsopia 1.42 bad at accurate emulation?
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I've never been real happy with how Nestopia runs in general. Might just be because Mecha Richter and I broke multiple copies of that emulator, but there's no reason to use it when there are MUCH better options (Bizhawk if possible, FCEUX if not).
I could record a run on all thoses emulator and a console one and I would be very curious to see if you can guess the difference in Contra. Contra is probably in the top 10 reference to see if an emulator is accurate or not. I didn't know that TAS runs were made on console, I have to admit
Before I got sub 11 there was no problem, and before TMR beated Hurblat and Heidrage, there was no problem. I don't mind having a mention that it's played on emulator, but I would like to remove my name from the leaderboard if it's a different category because I don't agree and I prefer that people see TMR alone in his category to make there mind. But I might disagree with all this, it's really nothing personnal, and thanks for maintaining this and for your help in the game.
I'm going to try and clarify a few things.
- First of all, I have zero pride when it comes to speedrunning. The fact that TMR beat my time only makes me happy, because it means one more player trying to really beat this game to a pulp.
- Separating emulator and console is not saying anything about the skill of the player. This is only about being able to accurately compare runs. A leaderboard is not a good leaderboard if we can't compare runs.
- It's not only about accuracy of emulation. Playing on emulator means that lots of different kinds of controllers can be used. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it makes comparisons complicated.
- The fact that the SRL leaderboards will separate emulator and console runs does not factor in to my opinion, but it shows that this is a notion that exists elsewhere.
- All I want is for us is to be able to have friendly competition and improve. This includes being able to accurately compare times.
- How people interpret what's the WR is not for me to say.
If you really want me to remove your time, Remz, I will do so.
I agree with this. There will always be room for interpretation, and anyone looking at the leaderboard is free to make up their own mind.
Appreciate it.
If I missed anything, feel free to point it out.
- First of all, I have zero pride when it comes to speedrunning. The fact that TMR beat my time only makes me happy, because it means one more player trying to really beat this game to a pulp.
- Separating emulator and console is not saying anything about the skill of the player. This is only about being able to accurately compare runs. A leaderboard is not a good leaderboard if we can't compare runs.
- It's not only about accuracy of emulation. Playing on emulator means that lots of different kinds of controllers can be used. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but it makes comparisons complicated.
- The fact that the SRL leaderboards will separate emulator and console runs does not factor in to my opinion, but it shows that this is a notion that exists elsewhere.
- All I want is for us is to be able to have friendly competition and improve. This includes being able to accurately compare times.
- How people interpret what's the WR is not for me to say.
If you really want me to remove your time, Remz, I will do so.
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It's up to the runners/viewers to interpret the leaderboards
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thanks for maintaining this and for your help in the game
If I missed anything, feel free to point it out.