People with Big Egos Part 2 (WARNING STORY INSIDE)

2005-06-04 12:09:09 pm

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Ok got some more questions I need some answering.

#1 My friend has had a high score on a game called Capcom vs Snk 2, know the reason I said had was because I just beat it. It was like 2790 with Shin Akuma. I beat his record with the same Character except for the end were I died on purpose to use E-Honda,Blanka,Sagat just to make sure I don't lose points. I ended the game with a score of 3678. Know after the game I didnt say anything and his brother was in the room and calls for my Egotistical friend. He comes in and see what I did and says

(Friend) How did you get that score, let me guess you had it on the easiest difficulty, what a newb you probley used my combo I made up and used Shin Akuma you copier, you have no skill at all, stop playing trying to beat me because you can't o and you are a noob for switching Shin Akuma with 3 of the worst Characters in the game E-Honda,Blanka,Sagat what kind of team is that.

(I said) Ok first off I did the same difficulty you did, 2nd I did use Shin Akuma and 3rd no I didnt copy your combo.
and the reason I got Shin Akuma killed was because I didnt want to bother losing points over something I know I can beat with those 3 characters.

(friend) What ever, You will never be better then I will just forget it. (Brother Backs him up) ya hes god at everygame he plays. and Plus your so gay(cheap) because you throw your a Newb if you use that in a game or to win.

(friend) Leaves Room...

Ok you get the idea what Im going through the funny thing is when we play VS mode in some game I can win more times then he can but the thing about him is when he pulls of some move,combo what ever once in the game he says "O you see that skill what I like to see you try it."
and even though I beat him alot of the time he just cant admit anyone is better then him. its like nothing gets through to him at all what ever you say does nothing. and the thing that really pisses me off is that he tells everyone on the bus that he's the best and no one can beat me. And one more thing to add to this is His Brother. Its pointless saying that you are better. Because his brother always backs hims up by saying "Ya well, your good but my brother is God" and he keeps saying this shit. Its Mad annoying. Please if you can give me Tips, things to do or something.

O ya and when ever I try the silent treatment they think Im a mute or retarded and cant talk or come up with some bullshit comment like "What what, Cat got your Tongue, Ha ha you can't beat me dont even try it" Thanks if you can help me out guys.

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Ok got some more questions I need some answering.

#1 My friend has had a high score on a game called [color=Yellow]Capcom vs Snk 2[/color], know the reason I said had was because I just beat it. It was like 2790 with Shin Akuma. I beat his record with the same Character except for the end were I died on purpose to use E-Honda,Blanka,Sagat just to make sure I don't lose points. I ended the game with a score of 3678. Know after the game I didnt say anything and his brother was in the room and calls for my Egotistical friend. He comes in and see what I did and says

(Friend) How did you get that score, let me guess you had it on the easiest difficulty, what a newb you probley used my combo I made up and used Shin Akuma you copier, you have no skill at all, stop playing trying to beat me because you can't o and you are a noob for switching Shin Akuma with 3 of the worst Characters in the game E-Honda,Blanka,Sagat what kind of team is that.

(I said) Ok first off I did the same difficulty you did, 2nd I did use Shin Akuma and 3rd no I didnt copy your combo.
and the reason I got Shin Akuma killed was because I didnt want to bother losing points over something I know I can beat with those 3 characters.

(friend) What ever, You will never be better then I will just forget it. (Brother Backs him up) ya hes god at everygame he plays. and Plus your so gay(cheap) because you throw your a Newb if you use that in a game or to win.

(friend) Leaves Room...

Ok you get the idea what Im going through the funny thing is when we play VS mode in some game I can win more times then he can but the thing about him is when he pulls of some move,combo what ever once in the game he says "O you see that skill what I like to see you try it."
and even though I beat him alot of the time he just cant admit anyone is better then him. its like nothing gets through to him at all what ever you say does nothing. and the thing that really pisses me off is that he tells everyone on the bus that he's the best and no one can beat me. And one more thing to add to this is His Brother. Its pointless saying that you are better. Because his brother always backs hims up by saying "Ya well, your good but my brother is God" and he keeps saying this shit. Its Mad annoying. Please if you can give me Tips, things to do or something.

O ya and when ever I try the silent treatment they think Im a mute or retarded and cant talk or come up with some bullshit comment like "What what, Cat got your Tongue, Ha ha you can't beat me dont even try it" Thanks if you can help me out guys.

Blublu

2005-06-04 04:48:00 pm

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Sounds like he's an asshole. Why do you hang around with him?

Gorash

2005-06-04 06:22:35 pm

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How old are you, your friend, and his brother if I may ask?

CaptainJack

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CaptainJack: 2005-06-04 09:44:17 pm

2005-06-04 09:40:01 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I am 17

Egotistical Friend 16

Brother 18

So what do you think a good thing to do is. His brother isnt that bad (at least some of the time) its just when you play games around them they turn into ass holes. Or if ones in the room and the others playing the brother backs him up and it reall pisses me off, I really think theres a macherty thing going on as well.So what do you think I should do?

Hitaro

2005-06-04 09:59:28 pm

Pretty much what I'm wondering about, next to what you should do, is why you even CONSIDER him a friend? A friend is someone who trusts you, who YOU can trust, not some scrub who's too dense to believe that he's "a god!!!111!!!lolololllolololzolzolzo!". Of course, if he has an account in this forum, it would seem less arrogant than if you would call him "a freakin' bastard", but a scrub like him shouldn't even know a site like this. Of course, that's his problem, not yours.

Anyway, back to topic.

He just seems like one of the common n00bs in this world, living in delusion. His brother seems to be the same, but it would seem as if he's just plain worse. And beacause he's worst, if he tells everyone that "he's a Gawd!!!111!!oneoneeleven!!", his brother might find a "witty remark" to show that he's better.

Now for the actual advice (took a while, I know.)

Hmm...this is rather though for me... The thing I do (yes, it's the same for me, but for a different sobject other than video games; I've never played ANYTHING against ANYONE at my scholl...) is ignore then. No, I just don't mean ignore them untill they yell out stuff like "are you deaf or something??", I mean ignoring until further notice. Yes, it might seem though, having the agonny of multiple insults in your mind, but in a while, they'll just shut up. Well, I hope... Also, I don't mean ignoring as in walking away from them, I mean walking right by them and acting as if they're not even there. If you see them, all gagned up in your path, go right THROUGH them, neglecting bumps, and not even look at them. Obviously, you might not be able to handle the insults in your first try, but with people like them, I don't know what better to do. Since they probably won't be able to change their minds, they might at least stop bugging you. Yes, it WILL take a while, but just ignore them and improve your game, just in case he desides to "challenge you". Of course, that DID happen to me, but they were just 4th graders (strange, 4th grader insulting an 8th grader...crappy students...), so of course, I can't assure it. Heck he might be able to miraculously find a way to counter you, but since he's a n00b, it's not likely.

Crap, that paragraph was long...Bah, now for your personal advice.

If you have ANY doubt what-so-ever that he might be wrong, just read the texts at www.sirlin.net . Yes, they're long, but it's like a good novel; You start reading it, then you suddenly just want to read it ALL. I especially advise you the texts about "Playing to win", the first one in particular. It just plain PROVES that you are indeed the better player, unless you're just making it all up, wich I doubt.

Hope this helps. And I won't blame you if you just neglect all of this; most of this is just theory.

As a final note, if you want to try my "permanent ignore" theory, want might REALLY piss them of, is to walk with many of your friends, talking to them, and passing through them. It will show them that you aren't either deaf OR mute, simply bored of them/ignoring them. Of course, beacause of the way you described them, they might not think AT ALL.

Good luck, and happy Kicking-their-asses!

Pretty much what I'm wondering about, next to what you should do, is why you even CONSIDER him a friend? A friend is someone who trusts you, who YOU can trust, not some scrub who's too dense to believe that he's "a god!!!111!!!lolololllolololzolzolzo!". Of course, if he has an account in this forum, it would seem less arrogant than if you would call him "a freakin' bastard", but a scrub like him shouldn't even know a site like this. Of course, that's his problem, not yours.

Anyway, back to topic.

He just seems like one of the common n00bs in this world, living in delusion. His brother seems to be the same, but it would seem as if he's just plain worse. And beacause he's worst, if he tells everyone that "he's a Gawd!!!111!!oneoneeleven!!", his brother might find a "witty remark" to show that he's better.

Now for the actual advice (took a while, I know.)

Hmm...this is rather though for me... The thing I do (yes, it's the same for me, but for a different sobject other than video games; I've never played ANYTHING against ANYONE at my scholl...) is ignore then. No, I just don't mean ignore them untill they yell out stuff like "are you deaf or something??", I mean ignoring until further notice. Yes, it might seem though, having the agonny of multiple insults in your mind, but in a while, they'll just shut up. Well, I hope... Also, I don't mean ignoring as in walking away from them, I mean walking right by them and acting as if they're not even there. If you see them, all gagned up in your path, go right THROUGH them, neglecting bumps, and not even look at them. Obviously, you might not be able to handle the insults in your first try, but with people like them, I don't know what better to do. Since they probably won't be able to change their minds, they might at least stop bugging you. Yes, it WILL take a while, but just ignore them and improve your game, just in case he desides to "challenge you". Of course, that DID happen to me, but they were just 4th graders (strange, 4th grader insulting an 8th grader...crappy students...), so of course, I can't assure it. Heck he might be able to miraculously find a way to counter you, but since he's a n00b, it's not likely.

Crap, that paragraph was long...Bah, now for your personal advice.

If you have ANY doubt what-so-ever that he might be wrong, just read the texts at www.sirlin.net . Yes, they're long, but it's like a good novel; You start reading it, then you suddenly just want to read it ALL. I especially advise you the texts about "Playing to win", the first one in particular. It just plain PROVES that you are indeed the better player, unless you're just making it all up, wich I doubt.

Hope this helps. And I won't blame you if you just neglect all of this; most of this is just theory.

As a final note, if you want to try my "permanent ignore" theory, want might REALLY piss them of, is to walk with many of your friends, talking to them, and passing through them. It will show them that you aren't either deaf OR mute, simply bored of them/ignoring them. Of course, beacause of the way you described them, they might not think AT ALL.

Good luck, and happy Kicking-their-asses!

Gorash

2005-06-04 10:38:17 pm

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Hmm, I hope my advice will be shorter that my previous speakers novel.

The reason I asked about your age is that adolescent males tend to have a very solid self-confidence (read: they're total assholes with heads so swollen they shouldn't even fit through a door) with the peak being at that age of your friend. (I estimated the brother to be younger though...)

The point as you probably have guessed yet is that you're not far from the magical age yourself. I can't and won't tell you how right he is or you are, because frankly, getting mad at someone stating he's better doesn't sound too reasonable to me either...

Some advice:

1. It's a freaking game. Don't take it too seriously.
2. If he's that obsessed with being the number one... who cares? There is no mating bonus on being number one in town in a random beat'em'up game. You can still play with him.
3. If you still play with him but do care and the discussion arises again, wait until you beat him in a match and then challenge him officially. Make a small tournament, make solid rules and get the matter settled.
4. If you think everything else failed, annoying is easy. A simple "3678" muttered in his presence can't fail to work. Either he comments on it (likely to result in him whining about your suicide tactics) or he ignores it (results in you having even more fun every time you mention it), but if you think he's being an asshole be aware that it's easy to make an asshole out of yourself this way. This advice isn't point 4 for nothing.

Hmm, I hope my advice will be shorter that my previous speakers novel.

The reason I asked about your age is that adolescent males tend to have a very solid self-confidence (read: they're total assholes with heads so swollen they shouldn't even fit through a door) with the peak being at that age of your friend. (I estimated the brother to be younger though...)

The point as you probably have guessed yet is that you're not far from the magical age yourself. I can't and won't tell you how right he is or you are, because frankly, getting mad at someone stating he's better doesn't sound too reasonable to me either...

Some advice:

1. It's a freaking game. Don't take it too seriously.
2. If he's that obsessed with being the number one... who cares? There is no mating bonus on being number one in town in a random beat'em'up game. You can still play with him.
3. If you still play with him but do care and the discussion arises again, wait until you beat him in a match and then challenge him officially. Make a small tournament, make solid rules and get the matter settled.
4. If you think everything else failed, annoying is easy. A simple "3678" muttered in his presence can't fail to work. Either he comments on it (likely to result in him whining about your suicide tactics) or he ignores it (results in you having even more fun every time you mention it), but if you think he's being an asshole be aware that it's easy to make an asshole out of yourself this way. This advice isn't point 4 for nothing.

Hitaro

2005-06-04 11:10:04 pm

Nice SHORT comments, Gorash. I forgot the "Who the hell cares who's better??" lecture and I don't feel like typing them in right now.

All of you're suggestions were good, except for the "whisper 3678 in his ear" thing. If he would do that, the "friend" would probably say something like: "d00dz, watre y00 sayyng???" because he probably won't remeber that number, just 'cause it's the new record. Most n00bs have an attention span of 5 minutes, when it comes to numbers.

CaptainJack

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CaptainJack: 2005-06-04 11:48:13 pm

2005-06-04 11:27:03 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Ya, and you cant really talk to him, being that his ego is so gigantic nothing gets through its like talking to a brick wall except with lots of Talkingback and bull shit comments. O and if I would of whisperd in my friends ear about getting "3678" as my score he would say "Ya well, you still cant be me so don't even try it." He also says hes the best Final Fantasy 10 player, just because his characters can do 9,999 damage and that he has all the legendary stuff. Know if he would of found all that shit on his own I would be semi impressed, but he looked at GameFaqs just to get all the stuff (Not saying that Gamefaqs is a bad thing, I get all my Strats, and Techniques from that site) but to say that hes the best at a Game just by spending alot of time on it getting the Strongest Characters and gathering all the items is just dumb, the reason I say this is because I know for a fact alot of other people did the same exact thing he did its not really a big suprise. But when I tell him that alot of other people do what you do or even better, he would reply with "Ya, right" or "They probley cheated or something." Also if you want a prime example of a person with a huge ego hear this.

(Me) So, I just beat Final Fantasty 10 for the first time I loved the game the story was great...

(Egotistical Friend) Ya, So what party did you use?

(Me) O I used, Tidus,Yuna,Rikku and Tidus,Waka,Rikku

(Egotistical Friend) O my god, Rikku sucks why do you use her at all. Shes probley the lamest character in the game.
IT'S all about Tidus,Yuna,Walka that teams the best no one can beat them.

(Me) I'm sorry didn't realise that Final Fantasy was a competitive game. You know if you think you are so GODLY at the game why dont you do a low level run or a Tidus only game or both.

(Egotisical Friend) O it is, and by the way gathering all the items in the game, and taking the time to collect all the stuff is by far harder then beating the game at low level.

(Me) Then why dont you try it?

(Egotisical Friend) See, Unlike you I have a life (brother backs him up) ya don't even try to beat my brother hes GOD at everything hes does, but dont take it personally.
(Egotistical Friend) Leaves...

This was the part that really aggrovated me, not because the game I could care less but the way they say it, it just drive me nuts. :wallbash:

Ya, and you cant really talk to him, being that his ego is so gigantic nothing gets through its like talking to a brick wall except with lots of Talkingback and bull shit comments. O and if I would of whisperd in my friends ear about getting "3678" as my score he would say "Ya well, you still cant be me so don't even try it." He also says hes the best Final Fantasy 10 player, just because his characters can do 9,999 damage and that he has all the legendary stuff. Know if he would of found all that shit on his own I would be semi impressed, but he looked at [color=Yellow]GameFaqs[/color] just to get all the stuff (Not saying that Gamefaqs is a bad thing, I get all my Strats, and Techniques from that site) but to say that hes the best at a Game just by spending alot of time on it getting the Strongest Characters and gathering all the items is just dumb, the reason I say this is because I know for a fact alot of other people did the same exact thing he did its not really a big suprise. But when I tell him that alot of other people do what you do or even better, he would reply with "Ya, right" or "They probley cheated or something." Also if you want a prime example of a person with a huge ego hear this.

(Me) So, I just beat Final Fantasty 10 for the first time I loved the game the story was great...

(Egotistical Friend) Ya, So what party did you use?

(Me) O I used, Tidus,Yuna,Rikku and Tidus,Waka,Rikku

(Egotistical Friend) O my god, Rikku sucks why do you use her at all. Shes probley the lamest character in the game.
IT'S all about Tidus,Yuna,Walka that teams the best no one can beat them.

(Me) I'm sorry didn't realise that Final Fantasy was a competitive game. You know if you think you are so GODLY at the game why dont you do a low level run or a Tidus only game or both.

(Egotisical Friend) O it is, and by the way gathering all the items in the game, and taking the time to collect all the stuff is by far harder then beating the game at low level.

(Me) Then why dont you try it?

(Egotisical Friend) See, Unlike you I have a life (brother backs him up) ya don't even try to beat my brother hes GOD at everything hes does, but dont take it personally.
(Egotistical Friend) Leaves...

This was the part that really aggrovated me, not because the game I could care less but the way they say it, it just drive me nuts.  :wallbash:

Gorash

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Gorash: 2005-06-05 12:33:50 am

2005-06-05 12:14:44 am

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"Ya well, you still cant be me so don't even try it."

Well, I like pointless discussions (read a copy of Alice in Wonderland for more footage)... so the reply would be "Who would want to be the one with the inferior score?" but friendly teasing like that is not for everyone Wink

I think one of the best discussions I've ever had was a friend of mine stating he was a dragon, and me saying "no you're not". The following discussion was something like this:
"You don't look like a dragon"
"I don't because I'm in disguise"
"How would a dragon would fit into a human sized disguise?"
"It's a magical disguise."
"So now you can do magic too?"
"Don't you remember Shadowrun? Everyone knows dragons are magical creatures"
"Yeah, but those dragons also were pretty rich"
"I am. I also am president of <major company>"
"I failed to notice both of that"
"That's because it's part of my disguise not to let people know of it"
...

The discussion went on for over 2 hours like that and I honestly failed to prove him wrong.... was fun nevertheless Wink

Back to topic:
You are right about there not being much to get him off of his high horse. But like I told you above you can try to show him how ridiculous it is to keep arguing over such a matter by pushing him slightly into admitting it to himself. That is if you value him as a friend in all other parts. If not you are free to dump him of course, but I reckon that's not what you had in mind.

EDIT: (If you edit, I'm allowed too)
See, if he would have been a god player at FFX he would have known that the chars are basically totally equal once you refactured the whole sphere grid, the only difference remaining is the condition on which the ultimate weapons do 99,999 dam (with 5 9s), the extra stuff on those weapons, Yuna having summon and Tidus Wakka and Rikkku being able to fight underwater. This is totally irrelevant for the actual plot though since you can beat the final Yu Pagoda with one strike by then.

But that's totally unrelated to the fact that you let yourself draw to argue about the games goal. Any games goal is whatever the heck you want it to. If your goal in the game differs from his, then it's no wonder you don't reach his idea of godliness.

The correct response to "It's all about..." is "So what, my party worked for me, why should I use another?" btw.

[quote] "Ya well, you still cant be me so don't even try it."[/quote]
Well, I like pointless discussions (read a copy of Alice in Wonderland for more footage)... so the reply would be "Who would want to be the one with the inferior score?" but friendly teasing like that is not for everyone ;)

I think one of the best discussions I've ever had was a friend of mine stating he was a dragon, and me saying "no you're not". The following discussion was something like this:
"You don't look like a dragon"
"I don't because I'm in disguise"
"How would a dragon would fit into a human sized disguise?"
"It's a magical disguise."
"So now you can do magic too?"
"Don't you remember Shadowrun? Everyone knows dragons are magical creatures"
"Yeah, but those dragons also were pretty rich"
"I am. I also am president of <major company>"
"I failed to notice both of that"
"That's because it's part of my disguise not to let people know of it"
...

The discussion went on for over 2 hours like that and I honestly failed to prove him wrong.... was fun nevertheless ;)

Back to topic:
You are right about there not being much to get him off of his high horse. But like I told you above you can try to show him how ridiculous it is to keep arguing over such a matter by pushing him slightly into admitting it to himself. That is if you value him as a friend in all other parts. If not you are free to dump him of course, but I reckon that's not what you had in mind.

EDIT: (If you edit, I'm allowed too)
See, if he would have been a god player at FFX he would have known that the chars are basically totally equal once you refactured the whole sphere grid, the only difference remaining is the condition on which the ultimate weapons do 99,999 dam (with 5 9s), the extra stuff on those weapons, Yuna having summon and Tidus Wakka and Rikkku being able to fight underwater. This is totally irrelevant for the actual plot though since you can beat the final Yu Pagoda with one strike by then.

But that's totally unrelated to the fact that you let yourself draw to argue about the games goal. Any games goal is whatever the heck you want it to. If your goal in the game differs from his, then it's no wonder you don't reach his idea of godliness.

The correct response to "It's all about..." is "So what, my party worked for me, why should I use another?" btw.

Hitaro

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Hitaro: 2005-06-05 01:50:36 am

2005-06-05 01:46:57 am

*gasp!* I just notice somehing that makes me laugh! Cheesy

It seems as if you're friend is dependant on his older brother, wich PROVES that he sucks. If he would be able to "prove that he's godly", he should be able to do it by himself, without the help of his older brother. Also, I wonder why his older brother even CONSIDERS helping him. Is it for brotherly love? Showing-off to friends that his younger brother is "godly"? Who knows except for him? I, for one, think that both of them are simply pathetic n00bs trying to create the illusion that either one is good.

Sorry, no good argument here...since everybody at my school seems to suck at video games...D:

Woah, I type that, like, in a minute! Tongue

Edit: Other thing I noticed, just after I posted this:

Why does "your friend" always hang around with his older brother? Is he too freakin' weak/pathetic to even be left out of his sight? Or is he just trying to look "strong" beacause he has "muscles" behind him, making the other poeple believe what the older brother says; claiming that his brother is godly? Either way, there's no denying it: BOTH OF THEM SUCK.<

Well, yeah, they might deny it...but of course, we know what's true.

*gasp!* I just notice somehing that makes me laugh! :D

It seems as if you're friend is dependant on his older brother, wich PROVES that he sucks. If he would be able to "prove that he's godly", he should be able to do it by himself, without the help of his older brother. Also, I wonder why his older brother even CONSIDERS helping him. Is it for brotherly love? Showing-off to friends that his younger brother is "godly"? Who knows except for him? I, for one, think that both of them are simply pathetic n00bs trying to create the illusion that either one is good.

Sorry, no good argument here...since everybody at my school seems to suck at video games...D:

Woah, I type that, like, in a minute! :P

Edit: Other thing I noticed, just after I posted this:

Why does "your friend" always hang around with his older brother? Is he too freakin' weak/pathetic to even be left out of his sight? Or is he just trying to look "strong" beacause he has "muscles" behind him, making the other poeple believe what the older brother says; claiming that his brother is godly? Either way, there's no denying it: BOTH OF THEM SUCK.<

Well, yeah, they might deny it...but of course, we know what's true.

CaptainJack

2005-06-05 05:26:23 am

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Well put Hitaro, see the thing is, the little brother who is 16 has to trash talk because its the only way he can build his Selfasteam in other words Make himself feel better to make sure that hes the best and no one else can come close. And then theres the brother who is BiPolar, Bipolar is when you flip/flop (Like something and then soon after Not like it) in a manner of speaking. For example say you like something say "The Matrix" During the period of time when the Matrix is Showing in the movie theater, he will love the matrix and say that everything sucks except for that, then lets say the new "Starwars" movie comes out, he will totally drop the Matrix and go for "Starwars" and say that the Matrix sucked or something like that. ( I just realised as I'm writing this that hes not only bipolar but very Byest as well.) So to sum this all up 16 year old Little brother friend has a Ego the size of the sun and a brother who likes something for a week or what ever and then hate it once something else comes out. (BiPolar) mayby thats why the older brother cheers his younger brother on:worship:, what do you think?

Well put [color=Yellow]Hitaro[/color], see the thing is, the little brother who is 16 has to trash talk because its the only way he can build his [color=Yellow]Selfasteam[/color] in other words Make himself feel better to make sure that hes the best and no one else can come close. And then theres the brother who is [color=Yellow]BiPolar[/color], Bipolar is when you flip/flop (Like something and then soon after Not like it) in a manner of speaking. For example say you like something say "The Matrix" During the period of time when the Matrix is Showing in the movie theater, he will love the matrix and say that everything sucks except for that, then lets say the new "Starwars" movie comes out, he will totally drop the Matrix and go for "Starwars" and say that the Matrix sucked or something like that. ( I just realised as I'm writing this that hes not only bipolar but very Byest as well.) So to sum this all up 16 year old Little brother friend has a Ego the size of the sun and a brother who likes something for a week or what ever and then hate it once something else comes out. ([color=Yellow]BiPolar[/color]) mayby thats why the older brother cheers his younger brother on:worship:, what do you think?

Mkt2015

2005-06-05 08:10:18 am

MGS for PS1 forever.

It sounds like it's "1-up-manship." Basically, it doesn't matter what the game is as long as the person can say that he/she is better than you.

If you want to break someone of that cycle, I'd suggest coming up with a game that you are sure he knows nothing about and then say something about the game that would be impossible. Say something like I can beat FF 7 with only one character and he/she was at level 24. If the person tries to do a "1-up" move ask them to prove it. Most of the time they don't think far enough ahead to realize how absolutely retarded they are sounding.

A friend of mine in college was like this, but not nearly as bad. A few of his friends and I got together and decided to put him on the spot. We forced him to show us what he had been talking about the whole time. Interestingly enough he did prove he could do it so we then believed him from then on.

Another thing you could do is have another friend with you. Four people in a room is better than three because with three, two of them tend to gang up on the other one.

I would also suggest getting new friends. If you are putting up with people who say those kinds of things on a regular basis, you have a lot more patience than me.

It sounds like it's "1-up-manship." Basically, it doesn't matter what the game is as long as the person can say that he/she is better than you.

If you want to break someone of that cycle, I'd suggest coming up with a game that you are sure he knows nothing about and then say something about the game that would be impossible. Say something like I can beat FF 7 with only one character and he/she was at level 24. If the person tries to do a "1-up" move ask them to prove it. Most of the time they don't think far enough ahead to realize how absolutely retarded they are sounding.

A friend of mine in college was like this, but not nearly as bad. A few of his friends and I got together and decided to put him on the spot. We forced him to show us what he had been talking about the whole time. Interestingly enough he did prove he could do it so we then believed him from then on.

Another thing you could do is have another friend with you. Four people in a room is better than three because with three, two of them tend to gang up on the other one.

I would also suggest getting new friends. If you are putting up with people who say those kinds of things on a regular basis, you have a lot more patience than me.

mjf314

2005-06-06 02:52:40 am

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I don't know anything about the games you're talking about, but maybe this is a good idea:

If there's a versus mode in the game, then challenge him to a competition with you in the game and make something like a $100 bet with him on who's gonna win, and get a lot of people to come and watch so he'll be humiliated when he loses.

CaptainJack

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CaptainJack: 2005-06-06 04:33:28 am

2005-06-06 04:29:09 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Ya.. I've tried having multiple people come over to his house but still hes thinks hes the best even though hes been beaten. for example it's like you beat him 40 times in a row but then he wins like 2 games he will then say "O what know I kicked your ass" and then "40 games doesnt mean shit, I just beat you know face it you suck." and what ever I say does nothing at all. He will just come up with like "Sure,what ever or meh, or something like that. and yes I totally agree with you about the 3 people thing, and being that its, older and younger brother theres no chance in hell your going to win that one. No matter how many times you beat him. And another thing I want to add is, is this a phase in there life or something, because there 16 and 17 and being that I am 17 I dont remember being so egotistical but them its like Holy Crap.

Gorash

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Gorash: 2005-06-06 10:34:11 am

2005-06-06 10:32:06 am

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This is a phase yes... I mentioned it earlier on.

I don't remember it too, but I got told by parents and other close relatives later that it must have been pretty bad Wink

But honestly, what more can you expect other than him making a fool out of himself in front of lots of people?

Try to be above that. If some random kid on the streets starts trash talking to you, you won't listen to him either. That's about the best advice I can give you after all of your posts, because... what the heck, he teases you and you fall for it every time?

If he goes off again, how about "Oh yes, yes, you are... please grant thee unworthy student an additional chance of learning from the deity of all games." (if you can, fake some stupid sounding accent) and wipe the floor again with him. If he notices the sarcasm, back him up too. If not, consider smacking him on the head to bring him back to senses Wink

Hitaro

2005-06-06 07:28:07 pm

I agree. This is most likely a phase, but I think their cases are serious...

Mine occured in the 5th grade, 3 years ago, when I was 10. I thought that everyone was my friend, everyone liked me, I was the best at everything, everything revolved mostly around me, I was the best at everything and ect. I only realised how crappy I was back then last year, when I changed. I hop the change is for good...

Mkt2015

2005-06-06 09:17:05 pm

MGS for PS1 forever.

If you want to go to extremes...since this is SDA, you could always pop in a DVD of one of the runs and pretend you're actually playing it. It would work really well if it was a single-segment...not sure how easily that stupid friend of yours would be fooled though.

DLH112

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DLH112: 2005-06-06 10:09:54 pm

2005-06-06 10:03:03 pm

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If you want to go to extremes...since this is SDA, you could always pop in a DVD of one of the runs and pretend you're actually playing it. It would work really well if it was a single-segment...not sure how easily that stupid friend of yours would be fooled though.

LOL. I can picture the egotistical friend being like "what the hell are you using farores wind for, only losers use that" when he pretends to play TSA's OoT run. Also, after the Bongo Bongo and Ganondorf fights, the egotistical friend would be like in complete awe. Then he'd be like "Pff... I can still do it better." Then try and get a time of like over 10 hours. Then reveal that you were just watching a dvd, and he'd feel pretty stupid.

Hitaro

2005-06-06 11:09:05 pm

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't feel stupid, DLH. He would probably shout out something like: "HA! I KNEW IT! YOU SOXORZ TOO MUCH TO DO IT OURSELF! I COULD DO IT! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOZEEEEEEEEEEER!!!!!!!"

Besides, we don't want him to FEEL stupid, we want him to realise that HE IS stupid.

CaptainJack

2005-06-07 09:03:00 am

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Thats it, you nailed it thats exactly what he would say. Theres no hope of ever changing him hes a lost cause. But what I'm trying to do and the reason I posted this was because I wanted some insite what you guys thought and mayby give me some helpful hint,tips what ever to help me not get so aggrovated with him. So please continue what you are doing you are helping me out alot. And if you can give me some more tips. Also what do you do in this kind of a problem. (Also through out the whole match after every little combo, hes says "O I bet you can't do that" "what know haha")

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Say theres 3 kids in the room, theres you and then 2 brothers. You play one of the brothers in a game of Street Fighter and you beat him, but the brother always denies everything you say, nothing you say can phase him and that the other brother is helping him out by building his selfasteem by saying hes a god and your not. They both say you are cheap because you throw, throwing is for Noobs. I mean you throw in everyfighting game you play its just stupid and while one of the brother is saying this the other one is just backing him up. Then hes starts to throw before he dies and you say but I thought you throwing was for noobs? He replys with "O it is i just did it on accident" mean while the brother still talking shit and backing up the other one.
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What would you do in this kind of problem?

Thats it, you nailed it thats exactly what he would say. Theres no hope of ever changing him hes a lost cause. But what I'm trying to do and the reason I posted this was because I wanted some insite what you guys thought and mayby give me some helpful hint,tips what ever to help me not get so aggrovated with him. So please continue what you are doing you are helping me out alot. And if you can give me some more tips. Also what do you do in this kind of a problem. (Also through out the whole match after every little combo, hes says "O I bet you can't do that" "what know haha")

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Say theres 3 kids in the room, theres you and then 2 brothers. You play one of the brothers in a game of Street Fighter and you beat him, but the brother always denies everything you say, nothing you say can phase him and that the other brother is helping him out by building his selfasteem by saying hes a god and your not. They both say you are cheap because you throw, throwing is for Noobs. I mean you throw in everyfighting game you play its just stupid and while one of the brother is saying this the other one is just backing him up. Then hes starts to throw before he dies and you say but I thought you throwing was for noobs? He replys with "O it is i just did it on accident" mean while the brother still talking shit and backing up the other one.
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What would you do in this kind of problem?

Gorash

2005-06-07 11:36:16 am

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Say theres 3 kids in the room, theres you and then 2 brothers. You play one of the brothers in a game of Street Fighter and you beat him, but the brother always denies everything you say, nothing you say can phase him and that the other brother is helping him out by building his selfasteem by saying hes a god and your not. They both say you are cheap because you throw, throwing is for Noobs. I mean you throw in everyfighting game you play its just stupid and while one of the brother is saying this the other one is just backing him up. Then hes starts to throw before he dies and you say but I thought you throwing was for noobs? He replys with "O it is i just did it on accident" mean while the brother still talking shit and backing up the other one.

That's the reason why I never play Beat'em'ups longer than say a day. There's always one character with an ability that's so difficult to counter that for beginners the char is imbalanced. Prove me wrong if you know a game in which there is not. Playing these game with someone you've got quarrel anyway will only result in trouble. Anyway.... "throwing" for beginners? *shakes-head*

But I'll repeat what I stated earlier:
Don't try to beat a moron with his own arguments. He's more experienced in using moronic arguments and you'll lose. The stupid this advice sounds, it's all so true.

So if he bitches again about throwing being for noobs counter with "Getting thrown is for noobs... all you have to do is block it" and if he starts bitching about that.... who's the master of all games? Clearly not the one who lets himself get thrown. And if he tries to tease you when you get thrown, you win again, because he's the master of all game, naturally it's only likely for him to land this fearsome attack (once in a while...).

[quote]Say theres 3 kids in the room, theres you and then 2 brothers. You play one of the brothers in a game of Street Fighter and you beat him, but the brother always denies everything you say, nothing you say can phase him and that the other brother is helping him out by building his selfasteem by saying hes a god and your not. They both say you are cheap because you throw, throwing is for Noobs. I mean you throw in everyfighting game you play its just stupid and while one of the brother is saying this the other one is just backing him up. Then hes starts to throw before he dies and you say but I thought you throwing was for noobs? He replys with "O it is i just did it on accident" mean while the brother still talking shit and backing up the other one.[/quote]
That's the reason why I never play Beat'em'ups longer than say a day. There's always one character with an ability that's so difficult to counter that for beginners the char is imbalanced. Prove me wrong if you know a game in which there is not. Playing these game with someone you've got quarrel anyway will only result in trouble. Anyway.... "throwing" for beginners? *shakes-head*

But I'll repeat what I stated earlier:
Don't try to beat a moron with his own arguments. He's more experienced in using moronic arguments and you'll lose. The stupid this advice sounds, it's all so true.

So if he bitches again about throwing being for noobs counter with "Getting thrown is for noobs... all you have to do is block it" and if he starts bitching about that.... who's the master of all games? Clearly not the one who lets himself get thrown. And if he tries to tease you when you get thrown, you win again, because he's the master of all game, naturally it's only likely for him to land this fearsome attack (once in a while...).

Morfans

2005-06-07 11:48:51 am

Hell is where the heart is.

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Also through out the whole match after every little combo, hes says "O I bet you can't do that"

Choose your reply from...

"Why would I want to do that?"
"Wouldn't waste my time trying."
"I don't NEED to do that. I'm beating you."
"If you did stuff like that less you might win more"
(just as you're about to land the final hit) "Yeah, I wish I was as good as you..."
etc etc

or, in extreme cases...

"Do you think you could do that with the controller shoved up your arse?"

(Maybe not the last one...) :-)

Trevor

2005-06-07 02:01:25 pm

CaptainJack, defeating his ego is probably impossible, at least by your hands (alone). I'd advise not to even bother. this kind of situation is what psychology would consider "toxic" - potentially harmful to your whole well-being because you put up with it regularly. sorry if I'm off base with that, but, the bottom line is you should stop hanging around this guy.

Hitaro

2005-06-07 07:39:30 pm

What I would do is probably kick them repeatidly (phisycally, not in the game), but obviously, beating them to a pulp won't make them try to understand...

I agree with Jake; those people are obviously crap, as I've mentioned before. They won't change until they grow mature, wich is most likely in a couple of years. Just be patient for that.

CaptainJack

2005-06-07 07:42:32 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I hope so.. thanks for the replys and wouldnt you think that 17 is mature enough?