Super Mario Galaxy (Wii)

Mr. Piggy

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Mr. Piggy: 2009-09-06 08:36:38 pm

2009-09-06 08:17:42 pm

In the infinite

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And for some reason it won't let me watch the video Jiggpuff, it's just a ton of little weird symbols Tongue

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Hmm... I'm not sure if the problem is your browser or your video player, but have you watched an .mp4 video before?

I don't even know what .mp4 is; I know nothing about that kind of stuff.

Now. I'm looking for a good level to collect starbits beings I know I'm going to have to do it later in the game for the last couple pink fatties. I can manage to get around 100 starbits in around 1minute flat on Melty Molten Galaxy, daredevil run. I can grab 100 starbits, then kill myself halfway through the level and repeat this over and over again, until I get the amount of starbits needed; then beat the level to collect the bits. It would be pretty boring for the watcher to just watch me do half of a level over and over again about 15 times, but I guess it's the fastest way and that's all the matters. I think this is the fastest way to gather starbits, but if you have any other ideas, please tell me.

Oh, and I'm also done with the route. Grin

If you want to upload the route to the current wiki go ahead, I don't know how to do that kind of stuff. Tongue

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And for some reason it won't let me watch the video Jiggpuff, it's just a ton of little weird symbols :P
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Hmm... I'm not sure if the problem is your browser or your video player, but have you watched an .mp4 video before?
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I don't even know what .mp4 is; I know nothing about that kind of stuff.

Now. I'm looking for a good level to collect starbits beings I know I'm going to have to do it later in the game for the last couple pink fatties. I can manage to get around 100 starbits in around 1minute flat on Melty Molten Galaxy, daredevil run. I can grab 100 starbits, then kill myself halfway through the level and repeat this over and over again, until I get the amount of starbits needed; then beat the level to collect the bits. It would be pretty boring for the watcher to just watch me do half of a level over and over again about 15 times, but I guess it's the fastest way and that's all the matters. I think this is the fastest way to gather starbits, but if you have any other ideas, please tell me.

Oh, and I'm also done with the route. ;D If you want to upload the route to the current wiki go ahead, I don't know how to do that kind of stuff. :P

RJWaters2

2009-09-06 09:29:46 pm

two rows of links on main page pretty nifty

I think the sling-pull galaxy was the best to collect bits if you've got enough lives to lose by then.

Mr. Piggy

2009-09-06 09:53:34 pm

In the infinite

Quote from RJWaters2:

I think the sling-pull galaxy was the best to collect bits if you've got enough lives to lose by then.

K thanks, I'll have to check that out.

Mystery

2009-09-07 12:21:57 pm

Quote from Mr. Piggy:

I don't even know what .mp4 is; I know nothing about that kind of stuff.

Now. I'm looking for a good level to collect starbits beings I know I'm going to have to do it later in the game for the last couple pink fatties. I can manage to get around 100 starbits in around 1minute flat on Melty Molten Galaxy, daredevil run. I can grab 100 starbits, then kill myself halfway through the level and repeat this over and over again, until I get the amount of starbits needed; then beat the level to collect the bits. It would be pretty boring for the watcher to just watch me do half of a level over and over again about 15 times, but I guess it's the fastest way and that's all the matters. I think this is the fastest way to gather starbits, but if you have any other ideas, please tell me.

Oh, and I'm also done with the route. Grin

If you want to upload the route to the current wiki go ahead, I don't know how to do that kind of stuff. Tongue

Mp4 is a container format. Inside is a video format and an audio format and some other stuff sometimes.
So you need a player to play this. The easiest is Haali Media Splitter + ffdshow + your favorite dshow player (I like Zoom Player).

As for the run, maybe you could at least kill yourself in different ways to make it more interesting?

[quote="Mr. Piggy"]
I don't even know what .mp4 is; I know nothing about that kind of stuff.

Now. I'm looking for a good level to collect starbits beings I know I'm going to have to do it later in the game for the last couple pink fatties. I can manage to get around 100 starbits in around 1minute flat on Melty Molten Galaxy, daredevil run. I can grab 100 starbits, then kill myself halfway through the level and repeat this over and over again, until I get the amount of starbits needed; then beat the level to collect the bits. It would be pretty boring for the watcher to just watch me do half of a level over and over again about 15 times, but I guess it's the fastest way and that's all the matters. I think this is the fastest way to gather starbits, but if you have any other ideas, please tell me.

Oh, and I'm also done with the route. ;D If you want to upload the route to the current wiki go ahead, I don't know how to do that kind of stuff. :P
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Mp4 is a container format. Inside is a video format and an audio format and some other stuff sometimes.
So you need a player to play this. The easiest is Haali Media Splitter + ffdshow + your favorite dshow player (I like Zoom Player).

As for the run, maybe you could at least kill yourself in different ways to make it more interesting?

Greenalink

2009-09-07 12:58:24 pm

DS Dictator

The Sony DVD recorders are fine.

Look at this one
(It's been already posted before a few pages back, easier sequence break on Bee Luigi takes flight).

*Used High quality settings from the recorder
*Then I used a free program called Anri-Chan (download from SDA) to make a MQ MP4
*Then I edited it on VirtualDub to make the video 16:9 (the Wii settings were on Widescreen)
*Finally I use a HD encoder found online to double act as a compressor (smaller file size) & 'fake' HD to keep the 16:9 effect.

Of course when I send my runs to SDA I usually burn them onto a DVD-R(s) since I lack experience on Bittorrent (Foward Porting issue).

MP4s are also used to be played on iPod/iPhone/iTouch. The medium quality download from the site is the most suitable for the device.

Mystery

2009-09-07 01:21:12 pm

I wouldn't really recommend re-encoding after you've used Anri-chan... lossy encodes ends up more lossy after each encode.
Anri-chan should perform the entire necessary compression if I'm not mistaken.
And what's this HD encoder you mention you used?

Mr. Piggy

2009-09-07 01:40:46 pm

In the infinite

I doubt I'll be doing anything with Anri-chan, since I know nothing about this stuff, I'm technologically retarded Tongue

I barely even know how to run a DVD Recorder, so... http://speeddemosarchive.com/forum/index.php/topic,10580.0.html

moooh

2009-09-07 01:59:11 pm

Exoray

That's exactly why you would use anri-chan. It does everything for you without you needing to know anything about encoding at all. All you need to do is answer a few questions.

All the questions are thoroughly described here: http://speeddemosarchive.com/kb/index.php/Anri-chan

Greenalink

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Greenalink: 2009-09-07 02:29:56 pm

2009-09-07 02:23:11 pm

DS Dictator

Quote from Mystery:

I wouldn't really recommend re-encoding after you've used Anri-chan... lossy encodes ends up more lossy after each encode.
Anri-chan should perform the entire necessary compression if I'm not mistaken.
And what's this HD encoder you mention you used?

All of the/my Anri Chan encodes does NOT set it to 16:9, only 4:3 which is a problem for my Wii & Xbox360 videos as when they are uploaded onto Youtube it's 4:3. If I did a little extra work for Youtube purposes then yes I will have to re-encode it.

Example of video right after Anri-Chan Encode:

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And what's this HD encoder you mention you used?

It's from one of those How to make your videos HD online from Youtube. It's a better and more reilable alternate to Windows Nooby Maker. Manily because the 16:9 setting from WMM doesn't always make the Youtube video 16:9. Plus Anri-Chan lacks Watermarking & 16:9 which VirtualDub does well on.

[quote="Mystery"]
I wouldn't really recommend re-encoding after you've used Anri-chan... lossy encodes ends up more lossy after each encode.
Anri-chan should perform the entire necessary compression if I'm not mistaken.
And what's this HD encoder you mention you used?
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All of the/my Anri Chan encodes does NOT set it to 16:9, only 4:3 which is a problem for my Wii & Xbox360 videos as when they are uploaded onto Youtube it's 4:3. If I did a little extra work for Youtube purposes then yes I will have to re-encode it.

Example of video right after Anri-Chan Encode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZuJn_wga_4&feature=channel_page

[quote]And what's this HD encoder you mention you used?[/quote]

It's from one of those How to make your videos HD online from Youtube. It's a better and more reilable alternate to Windows Nooby Maker. Manily because the 16:9 setting from WMM doesn't always make the Youtube video 16:9. Plus Anri-Chan lacks Watermarking & 16:9 which VirtualDub does well on.

Mystery

2009-09-07 02:34:31 pm

It's really weird that Anri-chan would set it to 4:3 unless that's the source aspect ratio (the aspect ratio of the original). If the source really is 4:3, then making it 16:9 is not a very good idea...
I agree that Windows Nooby Maker is bad.

DragonFang

2009-09-07 02:36:45 pm

Rookie DF reportin' f'dudy, sir.

Quote from Mystery:

I agree that Windows Nooby Maker is bad.

Unfortunately, Windows Nooby Maker is all I have Undecided

Greenalink

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Greenalink: 2009-09-07 02:44:13 pm

2009-09-07 02:38:56 pm

DS Dictator

My DVD recorder is set to Widescreen for recording too.

I remember months ago in the Anri-Chan Beta topic and look what it says:

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Anri 3 features are frozen, non-beta in a month - aug 24 edit.

This is a beta release so expect things to be broken. Report anything wrong here and we'll take a look at it. It will also help if you mention what operating system you're under. I'm especially on the lookout for Vista issues..

To-do list - Smiley face = done/fixed.
- Enable Lagarith multithreading.
- Vdub window for pixel shift.
- When NMF is successfully created, switch over to it as the source.
- Give users chance to edit ini.bat during installation.
- Option to encode avi segments into individual files.
- Chapter information in mp4
- Better logging: encoding time. avg qp.
- Incorporate anri_auto (Psonar)
- Implement DVD widescreen (16x9 aspect ratio) - very low priority, as in probably won't be done.- Wii compatibility
bug - Unicode characters in the statid. - No real fix under batch code.

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then making it 16:9 is not a very good idea...

It's really worse on the console games before the Wii/360/PS3 as those games do not have Widescreen support, all those widescreens videos are basically stretched (on Youtube).

My DVD recorder is set to Widescreen for recording too.

I remember months ago in the Anri-Chan Beta topic and look what it says:

[quote] Anri 3 features are frozen, non-beta in a month - aug 24 edit.

This is a beta release so expect things to be broken. Report anything wrong here and we'll take a look at it. It will also help if you mention what operating system you're under. I'm especially on the lookout for Vista issues..

To-do list - Smiley face = done/fixed.
- Enable Lagarith multithreading.
- Vdub window for pixel shift.
- When NMF is successfully created, switch over to it as the source.
- Give users chance to edit ini.bat during installation.
- Option to encode avi segments into individual files.
- Chapter information in mp4
- Better logging: encoding time. avg qp.
- Incorporate anri_auto (Psonar)
[b]- Implement DVD widescreen (16x9 aspect ratio) - very low priority, as in probably won't be done.[/b]- Wii compatibility
  bug - Unicode characters in the statid. - No real fix under batch code.[/quote]

[quote]then making it 16:9 is not a very good idea...[/quote]

It's really worse on the console games before the Wii/360/PS3 as those games do not have Widescreen support, all those widescreens videos are basically stretched  (on Youtube).

Mystery

2009-09-07 02:59:09 pm

Quote from DragonFang:

Quote from Mystery:

I agree that Windows Nooby Maker is bad.

Unfortunately, Windows Nooby Maker is all I have Undecided

There are other applications.
Anri-chan and MeGUI are encoding tools.
Probably all you need to encode some videos.

DragonFang

2009-09-07 06:01:55 pm

Rookie DF reportin' f'dudy, sir.

Quote from Mystery:

Quote from DragonFang:

Quote from Mystery:

I agree that Windows Nooby Maker is bad.

Unfortunately, Windows Nooby Maker is all I have Undecided

There are other applications.
Anri-chan and MeGUI are encoding tools.
Probably all you need to encode some videos.

But even more unfortunatelier, I am not allowed to download anything onto my computer.

Mystery

2009-09-08 12:08:28 pm

That is unfortunate, but fortunately, something is always better than nothing.

yoshifan

2009-09-09 06:01:37 pm

Segment 1

I started my run! As far as I can tell, I somehow managed to do this segment with no stand-out mistakes, and even fewer minor mistakes than I was hoping for.

This level was harder than I expected, and it took several hours of play to get all of it down. The flipswitch room causes me problems as much as the bunny catching does; actually, maybe more now that I'm pretty good at the bunny catching.

Mr. Piggy

2009-09-09 08:30:45 pm

In the infinite

Very nice!! Really good bunny-catching. Smiley

I can't wait to get started! Unfortunately I'm still having a bit of trouble with recording and lagging issues. Tongue

Mystery

2009-09-10 07:26:45 am

Well done!
So looking forward to more segments to come!

Downup03

2009-09-10 08:56:08 am

hello, not sure if this has been posted and i believe it has. Was playing with
Cyclone Stone Fast Foe

I was searching Youtube for runs on this level but no one used this trick.
If it has been posted before sorry for wasting your time to watch it Cheesy

Greenalink

2009-09-10 09:45:12 am

DS Dictator

Yeah it's old but from the start I think it's faster to go down instead of right, you'll be able to cross over the platforms sooner.
Speaking of the shortcut this is the only place where holding the A button during the spin makes it much easier to perform the walljump shortcut.

Mr. Piggy

2009-09-10 06:51:56 pm

In the infinite

K I just ordered a switcher or whatever they are and a couple cords that should help with the lag, so I should be able to get started on this thing sometime next week. Smiley

yoshifan

2009-09-11 11:05:47 pm

Thanks to everyone for the comments on segment 1. Smiley

I'm working on segment 2 now, which will consist of Dino Piranha, A Snack of Cosmic Proportions, and Bee Luigi Takes Flight. Also, I put up the route I'm using on the SDA Galaxy wiki. Hope no one minds, but I replaced the old route since I'm confident that the new route is faster, unless some stars get new major shortcuts at some point.

Mr. Piggy: about farming star bits, here are some quick suggestions of levels you could decide between, just off the top of my head.

- Sling Pod - A Very Sticky Situation: this has been suggested before, and it's probably the best choice, but taking a look at other levels wouldn't hurt either.
- Freezeflame - Hot and Cold Collide: at the beginning of the ice/lava squares area, stand there and point at and collect 30-40 star bits, fall and die, and repeat.
- Toy Time - Bouncing Down Cake Lane: I know this level has a lot of star bits in general, but I don't know if it has a good place to death abuse and collect.
- Honeyclimb - Scaling the Sticky Wall: this might be a rival for Sling Pod as a non-death-abuse option, if you decide to not death abuse. (Death abuse is going to save time though, because it skips the cutscenes associated with completing and selecting a star.)

Thanks to everyone for the comments on segment 1. :)  I'm working on segment 2 now, which will consist of Dino Piranha, A Snack of Cosmic Proportions, and Bee Luigi Takes Flight.  Also, I put up the route I'm using on the SDA Galaxy wiki.  Hope no one minds, but I replaced the old route since I'm confident that the new route is faster, unless some stars get new major shortcuts at some point.

Mr. Piggy: about farming star bits, here are some quick suggestions of levels you could decide between, just off the top of my head.

- Sling Pod - A Very Sticky Situation: this has been suggested before, and it's probably the best choice, but taking a look at other levels wouldn't hurt either.
- Freezeflame - Hot and Cold Collide: at the beginning of the ice/lava squares area, stand there and point at and collect 30-40 star bits, fall and die, and repeat.
- Toy Time - Bouncing Down Cake Lane: I know this level has a lot of star bits in general, but I don't know if it has a good place to death abuse and collect.
- Honeyclimb - Scaling the Sticky Wall: this might be a rival for Sling Pod as a non-death-abuse option, if you decide to not death abuse. (Death abuse is going to save time though, because it skips the cutscenes associated with completing and selecting a star.)

Mr. Piggy

2009-09-12 09:51:57 pm

In the infinite

I suck at sling pod galaxy :P, but maybe with enough practice I could get into a good routine route to collect the most starbits, I need to start playing this game again, I haven't played it in a couple weeks because I'm still waiting for the splitter to arrive and Metroid Prime Trilogy is just too good. Shocked

yoshifan

2009-09-13 10:57:45 pm

Segment 2

I timed the stars as:
Dino Piranha - 1:50, A Snack of Cosmic Proportions - 2:13, Bee Luigi Takes Flight - 1:02.

Really happy with this segment as well. As I was making the segment video, I was particularly surprised to see how low the time for Bee Luigi Takes Flight was. I think we predicted the star would go under 1:30 a little while ago.

By the way, I tried seeing if you could skip the part where you feed the Terrace Luma some star bits, since I noticed the part came after a save prompt. You can't skip it, though. If you save there and then reset, you have to feed the Terrace Luma when you enter the Terrace again.

Let's see, the plan for segment 3 is Trouble on the Tower, Big Bad Bugaboom, Surfing 101, Painting the Planet Yellow, and Megaleg's Moon. 5 stars... Trouble on the Tower and Surfing could take some practice, but the other 3 don't seem that bad. By the way, I should say that my productivity with this run will go down pretty soon, since school will start for me in a week and a half. However, I'll do my best to keep the play quality high, whether the segments come sooner or later.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC9IVHg3kdE]Segment 2[/url]

I timed the stars as:
Dino Piranha - 1:50, A Snack of Cosmic Proportions - 2:13, Bee Luigi Takes Flight - 1:02.

Really happy with this segment as well.  As I was making the segment video, I was particularly surprised to see how low the time for Bee Luigi Takes Flight was.  I think we predicted the star would go under 1:30 a little while ago.

By the way, I tried seeing if you could skip the part where you feed the Terrace Luma some star bits, since I noticed the part came after a save prompt.  You can't skip it, though.  If you save there and then reset, you have to feed the Terrace Luma when you enter the Terrace again.

Let's see, the plan for segment 3 is Trouble on the Tower, Big Bad Bugaboom, Surfing 101, Painting the Planet Yellow, and Megaleg's Moon.  5 stars... Trouble on the Tower and Surfing could take some practice, but the other 3 don't seem that bad.  By the way, I should say that my productivity with this run will go down pretty soon, since school will start for me in a week and a half.  However, I'll do my best to keep the play quality high, whether the segments come sooner or later.

UCpro

2009-09-14 01:05:36 am

this is awesome yoshifan ... keep up the great work!

just curious, where do u go to school?