speed run ideas

2004-09-09 09:12:49 pm

There is no impossible just improbable.

I wonder if the people in charge of this site would let me do a metal gear solid 2 run or a tekken 4 run. Let me know what you think.

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Sasa

2004-09-11 05:58:09 pm

keep your friends close but your enemies closer ;)

I am doing a MGS2 run myself at the moment so it should be ok, but you are on the wrong board you should be on the "other game" board

gravity

2004-09-17 10:28:08 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

It would be interesting to see a Quake "time attack" using the slow-motion console setting to make a "perfect" playthrough.

mwh

2004-09-17 11:55:25 am

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It would be interesting to see a Quake "time attack" using the slow-motion console setting to make a "perfect" playthrough.

Meh. I don't think so, myself. trr is pretty close to perfect anyway :-) I don't think you'd save more than a handful of seconds.

Connor

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Connor: 2004-09-18 07:36:48 am

2004-09-17 03:30:29 pm

well you can bunny MUUCH faster in hfr - e.g. i did a 10 sec ER on e4m5, and see phils HFR 100M run

so lots of maps could be done much faster, but IMHO once they start getting really jerky and technical they're not very fun to watch...

*edit* come to think of it i think a HFR 100% project would be pretty darn cool - you could save many minutes over the current overall time with perfect HFR demos Cheesy

(of course thats just what sda needs, ANOTHER unfinshed project)

Stubgaard

2004-09-18 04:34:39 pm

Hey Ho Let's Go

And I personally would never allow such a project to take place on SDA thumbdown

Kay

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Kay: 2004-09-18 10:52:35 pm

2004-09-18 10:49:23 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I second that Stubbz, even though I'm not in charge =)

Basically watching a cheated but perfect run (compared to a perfect hfr 0 run) that any newb could have done wouldn't impress me at all. It's all about the real skills, reflexes, aim etc.

Basically hfr is a totally different game that nobody has practiced for. Who can tell what an optimal hfr run would look like? I sure can't. Simply because we haven't done enough of it. Maybe some of you have run alot in hfr, but I bet we've just scratched the surface as far as the possibillities that lie therein. It's like a totally new game with hfr. All the techniques change etc etc.

More importantly I feel that those kind of run would only serve to give ourselves a bad reputation. Almost like we're claiming to be something that we're not.

Connor

2004-09-19 02:08:57 am

hehe don't get me wrong, I know that it's not a real indication of your quake skills - but I think it would still take some effort to get PERFECT runs in HFR, which can look really cool. After a few tries on e1m1 last night with HFR 0.007, I got 52.3 EH (without using any of the crazy HFR bunny tricks) - it might be cheating but as long as you accept that, it's still fun to watch flawless aiming/bunnies etc Smiley

StrangenessDSS

2004-09-19 07:21:50 am

Sleeping Terror

Perfection by itself is worthless. The value of perfection depends on what it is you're perfecting.

I could, say, spell a word perfectly - does anyone really care?

If you're using tools to make playing the game easier, it makes your "perfection" that much less valuable.

Timinator

2004-09-20 05:55:22 am

18 to the diablo2 holy grail

besides something like this has already been done and released, phils ep1,2,3 HFR quad, godmode run

but with HFR alone doesn't mean you'll be great, i can't bunny in normal, i doubt i could bunny with it slower

Connor

2004-09-20 02:42:27 pm

yeah i dont think kay was right when he said 'any newb' could do perfect hfr runs - it's still challenging, just a different kind of game.

- prove me wrong and beat 51.6 EH for e1m1 in hfr 0.007 kay Wink

Kay

2004-09-21 06:01:43 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Note the "perfect compared to hfr 0/normal run". Like I said, we've just scratched the surface with hfr. Also be aware that not only does hfr reduce the speed of the game so it's easier to do stuff, it alters the very physics of the game itself. Keyboard pitch and yaw speeds are changed for example. You can do crazy shit in slopes especially but also on flat ground because of the altered "surface contact" or what you'd wanna call it. Also it's possible to accellerate in the air much better (think exit out of first pipe on e3m5) etc etc etc....So many things are different.