Super Mario Bros. 2

2008-07-23 05:01:50 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

So I'm working very hard on this game once again. I don't think it will be too long until I improve my 9:15 run. I am aiming for under 9 minutes for this run, but it seems a little unlikely. I still need to keep experimenting with every level and try to determine if my route is good enough to break the 9 minute mark.

6-3 through 7-2 have been killing me though. I just need more PRACTICE! 8)

Wish me luck. Smiley

cak

2008-07-26 06:43:12 am

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Hey, good luck Andrew. I tried pretty hard for a sub-9 minute run but ultimately decided to put it off in order to spend more time on music. I'm 100% certain it can be done though!

andrewg

2008-07-26 08:16:25 am

Hi! I'm andrewg!

Quote from cak:

Hey, good luck Andrew. I tried pretty hard for a sub-9 minute run but ultimately decided to put it off in order to spend more time on music. I'm 100% certain it can be done though!

Heh, I've been working on my hobby as well: Juggling.

I'm really hoping I can get under 9 minutes, but I can't even seem to break my record of 9:15. I just haven't been to complete any of the attempts. In one of my last attempts, I had a death and probably still could have beaten 9:15 if I wasn't so bad.

After doing more experiments in each level, I can say that under 9 minutes is definately possible, it's just going to take some more practice.

andrewg

2009-03-07 09:49:36 am

Hi! I'm andrewg!

double post... oh well

I've officially decided to pick this run up again. I keep going back to this game and failing to improve my speedrun. I'm not quitting this one until I beat my 9:15... hopefully it'll be by quite a large amount.

I am still working on The Lost Levels 100% run, so don't worry Wink

That'll get done sometime in a few months I imagine.

So yeah, I'm really going to try and improve my warpless smb2 run as much as I can. I may even end up doing a 100% run as well. 8)

Frezy_man

2009-03-07 11:04:51 am

bläää

so you are still trying to improve this?

btw, I have passed the total amount of more then 600 attempts on SMB3 warp run now.

andrewg

2009-03-07 12:13:47 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

Quote from Frezy_man:

so you are still trying to improve this?

btw, I have passed the total amount of more then 600 attempts on SMB3 warp run now.

Wow. I'm thinking if/when you beat my time I'm not sure if I'll have the patience to try and beat it back. I will probably try for a long while though if you ever manage under 11:01.

I have had a goal for a long while now, which is for smb1, smb2, and smb3. I want the total time combined to be 25 minutes or less. Currently it's 5:00 + 9:15 + 11:01 = 25:16.

So hopefully I can get 8:59 in smb2 to reach my goal. I SHOULD be able to manage that with a lot of practice.

A 16 second improvement in smb2 is going to be TOUGH!

MASTER-88

2009-03-07 01:14:29 pm

Master-88

Awesome andrewg. I will hope see this in future. I just yesterday practice make tricks at this game.

My personal best time is 15.09 on PAL versio. Under 9 minutes sounds really crazy. Me too have some motivations make personal speedruns, my good goal are somewhere 13 minutes. I always lost minutes against Wart. Angry

BTW i loved see your runs with this game. Smiley

andrewg

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andrewg: 2009-03-14 06:33:11 pm

2009-03-08 03:29:33 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

I'm thinking there are a few spots where I can save between 2-3 seconds each and maybe 2 spots where I can save 5+ seconds each. I doubt I'll get under 9:00, I'm hoping for at least 9:05 or under for now.... or just to beat my 9:15 run... that would be a good goal for now. Wink

andrewg

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andrewg: 2009-03-15 06:46:03 pm

2009-03-14 01:11:38 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

I think I'll manage this relatively soon... I'll keep you guys posted.

EDIT: ARGHHH... Messed up on the Wart fight at the end. the time would have definitely been under 9:10 too. It was at 8:54 when I died and I had 2 more hits left on Wart. Sad

Soooo close.

My "Perfect" speedrun times:
1-1 0:59
1-2 1:38
1-3 2:03
4-1 2:52
4-2 3:36
6-1 4:32?
6-2 5:18?
6-3 6:16?
7-1 7:20?
7-2 ?

EDIT:
I've come to the conclusion that the levels 6-1 through 7-2 can be faster. I need to test them out more.

EDIT2:
AHH... I'm so angry, I just got a 9:16! Sad

I don't even understand how that run was that slow. So lame. Angry

andrewg

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andrewg: 2009-03-30 04:04:30 pm

2009-03-30 03:18:13 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

Alright, I think I got a 9:14. One second improvement Undecided

Well, at least I improved it (I think)... Probably won't submit that unless I give up soon.

Man I hate it because the run should have been a 5 second improvement but I got shakey at the end and missed an extra vegetable throw.

EDIT: Also, nevermind. I think the my VCR may have killed my tape anyway. It might be fine, but I definitely need a new TV/VCR to record now Sad

I think the tape may be fine. I can't really find out because I think my VCR isn't working properly now. I'll have to play the tape somewhere else. The stopwatch said 9:14 though, but I'm not satisfied with that anyway. Maybe I'll just submit the tape and see if it's acceptable. I'm kinda done speedrunning Mario 2. And now I can't speedrun anything.

EDIT2: I think my VCR just killed my Mario 2 tape. I think recording is fine. I just can't trust rewinding anything now.

MASTER-88

2009-03-30 03:31:08 pm

Master-88

Nice job Andrew. 1-seconds is quite same as your run, but it is still quite much time, because this your 9.15 was almost perfect in my eyes.

I can feel your pain. As well my Probotector 2 run i can drop at least 5-10 more seconds time off my 16.45 run, but somereason i always make something fucking stupid end of the game.

And yeah Wart is really pain ass on speedrun. I can,t even imagine how hell it is make done perfectly. But i hope you can cut 4-more seconds time off with your run. Wink

Frezy_man

2009-03-31 08:35:45 am

bläää

1 sec. improvement is kinda cool! Congratulations.

You better have to buy a DVD recorder Andrew. I guess you should save some money in the long run. don´t you eat tapes when trying to improve super mario records?

LbLiZzA

2009-10-14 08:26:43 am

The vine/chain jump glitch to get on the roof is simple to do. The level designs are based on tilesets that are all even in size, with a repeated pattern. Look at the pattern in the brick near the top of the wall, get the players feet even with the brick line and move left (which causes the player to fall off the chain. It needs timing, but not too precise. And if you climb too high to a certain point, the climbing animation will automatically take you to the next room) The instant you make contact with the wall after moving off the chain, press jump and you will wall kick and land on top of the wall, bypassing the climb/roomchange zone on the game's tile map. This is obviously a secret, and not a glitch, because when you first enter the room with the conveyor belt and the red birdo, you can see the other room off to the right of the screen. So then, when you kill that first red birdo and look out into the wall on the left side of the screen, a heart will be floating up out in the wall, way out of reach... Hmm? So i tried the logical thing, to get the heart, and found out you can do that trick to get up above the wall... and also found out that it works anywhere with a climb object touching the wall tile at the celing. Be careful though... if you go to the left and drop down, it will take you to the previous rooms of the castle. Dont worry, just do the trick to get yourself back up.

cak

2010-01-06 08:35:02 am

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Whoa.

I didn't have the vcr going so this won't be official, but....
personal record: 8 minutes 54 seconds

Recording tomorrow. I can do it again (only took 6 days of practice).

Riskbreaker Y

2010-01-06 01:25:24 pm

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Quote from cak:

Whoa.

I didn't have the vcr going so this won't be official, but....
personal record: 8 minutes 54 seconds

Recording tomorrow. I can do it again (only took 6 days of practice).

Ummm, goddamn?

If you're serious about beating the smb2 record, then you should know that only runs recorded on a dvd-recorder are accepted here. I think Mike would be willing to convert the vcr recording to whatever format they need but I can't speak for him so don't count on that (i.e. contact him).

Other than that, congrats on that sick time. Maybe you should post some of your strats as I'm sure once andrewg finds out he'll be curious to say the least.

And yet, a second andrewg Mario record is not only under threat but seems ready to fall. The END IS NIGH!!!

andrewg

2010-01-06 03:03:21 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

wow, I'm getting owned lately. This is what I get for not speedrunning much at all this year. Well, oh well.

Seems I don't have much time for speedrunning lately.

Cak, congrats! Maybe sometime this year I'll go on a mario spree again... I seem to speedrun less and less each year though. :/

cak

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cak: 2010-01-06 05:18:40 pm

2010-01-06 05:11:59 pm

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Quote from Riskbreaker Y:

Quote from cak:

Whoa.

I didn't have the vcr going so this won't be official, but....
personal record: 8 minutes 54 seconds

Recording tomorrow. I can do it again (only took 6 days of practice).

Ummm, goddamn?

If you're serious about beating the smb2 record, then you should know that only runs recorded on a dvd-recorder are accepted here. I think Mike would be willing to convert the vcr recording to whatever format they need but I can't speak for him so don't count on that (i.e. contact him).

Other than that, congrats on that sick time. Maybe you should post some of your strats as I'm sure once andrewg finds out he'll be curious to say the least.

And yet, a second andrewg Mario record is not only under threat but seems ready to fall. The END IS NIGH!!!

Thanks for the tip about recording. My strategies are in the FCM attached to this post, though I might try to change a couple things to really optimize the run. I would like to do a perfect run, which is possible (if not exactly probable). The only significant errors I made in the 8:54 were messing up Triclyde and enduring a little game slowdown during Wart. I think the absolute fastest possible would be 8:51, without changing anything shown in the fcm.

[quote="Riskbreaker Y"]
[quote="cak"]
Whoa.

I didn't have the vcr going so this won't be official, but....
personal record: 8 minutes 54 seconds

Recording tomorrow. I can do it again (only took 6 days of practice).
[/quote]

Ummm, goddamn?

If you're serious about beating the smb2 record, then you should know that only runs recorded on a dvd-recorder are accepted here.  I think Mike would be willing to convert the vcr recording to whatever format they need but I can't speak for him so don't count on that (i.e. contact him).

Other than that, congrats on that sick time.  Maybe you should post some of your strats as I'm sure once andrewg finds out he'll be curious to say the least.

And yet, a second andrewg Mario record is not only under threat but seems ready to fall.  The END IS NIGH!!!
[/quote]

Thanks for the tip about recording. My strategies are in the FCM attached to this post, though I might try to change a couple things to really optimize the run. I would like to do a perfect run, which is possible (if not exactly probable). The only significant errors I made in the 8:54 were messing up Triclyde and enduring a little game slowdown during Wart. I think the absolute fastest possible would be 8:51, without changing anything shown in the fcm.

Attachment:

Copy of SMB2 perfect 8_47 point_23.fcm

cak

2010-01-06 05:23:35 pm

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Quote from andrewg:

wow, I'm getting owned lately. This is what I get for not speedrunning much at all this year. Well, oh well.

Seems I don't have much time for speedrunning lately.

Cak, congrats! Maybe sometime this year I'll go on a mario spree again... I seem to speedrun less and less each year though. :/

Thanks Andrew. Yeah I was pretty much done with speedrunning myself, but somehow the NES made it to the living room during x-mas time and one thing lead to another.....

sinister1

2010-01-06 05:59:41 pm

sinister1

so pro u don't even know

Any news on that glitch during MAGFest or was it just the NES?

wea0

2010-01-06 08:00:24 pm

Glitch has been reproduced but does not seem to save time.
http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=222666#222666

Frezy_man

2010-01-10 07:17:21 am

bläää

wow. sounds like you are close to get an 20 second improvement over the current run which seems amazing. I know there is a lot of tight tricks to pull off in the game so if you will able to record it it will lead to an impressive run to watch. Good luck with that.

cak

2010-01-10 09:00:04 am

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Thanks a lot man. I actually started recording today...had one pretty successful attempt going until I messed up in the second to last room. If completed I think it would've been about the same time, 8:54. So many other attempts stalled at 6-1...I'm gonna have to practice that a little more.

andrewg

2010-01-11 01:42:48 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

Quote from cak:

Thanks a lot man. I actually started recording today...had one pretty successful attempt going until I messed up in the second to last room. If completed I think it would've been about the same time, 8:54. So many other attempts stalled at 6-1...I'm gonna have to practice that a little more.

I came close to sub 9 runs in the past, my issue was mainly 6-3 - 7-2. I think with some practice, I might be able to come close to what you're getting. I have a few new strategies/ideas for the run.

cak

2010-01-13 12:33:36 pm

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Basically the only parts that are giving me real trouble are the beginning of 6-1 and the end of 6-3. I'm trying to beat Triclyde without any slowdown, which is pretty rough going. Hawkmouth isn't a problem anymore.

I went through my emu movie and was able to eliminate an easy half sec. There's more that can be done to save time, but most or all of it isn't worth the effort involved imo.

cak

2010-01-14 09:09:43 am

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Well I got to Wart with maybe one second lost and of course blew it. Worse than that though is that my DVD recorder keeps flaking out on me. I may have to borrow or buy another if this keeps up...I'm getting bored of putting in the lens cleaner after every session. Fuck...............