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ridd3r.
2010-05-30 01:55:26 pm
we have lift off
Look forward to seeing it. Just one question though, didn't runnerguy do a SS run in 1:14? Is your 1:17 the full length of the video or something?
Pokey
2010-05-30 02:23:01 pm
Speedrunner
Runnerguy got 1:11 RTA(Real Time Attack) This is Single Segment. In RTA you skip hover boots, bombchus, and you can savewarp everywhere which saves some massive time. Single Segment obviously can't savewarp so yuo have to get hover boots to get past the Door of Time as adult. To get hover boots you must get bombchus to get over the first gap.
ridd3r.
2010-05-30 03:52:24 pm
we have lift off
Oh yeah I forgot he reset at times to warp to save points. I'm sure it will be a great run, are you going to post up a link so people like me can see it? Or were you just planning on letting some select Zelda players see it? (Would be cool if you could post at least a temporary link)
AniMeowzerz
2010-05-30 04:26:12 pm
Quote from ridd3r.:
Look forward to seeing it. Just one question though, didn't runnerguy do a SS run in 1:14? Is your 1:17 the full length of the video or something?

IIRC that was an RTA w/ savewarps and other shenanigans
Spider-Waffle
(user is banned)
2010-05-30 05:44:23 pm
Don't think!  feeeeeal
sounds like an awesome run can't wait to see it; any chance you'll do a a segmented run?
Pokey
2010-05-30 08:20:38 pm
Speedrunner
Quote from Spider-Waffle:
sounds like an awesome run can't wait to see it; any chance you'll do a a segmented run?

Yeah Runnerguy and I gonna battle it out like gentlemen.
ING-X
2010-05-30 09:53:05 pm
umad
nice job on the new run pokey Grin it's about time the any% run on sda became up-to-date, manocheese's run is what, almost 3 years old now? Roll Eyes

again nice job, i look forward to watching it Grin
UchihaSasuke
2010-05-30 10:33:57 pm
Stand: Devil's Call in your Heart
heh about time we got a new run for the site. this will be my first time seeing the SS route in action.
romscout
2010-05-31 09:08:19 am
that Metroidvania guy
congrats on the run, pokey

just saw it on swordless's youtube, great stuff, got all the big tricks to work VERY fast Smiley
BlueStarReturns
2010-06-01 10:46:46 am
Twinkle-Twinkle Lil' Star, har har!
I also have to give my congrats to you on the run, pokey (This is BlueStarReturns on the ZSR forums, by the way)! I watched it on Swordless' Youtube and was blown away at how well it turned out. Plus I was able to understand everything that was going on the whole time, so it shows that I've gotten better at understanding the concept of RBA.

Congrats again on an awesome run and can't wait to see it be added to SDA!
Spider-Waffle
(user is banned)
2010-06-01 04:02:55 pm
Don't think!  feeeeeal
Acryte might have found a technique that can warp you to the end of the game!

RingRush
2010-06-01 06:25:55 pm
Um, that is just a theory. It is just to show if you warp somewhere by somehow modifying grottos, you could then savewarp. Furthermore, we need Light Arrows anyways if we were doing that method, since the closest savewarp to the end of the game is still before Gdorf.
Spider-Waffle
(user is banned)
2010-06-02 02:05:24 am
Don't think!  feeeeeal
Might it be faster to get light arrows on B with this method?  Could still skip traveling from ToT to bridge, bridge cutscene, trails skip
Toes
2010-06-02 02:08:38 am
Spider-Waffle Acryte used gameshark for that. So no, it won't.
Deutscher_Link
2010-06-11 09:54:53 am
any new 100 % runs?
AniMeowzerz
2010-06-11 11:12:40 am
Quote from Deutscher_Link:
any new 100 % runs?

BrianMp16 is restarting his 100% run
Ecko65
2010-06-12 10:21:29 am
DK + Mario Kart 8 = <3
Why is he restarting his run.
aleckermit
2010-06-12 12:59:54 pm
Quote from Ecko65:
Why is he restarting his run.


Because the route has become outdated. New OoT tricks are found weekly lol. Speedrunner's nightmare :P.
Mystery
2010-06-12 01:05:47 pm
You can't just restart everytime a new trick is found! That way, the speedrun will never finish!
Better to finish what he already has and submit it IMO.
UchihaSasuke
2010-06-12 02:40:17 pm
Stand: Devil's Call in your Heart
i think him taking too long is what put him in that situation.

but well, new tricks guarantee that the run is easily beatable by someone with comparable skill and he probably doesn't want to submit a run that could get rejected on verification.
Mystery
2010-06-12 02:45:15 pm
Oops. Then the system would be working backwards.
It's supposed to make sure it's good quality, but they're going to reject a perfectly good run (albeit delayed) or even put fear into the runner, then the system is working backwards IMO. That needs to be fixed...
I really think continuous examination, probably by the same verifiers all the time, would be a good idea. In order to ensure that the run is good quality all the way through and not fail at the end.
ING-X
2010-06-12 04:31:23 pm
umad
Quote from Mystery:
You can't just restart everytime a new trick is found! That way, the speedrun will never finish!
Better to finish what he already has and submit it IMO.


^ This. This is why I stopped doing segmented runs. ^_^
aleckermit
2010-06-12 10:30:30 pm
Quote from Mystery:
You can't just restart everytime a new trick is found! That way, the speedrun will never finish!
Better to finish what he already has and submit it IMO.


It wasn't just because 1 trick was found, LOTS of tricks have been found. He took too much time between segments and his run became outdated.
Mystery
2010-06-13 08:29:11 am
Quote from ING-X:
^ This. This is why I stopped doing segmented runs. ^_^

Hrm, what would be different about an SS as opposed to Segmented? It's still verified at the end...
BlueStarReturns
2010-06-13 10:51:56 am
Twinkle-Twinkle Lil' Star, har har!
Quote from Mystery:
Quote from ING-X:
^ This. This is why I stopped doing segmented runs. ^_^

Hrm, what would be different about an SS as opposed to Segmented? It's still verified at the end...


I would say there's a huge difference, especially for the run in question (the 100%). A single-segment would require a shift in the route taking out the savewarps. Plus a lot of the tricks are just too time-consuming if you don't have the segmentation where you can practice it. You can't be attempting tricks over and over and some tricks are crucial to get first or second try. Otherwise, it's an immediate restart. DoT Skip and Adult DoT Skip with Hover Boots are only two of these tricks that come to mind. It's too demanding for an SS.

My point is that 100% is more optimized with a segmented run than a SS.