OoT [N64] Segmented [Suspended]

Manocheese

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Manocheese: 2006-07-01 07:00:35 am

2006-07-01 06:52:35 am

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

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Regardless...you need a quiver. I blame KD the n00b that can somehow beat our runs. He knows...but is waiting until after the run is done to tell otherwise.

lawlz yu luzrs. mai naem iz super ing. i kan beet ur runz. but i nede u2 tel me hao lol cuz i havnt beetn da game yet. but im stil betr dan tha luzr Angry

Also, for the super slide, is it like this?

1. Put a bomb in front of you.
2. Take out your shield.
3. Hold Z and roll forward, holding Z+R and mashing A.

YautjaElder

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YautjaElder: 2006-07-01 09:20:54 am

2006-07-01 09:20:37 am

Speed is the key.

Same time as me on segment 3?

Huh. I thought that one could use some improvement from me... My rolling wasn't optimal, as you said I stopped when doing the text-skip and the deku scrub room wasn't optimal. It is possible to get even closer to the door by rolling way past him and mashing A to "check".

Will comment on segments 3/4 later.

Mad_Andy

2006-07-01 09:28:58 am

Is it possible maybe with this slide to skip the boat in shadow temple?

YautjaElder

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YautjaElder: 2006-07-01 10:20:13 am

2006-07-01 09:29:46 am

Speed is the key.

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Is it possible maybe with this slide to skip the boat in shadow temple?

That gap is waaaaay to big. Wink

Edit: Segment 3.

Segment 3 was very good, but there's two things:

-Deku Scrub room could've been 1-2 seconds faster

-That extra menu toggle in the end

Everything else was better done than me really...

Segment 4.

A time of 4:55 is probably achievable here, if not even lower. Flaws:

-You used my tactic after the ladder... why didn't you use it in the previous segment? Anyway, why did you turn around before jumping to the log? It's not at all necessary. You only lost half a sec or so though.

-When you backflip to the chest, you go into manual aiming. I'm pretty sure it's faster (and easier) to do what I did. I backflip onto the chest, turn around and quicly press L twice. I will be locked onto the skulltula. After shooting it I just hold forward to jump to the vines. Works 100% of the time.

-I usually restart when the skulltula is in that position... You lost a second there. I have decided to redo my Deku Tree segments when I have everything else done, and then I will definately manipulate so that I get the skulltula boost.

-Again you didn't land on the switch, which I do not blame you for, but you could've at least landed on the platform. Just twitch the control stick to the "north east" when landing on the web, then jumpslash. Works for me 100% of the time, often I even land on the switch. (I'm not really sure if this'll work for you, though, as you're jumping from a different place.

-Everything else was very well done.

-Why didn't you jumpslash the wall when going down into the 2-3-1 Deku Scrub room? You probably lost another second or two there.

-Perfect 2-3-1 Deku Scrub room. Nice.

Overall a very good segment.

[quote]Is it possible maybe with this slide to skip the boat in shadow temple?[/quote]

That gap is waaaaay to big. ;)

Edit: Segment 3.

Segment 3 was very good, but there's two things:

-Deku Scrub room could've been 1-2 seconds faster

-That extra menu toggle in the end

Everything else was better done than me really...

Segment 4.

A time of 4:55 is probably achievable here, if not even lower. Flaws:

-You used my tactic after the ladder... why didn't you use it in the previous segment? Anyway, why did you turn around before jumping to the log? It's not at all necessary. You only lost half a sec or so though.

-When you backflip to the chest, you go into manual aiming. I'm pretty sure it's faster (and easier) to do what I did. I backflip onto the chest, turn around and quicly press L twice. I will be locked onto the skulltula. After shooting it I just hold forward to jump to the vines. Works 100% of the time.

-I usually restart when the skulltula is in that position... You lost a second there. I have decided to redo my Deku Tree segments when I have everything else done, and then I will definately manipulate so that I get the skulltula boost.

-Again you didn't land on the switch, which I do not blame you for, but you could've at least landed on the platform. Just twitch the control stick to the "north east" when landing on the web, then jumpslash. Works for me 100% of the time, often I even land on the switch. (I'm not really sure if this'll work for you, though, as you're jumping from a different place.

-Everything else was very well done.

-Why didn't you jumpslash the wall when going down into the 2-3-1 Deku Scrub room? You probably lost another second or two there.

-Perfect 2-3-1 Deku Scrub room. Nice.

Overall a very good segment.

eh

2006-07-01 10:24:52 am

where exactly are the new videos?

Mad_Andy

2006-07-01 10:31:13 am

Yea...

They're not on page one and TSA didn't post any links. Where are they?

YautjaElder

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YautjaElder: 2006-07-01 10:35:51 am

2006-07-01 10:32:42 am

Speed is the key.

Intelligence guys, intelligence. Wink

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link to them, but at least part 3 is on the front page. Part four is kinda there too. The url is really easy to figure out, really...

eh

2006-07-01 10:34:38 am

oooh, i see

Mad_Andy

2006-07-01 10:34:46 am

Ah right, i get it. Silly me Grin

ProtoMonkey

2006-07-01 11:19:58 am

Excellent work Fierce and AKA.

So, skipping Ganondorf would also allow us to skip the Magic Meter Fairy too right? I mean, we don't NEED quickspins anywhere then, do we?

What uses would that leave for Zelda's Lullaby? I can't think of any. If we find a way to skip those light arrows the whole adult section (and parts of child) falls like a house of cards. I really hope somebody can make this work Smiley

PS: How can Nintendo have followed such a beautiful game as OoT with something as garish and butt-ugly as MM Sad

TSA

2006-07-01 11:29:23 am

Retired

I was like "wtf, I didn't post the vids yet"...freaked me out.

TSA

2006-07-01 11:43:40 am

Retired

Segment 3 was very good, but there's two things:

-Deku Scrub room could've been 1-2 seconds faster
-That extra menu toggle in the end

I said I will probably redo it to replicate the fastest way (that video I saw where you roll twice, then turn without targeting, then roll to the scrub) for that room, and to fix the end. It's a really easy segment, so assume I will shave those two seconds. But I just wanted to make sure the going to the door part was fine...or if your way (which I use in segment 4) is faster.

Segment 4:

-You used my tactic after the ladder... why didn't you use it in the previous segment? Anyway, why did you turn around before jumping to the log? It's not at all necessary. You only lost half a sec or so though.

Because I was trying to do something else...sidehop to the log...which is faster than rolling and you will be facing, with camera angle correctly, in an optimal position. But I figured "oh well, it doesn't save any time really".

-When you backflip to the chest, you go into manual aiming.

What? No I didn't. It's pulling out the slingshot...and button mashing Z. Not sure if it is the best way, but the "manual aiming" isn't aiming at all, it's me moving towards the skulltula to allow the z-target to easily auto-lock without the chance of it going to a wrong target or not locking at all. But I guess just hitting Z and then pressing C works.

- I'm pretty sure it's faster (and easier) to do what I did. I backflip onto the chest, turn around and quicly press L twice. I will be locked onto the skulltula. After shooting it I just hold forward to jump to the vines. Works 100% of the time.

Perhaps, but I'm not sure what the time difference is. I just thought it was the same either way.

- I usually restart when the skulltula is in that position... You lost a second there. I have decided to redo my Deku Tree segments when I have everything else done, and then I will definately manipulate so that I get the skulltula boost.

The Damage Boost is too unreliable. It is easy to make the skulltula come to you, but you sometimes have to "wait" for it to move to see you...which ends up wasting time. It saves maybe 3-4 seconds if you do pull it off, but I'm not aiming for the perfect "segment 4" run. It is something I can optimize later should I say...hit 3hrs and 02 seconds for my overall time, and I need to shave even more time. It's just something that depends on lots of attempts that is total luck.

- Again you didn't land on the switch, which I do not blame you for, but you could've at least landed on the platform. Just twitch the control stick to the "north east" when landing on the web, then jumpslash. Works for me 100% of the time, often I even land on the switch. (I'm not really sure if this'll work for you, though, as you're jumping from a different place.

This is a GCN versus N64 issue. There actually is an issue where landing near the switch is not the same "angle" as the GCN videos I see. There were two times, while holding Z to jump, tapping a bit to the "right" would make Link line up better and land on the "platform" area. But the truth is it takes 3.5 seconds to get from landing in the water to the switch from where I am, and it at least takes 1 second to alter the direction of your jump, + 1 second to walk to the switch because landing on it is just plain luck if you don't have the emulator's slow down and re-record. so I am losing 1.5 seconds, at least, from an optimal "land near switch". I think you would agree I hesistate not at all in my execution, so my way was pretty close to being as good as it gets that way. The frustration of 4 hours of straight failed attempts is what made me cave in to settle for the "safer" tactic - just like how I pushed the block once at the end (which I wouldn't normally do).

- Everything else was very well done.

I still pushed the block once...oh well.

- Why didn't you jumpslash the wall when going down into the 2-3-1 Deku Scrub room? You probably lost another second or two there.

Actually, the jumpslash causes a slight lag + delay for damage. The way I did it, yes, I have to deal with the "splash" and 1 second of swimming, but it is very close to being the same time as the slash - but the key is NO health loss. And also, if the slash I did is done properly...you can land right in the water without damage nor having to swim...though the same is true of the optimal jumpslash.

-Perfect 2-3-1 Deku Scrub room. Nice.

The TAS was faster, and I almost messed up (funny how it was pretty good, but I still think it looks bad cuz I targeted the wrong scrub at first).

- Overall a very good segment.

I think it can definitely be faster. Probably 4:45. The biggest mistake wasn't a mistake, but bad luck - the platform room. Worst. possible. starting position. I lost at least 8-10 seconds from the optimal way. The other mistakes pointed out amount to maybe 4-5 seconds.

Segment 3 was very good, but there's two things: 
 
-Deku Scrub room could've been 1-2 seconds faster 
-That extra menu toggle in the end

I said I will probably redo it to replicate the fastest way (that video I saw where you roll twice, then turn without targeting, then roll to the scrub) for that room, and to fix the end.  It's a really easy segment, so assume I will shave those two seconds.  But I just wanted to make sure the going to the door part was fine...or if your way (which I use in segment 4) is faster.
 
Segment 4:
 
-You used my tactic after the ladder... why didn't you use it in the previous segment? Anyway, why did you turn around before jumping to the log? It's not at all necessary. You only lost half a sec or so though.

Because I was trying to do something else...sidehop to the log...which is faster than rolling and you will be facing, with camera angle correctly, in an optimal position.  But I figured "oh well, it doesn't save any time really".
 
-When you backflip to the chest, you go into manual aiming.

What?  No I didn't.  It's pulling out the slingshot...and button mashing Z.  Not sure if it is the best way, but the "manual aiming" isn't aiming at all, it's me moving towards the skulltula to allow the z-target to easily auto-lock without the chance of it going to a wrong target or not locking at all.  But I guess just hitting Z and then pressing C works.

- I'm pretty sure it's faster (and easier) to do what I did. I backflip onto the chest, turn around and quicly press L twice. I will be locked onto the skulltula. After shooting it I just hold forward to jump to the vines. Works 100% of the time.

Perhaps, but I'm not sure what the time difference is.  I just thought it was the same either way.
 
- I usually restart when the skulltula is in that position... You lost a second there. I have decided to redo my Deku Tree segments when I have everything else done, and then I will definately manipulate so that I get the skulltula boost.

The Damage Boost is too unreliable.  It is easy to make the skulltula come to you, but you sometimes have to "wait" for it to move to see you...which ends up wasting time.  It saves maybe 3-4 seconds if you do pull it off, but I'm not aiming for the perfect "segment 4" run.  It is something I can optimize later should I say...hit 3hrs and 02 seconds for my overall time, and I need to shave even more time.  It's just something that depends on lots of attempts that is total luck.
 
- Again you didn't land on the switch, which I do not blame you for, but you could've at least landed on the platform. Just twitch the control stick to the "north east" when landing on the web, then jumpslash. Works for me 100% of the time, often I even land on the switch. (I'm not really sure if this'll work for you, though, as you're jumping from a different place.

This is a GCN versus N64 issue.  There actually is an issue where landing near the switch is not the same "angle" as the GCN videos I see.  There were two times, while holding Z to jump, tapping a bit to the "right" would make Link line up better and land on the "platform" area.  But the truth is it takes 3.5 seconds to get from landing in the water to the switch from where I am, and it at least takes 1 second to alter the direction of your jump, + 1 second to walk to the switch because landing on it is just plain luck if you don't have the emulator's slow down and re-record.  so I am losing 1.5 seconds, at least, from an optimal "land near switch".  I think you would agree I hesistate not at all in my execution, so my way was pretty close to being as good as it gets that way.  The frustration of 4 hours of straight failed attempts is what made me cave in to settle for the "safer" tactic - just like how I pushed the block once at the end (which I wouldn't normally do).
 
- Everything else was very well done.

I still pushed the block once...oh well.
 
- Why didn't you jumpslash the wall when going down into the 2-3-1 Deku Scrub room? You probably lost another second or two there.

Actually, the jumpslash causes a slight lag + delay for damage.  The way I did it, yes, I have to deal with the "splash" and 1 second of swimming, but it is very close to being the same time as the slash - but the key is NO health loss.  And also, if the slash I did is done properly...you can land right in the water without damage nor having to swim...though the same is true of the optimal  jumpslash.
 
-Perfect 2-3-1 Deku Scrub room. Nice.

The TAS was faster, and I almost messed up (funny how it was pretty good, but I still think it looks bad cuz I targeted the wrong scrub at first).
 
- Overall a very good segment.

I think it can definitely be faster.  Probably 4:45.  The biggest mistake wasn't a mistake, but bad luck - the platform room.  Worst. possible. starting position.  I lost at least 8-10 seconds from the optimal way.  The other mistakes pointed out amount to maybe 4-5 seconds.

YautjaElder

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YautjaElder: 2006-07-01 12:42:09 pm

2006-07-01 12:00:47 pm

Speed is the key.

gdfgdfg

The thread is starting to get funky...

I know the feeling, as I also has 4+ hours of failed tries on this segment. It might've been a dumb idea to compare your run to mine, too, since I'm doing a 100%. The difference is that I don't have to give a shit about health loss, since I still have to grab the HC at the end, which refills my health.

Also, I didn't know about the difference between the GCN/N64 versions.

I can tell you one thing about the water platform, though. That damn thing is always going. No matter where you are in the tree, that platform is still going, even during texts. That totally effects where it is when you enter the room (also depending on how fast you are up to that point).

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I was like "wtf, I didn't post the vids yet"...freaked me out.

Hehe, yeah. I just copied the url for the third segment and changed oot_part_3 (or whatever it says) to oot_part_4. I got a 404 - banned two times before I finally got to the file. Grin

AKA

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AKA: 2006-07-01 01:04:55 pm

2006-07-01 01:01:05 pm

He's back!

I watched the uploaded segement and

1. The movement to the ladder was a bit figity but thats OK

2. You can backflip onto and off of the log in the tree since I remembered you saying that you were aiming for perfection.

3. Why do manually shoot and then decide to lock on to the skulltula, I think thats too indecisive

4. Now thats just criminal not even landing on the platform after the web. I've showed the line for it already, so I don't need to tell you how to do it with a 90% accuracy and why did the screen go completely black during the ricochet.

5. Yes finally someone dosen't bother lining up the jump from the block after the skulltula boost (unlike what Yautja did and you did in your previous video) since the ideal camera angle was already there, but the way it can be improved is if you hop down from the block instead of doing a full run and jump.

6. I'm yet to be convinced that lighing the torches in that order is ideal since you always have that same problem imeadiatley after. Have you tried flame storage once the opening door cutscene has been activated. My overall objection to lighting torches in that order is that Link hold the stick over his left shoulder and the torch is on his right.

7. Maybe this sounds harsh, but pushing the block once and carefully doing a twichy line up wasted more time than it actually saved since I'm convined that if you're going to do that you may as well push the block three times.

8. What, why didn't you ricochet off the vines there is no logic in not doing it.

9. I guess the 2-3-1 room was OK, but I've done faster since I've individually got close to each shrub when deflecting the nuts

10. Well I guess we've all got consistent near perfect Gohma battles.

I watched the uploaded segement and

1. The movement to the ladder was a bit figity but thats OK

2. You can backflip onto and off of the log in the tree since I remembered you saying that you were aiming for perfection.

3. Why do manually shoot and then decide to lock on to the skulltula, I think thats too indecisive

4. Now thats just criminal not even landing on the platform after the web. I've showed the line for it already, so I don't need to tell you how to do it with a 90% accuracy and why did the screen go completely black during the ricochet.

5. Yes finally someone dosen't bother lining up the jump from the block after the skulltula boost (unlike what Yautja did and you did in your previous video) since the ideal camera angle was already there, but the way it can be improved is if you hop down from the block instead of doing a full run and jump.

6. I'm yet to be convinced that lighing the torches in that order is ideal since you always have that same problem imeadiatley after. Have you tried flame storage once the opening door cutscene has been activated. My overall objection to lighting torches in that order is that Link hold the stick over his left shoulder and the torch is on his right.

7. Maybe this sounds harsh, but pushing the block once and carefully doing a twichy line up wasted more time than it actually saved since I'm convined that if you're going to do that you may as well push the block three times.

8. What, why didn't you ricochet off the vines there is no logic in not doing it.

9. I guess the 2-3-1 room was OK, but I've done faster since I've individually got close to each shrub when deflecting the nuts

10. Well I guess we've all got consistent near perfect Gohma battles.

YautjaElder

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YautjaElder: 2006-07-01 01:13:05 pm

2006-07-01 01:12:19 pm

Speed is the key.

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5. Yes finally someone dosen't bother lining up the jump from the block after the skulltula boost (unlike what Yautja did and you did in your previous video) since the ideal camera angle was already there, but the way it can be improved is if you hop down from the block instead of doing a full run and jump.

You know why I bothered lining up after the boost? I'm doing a 100% run. A 6+ hour run. I can't do the jump more than 70% of the time without lining up, and lining up takes less than half a second, so it's not even something that matter. I was tired of running the Deku Tree for perfection and wanted to move on with the run. That line up is not even something your average zelda fan will pick up on, unless they have something to compare with. If I would try and try until I got every segment perfect, I would be an old man by the time the run is complete. I'm all about taking risks, but that was completely unnecessary risking the segment for.

AKA

2006-07-01 01:21:01 pm

He's back!

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You know why I bothered lining up after the boost? I'm doing a 100% run. A 6+ hour run. I can't do the jump more than 70% of the time without lining up, and lining up takes less than half a second, so it's not even something that matter. I was tired of running the Deku Tree for perfection and wanted to move on with the run. That line up is not even something your average zelda fan will pick up on, unless they have something to compare with. If I would try and try until I got every segment perfect, I would be an old man by the time the run is complete. I'm all about taking risks, but that was completely unnecessary risking the segment for.

Thats because I'm being less critical of you because you have 5+ hours ahead of you. I'm only following his advice on the first page. I firmly belive that a near flawless start is neccessary in all runs since it won't put of viewers who are too quick to judge.

Kazooie

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Kazooie: 2006-07-01 03:37:53 pm

2006-07-01 02:39:49 pm

Zelda Rulez!

AKA - I have watched your ganon early video and you do that long hover from left side of mountain in ganon castle area and I think how you can get there Huh?

BTW - I think fastest way to beat oot:
1. beat all child dungeons.
2. Then do shadow early and get hover boots
3. beat forest temple with hover boots
4. go to fishing pond and steal rod with hover boots
5. go to lon lon ranch and pay to ingo for ride and hop on horse and then get down and now you have daku stick on b button
6. then do bottle b glitch with naury's love on you right c button and then go to child.
7. as child equip bottled fish to your right c button as child and remember you must have 18 deku nuts.
8. then go to adult and you have light arrow on your b button and do shadow early and beat ganon with light arrow and then equip master sword and beat final part of ganon.

But I don't know how you can skip barriers in ganon castle without sword :-/
NOTE: this only works in v1.0

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AKA - I have watched your ganon early video and you do that long hover from left side of mountain in ganon castle area and I think how you can get there

Ok now undestand you do that fierce super slide trick to slippery wall and get up there and from to mountain do long hover with nayru's love to ganon's gastle, is this right AKA??

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Kazooie, is it possible to use light arrows on B without magic?

No it's a same thing than you have light arrow and not bow but I not sure someone should try that.

AKA - I have watched your ganon early video and you do that long hover from left side of mountain in ganon castle area and I think how you can get there ???

BTW - I think fastest way to beat oot:
1. beat all child dungeons.
2. Then do shadow early and get hover boots
3. beat forest temple with hover boots
4. go to fishing pond and steal rod with hover boots
5. go to lon lon ranch and pay to ingo for ride and hop on horse and then get down and now you have daku stick on b button
6. then do bottle b glitch with naury's love on you right c button and then go to child.
7. as child equip bottled fish to your right c button as child and remember you must have 18 deku nuts.
8. then go to adult and you have light arrow on your b button and do shadow early and beat ganon with light arrow and then equip master sword and beat final part of ganon.

But I don't know how you can skip barriers in ganon castle without sword :-/
NOTE: this only works in v1.0

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[quote]AKA - I have watched your ganon early video and you do that long hover from left side of mountain in ganon castle area and I think how you can get there [/quote]
Ok now undestand you do that fierce super slide trick to slippery wall and get up there and from to mountain do long hover with nayru's love to ganon's gastle, is this right AKA??

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[quote]Kazooie, is it possible to use light arrows on B without magic?[/quote]
No it's a same thing than you have light arrow and not bow but I not sure someone should try that.

AKA

2006-07-01 03:07:36 pm

He's back!

Kazooie, is it possible to use light arrows on B without magic?

Kazooie

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Kazooie: 2006-07-01 04:38:26 pm

2006-07-01 03:53:12 pm

Zelda Rulez!

I have discovered way to get spirit temple as a adult without entering that dungeond at all. you can enter to dungeon from mirror shield ledge and pick up silver gauntles too if you want Smiley

I must do video of it soon

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Edit: I have a slight idea of how you did it... did you use Fierce's trick to get up the slope on the right side of the entreance to the temple?

I use AKA's long hover with nayru's love and it's almost same thing than fierce's super slide.
how to:
1. plant bean as a child to desert colosus and as adult use beans to get top of the rock statue where sheik jump down when you learn requiment of spirit.
2. cast nayru's love and do long hover to colosus and then when you get to the slippery wall unequip hove boots.
3. now you must know where is ledge where you can walk and then when you can stand somewhere use hookshot or longshot to get that ledge where you can pick up silver gauntles.
4. now do same trick than what I use on step 2, do that trick from silver gauntles ledge and hover to mirror shild ledge and end of your long hover you must do backflip or jumpslahs.

I hope you understand how I do it Smiley

now I gonna go find more glitches.

I have discovered way to get spirit temple as a adult without entering that dungeond at all. you can enter to dungeon from mirror shield ledge and pick up silver gauntles too if you want :)

I must do video of it soon

[quote]Edit: I have a slight idea of how you did it... did you use Fierce's trick to get up the slope on the right side of the entreance to the temple? [/quote]

I use AKA's long hover with nayru's love and it's almost same thing than fierce's super slide.
how to:
1. plant bean as a child to desert colosus and as adult use beans to get top of the rock statue where sheik jump down when you learn requiment of spirit.
2. cast nayru's love and do long hover to colosus and then when you get to the slippery wall unequip hove boots.
3. now you must know where is ledge where you can walk and then when you can stand somewhere use hookshot or longshot to get that ledge where you can pick up silver gauntles.
4. now do same trick than what I use on step 2, do that trick from silver gauntles ledge and hover to mirror shild ledge and end of your long hover you must do backflip or jumpslahs.

I hope you understand how I do it :)
now I gonna go find more glitches.

YautjaElder

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YautjaElder: 2006-07-01 04:08:28 pm

2006-07-01 03:59:47 pm

Speed is the key.

Good job Kazooie. Glitch on, man. Wink

Edit: I have a slight idea of how you did it... did you use Fierce's trick to get up the slope on the right side of the entreance to the temple?

Kazooie

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Kazooie: 2006-07-01 05:05:59 pm

2006-07-01 04:58:25 pm

Zelda Rulez!

Now if I use AKA/fierce super slide trick and combine it with bottle adventure I can get about below 20 seconds in maraton runner, my last record without that super slide trick was 34 seconds Grin

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kazooie, YTMND!
I hope you can find a way to defeat Ganondorf without Lightarrows/ Skip Ganondorf, because I think your the man for this kind of job

Thanks and meaby I can if I try lots.

BTW - I have found way to get big rock armor in oot and it's really funny, link have big head Grin

Phallosvogel

2006-07-01 05:01:07 pm

kazooie, YTMND! Grin

I hope you can find a way to defeat Ganondorf without Lightarrows/ Skip Ganondorf, because I think your the man for this kind of job

YautjaElder

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YautjaElder: 2006-07-01 05:34:08 pm

2006-07-01 05:32:11 pm

Speed is the key.

Kazooie, are you planning to make a video of that spirit trick soon? I want to see it. Grin

Edit: I saw your description.... cool stuff. I tried doing that with the old long hover trick, but it didn't work. Sad

Kazooie

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Kazooie: 2006-07-01 05:59:29 pm

2006-07-01 05:45:18 pm

Zelda Rulez!

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Kazooie, are you planning to make a video of that spirit trick soon? I want to see it. Grin

Edit: I saw your description.... cool stuff. I tried doing that with the old long hover trick, but it didn't work. Sad

I not have digicamera now if I going to do video I need to use fraps.
I tried download fraps but I don't know why it's my game slowing down when I try record :-/
Can anyone help me?

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That's great. Did you beat him?

No

Meaby you can beat him if we can find way to get it 00.00 Smiley

Tub

2006-07-01 05:55:11 pm

m00

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Now if I use AKA/fierce super slide trick and combine it with bottle adventure I can get about below 20 seconds in maraton runner

That's great. Did you beat him? Grin