Tobal No. 1

2007-09-08 07:18:15 pm

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After juggling around a few choices on what to speed run next, I've decided to choose this game. Most known as "the game that came free with the purchase of the Final Fantasy 7 demo", this game, in my opinion, can make an excellent speedrun. Though, I'm not referring to tournament mode, but to quest mode. Instead of making quest mode into more like a fighting game like in tournament mode, it's more like an action RPG type mode.

So, I'm wondering, anyone interested? The best times I've gotten so far are:

Episode one: 2:54.10
two: 11:20.03
three: 6:50.04

I don't remember the time for Udan's dungeon (since if you hit the one switch, it only lists the top scores and molorans collected instead of times). I think practice mode doesn't need to be listed.

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JRL

2007-09-08 07:57:27 pm

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Damn, you're fast. (As in the way you've already completed two runs)

getter77

2007-09-08 09:39:52 pm

100% runs=great to watch

I'd also be interested in finally seeing somebody rip this game apart quest wise(as would I be for the sequel...). Good luck with any further wrangling with it!

Deadstick

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2007-09-08 09:40:17 pm

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Not really much else to do at the moment other than answer help wanted ads and go to class with a professor that you have to tell fifty times to slow down and wait for us to write down the notes. Boredom can make you strive for a bit of things though.

Though, I'm still debating on whether Practice stage should be added on this. It only takes less than a minute to beat since you only have to defeat the easiest enemy in the game: Madmouse.

Edit: thanks for the luck, getter.

mikwuyma

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2007-09-09 02:24:41 am

My feelings on The Demon Rush

Just to deter the people who might butt in and say "hay you cant run fighting gamez", quest mode in this game is definitely allowed (but not tournament mode).

There is enough variety and planning to make quest a worthwhile speedrun (plus this is a good game).

ZenicReverie

2007-09-09 02:42:23 am

Waiting hurts my soul...

I'd watch this.

nameless

2007-09-09 07:47:49 am

Akuma ma ta ta, what a wonderful phrase!

yup i'd watch it too
i bought this game just for the ffVII demo though

Deadstick

2007-09-11 04:45:51 am

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Just to update, finished practice, and episodes 1-3, with, in my opinion, excellent times:

Practice: 00'56"59
Episode 1: 2'30"30
Episode 2: 3'40"79
Episode 3: 5'01"23

The problem is, not very surprising, Udan's Dungeon. The farthest I've gotten with my usual strategy is to the 19th floor (though, I have beaten it a few times before using this strategy.) This strategy involves a lot of luck, which I get two scales and three hypers in one vase. When the time comes to where I need it, I break the vase, and use the hypers with the scales. Usually, this nets me five minutes in hyper mode. Though, all these attempts ended at the 19th floor (assuming I'm lucky, of course.)

Now, I have a question for those who have completed Udan's Dungeon: what was your strategy to beating this dungeon?

Puntja

2007-11-30 07:18:18 pm

videos please Smiley

ZenicReverie

2007-11-30 07:19:09 pm

Waiting hurts my soul...

It's scheduled to be verified...

Deadstick

2007-12-15 04:25:57 am

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From the looks of it, it might be in the submission queue for a while. But, I'm more than willing to go ahead and ask for the run to be canceled, then encode the runs myself (though, they won't be SDA quality), provided that if I do encode the runs myself and upload them to filefront (and maybe bite the bullet and register a youtube account), someone comes along and beats my times.

ZenicReverie

2007-12-15 05:08:41 am

Waiting hurts my soul...

Sucks that finding verifiers is so hard to do. I wish runs could be posted as unverified, but probably won't happen any time soon since verifying runs then wouldn't do much. In any case, I hope this hasn't discouraged you from continuing to speedrun.

getter77

2007-12-15 02:37:39 pm

100% runs=great to watch

Don't lose heart dude~

Sometimes it can take awhile for verifiers to be found, or even seemingly forever and a day for runs to even come up onsite after having swarms of them due to other circumstances at play.

I say hang in there! 8)

Vid3odrome

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Major bump! I'm running this...my first speed game!
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Melodia

2014-02-12 11:41:47 pm

FWIW, Tobal 2 has a much more interesting quest mode. It's also a much better game....
Of course it's Japanese only and the translation patch wouldn't be allowed on SDA. But just saying.

Vid3odrome

2014-02-12 11:55:57 pm

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I'm taking them both on, working on this first, thanks

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Warepire

2014-02-18 04:50:18 am

Heavy Metal Powered

For Tobal 2 Quest Mode, check out this TAS: http://tasvideos.org/4180S.html (there's a YT embed available)
I am not sure how much that can be replicated in real time, but some information might come in handy.

Vid3odrome

2014-02-18 09:08:09 am

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I saw that and it's insane how broken he gets it! Thanks for posting it though--anyone who hasn't seen it should watch it for the hilarity.

Both Tobal 1 and 2 have that "I know I can clip through SOMETHING" feel to them-- weird physics, weird collision.

Anonymous

2014-02-18 09:32:14 am

Good job on your runs!

Vid3odrome

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thanks, anon! I appreciate the encouragement Smiley

I submitted one episode WR to TSSB and got the impression that maybe I shouldn't have done that (and that my comment should be shorter, though it's kinda tough to breakdown this game and as everyone can see, I type too much), so I'm going to submit a single segment run of the whole thing next. Hopefully within a few weeks!