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I have no solution, but i admire the problem.
short intermediate question (i'm currently writing an article about speedrunning): what is the normal gamer's way of dealing with the web on the bottom of the deku tree instead of jumpslashing it? burning it? how much of the deku tree is skipped? (don't want to be inaccurate)
Small question, but with the new confirmation that BA is allowed in a low%, could the route be changed to do the Ganon Early/Light Arrows on B route?
It would save 2 medallions and I guess a few items from temples we'd need like the hookshot if thats not skipped already. Plus I'm sure it's a way easier route.
It would save 2 medallions and I guess a few items from temples we'd need like the hookshot if thats not skipped already. Plus I'm sure it's a way easier route.
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Small question, but with the new confirmation that BA is allowed in a low%, could the route be changed to do the Ganon Early/Light Arrows on B route?
It would save 2 medallions and I guess a few items from temples we'd need like the hookshot if thats not skipped already. Plus I'm sure it's a way easier route.
It would save 2 medallions and I guess a few items from temples we'd need like the hookshot if thats not skipped already. Plus I'm sure it's a way easier route.
The only way to Door of Time skip as adult involves BAing a bomb during the light arrow cutscene. Until a DoT skip that doesn't involve the light arrow cutscene is found, we'd need to get the three stones, Song of Time, Ocarina of Time, boomerang, and deku nuts. It isn't worth it.
This statue's one-eyed gaze pierces into your mind
Quote from Sorcerer88:
short intermediate question (i'm currently writing an article about speedrunning): what is the normal gamer's way of dealing with the web on the bottom of the deku tree instead of jumpslashing it? burning it? how much of the deku tree is skipped? (don't want to be inaccurate)
the first web on floor 1 is always broken by jumping down on it.
speedrunners may do 2nd web one of three ways
1. wallskulltula vine clip to fall into out of bounds water them swim into basement 2.
2. hover off of gold skulltula to reach the block ledge early
3. megasidehop off deku baba on F1 (after web is burnt) and land on block ledge early.
the way you're intended to do it is go through all the rooms in the basement.
So, I've been practicing a lot and can do ISG, ground jump, SS, ESS, megaflip, steal rod, get bottle and other items to B, the trick to skip half shadow temple, as well as other dungeon tricks, and adult bomb hover. However, I very rarely can do bomb hover as a child. I've tried countless times, know exactly what I'm supposed to do, but just can't get the timing right. I can't believe how difficult this seems, and am amazed at how easily people can do it here. So let me get this straight to make absolutely sure I'm doing this right. I'm on GCN, I have slingshot on Z (c-down) bombchus on X (c-right). So, activate ISG, find a ledge, backwalk into ledge. Hold L, down on analog stick, Z. Then press A, and while in mid-air, quickly release Z, press X and then R. Is this right? Because nearly every time I press X then R I get hit by the bomb. The control feels incredibly awkward, and no matter how much I try, I haven't gotten anywhere with it. 
This is the only trick so far I've had major problems with. And of course it is one of the most important tricks to get right...
edit: I even have swordlesslink's "how to perform the bombchu hover in oot" video in my youtube favorites. Even that doesn't help. I guess I just got to keep practicing...although after several hours of attempts I haven't gotten any better at hovering whatsoever.
edit: I even have swordlesslink's "how to perform the bombchu hover in oot" video in my youtube favorites. Even that doesn't help. I guess I just got to keep practicing...although after several hours of attempts I haven't gotten any better at hovering whatsoever.
Merry Chrismas =)
most important thing:
understand, what the reason is for what you have to do
the slingshot is used to cancel the backflip, so link is close enough to the explodsion. when you shoot with the bow, slingshot or hookshot while backflipping, the backflip is cancelled.
so do it like this:
walk towards a ledge, pull out slingshot and keep holding the button to be ready to shoot a seed. then you backflip and AFTER let go of the slingshot button. Now immediately press the button for chu and hold R
understand, what the reason is for what you have to do
the slingshot is used to cancel the backflip, so link is close enough to the explodsion. when you shoot with the bow, slingshot or hookshot while backflipping, the backflip is cancelled.
so do it like this:
walk towards a ledge, pull out slingshot and keep holding the button to be ready to shoot a seed. then you backflip and AFTER let go of the slingshot button. Now immediately press the button for chu and hold R
Yes! I got 4 chus off before falling, which is great by my standards lol. I had to look at my controller while I was doing it though. I think I was doing 2 things wrong before. I would press X (release bombchu) and R simoultaneously instead of X then quickly R. Or I would press X and wait a split second too long before pressing R. The timing is horrific, but I'm slowly getting there. Time to practice some more then attempt forest escape with deku scrub projectiles. Also, 2 things...probably old sorry.
1. Forest escape is not possible with jump slash ESS glitch?
2. This is useless, but is it possible to do the walking while talking glitch to get past Mido and get to Deku Tree early?
1. Forest escape is not possible with jump slash ESS glitch?
2. This is useless, but is it possible to do the walking while talking glitch to get past Mido and get to Deku Tree early?
Updated slightly with some new tricks, corrections, and optimizations.
Posted here, simply because it is the only place that has interest in this division, even if it isn't an official category. Also, with the new ruling, this is no longer the "no BA/RBA" route, this is the normal route for low% MST.
Low% MST route v2.0
By RingRush
Editted By Suddoman
29 items.
Koriki Sword, Deku Shield, Deku Stick, Bombchu, Master Sword, Mirror Shield, Zelda's Letter, Zelda's Lullaby, Magic and Light Arrows: Same as low%
Cucco Bottle: OIing, Water Trial (can be skipped if we get hookshot)
Bow and Quiver: Need ammo for light arrows
Deku Nut: Queen Gohma, better than Slingshot and Bullet Bag
Boomerang: Barnicade (Jabu-Jabu Boss).
Fire Arrow: Forest Trial, Shadow Trial w/ less chus
Megaton Hammer: Volvagia (Fire Temple Boss)
Goron Tunic: Fire Trial (can be replaced with Longshot, but not yet confirmed on console), helps with Volvagia
Gold Gauntlets: Fire Trial, Entering Light Trial without bombs
Minuet of Forest: Currently unskippable in MST
6 Medallions and 3 Stones: Needed for MST
Things this run needs:
Rupee route (270 rupees worth, probably mostly from chains; luckily never need more than 90 at a time)
Posted here, simply because it is the only place that has interest in this division, even if it isn't an official category. Also, with the new ruling, this is no longer the "no BA/RBA" route, this is the normal route for low% MST.
Low% MST route v2.0
By RingRush
Editted By Suddoman
Segment 1:
1. Intro
2. Save
Segment 2:
1. 21R
2. Kokiri Sword [I1]
3. Save
Segment 3:
1. 19R
2. Deku Shield [I2]
3. Equip items
4. Deku Stick on the way to Tree (get 3) [I3]
5. Save in tree
Segment 4:
1. Grab a deku nut [I4]
2. Break floor web
3. Skultula clip or megasidehop
4. To Gohma
5. Go nuts for the Kokiri Emerald [I5]
Segment 5:
1. Forest Escape
2. To Gerudo Valley
3. Cucco jump
4. Save in fortress
Segment 6:
1. Gate skip
2. Cross wasteland
3. Enter Spirit Temple and save
Segment 7:
1. Nabooru
2. Kill Armos and Keese
3. Light torches in next room
4. Stalfos megaflip
5. Get key
6. Save
Segment 8:
1. Back to Armos room
2. Use key
3. Work up to room with Bombchus
4. Hover off Lizalfos to hit the crystal switch to drop Bombchus
5. Get Bombchus [I6]
6. Shine light (9 chus)
7. Key on upper child side
8. Onto statue shoulder
9. Statue tricks to adult side
10. Work up to Mirror Chest (8 chus) [I7]
11. Save
Segment 9:
1. Lost Woods
2. Goron City (7 chus)
3. To Kakriko
4. Cucco dive to well and save
Segment 10:
1. Chu floor for more chus (16 chus)
3. Save
Segment 11:
1. Exit well
2. Cucco collecting for bottle [I8]
3. Grab bugs
4. Save
Segment 12:
1. Exit via Goron City
5. Chu and enter DC (15 chus)
6. Save
Segment 13:
1. Chu the wall inside (14 chus)
2. Chu + flower ground jump to switch (13 chus)
3. Chu down staircase on other side (12 chus)
4. Chu megaflip to get to bomb bag area (11 chus)
5. Chu both eyes (9 chus) [Possible segment split, considering this is a hard segment]
6. Chu...no, just enter the mouth and OI the switch
7. Chu the floor above KD (8 chus)
8. Chu and kill KD (4 chus)
9. Goron's Ruby, not chu! [I9]
10. Re-enter DC and save
Segment 14:
1. To the market
2. Chu bowl thrice
3. Save
Segment 15:
1. To Sacred Forest Meadow
2. Hover to Forest Temple (26 chus)
3. Save
Segment 16:
1. Small key from outdoors
2. Save
Segment 17:
1. Small key from Stalfos
2. Roll jump slash to reach balcony room
3. Small key from floormaster and save
4. Back to block room
5. Block skip (7 chus)
6. Continue to fairy bow and quiver [I10, I11]
7. Save
Segment 18:
1. Exit Forest Temple
2. Save
Segment 19:
1. Chu megaflip to bridge (6 chus)
2. To Hyrule Castle
3. Chu bowl thrice (36 chus)
4. Chu boost or megaflip to skip egg/cucco (35 chus)
5. Zelda's Lullaby and Zeldas Letter [I12, I13]
6. To Dodongo’s Cavern and save
Segment 20:
1. Up Death Mountain (34 chus)
2. Magic room (33 chus)
3. OI + ZL = Magic [I14]
4. Owl down the mountain
6. To Lake Hylia
7. Enter Water Temple from OoB
8. Save
Segment 21:
1. Tektite + chu hover + megaflip (32 chus)
2. Boss key skip (25 chus)
3. Morpha with deku stick jump slashes
4. Water Medallion [I15]
Segment 22:
1. Forest Escape w/ chu (24 chus)
2. Get to Zora's River
3. Go up Zora's River w/ Cucco (23 chus)
4. Cucco trick past waterfall
6. Chu megasidehop clip to skip KZ (22 chus)
7. Jabu-Jabu without fish
8. Save
Segment 23:
1. Chu the first switch (21 chus)
2. Ruto to hit other slingshot switch
3. To Boomerang [I16]
4. Save
Segment 24:
1. Chu megaflip + OI for huge shortcut (20 chu)
2. Barinade
3. Zora's Sapphire cutscene [I17]
4. Re-enter jabu jabu and save
Segment 25:
1. To Hyrule Castle and cutscene
2. Chu Bowling thrice
3. DoT skip
4. Master Sword and Light Medallion [I18, I19]
5. Save
Segment 26:
1. To Lake Hylia
2. Grab Fire Arrows [I20]
3. Save
Segment 27:
1. To Kakariko Graveyard
2. Shadow early with poe superslide warp
3. Save
Segment 28:
1. Megaflip gap (49 chus)
2. Bird statue
3. Another megaflip (48 chus)
4. To the spinning scythe room
5. Jumpslash SB and jump to boat wheel
6. ZL to start boat
7. Arrow the pillar
8. Get the Boss Key w/o fire
9. Go to Bongo Bongo (47 chus)
10. Shadow Medallion [I21]
11. Save
Segment 29:
1. To Gerudo Valley
2. Megaflip bridge (46 chus)
3. Save in fortress
Segment 30:
1. To the wall
2. Damage boost jumpslash (45 chus)
3. Adult Gate skip (44 chus)
4. Wasteland
5. Enter Spirit Temple and save
Segment 31:
1. Silver block skip landing in room (27 chus)
2. Bow on Crystal switch
3. Silver rupees (26 chus)
4. To the statue room
5. ZL on hand
6. Grab key from child side
7. Statue tricks back to adult side
8. To boss key
9. To the mirror room
10. Blow up the rock wall in the maze and shine light on the big mirror (25 chus)
11. Magic ISG trick
12. Destroy the face
13. Make sure the magic landed on the platform and activate ISG from it
14. Hover to boss door (20 chus)
15. Iron Knuckle and Twinrova
16. Spirit Medallion [I22]
17. Save
Segment 32:
1. Light Arrows [I23]
2. To Ganon's Castle
3. Save
Segment 33:
1. To Spirit Trial
2. Spirit trial rupees (18 chus)
3. Chu chest (38 chus)
4. Chu the switch (37 chus)
5. Burn the web
6. Destroy the Spirit Barrier
7. To Shadow Trial
8. Fire arrow torch a few times
9. Golden Gauntlets [I24]
10. Save
Segment 34:
1. Exit Castle
2. To Death Mountain
3. Goron Tunic with Bomb Flower [I25]
4. Chu megaflip to the fire temple (36 chus)
5. Save
Segment 35:
1. Darunia
2. Continue through dungeon til block rise (35 chus)
3. Megaflip gap to crystal switch (34 chus)
4. Push block and use bow on crystal switch
5. Continue to stone maze, grab small keys
6. Grunz’s maze trick (26 chus)
7. Continue on, getting small keys (25 chus)
8. Blow open fake door before sub-boss (24 chus)
9. Flare Dancer
10. Up to Megaton Hammer [I26]
11. Save
Segment 36:
1. To Boss Key
2. Chu Megaflip to Boss door (23 chus)
3. Volvagia
4. Fire Medallion [I27]
5. Save
Segment 37:
1. Go to Forest Temple.
2. Learn Minuet of the Forest [I28]
3. Hover to Forest Temple (15 chus)
4. Save
Segment 38:
1. Unreal’s backflip boss key skip
2. Phantom Ganon
3. Forest Medallion [I29]
4. Save
Segment 39:
1. Return to castle
2. Save
Segment 40:
1. Back to Shadow Trial
2. Finish it up with Megaton Hammer
3. To Forest Trial
4. Light torches with Fire Arrow
5. Rupee room w/o hovers (14 chus)
6. Destroy Forest barrier
7. To Water Trial
8. Bottle of blue flame
9. Melt first ice
10. Bow clip trick to skip puzzle room
11. Destroy Water barrier
12. To Fire Trial
13. Get rupees
14. Hover to end (1 chu)
15. Destroy Fire barrier
16. To Light Trial
17. Get keys, OI ZL
18. Silver rupees (0 chus)
19. Destroy Light barrier
20. To Upper Ganon’s Castle
21. Save
Segment 41:
1. Up the tower
2. Single cycle ‘dorf
3. Crumbling escape
4. Megaton or Bow first phase
5. Master Sword…DEAD!
1. Intro
2. Save
Segment 2:
1. 21R
2. Kokiri Sword [I1]
3. Save
Segment 3:
1. 19R
2. Deku Shield [I2]
3. Equip items
4. Deku Stick on the way to Tree (get 3) [I3]
5. Save in tree
Segment 4:
1. Grab a deku nut [I4]
2. Break floor web
3. Skultula clip or megasidehop
4. To Gohma
5. Go nuts for the Kokiri Emerald [I5]
Segment 5:
1. Forest Escape
2. To Gerudo Valley
3. Cucco jump
4. Save in fortress
Segment 6:
1. Gate skip
2. Cross wasteland
3. Enter Spirit Temple and save
Segment 7:
1. Nabooru
2. Kill Armos and Keese
3. Light torches in next room
4. Stalfos megaflip
5. Get key
6. Save
Segment 8:
1. Back to Armos room
2. Use key
3. Work up to room with Bombchus
4. Hover off Lizalfos to hit the crystal switch to drop Bombchus
5. Get Bombchus [I6]
6. Shine light (9 chus)
7. Key on upper child side
8. Onto statue shoulder
9. Statue tricks to adult side
10. Work up to Mirror Chest (8 chus) [I7]
11. Save
Segment 9:
1. Lost Woods
2. Goron City (7 chus)
3. To Kakriko
4. Cucco dive to well and save
Segment 10:
1. Chu floor for more chus (16 chus)
3. Save
Segment 11:
1. Exit well
2. Cucco collecting for bottle [I8]
3. Grab bugs
4. Save
Segment 12:
1. Exit via Goron City
5. Chu and enter DC (15 chus)
6. Save
Segment 13:
1. Chu the wall inside (14 chus)
2. Chu + flower ground jump to switch (13 chus)
3. Chu down staircase on other side (12 chus)
4. Chu megaflip to get to bomb bag area (11 chus)
5. Chu both eyes (9 chus) [Possible segment split, considering this is a hard segment]
6. Chu...no, just enter the mouth and OI the switch
7. Chu the floor above KD (8 chus)
8. Chu and kill KD (4 chus)
9. Goron's Ruby, not chu! [I9]
10. Re-enter DC and save
Segment 14:
1. To the market
2. Chu bowl thrice
3. Save
Segment 15:
1. To Sacred Forest Meadow
2. Hover to Forest Temple (26 chus)
3. Save
Segment 16:
1. Small key from outdoors
2. Save
Segment 17:
1. Small key from Stalfos
2. Roll jump slash to reach balcony room
3. Small key from floormaster and save
4. Back to block room
5. Block skip (7 chus)
6. Continue to fairy bow and quiver [I10, I11]
7. Save
Segment 18:
1. Exit Forest Temple
2. Save
Segment 19:
1. Chu megaflip to bridge (6 chus)
2. To Hyrule Castle
3. Chu bowl thrice (36 chus)
4. Chu boost or megaflip to skip egg/cucco (35 chus)
5. Zelda's Lullaby and Zeldas Letter [I12, I13]
6. To Dodongo’s Cavern and save
Segment 20:
1. Up Death Mountain (34 chus)
2. Magic room (33 chus)
3. OI + ZL = Magic [I14]
4. Owl down the mountain
6. To Lake Hylia
7. Enter Water Temple from OoB
8. Save
Segment 21:
1. Tektite + chu hover + megaflip (32 chus)
2. Boss key skip (25 chus)
3. Morpha with deku stick jump slashes
4. Water Medallion [I15]
Segment 22:
1. Forest Escape w/ chu (24 chus)
2. Get to Zora's River
3. Go up Zora's River w/ Cucco (23 chus)
4. Cucco trick past waterfall
6. Chu megasidehop clip to skip KZ (22 chus)
7. Jabu-Jabu without fish
8. Save
Segment 23:
1. Chu the first switch (21 chus)
2. Ruto to hit other slingshot switch
3. To Boomerang [I16]
4. Save
Segment 24:
1. Chu megaflip + OI for huge shortcut (20 chu)
2. Barinade
3. Zora's Sapphire cutscene [I17]
4. Re-enter jabu jabu and save
Segment 25:
1. To Hyrule Castle and cutscene
2. Chu Bowling thrice
3. DoT skip
4. Master Sword and Light Medallion [I18, I19]
5. Save
Segment 26:
1. To Lake Hylia
2. Grab Fire Arrows [I20]
3. Save
Segment 27:
1. To Kakariko Graveyard
2. Shadow early with poe superslide warp
3. Save
Segment 28:
1. Megaflip gap (49 chus)
2. Bird statue
3. Another megaflip (48 chus)
4. To the spinning scythe room
5. Jumpslash SB and jump to boat wheel
6. ZL to start boat
7. Arrow the pillar
8. Get the Boss Key w/o fire
9. Go to Bongo Bongo (47 chus)
10. Shadow Medallion [I21]
11. Save
Segment 29:
1. To Gerudo Valley
2. Megaflip bridge (46 chus)
3. Save in fortress
Segment 30:
1. To the wall
2. Damage boost jumpslash (45 chus)
3. Adult Gate skip (44 chus)
4. Wasteland
5. Enter Spirit Temple and save
Segment 31:
1. Silver block skip landing in room (27 chus)
2. Bow on Crystal switch
3. Silver rupees (26 chus)
4. To the statue room
5. ZL on hand
6. Grab key from child side
7. Statue tricks back to adult side
8. To boss key
9. To the mirror room
10. Blow up the rock wall in the maze and shine light on the big mirror (25 chus)
11. Magic ISG trick
12. Destroy the face
13. Make sure the magic landed on the platform and activate ISG from it
14. Hover to boss door (20 chus)
15. Iron Knuckle and Twinrova
16. Spirit Medallion [I22]
17. Save
Segment 32:
1. Light Arrows [I23]
2. To Ganon's Castle
3. Save
Segment 33:
1. To Spirit Trial
2. Spirit trial rupees (18 chus)
3. Chu chest (38 chus)
4. Chu the switch (37 chus)
5. Burn the web
6. Destroy the Spirit Barrier
7. To Shadow Trial
8. Fire arrow torch a few times
9. Golden Gauntlets [I24]
10. Save
Segment 34:
1. Exit Castle
2. To Death Mountain
3. Goron Tunic with Bomb Flower [I25]
4. Chu megaflip to the fire temple (36 chus)
5. Save
Segment 35:
1. Darunia
2. Continue through dungeon til block rise (35 chus)
3. Megaflip gap to crystal switch (34 chus)
4. Push block and use bow on crystal switch
5. Continue to stone maze, grab small keys
6. Grunz’s maze trick (26 chus)
7. Continue on, getting small keys (25 chus)
8. Blow open fake door before sub-boss (24 chus)
9. Flare Dancer
10. Up to Megaton Hammer [I26]
11. Save
Segment 36:
1. To Boss Key
2. Chu Megaflip to Boss door (23 chus)
3. Volvagia
4. Fire Medallion [I27]
5. Save
Segment 37:
1. Go to Forest Temple.
2. Learn Minuet of the Forest [I28]
3. Hover to Forest Temple (15 chus)
4. Save
Segment 38:
1. Unreal’s backflip boss key skip
2. Phantom Ganon
3. Forest Medallion [I29]
4. Save
Segment 39:
1. Return to castle
2. Save
Segment 40:
1. Back to Shadow Trial
2. Finish it up with Megaton Hammer
3. To Forest Trial
4. Light torches with Fire Arrow
5. Rupee room w/o hovers (14 chus)
6. Destroy Forest barrier
7. To Water Trial
8. Bottle of blue flame
9. Melt first ice
10. Bow clip trick to skip puzzle room
11. Destroy Water barrier
12. To Fire Trial
13. Get rupees
14. Hover to end (1 chu)
15. Destroy Fire barrier
16. To Light Trial
17. Get keys, OI ZL
18. Silver rupees (0 chus)
19. Destroy Light barrier
20. To Upper Ganon’s Castle
21. Save
Segment 41:
1. Up the tower
2. Single cycle ‘dorf
3. Crumbling escape
4. Megaton or Bow first phase
5. Master Sword…DEAD!
29 items.
Koriki Sword, Deku Shield, Deku Stick, Bombchu, Master Sword, Mirror Shield, Zelda's Letter, Zelda's Lullaby, Magic and Light Arrows: Same as low%
Cucco Bottle: OIing, Water Trial (can be skipped if we get hookshot)
Bow and Quiver: Need ammo for light arrows
Deku Nut: Queen Gohma, better than Slingshot and Bullet Bag
Boomerang: Barnicade (Jabu-Jabu Boss).
Fire Arrow: Forest Trial, Shadow Trial w/ less chus
Megaton Hammer: Volvagia (Fire Temple Boss)
Goron Tunic: Fire Trial (can be replaced with Longshot, but not yet confirmed on console), helps with Volvagia
Gold Gauntlets: Fire Trial, Entering Light Trial without bombs
Minuet of Forest: Currently unskippable in MST
6 Medallions and 3 Stones: Needed for MST
Things this run needs:
Rupee route (270 rupees worth, probably mostly from chains; luckily never need more than 90 at a time)
I'm not your buddy, guay!
Quote from logitechSDAZ:
So, I've been practicing a lot and can do ISG, ground jump, SS, ESS, megaflip, steal rod, get bottle and other items to B, the trick to skip half shadow temple, as well as other dungeon tricks, and adult bomb hover. However, I very rarely can do bomb hover as a child. I've tried countless times, know exactly what I'm supposed to do, but just can't get the timing right. I can't believe how difficult this seems, and am amazed at how easily people can do it here. So let me get this straight to make absolutely sure I'm doing this right. I'm on GCN, I have slingshot on Z (c-down) bombchus on X (c-right). So, activate ISG, find a ledge, backwalk into ledge. Hold L, down on analog stick, Z. Then press A, and while in mid-air, quickly release Z, press X and then R. Is this right? Because nearly every time I press X then R I get hit by the bomb. The control feels incredibly awkward, and no matter how much I try, I haven't gotten anywhere with it. This is the only trick so far I've had major problems with. And of course it is one of the most important tricks to get right...
edit: I even have swordlesslink's "how to perform the bombchu hover in oot" video in my youtube favorites. Even that doesn't help. I guess I just got to keep practicing...although after several hours of attempts I haven't gotten any better at hovering whatsoever.
edit: I even have swordlesslink's "how to perform the bombchu hover in oot" video in my youtube favorites. Even that doesn't help. I guess I just got to keep practicing...although after several hours of attempts I haven't gotten any better at hovering whatsoever.
That's interesting, I have always released the slingshot seed before doing the backflip. I know it's that way because my thumb presses C-down also presses A, and to get to the A button it has to release the seed first. It works for me because my C-down and A button are so close on the N64. Then that same thumb goes and hits C-right and my right index hits R. All of that done really fast of course.
I tried backflipping first, then releasing the seed, then pulling out the chu and shielding, and the first thing that happened was getting hit by the chu, just like you said. It is possible to hover both ways though. The way I do it if I fail it's not from the chu exploding on me it's just from the explosion happening and me just completing my backflip (I'd assume pulling the chu out and shielding it too late after the slingshot has been fired).
Quote:
Segment 13:
1. Chu the wall inside (14 chus)
2. Chu + flower ground jump to switch (13 chus)
3. Chu down staircase on other side (12 chus)
4. Chu megaflip to get to bomb bag area (11 chus)
5. Chu both eyes (9 chus) [Possible segment split, considering this is a hard segment]
6. Chu...no, just enter the mouth and OI the switch
7. Chu the floor above KD (8 chus)
8. Chu and kill KD (4 chus)
9. Goron's Ruby, not chu! [I9]
10. Re-enter DC and save
1. Chu the wall inside (14 chus)
2. Chu + flower ground jump to switch (13 chus)
3. Chu down staircase on other side (12 chus)
4. Chu megaflip to get to bomb bag area (11 chus)
5. Chu both eyes (9 chus) [Possible segment split, considering this is a hard segment]
6. Chu...no, just enter the mouth and OI the switch
7. Chu the floor above KD (8 chus)
8. Chu and kill KD (4 chus)
9. Goron's Ruby, not chu! [I9]
10. Re-enter DC and save
What is the objective of steps 1-4 if you don't get the bomb bag? I think you can just chu the eyes right from the bottom.
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Segment 29:
1. To Gerudo Valley
2. Megaflip bridge (46 chus)
3. Save in fortress
1. To Gerudo Valley
2. Megaflip bridge (46 chus)
3. Save in fortress
How do you megaflip that? Has someone done it without ISG? Or with ISG and chus yet?
I don't know much else about the low% but those two things jumped out at me.
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Segment 13:
1. Chu the wall inside (14 chus)
2. Chu + flower ground jump to switch (13 chus)
3. Chu down staircase on other side (12 chus)
4. Chu megaflip to get to bomb bag area (11 chus)
5. Chu both eyes (9 chus) [Possible segment split, considering this is a hard segment]
6. Chu...no, just enter the mouth and OI the switch
7. Chu the floor above KD (8 chus)
8. Chu and kill KD (4 chus)
9. Goron's Ruby, not chu! [I9]
10. Re-enter DC and save
1. Chu the wall inside (14 chus)
2. Chu + flower ground jump to switch (13 chus)
3. Chu down staircase on other side (12 chus)
4. Chu megaflip to get to bomb bag area (11 chus)
5. Chu both eyes (9 chus) [Possible segment split, considering this is a hard segment]
6. Chu...no, just enter the mouth and OI the switch
7. Chu the floor above KD (8 chus)
8. Chu and kill KD (4 chus)
9. Goron's Ruby, not chu! [I9]
10. Re-enter DC and save
What is the objective of steps 1-4 if you don't get the bomb bag? I think you can just chu the eyes right from the bottom.
Quote:
Segment 29:
1. To Gerudo Valley
2. Megaflip bridge (46 chus)
3. Save in fortress
1. To Gerudo Valley
2. Megaflip bridge (46 chus)
3. Save in fortress
How do you megaflip that? Has someone done it without ISG? Or with ISG and chus yet?
I don't know much else about the low% but those two things jumped out at me.
For the first, somebody told me that chuing eyes took such precision that it was TAS only. Though I guess someone could do it. Would probably have to split that segment considering how hard it is to kill KD w/ chus.
For the second, I was assuming an ISG megaflip. Since somebody has done it with bombs, there should be no reason you couldn't do it with chus, it just takes more timing so it explodes in the right place.
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Would it be possible to use this technique as a child, in order to get past Nabooru without talking to her?
It would probably still end up taking longer.
Not to mention good luck getting the 15 or so chus, considering the main point of child spirit is to grab the chu chest.
MrGrunz is a guay
So in the irc we've been talking about OoT hacks lately, mainy Zelda's Birthday. Not exactly OoT but its cool stuff. Me and grunz destroyed the game with some awesome SB's and now we have Zelda's Birthday in 3:17. Its already improvable because I found a 2nd stick skip but we want to TAS it next, the only problem is it crashes in mupen when loading certain areas. If someone can get it to work a TAS is expected to be sub 2:20.