Battletoads NES

2014-02-23 10:54:26 am

Is PJ

Quote from jc583:

I took PJ's advice in his verification notes, spent some hours on it, and finally figured out how to dash jump off the springs in level 12.

You can do it from any pixel on the spring. It has a two-frame window. It works equally well on right-side up and upside down springs.

1) Jump on the spring.
2) Hold the jump button normally to buffer a high jump off the spring.
3) Wait until you see your toad and the spring ascending together.
4) While still holding the jump button, begin a normal dash input.
5) If the second 'tap' of your double-tap lands within the two-frame window, you will successfully dash jump off the spring.

The exact window is the last two frames before your toad has officially exited the spring, just before becoming airborne.

Good luck. Smiley

Oh awesome! That's really neat. I'll have to look into this. Haha. Thanks for figuring it out for us!

dxtr

2014-02-23 11:53:19 am

Speedrunner

Guess im gonna have to start improving myself! Smiley

jc583

2014-02-23 02:43:41 pm

AAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA

Quote from dxtr:

Guess im gonna have to start improving myself! Smiley

Really looking forward to it dxtr, welcome aboard! (again!)

Kage

2014-03-03 01:51:21 am

I told you in your chat it was 19:54. Guess you missed it.

TheMexicanRunner

2014-03-08 02:51:07 am

Fighting like a Warrior

Thanks Kage hope you beat this time soon Wink

peter afro

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peter afro: 2014-03-08 05:22:19 pm

2014-03-08 01:46:51 pm

Who runs 100%?

TheMexicanRunner

2014-03-13 10:58:54 am

Fighting like a Warrior

I got New PB in any% = 13:29 RTA, 13:36 SDA http://www.twitch.tv/themexicanrunner/c/3878766

MacGyver_987

2014-03-16 04:59:12 pm

I managed to get a tiny improvement in my PB. I split a little early so the actual time is probably closer to 15:47or15:48 (SDA): http://www.twitch.tv/macgyver_987/c/3899757

TheMexicanRunner

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TheMexicanRunner: 2014-03-20 01:39:37 pm

2014-03-20 01:39:19 pm

Fighting like a Warrior

New WR in wapless 24:28 RTA: http://www.twitch.tv/themexicanrunner/c/3918843

Deuceler

2014-03-26 01:57:35 pm

SPEEDruns not SAFEruns

This will happen sooner or later for me - and be prepared for a co-op run in the near future !

TheMexicanRunner

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TheMexicanRunner: 2014-03-31 03:41:28 am

2014-03-31 03:41:04 am

Fighting like a Warrior

Hope to see that 2p co-op in the leaderboard soon Deuceler, in the other hand I just got a new PB in any% http://www.twitch.tv/themexicanrunner/c/3984760

TheMexicanRunner

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TheMexicanRunner: 2014-04-01 07:16:21 pm

2014-04-01 01:49:23 pm

Fighting like a Warrior

New WR for any% 13:16.912 SDA: http://www.twitch.tv/themexicanrunner/c/3992740

PJ

2014-04-01 07:20:52 pm

Is PJ

Quote from TheMexicanRunner:

New WR for any% 13:16.912 SDA: http://www.twitch.tv/themexicanrunner/c/3992740

<3 <3 <3

Amazing run, TMR! Congrats. Cheesy

Deuceler

2014-04-01 09:48:20 pm

SPEEDruns not SAFEruns

Congrats TMR!! Back on top! I hope JC is ready to come back, like he always is!

MASTER-88

2014-04-04 12:32:17 am

Master-88

Congrats TMR. Any-% run was really brutal. I really wonder anyone can beat JC awesome run. Jc run was really mistake free.

I see yesterday you got awesome 100% WR run. 24:12 SRL time rules. Horrible luck with dark queen fight again.

I think someone are really welcomed submit new 100% run, current 100% run into site is really, really sloppy. I wonder how it pass even verification. But 2008 stanard was very different then.

Now we know 23 minutes will happen sooner or later. Its might be something like really brutal cool looking speedrun. Its will be nearly 10 minutes faster than SDA run.

Joka

2014-04-04 02:16:21 am

Personal text

Quote from PJ:

I'll have to actually work on this game now and try to break into that top 3. Tongue

I'm waiting for this ^_^

PJ

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PJ: 2014-04-04 02:50:37 pm

2014-04-04 02:50:17 pm

Is PJ

Quote from MASTER-88:

I think someone are really welcomed submit new 100% run, current 100% run into site is really, really sloppy. I wonder how it pass even verification. But 2008 stanard was very different then.

Now we know 23 minutes will happen sooner or later. Its might be something like really brutal cool looking speedrun. Its will be nearly 10 minutes faster than SDA run.

I was one of the verifiers for that run. Though it had lots of mistakes and missed the rat boot, it was still minutes faster than the previous SDA run. There was no reason to reject it, really. The current strats are well beyond what the strats were back in 2008, but that run was a huge improvement at the time. It is interesting to look back it now. ^_^

Quote from Joka:

Quote from PJ:

I'll have to actually work on this game now and try to break into that top 3. Tongue

I'm waiting for this ^_^

Keep waiting. Haha.

TheMexicanRunner

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TheMexicanRunner: 2014-04-04 04:14:40 pm

2014-04-04 04:11:16 pm

Fighting like a Warrior

Quote from MASTER-88:

I see yesterday you got awesome 100% WR run. 24:12 SRL time rules. Horrible luck with dark queen fight again.

I think someone are really welcomed submit new 100% run, current 100% run into site is really, really sloppy. I wonder how it pass even verification. But 2008 stanard was very different then.

There is one thing, the category i did the last WR is called any% warpless, 100% it is different, and that SDA run is 100%* which that one can be improved to sub 30 with a kick ass time.
There is only one particular problem when it comes to 100% we (community) don't know exactly what to call 100% or which route.

JC is saying that 100% supposed to be the way the developers intended the game, that means: no glitch in lv.3, full last part of arctic caverns, no early exit in snakes pit, no out of bounds and spike skips in Terra Tubes, whole Rat Race.

*The problem is that the current SDA 100% submission has the early skip in snakes level, so I think 100% is a subject to discussion in this forum, i hope you guys can give some ideas so we can settle the rules for 100% battletoads.
I have many questions like, the spinners skips in Terra Tubes, are they gonna be allowed for 100%?

[quote="MASTER-88"]
I see yesterday you got awesome 100% WR run. 24:12 SRL time rules. Horrible luck with dark queen fight again.

I think someone are really welcomed submit new 100% run, current 100% run into site is really, really sloppy. I wonder how it pass even verification. But 2008 stanard was very different then. 
[/quote]
There is one thing, the category i did the last WR is called any% warpless, 100% it is different, and that SDA run is 100%* which that one can be improved to sub 30 with a kick ass time.
There is only one particular problem when it comes to 100% we (community) don't know exactly what to call 100% or which route.

JC is saying that 100% supposed to be the way the developers intended the game, that means: no glitch in lv.3, full last part of arctic caverns, no early exit in snakes pit, no out of bounds and spike skips in Terra Tubes, whole Rat Race.

*The problem is that the current SDA 100% submission has the early skip in snakes level, so I think 100% is a subject to discussion in this forum, i hope you guys can give some ideas so we can settle the rules for 100% battletoads.
I have many questions like, the spinners skips in Terra Tubes, are they gonna be allowed for 100%?

PJ

2014-04-04 05:14:47 pm

Is PJ

100% for this game is definitely arbitrary and probably shouldn't be allowed. It just doesn't make sense, honestly. It's fine for a race/fun category but it doesn't fit SDA. I am not sure why the current run is listed as 100%, but it was intended to be warpless. The categories for this game are simply "with warps", "warpless", and (if it ever happens again on console) "any% with major skips", which goes straight to the credits from level 3.

That is my interpretation/opinion anyways.

TheMexicanRunner

2014-04-04 11:17:06 pm

Fighting like a Warrior

Quote from PJ:

100% for this game is definitely arbitrary and probably shouldn't be allowed. It just doesn't make sense, honestly. It's fine for a race/fun category but it doesn't fit SDA. I am not sure why the current run is listed as 100%, but it was intended to be warpless. The categories for this game are simply "with warps", "warpless", and (if it ever happens again on console) "any% with major skips", which goes straight to the credits from level 3.

That is my interpretation/opinion anyways.

Very deep understanding of the game, I completely agree with you. So let's make it simple, warps and warpless Wink

jc583

2014-04-24 10:13:47 pm

AAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAA

I'm still alive. I have added about 15 seconds worth of TAS strats into the route, which I'm hoping doesn't backfire on me. Sub-13 should be reasonably doable now.

PJ

2014-04-25 09:24:14 am

Is PJ

:O

TheMexicanRunner

2014-04-26 09:19:13 am

Fighting like a Warrior

I just seen this video of yours JC, sick lv.4 Arctic Caverns: http://www.twitch.tv/jc583/c/4117006

MacGyver_987

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MacGyver_987: 2014-05-18 12:17:50 pm

2014-05-18 01:22:22 am

It probably took me longer than it should have, but I finally got an any% time under 15:00. It ended up being 14:56(SDA Timing):

http://www.twitch.tv/macgyver_987/c/4276083

TheMexicanRunner

2014-05-19 06:56:08 pm

Fighting like a Warrior

Congrats MacGyver that is really cool, hope to see more improvements soon. Keep up the good Work.