AGDQ 2016 Game Submissions Information (Submissions are now closed)

2015-10-21 08:00:19 pm

Games!

"October 28, 2015 - Runner Registration Due Date"

"In addition, you will not be required to register until after your game is confirmed to be in the event's final game list. You will have at least 7 full days to register and pay."

Apologies if this has been answered already, but is there an ETA on when the final list will be revealed? Not looking for anything specific, just if we should expect it this week or next.

Cool Matty

2015-10-21 08:23:02 pm

Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.

Quote from Tterraj42:

"October 28, 2015 - Runner Registration Due Date"

"In addition, you will not be required to register until after your game is confirmed to be in the event's final game list. You will have at least 7 full days to register and pay."

Apologies if this has been answered already, but is there an ETA on when the final list will be revealed? Not looking for anything specific, just if we should expect it this week or next.

You will receive an email and a notice in your profile when final games list is posted (if your run is not rejected). We are pushing our estimates back a little to give room for Mike to finish going through the list properly. No matter when the list goes up, runners will have one full week to register afterwards.

mashystrr

2015-10-21 08:42:27 pm

How will it work for situations where runners need to be sorted out? Will we need to decide as soon as the final game list is posted or will there be time to properly evaluate who should run the game? If the latter, I'm assuming we'd all register as runners and when the decision is made, whoever isn't running the game would have to pay the difference at that point.

Cool Matty

2015-10-21 08:51:42 pm

Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.

Quote from mashystrr:

How will it work for situations where runners need to be sorted out? Will we need to decide as soon as the final game list is posted or will there be time to properly evaluate who should run the game? If the latter, I'm assuming we'd all register as runners and when the decision is made, whoever isn't running the game would have to pay the difference at that point.

Runners will be sorted out before the final game list is posted. The final game list is, for all intents and purposes, a schedule without any ordering. Tongue

Rakshaal

2015-10-21 08:52:35 pm

Just a question: My run was waitlisted for not having a video, I'm trying to get my equipment set up to record a half decent run but I haven't run the game in a bit so I'm rusty at the moment. I can probably get a video up by this week, would that be okay? The submission is for Eternal Darkness under the same name.

akc12

2015-10-21 09:48:09 pm

I would like to withdraw my F-Zero GX submissions. Don't feel like it's worth going if pretty much everyone from the F-Zero community aren't going this year.

PEACHES_

2015-10-21 11:38:17 pm

I'm just trying to impress you.

hi,

could I get some feedback on my rejections. Armored core, typing of the dead, and fantasy zone were all denied last gdq, and when I asked about them then I was told they were all great submissions but the committee just happened to pick toejam and earl out of my submissions since they were cutting back on runners having multiple games. I'd like to know if there's some way to improve their likelihood of acceptance or if it would be a waste of time to submit them a third time. thanks Smiley

Azurinel

2015-10-22 01:19:14 am

There is hardly ever a case in which it is a waste of time to submit. The only case I can think of is a joke submission. In my opinion, to get accepted you need a good pitch, a good video, and a good game (or awful). It sounds like the committee thinks you have the latter covered. I have no idea how your pitches or videos are, but advice for a video with any game is to either submit a video from a different marathon or make a video of a run where you commentated like it is a marathon.

Take that with a grain of salt since I've never made it to the true final list, haha. I just don't think you should consider it a waste of time.

UchihaSasuke

2015-10-22 02:11:32 am

Stand: Devil's Call in your Heart

Quote from akc12:

I would like to withdraw my F-Zero GX submissions. Don't feel like it's worth going if pretty much everyone from the F-Zero community aren't going this year.

looks like i'll be alone again if FZX gets accepted.

well, at least i know other communities a bit.

jemballs

2015-10-22 02:13:22 am

My Glitchless Portal run was waitlisted with the comment: "Is glitchless a commonly accepted category?"

It is, leaderboards are here: http://www.speedrun.com/Portal#Glitchless

Is there any way to get those who decide which runs get through to take another look at my entry?

Thanks!

PEACHES_

2015-10-22 02:24:29 am

I'm just trying to impress you.

Quote from Azurinel:

There is hardly ever a case in which it is a waste of time to submit. The only case I can think of is a joke submission. In my opinion, to get accepted you need a good pitch, a good video, and a good game (or awful). It sounds like the committee thinks you have the latter covered. I have no idea how your pitches or videos are, but advice for a video with any game is to either submit a video from a different marathon or make a video of a run where you commentated like it is a marathon.

Take that with a grain of salt since I've never made it to the true final list, haha. I just don't think you should consider it a waste of time.

Appreciate the reply, it was mostly just a figure of speech. However, knowing that a game just isn't marathon friendly is really helpful, especially since I run a lot of games and stuck to submitting the ones I myself liked the most at the time. Going from "great submissions" to first round blowout seems like a disconnect so if there IS a chance for these games I'm more interested in knowing how I can improve them. 3 of my videos had no commentary so that's a reasonable suggestion; if that was the case, that's a good example of actionable feedback that I'd like to get from the committee.

[quote="Azurinel"]There is hardly ever a case in which it is a waste of time to submit. The only case I can think of is a joke submission. In my opinion, to get accepted you need a good pitch, a good video, and a good game (or awful). It sounds like the committee thinks you have the latter covered. I have no idea how your pitches or videos are, but advice for a video with any game is to either submit a video from a different marathon or make a video of a run where you commentated like it is a marathon.

Take that with a grain of salt since I've never made it to the true final list, haha. I just don't think you should consider it a waste of time.
[/quote]
 
Appreciate the reply, it was mostly just a figure of speech. However, knowing that a game just isn't marathon friendly is really helpful, especially since I run a lot of games and stuck to submitting the ones I myself liked the most at the time. Going from "great submissions" to first round blowout seems like a disconnect so if there IS a chance for these games I'm more interested in knowing how I can improve them. 3 of my videos had no commentary so that's a reasonable suggestion; if that was the case, that's a good example of actionable feedback that I'd like to get from the committee.

Sir VG

2015-10-22 02:33:55 am

Fucking Weeaboo

Quote from PEACHES_:

Quote from Azurinel:

There is hardly ever a case in which it is a waste of time to submit. The only case I can think of is a joke submission. In my opinion, to get accepted you need a good pitch, a good video, and a good game (or awful). It sounds like the committee thinks you have the latter covered. I have no idea how your pitches or videos are, but advice for a video with any game is to either submit a video from a different marathon or make a video of a run where you commentated like it is a marathon.

Take that with a grain of salt since I've never made it to the true final list, haha. I just don't think you should consider it a waste of time.

Appreciate the reply, it was mostly just a figure of speech. However, knowing that a game just isn't marathon friendly is really helpful, especially since I run a lot of games and stuck to submitting the ones I myself liked the most at the time. Going from "great submissions" to first round blowout seems like a disconnect so if there IS a chance for these games I'm more interested in knowing how I can improve them. 3 of my videos had no commentary so that's a reasonable suggestion; if that was the case, that's a good example of actionable feedback that I'd like to get from the committee.

Typing of the Dead was awesome at SGDQ 2012. It totally needs to make a return.

[quote="PEACHES_"][quote="Azurinel"]There is hardly ever a case in which it is a waste of time to submit. The only case I can think of is a joke submission. In my opinion, to get accepted you need a good pitch, a good video, and a good game (or awful). It sounds like the committee thinks you have the latter covered. I have no idea how your pitches or videos are, but advice for a video with any game is to either submit a video from a different marathon or make a video of a run where you commentated like it is a marathon.

Take that with a grain of salt since I've never made it to the true final list, haha. I just don't think you should consider it a waste of time.
[/quote]
 
Appreciate the reply, it was mostly just a figure of speech. However, knowing that a game just isn't marathon friendly is really helpful, especially since I run a lot of games and stuck to submitting the ones I myself liked the most at the time. Going from "great submissions" to first round blowout seems like a disconnect so if there IS a chance for these games I'm more interested in knowing how I can improve them. 3 of my videos had no commentary so that's a reasonable suggestion; if that was the case, that's a good example of actionable feedback that I'd like to get from the committee. [/quote]

Typing of the Dead was awesome at SGDQ 2012. It totally needs to make a return.

hugo4fun

2015-10-22 05:43:11 am

The bigger, the better.

One question: The GDQ site shows 1,398 entries. Those are the total submissions (reject/passing/waitlist/bonus) or something else?

z1mb0bw4y

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z1mb0bw4y: 2015-10-22 09:28:09 am

2015-10-22 06:26:45 am

Gets the cake.

Quote from jemballs:

My Glitchless Portal run was waitlisted with the comment: "Is glitchless a commonly accepted category?"

It is, leaderboards are here: http://www.speedrun.com/Portal#Glitchless

Is there any way to get those who decide which runs get through to take another look at my entry?

Thanks!

I don't mean to be rude, and this is certainly not any sort of official decision on the part of GDQ or anything, but that category has had ~20 runners (edit: how does scrolling work? *cough*) ever compared to the ~250 of inbounds and ~80 of OoB. Not to mention the disparity between even the top 3 runners in glitchless is IMMENSE just shows that it's not popular enough to have been properly routed or optimized yet. If you're up to that challenge, then I understand, but Portal has a history of being a very fast, broken, whirlwind of action in the GDQs and I don't know that I feel glitchless provides that.

jemballs

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jemballs: 2015-10-22 06:48:49 am

jemballs: 2015-10-22 06:48:35 am

2015-10-22 06:43:26 am

Quote from z1mb0bw4y:

Quote from jemballs:

My Glitchless Portal run was waitlisted with the comment: "Is glitchless a commonly accepted category?"

It is, leaderboards are here: http://www.speedrun.com/Portal#Glitchless

Is there any way to get those who decide which runs get through to take another look at my entry?

Thanks!

I don't mean to be rude, and this is certainly not any sort of official decision on the part of GDQ or anything, but that category has had ~20 runners ever compared to the ~250 of inbounds and ~80 of OoB. Not to mention the disparity between even the top 3 runners in glitchless is IMMENSE just shows that it's not popular enough to have been properly routed or optimized yet. If you're up to that challenge, then I understand, but Portal has a history of being a very fast, broken, whirlwind of action in the GDQs and I don't know that I feel glitchless provides that.

OoB has 78 runners and Glitchless has 60 - certainly a smaller pool and definitely less optimized than the other categories. I think Glitchless would be a great run at a GDQ because those who do not run Portal literally can't follow a single thing that is happening on the screen in an OoB run, and are only slightly less confused in a No OoB run. Glitchless is still quite quick, non-runners would still have a hard time following what's going on (but would likely comprehend much more), the skips in Glitchless can be quite creative (an audience of non-Portal runners might find them amusing (using cameras to jam doors and prop boxes on)), with some visually impressive flings (turret room skip before GLaDOS). Also: Never been done at a GDQ, and could be interesting to viewers.

Anyway, everything you say is pretty much accurate, and probably explains why there hasn't been a glitchless run before hand. But I still feel Glitchless could be an enjoyable run for viewers at a GDQ, and hey, it might get more people running the category.

Thanks for the feedback!

EDIT: Also, this beautiful segmented run (Not that my runs are even remotely this entertaining :D)

[quote="z1mb0bw4y"][quote="jemballs"]My Glitchless Portal run was waitlisted with the comment: "Is glitchless a commonly accepted category?"

It is, leaderboards are here: http://www.speedrun.com/Portal#Glitchless

Is there any way to get those who decide which runs get through to take another look at my entry?

Thanks![/quote]

I don't mean to be rude, and this is certainly not any sort of official decision on the part of GDQ or anything, but that category has had ~20 runners ever compared to the ~250 of inbounds and ~80 of OoB. Not to mention the disparity between even the top 3 runners in glitchless is IMMENSE just shows that it's not popular enough to have been properly routed or optimized yet. If you're up to that challenge, then I understand, but Portal has a history of being a very fast, broken, whirlwind of action in the GDQs and I don't know that I feel glitchless provides that.[/quote]

OoB has 78 runners and Glitchless has 60 - certainly a smaller pool and definitely less optimized than the other categories. I think Glitchless would be a great run at a GDQ because those who do not run Portal literally can't follow a single thing that is happening on the screen in an OoB run, and are only slightly less confused in a No OoB run. Glitchless is still quite quick, non-runners would still have a hard time following what's going on (but would likely comprehend much more), the skips in Glitchless can be quite creative (an audience of non-Portal runners might find them amusing (using cameras to jam doors and prop boxes on)), with some visually impressive flings (turret room skip before GLaDOS). Also: Never been done at a GDQ, and could be interesting to viewers.

Anyway, everything you say is pretty much accurate, and probably explains why there hasn't been a glitchless run before hand. But I still feel Glitchless could be an enjoyable run for viewers at a GDQ, and hey, it might get more people running the category.

Thanks for the feedback!

EDIT: Also, this beautiful segmented run (Not that my runs are even remotely this entertaining :D)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5qptMYOMCg

johncarls

2015-10-22 12:25:09 pm

Quote from jemballs:

Quote from z1mb0bw4y:

Quote from jemballs:

My Glitchless Portal run was waitlisted with the comment: "Is glitchless a commonly accepted category?"

It is, leaderboards are here: http://www.speedrun.com/Portal#Glitchless

Is there any way to get those who decide which runs get through to take another look at my entry?

Thanks!

I don't mean to be rude, and this is certainly not any sort of official decision on the part of GDQ or anything, but that category has had ~20 runners ever compared to the ~250 of inbounds and ~80 of OoB. Not to mention the disparity between even the top 3 runners in glitchless is IMMENSE just shows that it's not popular enough to have been properly routed or optimized yet. If you're up to that challenge, then I understand, but Portal has a history of being a very fast, broken, whirlwind of action in the GDQs and I don't know that I feel glitchless provides that.

OoB has 78 runners and Glitchless has 60 - certainly a smaller pool and definitely less optimized than the other categories. I think Glitchless would be a great run at a GDQ because those who do not run Portal literally can't follow a single thing that is happening on the screen in an OoB run, and are only slightly less confused in a No OoB run. Glitchless is still quite quick, non-runners would still have a hard time following what's going on (but would likely comprehend much more), the skips in Glitchless can be quite creative (an audience of non-Portal runners might find them amusing (using cameras to jam doors and prop boxes on)), with some visually impressive flings (turret room skip before GLaDOS). Also: Never been done at a GDQ, and could be interesting to viewers.

Anyway, everything you say is pretty much accurate, and probably explains why there hasn't been a glitchless run before hand. But I still feel Glitchless could be an enjoyable run for viewers at a GDQ, and hey, it might get more people running the category.

Thanks for the feedback!

EDIT: Also, this beautiful segmented run (Not that my runs are even remotely this entertaining :D)

I just wanted to comment that I definitely do think glitchless runs have a place in GDQ's (this isn't because I have one waitlisted as well, haha, though I could see the lack of bias).

Some games are so broken that you lose the experience of the game. This is why the fastest categories in such games as LTTP and SMW are not really the main games of the community. People do want to experience the game. I have never played Portal, which seems like an awesome game, and I would definitely enjoy watching a glitchless run of it at a GDQ. Just my thoughts Smiley

Maybe I'm in the minority.

[quote="jemballs"][quote="z1mb0bw4y"][quote="jemballs"]My Glitchless Portal run was waitlisted with the comment: "Is glitchless a commonly accepted category?"

It is, leaderboards are here: http://www.speedrun.com/Portal#Glitchless

Is there any way to get those who decide which runs get through to take another look at my entry?

Thanks![/quote]

I don't mean to be rude, and this is certainly not any sort of official decision on the part of GDQ or anything, but that category has had ~20 runners ever compared to the ~250 of inbounds and ~80 of OoB. Not to mention the disparity between even the top 3 runners in glitchless is IMMENSE just shows that it's not popular enough to have been properly routed or optimized yet. If you're up to that challenge, then I understand, but Portal has a history of being a very fast, broken, whirlwind of action in the GDQs and I don't know that I feel glitchless provides that.[/quote]

OoB has 78 runners and Glitchless has 60 - certainly a smaller pool and definitely less optimized than the other categories. I think Glitchless would be a great run at a GDQ because those who do not run Portal literally can't follow a single thing that is happening on the screen in an OoB run, and are only slightly less confused in a No OoB run. Glitchless is still quite quick, non-runners would still have a hard time following what's going on (but would likely comprehend much more), the skips in Glitchless can be quite creative (an audience of non-Portal runners might find them amusing (using cameras to jam doors and prop boxes on)), with some visually impressive flings (turret room skip before GLaDOS). Also: Never been done at a GDQ, and could be interesting to viewers.

Anyway, everything you say is pretty much accurate, and probably explains why there hasn't been a glitchless run before hand. But I still feel Glitchless could be an enjoyable run for viewers at a GDQ, and hey, it might get more people running the category.

Thanks for the feedback!

EDIT: Also, this beautiful segmented run (Not that my runs are even remotely this entertaining :D)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5qptMYOMCg [/quote]

I just wanted to comment that I definitely do think glitchless runs have a place in GDQ's (this isn't because I have one waitlisted as well, haha, though I could see the lack of bias).

Some games are so broken that you lose the experience of the game. This is why the fastest categories in such games as LTTP and SMW are not really the main games of the community. People do want to experience the game. I have never played Portal, which seems like an awesome game, and I would definitely enjoy watching a glitchless run of it at a GDQ. Just my thoughts :) Maybe I'm in the minority.

The Master

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The Master: 2015-10-22 03:56:41 pm

2015-10-22 03:55:19 pm

As somebody that has gone through both games and since I see an opportunity to do so I will back up gemballs here as a viewer myself that has... attempted to watch the OOB run in past GDQ's.

Personally, I can't stand watching the OOB run. It is insanely confusing and almost seems like it is pointless to play the game like that because you aren't really playing the game, just firing into random points in a void, at least from the viewer's perspective. I made an audible groan when I saw an OOB Portal run progressing again. I would be far, far more interested in seeing an inbounds run finally happen. Using physics objects to jam doors and propping up boxes, something with which I am familiar when I was doing the least portal challenges I would very much like to see. If I ever tried to speedrun the game I would go for that category myself and stay far away from the OOB one.

TheMG2

2015-10-22 03:59:21 pm

Quote from The Master:

I would be far, far more interested in seeing an inbounds run finally happen.

fyi the majority of portal appearances have been inbounds. Unless you meant to say glitchless, but that doesn't really fit your post either.

The Master

2015-10-23 12:17:21 am

Looking it back up SGDQ 2014 is the one I remember the most, I think. There is a lot of OOB used there which I found pretty confusing to watch. I think I missed or at least forgot the AGDQ 2015 race, skimming it doesn't seem to be any OOB? Either way, I wasn't really into watching the OOB stuff in that SGDQ 2014 race is all I wanted to say, so I would prefer to see it done all inbounds again.

ShiningFace

2015-10-23 11:43:42 am

Put on the shelves since 2012

For the Diablo (1996) speedrun, funkmaster and I were discussing doing a race of set seed any% in order for us both to be able to get the run in. Would this be acceptable for us to try to do?

PixelKaye

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PixelKaye: 2015-10-23 09:49:35 pm

2015-10-23 09:49:14 pm

Very Thanks..!!

After sitting on it for a few days, I'm going to step down from the Blaster Master race at AGDQ.
This is by no means against GDQ, Matty, or anyone else, it's just a matter of budgeting finances and not having PTO for the week of the AGDQ event plus working as staff for MAGFest at the end of February.
We're going to have some damn good runners in that race no matter who goes in it, and I'm proud to be one of the oldest members of the BM community and to see that there's actually going to be a race of it at a GDQ event is just fantastic.

jemballs

2015-10-26 04:32:57 am

Woo! I've been set to "Progress". Thanks!

HerculesBenchpress

2015-10-26 08:25:08 am

I noticed that the final cuts due date you had set for yourself has been changed. Does that mean it is gonna take a little extra time to get everything sorted out for the final games list? If so, does that affect the registration open date of the 28th, or will registration still open around that time?

Jaguar King

2015-10-26 09:35:17 am

Quote from Jaguar King:

I would like to know why Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake was rejected for the third time in GDQ event? although the first one was accepted on SGDQ2015, the second one is much better game in almost everything than the first one, so I was surprised it got rejected again after showing the first one

also I would like to know why Vampire Killer the MSX version got rejected too? this is the fourth time the game got rejected I would like to know the reason.

still waiting for an answer

sumichu

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sumichu: 2015-10-26 02:26:34 pm

2015-10-26 01:47:57 pm

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Hi guys, quick update.

Mike has been working really hard on organizing things for AGDQ, and we've been told he needs to rest. We'll have games list done ASAP given this new development and will provide updates as they become available.

Registration will not open until the games list is finished, and runners will still have seven (7) days from the day it's released to register as an attendee.

EDIT: If Mike isn't feeling well by the end of this week, the committee will take over to finish up.