Pikmin 2 improvement (Now on the site!)

Edit history:

Miles: 2010-04-03 08:39:54 pm

2008-05-25 05:46:19 pm

Finished run: http://speeddemosarchive.com/Pikmin2.html

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The run on the site is incredibly outdated, so I'm planning on improving it; right now I'm doing a test run to see if my strategies will work, and if everything goes well I'll start running it after that.

I have no idea what time to expect, but I'm hoping for [sub-3:30, how did I seriously aim for sub-5 at one point? >_>]... Would anyone be interested in watching this?

Completed Segments:
Day 1 (Segment 1)
Day 2 (Segments 2-8, Emergence Cave)
Day 3 part 1 (Segments 9-14, White Flower Garden)
Day 3 part 2 (Segment 15)
Day 3 part 3 (Segments 16-21, Hole of Beasts)
Day 4 part 1 (Segment 22)
Day 4 part 2 (Segments 23-29, Glutton's Kitchen)
Day 5 part 1 (Segments 30-32, Snagret Hole 1-2)
Day 5 part 2 (Segments 33-37, Snagret Hole 3-7)
Day 5 part 3 (Segments 38-46, Bulblax Kingdom)
Day 6 part 1 (Segment 47)
Day 6 part 2 (Segments 48-52, Frontier Cavern 1-5)
Day 6 part 3 (Segments 53-56, Frontier Cavern 6-8)
Day 6 part 4 (Segments 57-63, Subterranean Complex 1-7)
Day 6 part 5 (Segments 64-65, Subterranean Complex 8-9)
Day 7 part 1 (Segment 66)
Day 7 part 2 (Segments 67-74, Shower Room)
Day 7 part 3 (Segments 75-80, Citadel of Spiders)
Day 7 part 4 (Segments 81-86, Submerged Castle)
Day 8 part 1 (Segments 87-91, Cavern of Chaos 1-4)
Day 8 part 2 (Segments 92-97, Cavern of Chaos 5-10)
Day 8 part 3 (Segment 98)
Day 8 part 4 (Segments 99-106, Hole of Heroes 1-8)
Day 8 part 5 (Segments 107-113, Hole of Heroes 9-15)
Day 8 part 6 (Segments 114-121, Dream Den 1-7)
Day 8 part 7 (Segments 122-127, Dream Den 8-13)
Day 8 part 8 (Segment 128, Dream Den 14)

Time saved: 1:51:11.34

Thread title:

Finished run: http://speeddemosarchive.com/Pikmin2.html

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The run on the site is incredibly outdated, so I'm planning on improving it; right now I'm doing a test run to see if my strategies will work, and if everything goes well I'll start running it after that.

I have no idea what time to expect, but I'm hoping for [sub-3:30, how did I seriously aim for sub-5 at one point? >_>]... Would anyone be interested in watching this?

Completed Segments:
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCoDoNcsOW8]Day 1 (Segment 1)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfrLAhi7sfY]Day 2 (Segments 2-8, Emergence Cave)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0EeRtUpHnM]Day 3 part 1 (Segments 9-14, White Flower Garden)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHbCbuVI0lA]Day 3 part 2 (Segment 15)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo2Ok_WYSLk]Day 3 part 3 (Segments 16-21, Hole of Beasts)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz0Z1gild3s]Day 4 part 1 (Segment 22)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfvO6fLTXUs]Day 4 part 2 (Segments 23-29, Glutton's Kitchen)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No9TtDogiDo]Day 5 part 1 (Segments 30-32, Snagret Hole 1-2)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XhWRbjXbKA]Day 5 part 2 (Segments 33-37, Snagret Hole 3-7)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jaGZoL-qnU]Day 5 part 3 (Segments 38-46, Bulblax Kingdom)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfIs8ZiTKj0]Day 6 part 1 (Segment 47)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmOEchflpJQ]Day 6 part 2 (Segments 48-52, Frontier Cavern 1-5)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqRbK14-Uug]Day 6 part 3 (Segments 53-56, Frontier Cavern 6-8)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z-_TBhx7Vs]Day 6 part 4 (Segments 57-63, Subterranean Complex 1-7)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVVLRzipKLQ]Day 6 part 5 (Segments 64-65, Subterranean Complex 8-9)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhxAnG7Gh0s]Day 7 part 1 (Segment 66)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7Je3n3Amas]Day 7 part 2 (Segments 67-74, Shower Room)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2qWyxC59qk]Day 7 part 3 (Segments 75-80, Citadel of Spiders)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XulnTrZGAM]Day 7 part 4 (Segments 81-86, Submerged Castle)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47aYAtpIN7Q]Day 8 part 1 (Segments 87-91, Cavern of Chaos 1-4)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qHO18shE0A]Day 8 part 2 (Segments 92-97, Cavern of Chaos 5-10)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrUcWY_lrN0]Day 8 part 3 (Segment 98)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZGbU9gqxv8]Day 8 part 4 (Segments 99-106, Hole of Heroes 1-8)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h99oHRvnt44]Day 8 part 5 (Segments 107-113, Hole of Heroes 9-15)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF_VV0aGAco]Day 8 part 6 (Segments 114-121, Dream Den 1-7)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s6JCBK6qcw]Day 8 part 7 (Segments 122-127, Dream Den 8-13)[/url]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbPhdU_soK8]Day 8 part 8 (Segment 128, Dream Den 14)[/url]

Time saved: 1:51:11.34

Wolfz

2008-05-25 06:07:49 pm

Let's go 2k11!

I would watch it.

If you do plan to finish the run, Good luck!

Paused

2008-05-26 05:30:22 pm

I would watch it.

mobilisq

2008-05-27 02:09:32 pm

WHAT

Heard, so would I.

Sorcerer88

2008-05-27 04:00:16 pm

I have no solution, but i admire the problem.

I would after i'd played the game Wink

can only be years. If you really liked Pikmin 1, what's Pikmin 2 like? A buzz or just nice?

tkrausse

2008-05-27 06:31:32 pm

Quote:

I would after i'd played the game Wink

can only be years. If you really liked Pikmin 1, what's Pikmin 2 like? A buzz or just nice?

Take everything in Pikmin, and make it better (except the story), and you end up with Pikmin 2. If you like the original, you'll like this one as well.

Miles

2008-06-05 07:29:24 pm

Day 1 (Segment 1)
Day 2 (Segments 2-8)

Miles

2008-06-09 12:26:56 pm

Day 3 part 1 (segments 9-14)

I've saved about 137 seconds up to this point...

Wolfz

2008-06-09 03:20:10 pm

Let's go 2k11!

How much time are you aiming to save?

The run looks good so far by the way.

I eat tables

2008-06-09 04:16:23 pm

This run is very impressive, so far. I quite like the route you're taking, too - it definitely surprised me, but it's certainly faster than the current run.

Have you got any idea what the final time will be like? I was surprised to see the current run is over 5 hours (it didn't seem that long!), so, sub-5? sub 4:30?

n.b. I'm a regular lurker here, but I rarely see occasion to post. I'm pretty active at GFaqs, and I noticed you posted what you have so far there.

Greenalink

2008-06-09 04:47:20 pm

DS Dictator

I only saw the latest video so far (I was using the Wii with slow video steam speed). In the PAL version the batteries are gold yellow + black named "Duracell".The batteries I saw are different from your video (US version probably). Seems impressive so far.

Birkal

2008-06-09 07:21:23 pm

Handsome Squidward is handsome.

Haha, you're doing a very good job. I've watched your 45 Pikmin Challenge before and it was quite good. You're already doing great here, so keep up the good work!

Skillface

2008-06-09 09:32:24 pm

I HAVE NO GREETING

Great job so far, keep it up.

I'm very interested in seeing how this turns out.

Miles

2008-06-10 09:43:04 am

Honestly, I have no idea what time I'm going to get... Sub-5 for sure, but I don't know how far below that.

Day 3 part 2

InsipidMuckyWater

2008-06-10 11:14:32 am

Visit my profile to see my runs!

Keep it up! Looking forward to this.

Miles

2008-06-11 12:25:09 am

Day 3 part 3 (segments 16-21)

I'm currently about 9:20 ahead (!), though I lose about 30 seconds later when I get the bitter spray.

Zurreco

2008-07-12 04:31:12 am

Just call me the cynicism machine

Will there be no more periodic updates to this thread?

Miles

2008-07-14 11:04:58 pm

I actually still haven't completed the next segment. :\

Rex McPwn

2008-07-24 05:03:31 am

I take it you're Miles on cyberscore?

I was going to have a bash at this and the 10k pokos run later this month after playing some challenge mode recently. I think I will wait and see what you produce first though as the run looks pretty nice to me. Keep up the good work.

Am I also right in thinking SDA won't accept challenge mode for pikmin? It is effectively speed running since the best points are achieved with the fastest runs. =\

LadyKrile

Edit history:

LadyKrile: 2008-07-24 11:56:15 pm

2008-07-24 09:36:00 pm

Since the current run is pretty much 100%, has anyone planned a route for any%? (As in, fastest time to collect 10,000 pokos)

Quote from Rex McPwn:

Am I also right in thinking SDA won't accept challenge mode for pikmin? It is effectively speed running since the best points are achieved with the fastest runs. =\

Doing a speed run for challenge mode is not the same as getting the most points. A speed run would only collect the key on each floor in order to complete the floor fastest, skipping the other treasures to save time.

Rex McPwn

2008-07-25 04:31:15 am

I see. So challenge high scores are not welcome. They are in affect 100% runs though (all treasure no death) surely if you are saying only the key is a min % run?.

I could make vids of both though if they were wanted but I guess not Sad

Miles has a decent any % run of 2:18 though faster is definitely possible. I made like 2:47 on a completely unplanned bash through. I think it may require even more planning than the 100% though since you will want to finish with exactly 10k or very close to 10k pokos.

LadyKrile

2008-07-25 12:11:12 pm

Quote from Rex McPwn:

I see. So challenge high scores are not welcome. They are in affect 100% runs though (all treasure no death) surely if you are saying only the key is a min % run?.

I could make vids of both though if they were wanted but I guess not Sad

Miles has a decent any % run of 2:18 though faster is definitely possible. I made like 2:47 on a completely unplanned bash through. I think it may require even more planning than the 100% though since you will want to finish with exactly 10k or very close to 10k pokos.

I would like to see challenge mode key-only videos, so don't think there isn't anyone who wants them. I'm not sure about high scores being allowed or not, but I think key-only, being the fastest time, is more likely to be allowed. Is there any evidence (other than the score) that you collected all treasures in a level in challenge mode?

By the way, a low% challenge mode would have pretty much no point going for speed, because you would have to wait out the timer for the lowest score. I would consider key-only to be any% challenge mode.

Is there a video of the any% run? I would want to watch it more than the 100%. (Not that I wouldn't watch the 100% when the parts so far are this good, it's just that I haven't collected all the treasures yet, especially in Wistful Wild.) This seems to be one of the times when any% takes more planning than 100%.

[quote="Rex McPwn"]
I see. So challenge high scores are not welcome. They are in affect 100% runs though (all treasure no death) surely if you are saying only the key is a min % run?.

I could make vids of both though if they were wanted but I guess not :(

Miles has a decent any % run of 2:18 though faster is definitely possible. I made like 2:47 on a completely unplanned bash through. I think it may require even more planning than the 100% though since you will want to finish with exactly 10k or very close to 10k pokos.  
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I would like to see challenge mode key-only videos, so don't think there isn't anyone who wants them. I'm not sure about high scores being allowed or not, but I think key-only, being the fastest time, is more likely to be allowed. Is there any evidence (other than the score) that you collected all treasures in a level in challenge mode?

By the way, a low% challenge mode would have pretty much no point going for speed, because you would have to wait out the timer for the lowest score. I would consider key-only to be any% challenge mode.

Is there a video of the any% run? I would want to watch it more than the 100%. (Not that I wouldn't watch the 100% when the parts so far are this good, it's just that I haven't collected all the treasures yet, especially in Wistful Wild.) This seems to be one of the times when any% takes more planning than 100%.

Greenpickle

2008-07-25 12:52:24 pm

Hmm, so Challenge Mode runs like those I've uploaded to YouTube ( would be accepted as runs here? In that case, I might be interested in ironing out the errors in those and making some proper attempts at them.

Rex McPwn

Edit history:

Rex McPwn: 2008-07-25 03:30:56 pm

2008-07-25 03:25:21 pm

Quote from Infinite1up:

I would like to see challenge mode key-only videos, so don't think there isn't anyone who wants them. I'm not sure about high scores being allowed or not, but I think key-only, being the fastest time, is more likely to be allowed. Is there any evidence (other than the score) that you collected all treasures in a level in challenge mode?

By the way, a low% challenge mode would have pretty much no point going for speed, because you would have to wait out the timer for the lowest score. I would consider key-only to be any% challenge mode.

Is there a video of the any% run? I would want to watch it more than the 100%. (Not that I wouldn't watch the 100% when the parts so far are this good, it's just that I haven't collected all the treasures yet, especially in Wistful Wild.) This seems to be one of the times when any% takes more planning than 100%.

I'm pretty sure on each floor you max you get a power down noise like when you have maxed a cave out though this may not include enemies. I would have to check. I am pretty sure the max treasure score for each level is known though. It isn't hard. I don't mind at all if they would not be accepted but the way I see it, it's against the clock and most people will find getting all treasure on a level quite simple.

Ok maybe I misunderstood the low%/any% descriptions but you know what I mean Tongue

I don't think there is a video, I just know of his time. I am certainly with you that any % takes much more planning. You need to dig out the calculator and give each item some sort of treasure to time value and take into account what enemies you can carry in whilst the treasure is coming back to the nosecone.

Also to the above poster, your comment for Trampled garden talks about Brawny Abyss.

[quote="Infinite1up"]

I would like to see challenge mode key-only videos, so don't think there isn't anyone who wants them. I'm not sure about high scores being allowed or not, but I think key-only, being the fastest time, is more likely to be allowed. Is there any evidence (other than the score) that you collected all treasures in a level in challenge mode?

By the way, a low% challenge mode would have pretty much no point going for speed, because you would have to wait out the timer for the lowest score. I would consider key-only to be any% challenge mode.

Is there a video of the any% run? I would want to watch it more than the 100%. (Not that I wouldn't watch the 100% when the parts so far are this good, it's just that I haven't collected all the treasures yet, especially in Wistful Wild.) This seems to be one of the times when any% takes more planning than 100%.
[/quote]

I'm pretty sure on each floor you max you get a power down noise like when you have maxed a cave out though this may not include enemies. I would have to check. I am pretty sure the max treasure score for each level is known though. It isn't hard. I don't mind at all if they would not be accepted but the way I see it, it's against the clock and most people will find getting all treasure on a level quite simple.

Ok maybe I misunderstood the low%/any% descriptions but you know what I mean :P

I don't think there is a video, I just know of his time. I am certainly with you that any % takes much more planning. You need to dig out the calculator and give each item some sort of treasure to time value and take into account what enemies you can carry in whilst the treasure is coming back to the nosecone.

Also to the above poster, your comment for Trampled garden talks about Brawny Abyss.

Greenpickle

2008-07-25 03:30:21 pm

...Fixed. All but the word 'Brawny Abyss' applied to that video; I just copied the intro and forgot to replace it...