AGDQ 2016 Game Submissions Information (Submissions are now closed)

2015-10-11 06:32:45 pm

Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.

Is anyone actually seeing "Summer Games Done Quick" anywhere still? I thought I fixed that last night, but it was 3AM, so maybe I was mistaken?

Gamesforcharity

2015-10-11 06:33:42 pm

GFC_

Quote from Cool Matty:

Is anyone actually seeing "Summer Games Done Quick" anywhere still? I thought I fixed that last night, but it was 3AM, so maybe I was mistaken?

Still shows up under "My Submissions".

VeritasDL

2015-10-11 06:33:45 pm

Fraudulent World Records

Quote from Cool Matty:

Is anyone actually seeing "Summer Games Done Quick" anywhere still? I thought I fixed that last night, but it was 3AM, so maybe I was mistaken?

under https://gamesdonequick.com/submission/

Cool Matty

2015-10-11 06:39:00 pm

Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.

Doh, I realized why I didn't see that one, only visible to non-admins. Go me. Fix is pushing. And no, did not affect anyone's submissions, just a visual error.

Radman

2015-10-11 06:40:35 pm

For Fun! For GLORY!!

Damn. Rejected as well. No one really felt Xenoblade apparently.
Maybe SGDQ?

sumichu

2015-10-11 06:46:34 pm

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Quote from Gamesforcharity:

Quote from sumichu:

With regards to Yu-Gi-Oh!, it's not a bias against the game in particular, but card games in general tend to require an understanding of the rules and intricacies of the game, which a large majority of the GDQ audience wouldn't have (as a reminder, the GDQ stream audience isn't limited to just the speedrun community).

A similar game that has been submitted (and declined for the same reason) is the Pokemon CCG.

I very much agree with you. And you would think that a Yu-Gi-Oh! game would fall under those guidelines. However, the game was released in 1999, before the card game you are thinking of existed. Therefore, it does not follow a specific ruleset. This is why the run at ESA (and everywhere else) is so popular; it has no rules, and can be instantly understood with commentary.

I feel like you are operating under the assumption that everyone knows how CCGs in general work, much less Yu-Gi-Oh! specifically, and that is absolutely not the case.

I'm watching one of your runs right now, and one could argue that a very large amount of the audience would not understand what is happening (cards going sideways, why the cards are being placed where they are, cards being thrown down, cards morphing together, celestial symbols, elements), making it hard to follow along.

[quote="Gamesforcharity"][quote="sumichu"]With regards to Yu-Gi-Oh!, it's not a bias against the game in particular, but card games in general tend to require an understanding of the rules and intricacies of the game, which a large majority of the GDQ audience wouldn't have (as a reminder, the GDQ stream audience isn't limited to just the speedrun community).

A similar game that has been submitted (and declined for the same reason) is the Pokemon CCG.[/quote]

I very much agree with you. And you would think that a Yu-Gi-Oh! game would fall under those guidelines. However, the game was released in 1999, before the card game you are thinking of existed. Therefore, it does not follow a specific ruleset. This is why the run at ESA (and everywhere else) is so popular; it has no rules, and can be instantly understood with commentary.[/quote]

I feel like you are operating under the assumption that everyone knows how CCGs in general work, much less Yu-Gi-Oh! specifically, and that is absolutely not the case.

I'm watching one of your runs right now, and one could argue that a very large amount of the audience would not understand what is happening (cards going sideways, why the cards are being placed where they are, cards being thrown down, cards morphing together, celestial symbols, elements), making it hard to follow along.

Gamesforcharity

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Gamesforcharity: 2015-10-11 06:52:33 pm

2015-10-11 06:51:26 pm

GFC_

Quote from sumichu:

Quote from Gamesforcharity:

Quote from sumichu:

With regards to Yu-Gi-Oh!, it's not a bias against the game in particular, but card games in general tend to require an understanding of the rules and intricacies of the game, which a large majority of the GDQ audience wouldn't have (as a reminder, the GDQ stream audience isn't limited to just the speedrun community).

A similar game that has been submitted (and declined for the same reason) is the Pokemon CCG.

I very much agree with you. And you would think that a Yu-Gi-Oh! game would fall under those guidelines. However, the game was released in 1999, before the card game you are thinking of existed. Therefore, it does not follow a specific ruleset. This is why the run at ESA (and everywhere else) is so popular; it has no rules, and can be instantly understood with commentary.

I feel like you are operating under the assumption that everyone knows how CCGs in general work, much less Yu-Gi-Oh! specifically, and that is absolutely not the case.

I'm watching one of your runs right now, and one could argue that a very large amount of the audience would not understand what is happening (cards going sideways, why the cards are being placed where they are, cards being thrown down, cards morphing together, celestial symbols, elements), making it hard to follow along.

But again, these things that people do not understand are extremely small. With good commentary, all of these things can be described within a minute. There are less rules than meets the eye to the run you are watching, and it would be incredibly easy for me and for SSBMstuff (along with others on the couch) to commentate exactly what is happening and why. I do not and have never played card games in my life other than this game, and I found it very easy to follow provided commentary was given (watching SSBMstuff in 2013).

I myself do not know how CCGs work. I only know how my game works, and it is very simple and easy to explain.

I like to think I am incredibly good at explaining my own game in simple terms everyone can understand. I can very easily do this at AGDQ, along with SSBMstuff.

[quote="sumichu"][quote="Gamesforcharity"][quote="sumichu"]With regards to Yu-Gi-Oh!, it's not a bias against the game in particular, but card games in general tend to require an understanding of the rules and intricacies of the game, which a large majority of the GDQ audience wouldn't have (as a reminder, the GDQ stream audience isn't limited to just the speedrun community).

A similar game that has been submitted (and declined for the same reason) is the Pokemon CCG.[/quote]

I very much agree with you. And you would think that a Yu-Gi-Oh! game would fall under those guidelines. However, the game was released in 1999, before the card game you are thinking of existed. Therefore, it does not follow a specific ruleset. This is why the run at ESA (and everywhere else) is so popular; it has no rules, and can be instantly understood with commentary.[/quote]

I feel like you are operating under the assumption that everyone knows how CCGs in general work, much less Yu-Gi-Oh! specifically, and that is absolutely not the case.

I'm watching one of your runs right now, and one could argue that a very large amount of the audience would not understand what is happening (cards going sideways, why the cards are being placed where they are, cards being thrown down, cards morphing together, celestial symbols, elements), making it hard to follow along.[/quote]

But again, these things that people do not understand are extremely small. With good commentary, all of these things can be described within a minute. There are less rules than meets the eye to the run you are watching, and it would be incredibly easy for me and for SSBMstuff (along with others on the couch) to commentate exactly what is happening and why. I do not and have never played card games in my life other than this game, and I found it very easy to follow provided commentary was given (watching SSBMstuff in 2013).

I myself do not know how CCGs work. I only know how my game works, and it is very simple and easy to explain.

I like to think I am incredibly good at explaining my own game in simple terms everyone can understand. I can very easily do this at AGDQ, along with SSBMstuff.

coolmath10

2015-10-11 07:15:03 pm

So can I assume that the submissions are not looked through in the order they were submitted? I'm seeing submissions by people that I know submitted after me, and I am still pending Tongue

rowrow_

2015-10-11 07:16:09 pm

no more umbreons pls

Quote from coolmath10:

So can I assume that the submissions are not looked through in the order they were submitted? I'm seeing submissions by people that I know submitted after me, and I am still pending Tongue

There's a good chance your case is being investigated a little more closely, or maybe it's been assigned by someone on the GDQ team who is currently occupied

MURPHAGATOR!

2015-10-11 07:16:17 pm

Terraffirmative!

We appreciate your enthusiasm for your game, GFC, but at this point it is not a good fit for AGDQ. We are going to consider this particular game closed, so further discussion on it will just be deleted and ignored.

Coolmath: correct, sometimes games are skipped over while more information is being found or waiting for responses from others. As long as your submissions are on https://gamesdonequick.com/submission, they will be considered eventually.

coolmath10

2015-10-11 07:16:39 pm

ok thanks

sumichu

2015-10-11 07:22:53 pm

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Reminder: Once you submit your games, you can't add more games or edit any run info. Do NOT submit your games until you are ready to submit all of them.

We will not allow you to edit your runs after you hit submit.

xcd

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xcd: 2015-10-11 07:25:19 pm

xcd: 2015-10-11 07:23:53 pm

2015-10-11 07:23:11 pm

Cube Throw = OoB

i like having fun with my portal submission bc I think large paragraphs of submissions are really dumb and useless. i honestly think nothing i say in my submission will have any effect on whether my run gets into the marathon or not (i dont care either way)

i actually think they should be thrown out in the future and the run should speak for itself.

rowrow_

2015-10-11 07:31:49 pm

no more umbreons pls

Quote from xcd:

i actually think they should be thrown out in the future and the run should speak for itself.

This notion prevents growth I feel. If you're playing a game that needs no explanation then sure, no need to drop a dime on what it's about, but for other games that might not otherwise be self-explanatory descriptions are 100% necessary.

epicallytossed

2015-10-11 08:01:07 pm

Can someone just tell me how do I submit a game if I'm under 16? I talked to a staff member at sgdq 2015 and they said I could but I cannot figure out how.

Cool Matty

2015-10-11 08:23:28 pm

Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.

Quote from epicallytossed:

Can someone just tell me how do I submit a game if I'm under 16? I talked to a staff member at sgdq 2015 and they said I could but I cannot figure out how.

We talked it over internally, and the best option would be to have your parent/guardian make an account and submit for you. Make sure to specify that in your submission so we're aware. They will need to register and pay like any runner, and they would need to attend the event with you.

Glaedr

2015-10-11 10:05:18 pm

Quote from honorableJay:

Is there any specific reason why my submission for DMC Devil May Cry was rejected yet Devil May Cry 3 and 4 were accepted? Was it simply because mine came in afterwards and it was considered too many Devil May Cry games or because Aphox ran the game at ESA (in a completely different category)?

It's a bit of a slap in the face to see a game with this submission, "hahaha look at this tommy pickles lookin' idiot http://imgur.com/FlVVR0A btw im still good at this game," get past round 1 simply because the game is Portal. Yet my submission, which I put time in to try and describe the run, gets immediately rejected with no reason.

I'm obviously not GDQ staff, but DMC 3 and 4 are extremely well-known games loved by their playerbase. I know they don't just accept games based on this fact, but it's likely taken into account. Both DMC 3 and DMC 4 have changed considerably as speedruns over their last showings at a GDQ and many new things will be brought to the table with either new strategies for DMC 3 or using one of the new characters for DMC 4.

[quote="honorableJay"]Is there any specific reason why my submission for DMC Devil May Cry was rejected yet Devil May Cry 3 and 4 were accepted? Was it simply because mine came in afterwards and it was considered too many Devil May Cry games or because Aphox ran the game at ESA (in a completely different category)?

It's a bit of a slap in the face to see a game with this submission, "hahaha look at this tommy pickles lookin' idiot http://imgur.com/FlVVR0A btw im still good at this game," get past round 1 simply because the game is Portal. Yet my submission, which I put time in to try and describe the run, gets immediately rejected with no reason. [/quote]
I'm obviously not GDQ staff, but DMC 3 and 4 are extremely well-known games loved by their playerbase. I know they don't just accept games based on this fact, but it's likely taken into account. Both DMC 3 and DMC 4 have changed considerably as speedruns over their last showings at a GDQ and many new things will be brought to the table with either new strategies for DMC 3 or using one of the new characters for DMC 4.

Shunpuk

2015-10-11 10:14:45 pm

:-)

why did my mel gibson's safari 3 submission get deleted Undecided

ChaoticAce

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ChaoticAce: 2015-10-11 11:36:10 pm

2015-10-11 11:26:21 pm

I am interested in showing off a TAS of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker at AGDQ. It is extremely different from RTA runs and has insane TAS only tricks. I would have two if not three other well-informed people with me capable of providing more than enough information to explain everything and make it super informative. The fastest (and only completed) full game TAS is nearly an hour faster than the current RTA record. It did not use the Tingle Tuner, an item that requires a connection to a Gameboy Advance (SP) and saves a significant amount of time. There is a high possibility of a TAS using the Tingle Tuner being completed by then. That plus an improved route would be used which would put the TAS run at under 3 hours.

I'm wondering if something like this has any chance at all of getting in and if so, who I would need to talk to.

Sir VG

2015-10-11 11:40:19 pm

Fucking Weeaboo

Quote from ChaoticAce:

I am interested in showing off a TAS of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker at AGDQ. It is extremely different from RTA runs and has insane TAS only tricks. I would have two if not three other well-informed people with me capable of providing more than enough information to explain everything and make it super informative. The fastest (and only completed) full game TAS is nearly an hour faster than the current RTA record. It did not use the Tingle Tuner, an item that requires a connection to a Gameboy Advance (SP) and saves a significant amount of time. There is a high possibility of a TAS using the Tingle Tuner being completed by then. That plus an improved route would be used which would put the TAS run at under 3 hours.

I'm wondering if something like this has any chance at all of getting in and if so, who I would need to talk to.

We do generally have a TAS block, but not of 3 hours. They generally focus on small stuff. Thread for stuff for the marathon goes on over at the TASVideos forum.

[quote="ChaoticAce"]I am interested in showing off a TAS of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker at AGDQ. It is extremely different from RTA runs and has insane TAS only tricks. I would have two if not three other well-informed people with me capable of providing more than enough information to explain everything and make it super informative. The fastest (and only completed) full game TAS is nearly an hour faster than the current RTA record. It did not use the Tingle Tuner, an item that requires a connection to a Gameboy Advance (SP) and saves a significant amount of time. There is a high possibility of a TAS using the Tingle Tuner being completed by then. That plus an improved route would be used which would put the TAS run at under 3 hours.

I'm wondering if something like this has any chance at all of getting in and if so, who I would need to talk to. 
[/quote]

We do generally have a TAS block, but not of 3 hours. They generally focus on small stuff. Thread for stuff for the marathon goes on over at the TASVideos forum.

ChaoticAce

2015-10-11 11:55:26 pm

Quote from Sir VG:

Quote from ChaoticAce:

I am interested in showing off a TAS of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker at AGDQ. It is extremely different from RTA runs and has insane TAS only tricks. I would have two if not three other well-informed people with me capable of providing more than enough information to explain everything and make it super informative. The fastest (and only completed) full game TAS is nearly an hour faster than the current RTA record. It did not use the Tingle Tuner, an item that requires a connection to a Gameboy Advance (SP) and saves a significant amount of time. There is a high possibility of a TAS using the Tingle Tuner being completed by then. That plus an improved route would be used which would put the TAS run at under 3 hours.

I'm wondering if something like this has any chance at all of getting in and if so, who I would need to talk to.

We do generally have a TAS block, but not of 3 hours. They generally focus on small stuff. Thread for stuff for the marathon goes on over at the TASVideos forum.

Any chance I could have a link to the thread for this?

[quote="Sir VG"][quote="ChaoticAce"]I am interested in showing off a TAS of The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker at AGDQ. It is extremely different from RTA runs and has insane TAS only tricks. I would have two if not three other well-informed people with me capable of providing more than enough information to explain everything and make it super informative. The fastest (and only completed) full game TAS is nearly an hour faster than the current RTA record. It did not use the Tingle Tuner, an item that requires a connection to a Gameboy Advance (SP) and saves a significant amount of time. There is a high possibility of a TAS using the Tingle Tuner being completed by then. That plus an improved route would be used which would put the TAS run at under 3 hours.

I'm wondering if something like this has any chance at all of getting in and if so, who I would need to talk to. 
[/quote]

We do generally have a TAS block, but not of 3 hours. They generally focus on small stuff. Thread for stuff for the marathon goes on over at the TASVideos forum.[/quote]

Any chance I could have a link to the thread for this?

mt76907

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mt76907: 2015-10-12 12:39:37 am

2015-10-12 12:37:04 am

Here's your solution to the "rejected but what the community really wants to see" problem.

Allocate, say, 4 hours as a Community Choice Block. After round 1 or 2 of cuts or whatever, allow the runners that submitted runs a day or two to vote to save rejected runs, each person's total time of vote to save runs < 4 hours OR a maximum of 2/3/whatever runs, whichever is less time.

This corrects for:
A) Unavoidable committee oversight of a few "deserving"/good runs
B) Community feeling ignored in the selection process
C) Whether a run is actually strongly supported and not just an organized vocal minority

This happens EVERY GDQ, multiple people campaigning for a game or two they feel got slighted, let's end it.

Bismuth

2015-10-12 12:54:37 am

Worthless categories WR master

Wow this is actually a very good idea. 4 hours is a very reasonable slot too in my opinion. Not overly complicated to organize either. I support this idea, and I clearly would not personally profit from it.

TheMG2

2015-10-12 01:02:37 am

Quote from mt76907:

Here's your solution to the "rejected but what the community really wants to see" problem.

Allocate, say, 4 hours as a Community Choice Block. After round 1 or 2 of cuts or whatever, allow the runners that submitted runs a day or two to vote to save rejected runs, each person's total time of vote to save runs < 4 hours OR a maximum of 2/3/whatever runs, whichever is less time.

This corrects for:
A) Unavoidable committee oversight of a few "deserving"/good runs
B) Community feeling ignored in the selection process
C) Whether a run is actually strongly supported and not just an organized vocal minority

This happens EVERY GDQ, multiple people campaigning for a game or two they feel got slighted, let's end it.

I'm assuming you would be unable to vote for your own run correct?

mt76907

2015-10-12 01:09:27 am

Quote from TheMG2:

Quote from mt76907:

Here's your solution to the "rejected but what the community really wants to see" problem.

Allocate, say, 4 hours as a Community Choice Block. After round 1 or 2 of cuts or whatever, allow the runners that submitted runs a day or two to vote to save rejected runs, each person's total time of vote to save runs < 4 hours OR a maximum of 2/3/whatever runs, whichever is less time.

This corrects for:
A) Unavoidable committee oversight of a few "deserving"/good runs
B) Community feeling ignored in the selection process
C) Whether a run is actually strongly supported and not just an organized vocal minority

This happens EVERY GDQ, multiple people campaigning for a game or two they feel got slighted, let's end it.

I'm assuming you would be unable to vote for your own run correct?

Sure, I'd personally consider you submitting a run as a sort of de facto vote to begin with.
You have to nominate yourself, in other words.