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Hey once again.

2 days ago after many tries I improved my time by 10 min, now its 3:17:35 (so far no highlight because twitch muted part of the run, already emailed them, just have to wait) all other runs I played died around chapter 3 when game crash pretty often for me.

In this run and others I was doing, I turned off auto-saving thanks to this I saved 1-3 sec each time game saved, and also tried few new strats, but well none of them worked hehe (I mean Golem fast kill without dying and Hierofant escort mission)
Other then that, run was bad. I died many times (during golem fight) 8 tries on getting inside Shani house in chapter 2, and game crashed in new place. Usually it crash during Alving quest, or when I go to kill mutant in Old Vizima, but not it crashed during dinking cutscene after saving Alvin. I just have to save really often in chapter 3, its the only place where game crash. I hope I will find solution to crashing . . .

I also tried working really hard on getting constant super speed. What I learn so far is, each time you save and reload, you have chance to be faster or slower then before, if you save WITH sword in your hand, usually in 2 or 3 reload you will be faster. If you save with sword, change the place (you must see loading screen) and reload, it have better chance to speed up geralt.
After the run, I came up with new way, after any fight save and reload, and then geralt should always move fast. I tried it twice, and I think it worked, but still need to test this more.

That all for now, later. When I get little more free time, I will share my route here with notes what and why I'm doing this or that.
Hey everyone,

I would be really interested in running this game, I love the witcher series and I think it could be fun. By reading what we already have, I think we already have a pretty good run thanks to Senvy and if you can post it here I will surely try to run it.
I have to download the game again but I think it can be glitched without much danger, so I will take some time searching for glitches, I will tell you here if I find something.
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Senvy: 2015-03-21 01:32:14 am
Quote from CaptainFrite:
Hey everyone,

I would be really interested in running this game, I love the witcher series and I think it could be fun. By reading what we already have, I think we already have a pretty good run thanks to Senvy and if you can post it here I will surely try to run it.
I have to download the game again but I think it can be glitched without much danger, so I will take some time searching for glitches, I will tell you here if I find something.


There are some glitch in this game, but none of them are used in run. Still it will be nice to see other person speedrunning this game.

Here are my notes, I will try to write them simple and clean



Know problems
Game like to crash, in at least few places. For me it ALWAYS happend somewhere in chapter 3 and later in chapter 5 when you try leave hospital in Old Vizima. Second crash can be "fixed" - I save and reload, corpseflesh, said he turn on auto saving. Hope this help others, but so far, we didn't found a way to prevent game crash in chapter 3.

Geralt Speed like to change a lot from slow - average - super fast. We still don't know why it happens, it just happend. Usually when you save - reload 3 or 4 times, you should get super fast. Because game is long, and there is a lot of running, its worth to spend 20 sec reloading to get better speed. I have teory that after fight, if you save and reload, you will always be fast, but I need to test it.


Prologue
Try to click on the sword, in place where it is stuck in the mannequin ( This should prevent you from staying in tutorial forever, or just wait a bit )
Run to the castle, leaving all enemy. After the tower, kill few enemy and open the gate. In castle run again from first fight, in second kill all, and down to the laboratory. ( If you are lucky, Leo will get attention of 3 enemy you run by, if not you have to kill the ones that followed you )

Get flints from first chest, learn Aard, and get out.
Decision - help Triss or help other witchers kill monster ( Help Triss, faster and there are almost 0 consequences later in the game )
Kill Savolla ( You can try using Aard to stun, or just hope for stun trigger from sword, but in both cases its hard to stun him )
After the talk with Vesemir, rest and put skills to intelligence lvl 2 and monster lore
Go upstairs, kill enemy take ingredients from chests, get back down and loot monster, rest and make potion for Triss


Chapter 1
Kill dog, then start running to the Reverend house. On way there try to talk to traveler, one of them will give you 100 orens. In Reverend house talk about salamander and the beast. Do mission for Harem, Mikul, Od and remember to always get back for reward. ( Harem - Take Ingredients from drowners, need 9 green ingredients in total. You have to kill 8 of them, after killing first 4 have to wait for other 4 to spawn, probably set on timer. Mikul - In crypt 4 yellow ingredients from ghuls, and also LEARN Igni )

After helping Mikul, put holy flames in to the first shrine, then get back to Inn and by 5 White myrtle petals then to Od. ( During Od quest, after you get reward, you can get rest in his house for 2-3 hours to get right of drunknes, but don't sleep too long or night will end, and you won't be able to put hole flames in to the shrines )

On your way back to Reverend house put others holy flames. After getting the reward, go now to Abigail. Give her the 5 petals, after Alvin drinks the potions leave and get back to the Reverend.
He will tell you where to find salamander, get back to Inn. Kill everyone inside, loot key from Inn keeper body.
Enter the secret hideout. Kill everyone again, one guy that have small axe, loot him body for Tawny Owl.
After talk with Abigail, rest and put skills - All attributes at lvl 2 + regeneration in Strenght + endurance regeneration in Stamina + max Igni without student and apprentice talents + learn lvl 2 in both steel and silver sword style
Decision - Kill beast with Abigail or with Villagers ( Villagers - This will kill Abigail = Better / Faster quest later in chapter 4 and you don't have to fight villagers after killing the beast, you can but we won't )
Again, you can try stun beast with Aard, but just use Strong style and kill it. After you kill the monster, get to the city gate


Chapter 2
Talk to elf and pass on playing the dice. Fight with the man, and enter the sewer ( The trick I use to fast win the fight, I attack him and then move forward, and then attack again. This reset his pattern, so he never attack you )
Refuse help from Siegfried, kill drowners that spawned around for more ingredients, then run and kill the Greater cockatrice. Loot his body and move to the exit.
After leaving the sewer, go to detective house, talk to him. Kill enemy waiting for you, then go and find fistech from other enemy in different part of town.
When you get fistech, get back to Vizima dungeon, talk to Vincent and get reward for monster, then talk to Jethro. He will open the door to your things in the chest, also loot barrel near the chest for alcohol.
Talk again to Jethro, ask about the prisoner, then bribe him with fistech, ask again about prisoner, go to the hospital.
Go inside the hospital, bribe guard again and talk to the prisoner. After the talk and the fight, go back to detective ( Because we refuse help from Siegfried he is guarding the hospital. If he helped you, you would get more dialogue during the fight, and later he would be guarding different place )

From detective go to Kalkstein. Talk about the tower, leave his house and enter house next to his. From dwarf by 2 books, and read them, and get back to Kalkstein.
Report about the tower, and go back to detective. After the fight in his house, go to ramsmeat, interrogate him about the his connection with salamander.
Read the notes from detective and go to Thaler interrogate him, then rest. Read Hellhound's Soul and make that potions. Rest until the dawn -1 hour ( Yes, from dawn minus 1 h )
After leaving Thaler house drink the potion you made and talk to Gardener, give him the food and listen to his history, then go to the gate that leads to the dike. Bribe the guard ( around 70 ) Talk to Declan, first about the sephiras, the about salamander ( If you talk other way, he will refuse to sell you the sephira now )
Get back to detective, then to Shani house, after talk with shani go to Gravedigger, ask about prisoner body that died not soon ago, and then ask if he can deliver the body to the hospital, bribe him with alcohol from barrel and he will deliver the body ( The Shani house can cause some problems, Grandmother can be really mean, there are few ways to get inside, but meny more to get kicked out )

Get back to detective and rest until midnight ( For now put that 1 silver talent you get from potion in to the intelligence level 3 ), go to hospital and do Autopsy ( You want to find Azar guilty, less fight later 3-2-1 )
Get back to detective once again, rest until dawn and talk to him about the result of Autopsy. Leave and re enter the house, talk to him twice and then head to the swamp ( If you found guilty someone else then Azar, you HAVE to kill ramsmeat, but now we can just talk to him again and said we took care of him )

In the swamp trun left to the clay pits. Kill all drowners around, loot them again for more green ingredients and then head to the cave near by. In the cave loot sarcophagus for sephirah, and go to brickmakers village.
Talk to Vaska about the tower and then about the problem with drowners. Take your reward from her ( Sephira ), and start putting them in to the obelisks. First near the town, second also, then head to the place of power and teleport back to the Kalkstein.
Talk to him about the tower, then go to dwarf blacksmith, and get lighting rod from him, then get back to swamp. Start putting the rest of sephiras until you enter the Druids grove.
If its not raining, you have to buy storm from old druid in Druids grove. If its raining, just put rest of the sephiras.
Fight the golem using obelisks, loot his body and put rest of sephiras ( Using obelisks to kill golem can be tricky. Usually try staying far from them before you press the last one, and try keeping golem inside the triangle )

Enter the tower, loot chest, and leave the tower. Fight with Ifrit, then use group style to defeat Azar and Profesor.


Chapter 3
After the cutscene and dialogue, take quest to put device, rest to the dusk -1h, read and make Golem's Pith and drink it after you rest. Leave the house, go to the bank and put first device, then head to the Inn. ( Ok, from this point in the game, only skill we lvl up is additional damage in all style, both steel and silver. But its tricky, cuz you have a lot of place when you can rest, and you will, but you don't have enough talents. So I won't write when you should put the talents, because for now I always waste a bit of time to check if I didn't forget anything, need to work on this little more. )

In the Inn talk to Declan - Adda - Velerad - Thaler then again Thaler and Adda and at last declan. Leave the Inn and head to the Jethro in Vizima Dungeon. On your way there, leave Thaler. ( In the Inn there are few alcohol you can pick up, for now I'm picking them, free alchemic base, but again I'm not sure if I need to cuz later I buy better alcohol )

After the talk with Jethro, head to the church order, talk to Siegfried and go to the cementery. Put second device and kill Vetala, then go back to Siegfried and head to the campfire. Rest to the dawn and then talk with Angus.
Go to his house and kill him, then head to the sewer. Before entering sewer, put last device. Head to the secret base, use power of magic and tell angus sends you and give the password. Inside the base, talk to one dwarf worker and get book from him ( potion ) and then loot chest. The leave the base, and head to kill boss of that base in the sewer. After killing him, loot his body and leave the sewer. ( Try to kill him far away from others, or you will have problem looting his body )
Head to the swamp, talk to Vaska, and then take care of the prisoned villagers. There are 3 groups. When you save group inside the cave, go deeper inside and take mushroom for later quest.
Go back to Vaska and head to the Druids grove, talk with Hierophant, when he start moving, talk to elder druid and buy book for other potion ( Maribor forest ) and then follow Hierophant to the meeting place ( At this point, there is around 2 - 2:30 min of following druid, I tried to speed it up, but so far, it didn't worked well, need to test this little more )

After you kill the boss of swamp base, loot him and go to the tower you opened in chapter 2. If you are missing any ingredients, buy them from Kalksteine, and teleport back to Triss houose ( Again, at this point I also buy alcohol, which is VERY GOOD alchemic base, which means, I can put 4 or 5 ingredients. Thanks to this I don't have to make other potion, before making others, but still I kinda do it without thinking, and I never know what alcohol I take as a base, so yeah, I need to work more on this )

When you get back to Triss, talk to her about the source of magic in Vizima, then teleport back to Kalksteine laboratoy ( YES Laboratory, NOT the tower in the swamp ). Talk with Shani and head to the hospital. From Dandelion you know the kid was kidnap, save him. ( OK this is the part when game crash for me, so I save here, for others this can not happend . . . )
Decision - You can send kid to Triss or Shani ( Shani - Its faster, you have less to walking and talking to them, and also later in chapter 4 its better )
Go to Shani house, and the go back, Dandelion will take you to the Inn. When you get back, go upstair and talk to shani. Rest to the midnight ( or midnight -1h ) and leave Shani house and go to use Kalksteine teleport again. From Triss house, go to the Inn and talk with Declan. Leave and re enter Inn and talk to him again. Go meet 3 guards, and pass the password and then head to the sewer.
When you leave sewer, go inside another secret base and and kill everyone inside. The the gem in front of the mirror and also loot mage body for another gem. Leave the room and don't kill werewolf ( You can kill him, but its better not to kill him. You don't have to fight him now, and later )

Get back to the Inn, talk to Triss about the gem, and then to Declan. Now you need to find allie who will attack the base with you ( Order or Elfs ) to get allie, you need to the Gold rush quest.
Decision - there are many ways to do this quest, but we will do it the fastest way. Wait for Siegfried and enter with him, inside the bank leave him and go help elfs ( you just skipped 3 long fight )
When you get to the ruins, kill the monster and loot orange ingredients ( If you didn't buy one from Kalksteine, this is the place wher so far I always get at least 1 orange ingredients ) leave the sewer and go to the Triss house.
Talk about the kid, and then about the meeting in the Inn. Go to Inn, kill salamandre and go upstair, teleport to the main salamandre base. ( If you kill werewolf, I think you need to fight Guards here )
In the base run without fighting anyone, meet the Elf ( Or Siegfried if you chose to help order in the bank ) and open the portal with the gem you loot from mage a lot earlier.
When portal opened, run again without fighting anyone. After the cutscene follow to kill Professor. You only need to kill him to move on. When you fall down, DON"T touch the Kikimora Queen, she can one hit kill you.
Destroy pillars with Aard, and in big cave destroy another pillar. When queen is dead, loot her body and leave the cave. ( You can only use Aard once, inside the big cave, but using Aard on first pillar, despawn ALL enemy in big cave, so it is a lot easier to move )


In this chapter it decided which side you will be able to help later. If you help Order, you won't be able to help elfs in chapter 4 BUT you will be able to leave the order without helping them. Same with elf, if you help them in chapter 3, you can only help them in chapter 4, or leave them.


Chapter 4
The back tracking chapter, if you are slow, expect time lost.
Talk to fish man, this will start the quest, then go to the crypt to meet Berengar. Help him killing monster then leave the crypt. Go to his fireplace and rest at least 1 h ( Yes you have to rest to talk to Berengar, and you can rest to the dawn if you want, then you won't have to rest later in the field BUT then remember to make potions Maribor forest now )

Talk to him about the quest, and now you can decide which sied you will help ( We will help human = faster )
After the rest, head to the village ( OK, once again while you are resting at Berengar fireplace, you can make 2 potions Maribor forest, still you are missing or at least you should miss 1 black ingredients to make other potion. ALSO you are probably short on level to level up Ignis to lvl 4 and get minus cast cost in Ignis, so thats why I said only to rest here, because later we will also rest to make the potions and lvl up Igni )

After the talk with Dandelion head to Alina house, talk with her and with Alvin, head to the Inn. After talk with Celina go inside Inn, talk again with Dandelion and go back to Alina. From her house go to the river and meet Alvin (If you give kid to Triss, Alvin will be in different place )
Then go to meet Julian who is waiting in front of the Inn. First talk about the Dagon ( This will make you able to kill him ) then sale all your jewelery. Then talk to him again to learn and Alina is missing. Go to the field, and rest to the dawn ( Again, you are missing lvl probably and ingredients for last potion, but this is the place where I usually make 2 maribor forest, ofcourse unless you make the earlier, then you don't have to rest here if you rest to dawn earlier, if not rest to dawn. )

Go to the tree and meet Alina ghost. After the fight, you will meet Celina ghost, get back to Julian and tell him that Alina is dead, and you DON'T know who did this. Head to the house near the Inn, talk to the healer ( If you didn't kill Abigail in chapter 1, you will meet Abigail here ) , then go back to the field and start killing Alina ghost for mirror piece. While you are killing Alina ghost, use power of magic to kill ghost little faster. When you get all piece, go back to the village and talk to blacksmith to repair the the mirror.
Enter and leave house and take back the mirror, and get back to Alina. Quest is still not done, go back to healer, talk with her and go back to the field. Talk with Adam ( unless you told Julian who killed Celina, then Adam is in his house )  in the field and watch him killing him self. Loot his body for orens and go back to village.
If you have 3000 orens now, go to the blacksmith son and buy a lot better sword from him, if you don't have enough money you can buy it later after taking reward for killing Dagon. When you get the sowrd, head to the Lakeside. Talk to the Fisher King about borrowing the boat, and the head to the island. Head to the shrine and kill one fisherman to summon Dagon ( IMPORTANT!!! - Before the fight start, be sure to drink 1 Maribor Forest and 1 Tawny Owl, and also be sure that you leveled Igni to lvl 4 and get lower cast cost. Sorry I really don't remember at which part I can learn it so its hard to say, just be sure to have this talent and potions )

Use steel sword to kill monster summoned by Dagon. When Dagon is dead loot 1 black ingredients from body ( If you didn't get ectoplasma from Alina body ) for last missing ingredients.
Return to the village, get reward from Julian for killing the Dagon and "resuing" Alina soul. Ask him if anyone was looking for me and the go to the Fisher King.
Talk to him and go back to the island. Talk with lady of the lake, get better silver sword, and the head back to the boat.
Decision - You can kill or spare Berengar live. At this point, it really doesn't matter but I think killing him is slower NOW but later in chapter 5 you save little time, and reverse, if you spare him now, you will probably lose some time later. Rest at the firecamp to reset toxicity and to make missing potions.
After you killed him go back to the village and talk with Dandelion. Then enter village and talk with elfs and then go to Dandelion and tell him you will run as soon as the fight begins.. After the fight begins run from the fight to the lakeside, leave in the boat with Dandelion and back to Vizima.


Chapter 5
Because we are neutral both order and elfs, want to kill us. It's not really that big problem, because it's really easie to run from fight, or not even start fight at all.

Start with talking with Foltest, then you have 3 person that you have to talk, in order you want. Triss, De Wett and Velerad, then go to the king and leave the castle.
In old vizima, first you have to escort 2 nurse to the hospital. Inside hospital you will guard who tell you about some monster killing people ( Again, next place where game crash for me, but I found solutions that is working for me so far, I simple save and reload before leaving the hospital. Corp says he turn on auto save and this prevent from crashing ) Kill the mutant and go back to the hospital. ( Before I enter hospital again, I drink potions I made. I drink 1 Maribor forest, 1 Tawny Owl and that one potions I couldn't make earlier Petri's Philter. )

In hospital after the dialogue with Shani you have to fight both order and elf ( If you would stay on one side, you would only have to fght one of this group ) after the fight, leave the hospital and go with Shani to the Swamp Cemetery. On the way kill monsters and destroy barricades.
On swamp cemetery kill only bug monster. When Grand Master helped you leave Shani and go to the power of magic, use it and head to the Striga crypt. Before the fight, use fireplace to reset toxicity and level up. Level up strenght to lvl 4, in stamina, also learn lvl 4 and Endurance regeneration. Now you are ready to face all enemy in the game. You have good stat, and strong Igni.

Kill striga, loot only sarcophagus and then leave the crypt. Head to the Old Manor. Kill De Wett there, later kill everybody in the manor to spawn mosnter and Triss. When you enter the manor alone, there is only 1 hard fight with Koshchey. When you kill him, move forward. What left here is kill Azar. When you kill him, check the mirror.
When you left the manor, talk with Triss, and head back to the boat. Check your power of magic duration. If its under 1:30 h you have to do little detour to re use it.


Epilogue
Well, its hard to lost here. After the talk with Foltest and Dandelion, you have 2 fight that you will skip, with the order and with elfs ( Thanks to us staying neutral )
After the talk with elf, you have to kill mutants, and enter the Zeugls lair. Kill him and head to the order church. Kill mutant and enter the church. Kill guard, loot the key from them and enter the church.
After the cutscen kill everything and just follow the path to the top of the mountain. When you kill everyone, rest last time. Level up last time steel strenght style to lvl 4. This will help a lot in killing Grand Master.
After you defeat him, don't fight with the ghost ( you can but we won't ) when you get back, loor Grand Master body, go to the exit, talk with Dandelion and end the game.
Hey,
I will still search for some oobs and shit like I did on mass effect 3 :p , but I will install the game again tomorrow and will try some runs monday evening, I will tell you how it went!
So after the talk with Corp, we decided to give a chance to whetstones / diamond dust / runes and thunder potions. Each of this item increase dmg for sword, and because until much much later, somewhere around begining of the chapter 5, we mostly kill everything with sword, so getting any extra damage could be good.

Tested that, and I found few places, where getting and using whetstone is good ( Like in chapter 1, it save 1 combo in each ghul you kill in the crypt ) after all this testing did run yesterday. First Corpseflesh beat my time and get 3:13:20 ( Or something close ) but he still didn't know how much I did changed the route.

New WR and first decent / good run - 3:04:57

Run wasn't perfect, but it was first that I'm 100% happy with it, get 0 crash thanks to asking corp how he run the game (Fullscreen and lowest settings). Will try and improve the run, its still far from being perfect, also my sum of best get below sub 3. Maybe soon I will get run under 3h, that would be something.