Are you doing this skip on PC or 360?
PC I'd assume. I can't get it to work though and I tried it on the older version. if anyone can get it to work and wants to post a tutorial that'd be cool
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Alright well using the new 10 attack bonus badge and a couple of other things I hit a 1:36:10 with at least 40 seconds worth of mistakes. So I can see sub 1:35 being very possible. I am going to spend the next couple hours seeing how feasibly low this time can go
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A video of me 2-cycling the Alien Boss encounter.
This would work for 100% but for Any% doesn't getting the Bow more time then it saves?
It is about 2:45 to actually get the bow. Not hugely out of the way as you can do it on the way to getting the gasmask to recruit token and use it on several fights to end them 1 cycle earlier. I'll test the elvish bow you get in the basement of jimmies house and see if it can work.
EDIT: No, elvish bow won't work. Damage is too low inherently and the lack of flame dot doesn't make the pilot run away after 2nd cycle.
FIGURED OUT THE SKIP!!! Thanks to one of my viewers Gnarvin who is also a speed runner of this game. He figured out how to do the skip with a keyboard. So you hold shift and run up to the door, open it while holding shift hold left. While holding hit skip cutscene screen should blink a little and it works. Then you can just run left and go onto chef.
I tried replicating this similar thing on a controller but since sprint and scene skip are on the same button I can't seem to figure out another way to do it. Thanks Gnarvin!! :-)
Edit: He's gonna be doing a run of this now not sure if he is going to stream it or not but, he does plan on making a tutorial video on it. Thanks to groudon199 for finding the skip and Thanks Gnarvin for figuring how to do it on pc.
I tried replicating this similar thing on a controller but since sprint and scene skip are on the same button I can't seem to figure out another way to do it. Thanks Gnarvin!! :-)
Edit: He's gonna be doing a run of this now not sure if he is going to stream it or not but, he does plan on making a tutorial video on it. Thanks to groudon199 for finding the skip and Thanks Gnarvin for figuring how to do it on pc.
Well I'll be damned that was easy. If someone really wants a tutorial video I can bash one out right now.
I did it on a controller aswell. Just have to skip after you see the screen flash.
@2bit. 2:45 could save some time. You'd have to time out the fights up until the second day (as far as the second day goes you can One turn the zombie, and 2 turn butters without healing and 1 turn cartmen so it wouldn't help in day 2)
Also something to ask. Does the bow have 1 slot or 2?
@DarkAries Thiefs do really well in certain parts of the game due to the throwing weapons they're given that stack bleed. The throwing knives you get do amazing damage and if you combined any of them with a Fire patch to put burning on you've got yourself a DoT master. They drop off because there abilities start to tear off into the late game. Backstab's damage isn't all that huge compared to dragons breath or even the normal attacks of a warrior. And the only class who doesn't get a stun on their second ability is the Jew so stunning isn't a huge advantage.
I did it on a controller aswell. Just have to skip after you see the screen flash.
@2bit. 2:45 could save some time. You'd have to time out the fights up until the second day (as far as the second day goes you can One turn the zombie, and 2 turn butters without healing and 1 turn cartmen so it wouldn't help in day 2)
Also something to ask. Does the bow have 1 slot or 2?
@DarkAries Thiefs do really well in certain parts of the game due to the throwing weapons they're given that stack bleed. The throwing knives you get do amazing damage and if you combined any of them with a Fire patch to put burning on you've got yourself a DoT master. They drop off because there abilities start to tear off into the late game. Backstab's damage isn't all that huge compared to dragons breath or even the normal attacks of a warrior. And the only class who doesn't get a stun on their second ability is the Jew so stunning isn't a huge advantage.
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So a couple of new things I've learned since using the +10 patch:
-Now you can completely skip the Alien Probe weapon and kill the Matrix with Regular Attack+Power Attack
-Now that I dont get the probe I equip all of my gear immediately which allows me to DB+Power Attack kill the Security Alien saving time there as well
-Now you can completely skip the Alien Probe weapon and kill the Matrix with Regular Attack+Power Attack
-Now that I dont get the probe I equip all of my gear immediately which allows me to DB+Power Attack kill the Security Alien saving time there as well
Well I've just finished doing a few runs of my warrior with the new skip.
1:44 was the best time i got. Going to be running a few more times tonight. It took around 15 minutes off skipping Mr.Slave but wastes more time for me since I got vital items needed for kenny during Mr.Slave (Anal Crown + 40 Armour Patch)
http://www.twitch.tv/deadscale007/c/3866350 is the link to the VOD. There's also a "tutorial" of the Mr.Slave glitch. I explain how it's done so if anyone has any trouble on doing it. So far I haven't failed at it so the skips very consistant aslong as you press the things in the right order.
Have we decided on whether or not we're having separate class categories? I vote yes since I enjoy my warrior runs. (*cough* and that gives me a WR run *cough*)
1:44 was the best time i got. Going to be running a few more times tonight. It took around 15 minutes off skipping Mr.Slave but wastes more time for me since I got vital items needed for kenny during Mr.Slave (Anal Crown + 40 Armour Patch)
http://www.twitch.tv/deadscale007/c/3866350 is the link to the VOD. There's also a "tutorial" of the Mr.Slave glitch. I explain how it's done so if anyone has any trouble on doing it. So far I haven't failed at it so the skips very consistant aslong as you press the things in the right order.
Have we decided on whether or not we're having separate class categories? I vote yes since I enjoy my warrior runs. (*cough* and that gives me a WR run *cough*)
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Hahaha I am all for different class categories. I mean most games that I can think of that allow different characters that change gameplay all have separate categories for said runs. Yes I know the differences in this game are more minuscule than most but I still think there should be runs for each. And in 100% I would need to see timing differences after we get some good routing but I dont see why not their either. If Any% has a 10+ minute difference depending on class that would probably stretch to 30+ for 100%
I think with a really good run and maybe a few more optimizations, I could get the warrior down to 1:40/1:39. but that's stretching it. And with the new skip I think 1:20 could be possible.
100% wise.. Really It's up in the air. But if you ended the game on kenny I'd say the warrior can deal the most damage since Crab Armour + Anal Crown + Any gloves with 50 armour. with all of the +armour patches and the +1 melee hit is an Insane amount of damage boost. Mage mid-game would still be faster then the warriors. And the Jew could become quite a contender due to the plague ability being really good.
Also Thank god for Craig 1 turn with Kyle.
One thing you don't run into with the mage on Any% is missing levels. but as a warrior since the Slave skip now exists I barely had enough for knight armour on kenny. Although for some reason this makes Chef not use his "Hello children" attack and i can get through him slightly faster.. Wonder why
Also what's your guys take on the censored version being faster? Should we be looking for a way to swap to that one? apparently it's around 2:30 faster.
100% wise.. Really It's up in the air. But if you ended the game on kenny I'd say the warrior can deal the most damage since Crab Armour + Anal Crown + Any gloves with 50 armour. with all of the +armour patches and the +1 melee hit is an Insane amount of damage boost. Mage mid-game would still be faster then the warriors. And the Jew could become quite a contender due to the plague ability being really good.
Also Thank god for Craig 1 turn with Kyle.
One thing you don't run into with the mage on Any% is missing levels. but as a warrior since the Slave skip now exists I barely had enough for knight armour on kenny. Although for some reason this makes Chef not use his "Hello children" attack and i can get through him slightly faster.. Wonder why
Also what's your guys take on the censored version being faster? Should we be looking for a way to swap to that one? apparently it's around 2:30 faster.
Well you are a level lower than when you normally would fight chef and since everything scales to level, he just might be weaker due to being lower level.
I believe someone mentioned this earlier in the thread but, I think for serious attempts at WR we should play the game the way it's ment to be played not a censored version. Unless it becomes a separate catagory, I would only do the censored version for like a marathon run or something along the lines of that.
I believe someone mentioned this earlier in the thread but, I think for serious attempts at WR we should play the game the way it's ment to be played not a censored version. Unless it becomes a separate catagory, I would only do the censored version for like a marathon run or something along the lines of that.
While I do agree with that my real only argument against that (and this isn;t my point of view, just showing the argument off) Is that other games run different versions due to time differences. Be it japanese / german / korean etc. usually it's just due to text like in SM64. But like FF X-2 where an item is available much earlier in the japanese version which saves around an hour (i think) IT's better to run the Jap version.
Personally I think we should just time the difference and add it onto censored runs but that's just my thought.
Personally I think we should just time the difference and add it onto censored runs but that's just my thought.
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As far as my route Mr. Slave takes ~8 Minutes so I dont think the new skip could shave off enough to make it sub 1:20 but my best splits are currently 1:36:58 and those are beatable as well so I think sub 1:28 will be optimal for mage at the moment. And personally I will not be using EU version, and sadly from a speedrunning standpoint I see no reason not to use the faster version. But I dont think censoring should be the reason for a faster run, and I'm sure I will be in the minority in this thought.
Either way though I'd be fine with it, I'd just be about 2:30 behind WR if everyone switches to EU
Either way though I'd be fine with it, I'd just be about 2:30 behind WR if everyone switches to EU
Then I would ask does the censored version exclude any gameplay parts or is it just cutscenes? Because I know at least for X-2 that is also a separate catagory, and like you said most people run other languages is to scroll thru text's faster. So if it affects gameplay it would either have to be a separate catagory or just excluded in totality.
Good point. And Jesus 8 minutes? Warriors sparrow fight takes ages.... I really need to make up more splits for my runs to properly time it.. I only have 6 splits and I constantly forget to split >.<
Ahwell I'm sure we'll get Sub :30 minutes when a new glitch is discovered that means us 1 hit everyone.
Ahwell I'm sure we'll get Sub :30 minutes when a new glitch is discovered that means us 1 hit everyone.