Megaman Battle Network Games

2008-11-25 11:47:15 am

Also tenkiforecast

So far, that looks VERY good.

Rockman games are very difficult to run, and these are no exception. Especially because almost everything is based on luck, for random encounters, etc...

Agreed, the snake strategy is very effective. Even if it doesn't work that well, one of the N1 folders gives you a snake folder.

Snakes against Alpha? That... I'm not sure of. You're stuck with 9 spaces, and to utilize snakes to the best of your ability, you lose only 6 spaces. So, 40 x 6 = 240, but even if you had a wood +30 (Dunno if you can get that) you'd do 70 x 6 = 420. That's not helpful, plus you severly expose yourself. I'd go against using a snake folder at the endstrategy.

Cromarty

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Cromarty: 2008-11-27 11:33:16 pm

2008-11-25 12:31:34 pm

astral guard

Wood+30 comes in the snake folder, so I can order one for 5k, and if I bugfrag three bosses instead of two I come up with enough to buy a second when I go for fullcust. I do have a geddon1 as well. Tongue

Mostly, I was worried about getting killed by Alpha while trying to hit him with varsword, so I figured I would do two varswords plus snakes or something. Turns out that it isn't an issue (see edit to last post).

Snakes aren't entirely reliable when the boss has obstacles on their side, though. I've had snakes that only hit a couple a times when fighting Bubbleman. Doesn't seem like such a useful chip now, looking over the boss strategies and seeing it in none..

Edit for new stuff:
Thought there was a snake from one of the jobs Tora "persuades" Lan to do, it's actually in a locked data on Tamako's pc. Might leave the snake R from Higsby in stash, because the folder is mostly D after I fix it up, and the snake here is D. Need to come up with another 4k to buy an unlocker somewhere though.
Snake is still kind of useless until Alpha.. but now that I can get one before the zoo computer I might find some use for it in randoms.

Lifesword is awesome and greatly uncomplicates some of the bosses. Notably, Desertman v1 dies in two and v2 dies to lifesword->masterstyle.
Double edit regarding Desertman - can't believe I overlooked this. The second wave from varsword's slashwave is water element, so if I make the first wave miss, the second will stun him and the other two will connect. From starting position, or any where there isn't a column in front of him, throw the slashwave from left of the hands so that they will take the first wave; otherwise stand on the grabbed panel and the interposing column will take the first wave.
(This strategy assumes a preset areagrab, which you use to take the center panel of his front row before attacking him, because otherwise it's random whether you can connect lifesword on him.)

Fullcust may be available as early as the Plantman scenario, but I haven't checked any earlier than the start of Flameman's.

Might have to look at the math for my strategy vs Alpha again.. varswords against a protected core weren't doing as much as I thought, and I needed to throw snakes or a lifesword or something to get him to <=900 HP. I thought I saw airshot and shockwave break the core's protection in one hit, too, where lifesword did not.

Also have yet to check how much HP is needed to run away from encounters in specific areas. Seems like running from anything in undernet is impossible given the available HP memory.
Didn't go out of my way to collect money, apart from job 7 where you fight twinners for 10k, and still had enough to buy all the stuff I wanted and then a few HP memories on the side later in the game.

That's about all of it, I think, except to connect the dots with the shortest lines. [In progress now.]

Wood+30 comes in the snake folder, so I can order one for 5k, and if I bugfrag three bosses instead of two I come up with enough to buy a second when I go for fullcust.  I do have a geddon1 as well. :P
Mostly, I was worried about getting killed by Alpha while trying to hit him with varsword, so I figured I would do two varswords plus snakes or something.  Turns out that it isn't an issue (see edit to last post).

Snakes aren't entirely reliable when the boss has obstacles on their side, though.  I've had snakes that only hit a couple a times when fighting Bubbleman.  Doesn't seem like such a useful chip now, looking over the boss strategies and seeing it in none..

Edit for new stuff:
Thought there was a snake from one of the jobs Tora "persuades" Lan to do, it's actually in a locked data on Tamako's pc.  Might leave the snake R from Higsby in stash, because the folder is mostly D after I fix it up, and the snake here is D.  Need to come up with another 4k to buy an unlocker somewhere though.
Snake is still kind of useless until Alpha.. but now that I can get one before the zoo computer I might find some use for it in randoms.

Lifesword is awesome and greatly uncomplicates some of the bosses.  Notably, Desertman v1 dies in two and v2 dies to lifesword->masterstyle.
Double edit regarding Desertman - can't believe I overlooked this.  The second wave from varsword's slashwave is water element, so if I make the first wave miss, the second will stun him and the other two will connect.  From starting position, or any where there isn't a column in front of him, throw the slashwave from left of the hands so that they will take the first wave; otherwise stand on the grabbed panel and the interposing column will take the first wave.
(This strategy assumes a preset areagrab, which you use to take the center panel of his front row before attacking him, because otherwise it's random whether you can connect lifesword on him.)

Fullcust may be available as early as the Plantman scenario, but I haven't checked any earlier than the start of Flameman's.

Might have to look at the math for my strategy vs Alpha again.. varswords against a protected core weren't doing as much as I thought, and I needed to throw snakes or a lifesword or something to get him to <=900 HP.  I thought I saw airshot and shockwave break the core's protection in one hit, too, where lifesword did not.

Also have yet to check how much HP is needed to run away from encounters in specific areas.  Seems like running from anything in undernet is impossible given the available HP memory.
Didn't go out of my way to collect money, apart from job 7 where you fight twinners for 10k, and still had enough to buy all the stuff I wanted and then a few HP memories on the side later in the game.

That's about all of it, I think, except to connect the dots with the shortest lines. [In progress now.]

PreddY

2008-11-29 10:51:22 am

Hope rides alone.

dude, hurry!

i cant wait to see the segments rushing in! as an EXE fan I always waited for a run to come up, and even the TASers didnt come up with a strat...

whats your estimated time?

Cromarty

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Cromarty: 2008-11-29 06:59:19 pm

2008-11-29 02:38:26 pm

astral guard

Well, the first test I did on console came to 5:19:xx, but I didn't have all the details worked for the route and had to backtrack a bunch, so I'm hoping to get the time below 5 hours depending on how the current test goes. Lots of time to gain if I can find a way to buy some HP memories early in the game, I think.
Edit: test 2's clear time was 5:15:xx.

I'll post up the complete route when that's done, probably do one more test to decide on places to segment, and then start recording if nothing changes.

ForteGS

2008-11-30 08:00:32 am

Bring me the flaming voodoo canonball!

I once did a test run of MMBN2, which was just barely over 5 hours (5:05).
Sadly I don't have a GBA Player :-( And my parents won't allow me to buy via EBay etc
Damn parents >_>

I first used a lifesword folder (changing from swords to elemental swords to elemental blades) untill I had the chips to make the Gater P.A.
Poor Freezeman, Fake Bass and Gospel don't stand a chance against it Tongue

Cromarty

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Cromarty: 2008-12-02 01:05:07 pm

2008-12-01 11:54:24 pm

astral guard

^What's included in ebay etc? I got my gba player from amazon, they've been good for me thus far.

Well, whoever said powerups affect Megaman's chances to run in games where running is a feature and not a chip, they're correct - in testing, I determined that for each area in BN3, there is a specific HP value at or beyond which running will always succeed, regardless of the enemies encounter (bosses excluded).

Values are as follows, for most major areas (area - HP for 100% run success):
acdc 1 - 100 (!)
acdc 2 - 120
acdc 3 - 140
principal's pc - 140
scilab - 200
zoo network 1 - 200
beach - 300
hades - 360
hospital network - 380
undernet 1 - 400
undernet 2 - 440
undernet 3 - 480
undernet 4 - 500
undernet 5 - 540
WWW computers - 540

By manipulating one green data to give out 1k each time I went into the net, as well as collecting some blue data and from job 7 ("rare chips for cheap") I was able to buy a pile of HP memory and wasn't compelled to fight any randoms until very late in the game. Mostly I intended to have enough to skip unneeded battles in Hades, because of how bad the folder is, but the effects were much more than I anticipated.
Endtime for this test: 3:56:xx.
Still some kinks to work out of the route, so I can have 540 HP to avoid fights in the WWW computers, but beyond that it should be ready to post tomorrow.

^What's included in ebay etc?  I got my gba player from amazon, they've been good for me thus far.

Well, whoever said powerups affect Megaman's chances to run in games where running is a feature and not a chip, they're correct - in testing, I determined that for each area in BN3, there is a specific HP value at or beyond which running will always succeed, regardless of the enemies encounter (bosses excluded).

Values are as follows, for most major areas (area - HP for 100% run success):
acdc 1 - 100 (!)
acdc 2 - 120
acdc 3 - 140
principal's pc - 140
scilab - 200
zoo network 1 - 200
beach - 300
hades - 360
hospital network - 380
undernet 1 - 400
undernet 2 - 440
undernet 3 - 480
undernet 4 - 500
undernet 5 - 540
WWW computers - 540

By manipulating one green data to give out 1k each time I went into the net, as well as collecting some blue data and from job 7 ("rare chips for cheap") I was able to buy a pile of HP memory and wasn't compelled to fight any randoms until very late in the game.  Mostly I intended to have enough to skip unneeded battles in Hades, because of how bad the folder is, but the effects were much more than I anticipated.
Endtime for this test: [b]3:56:xx.[/b]
Still some kinks to work out of the route, so I can have 540 HP to avoid fights in the WWW computers, but beyond that it should be ready to post tomorrow.

PreddY

2008-12-02 09:20:11 am

Hope rides alone.

Dude, that is THE sh*t! I always wanted a run on MMBN and now it finally happened. will you upload to youtube? please do so, wanna watch it asap!

Great work!

yoshmaster5

2008-12-02 10:59:32 am

Also tenkiforecast

Wow, I never knew that. 0_o;

As for that run time... epic. just epic.

I'm waiting eagerly for your actual run! ^_^

Cromarty

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Cromarty: 2008-12-03 06:12:53 pm

2008-12-02 09:51:32 pm

astral guard

This is exciting to work on, too. Grin

Sometimes, anyway. Organizing and formatting the route after all the testing was pretty boring.
I'll put up video for a couple of the early bosses, but I don't want to spoil everything before it's even gotten to verifiers.

Anyway, here's the route. It's a bit messy, but it should be readable, I hope.
Edit: corrected budget to include Desertman's 2.5k drop and removed two green data manips accordingly, fixed distribution of fire chips in hospital net that would've resulted in attempting to burn trees without fire, added segmentation.

swap chips out in this order:
sidegun, minibomb S, recov10, panelout1, shotgun, cannon A, minibomb B, cannon B, v-gun, guard/cannon D, attack+10, sword

modtools:
kteiue2d - super armor

stage 1 - Flashman

day 1
tutorial - preset attack+10, talk to everyone
chat - talk to Mayl, get regup1 from chalkboard (up) (+1, 5mb), talk to Dex and Yai, go to park
n1 event - talk to mom
[save]
start at Lan's pc {
fight mettaurs on visits to acdc 3 that require encounters, get 2 shockwave D and add them to folder when they turn up
acdc 2* - get 1.3k from green data, get 800z blue data, get copydamage and add to folder
[save]
(check acdc 3 data for recov30 before recording, if it's there manipulate it to appear on the elephant platform)
acdc 3* - get longsword E
acdc square - buy hp memory (+1, 120 hp), get event mission from navi
acdc 3* - get O from side branch on path to acdc 1
acdc square - talk to navi
acdc 2 - get X from copydamage platform
acdc square - talk to navi }
[save]
reenter Lan's pc {
acdc 1 - get X from first side path
acdc 2 - get >=300z from green data
acdc 3* - get recov30 * from green data (assuming it didn't turn up already)
acdc square - talk to navi again }
chat2 - talk to mom
[save]
start at Lan's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from green data
Yai's hp - get regup2 (left) (+3, 7mb), talk to navis }

night 1
Dex's disk - scene at school gate
[save]
jack in at Yai's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens, get key from copydamage platform }
get disk from container with green lid
get rockcube (right), hp memory (left) (+2, 140 hp) from school server in teacher's lounge
add rockcube to folder, preset off
scene in principal's office, then talk to Mayl->Yai->Dex, get parasol from other classroom, scene in principal's office {
principal's pc 1 - talk to mister prog, turn on lights in other classroom, get 600z from mister prog's platform, get regup1 (+4, 8mb) from near entry point, get keydata A from blue platform on the way back, get keydata B from far platform, get keydata C from other far platform
principal's pc 2 - talk to green navi, turn on lights in teacher's lounge, get 1.2k from green navi platform, get hp memory (+3, 160 hp) and password A from pencil area, password C from by statue, password B from right corner of large platform
[save]
fight Flashman
Flashman (300 hp) - draw airshot+rockcube with 100 hp worth of stuff, bugfrag him }
exit teacher's lounge
[save]
fight Gutsman
Gutsman (300 hp) - same as Flashman, also bugfrag him }
add Gutsman to folder
bedtime (don't save!)

stage 2 - Beastman

day 2
talk to Yai, then Mayl, then Chisao, then Dex in classroom
[save]
fight Gutsman
Gutsman v2 (700 hp) - dunno how fast this can be done, also bugfrag him
scilab - get regup2 (+6, 10mb) from drink machine (right), talk to scientist by computer on second floor, check both of Dex's emails for dexcode and acdc square shortcut, get and do job 2 (sick navi) for regup3 (+9, 13mb)
[save]
n1 event - jack in at Dex's pc {
acdc 1 - get widesword from near path to acdc 3, get 1k from green data, take train to scilab area
scilab 2 - get regup2 (+11, 15mb) and preset Gutsman, add Gutsman v2 to folder
[save]
scilab 2 - get longsword L (8-9 rank swordy) and add to folder
[save]
scilab 2 - get another longsword L
[save]
scilab square - do survival battle
scilab 1 - talk to purple navi on upper platform
scilab 2 - fight purple navi in far path from center platform }
[save]
jack in at Yai's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from green data, buy areagrab * (switch in for areagrab L) and 2 hp memory from merchant (+5, 200 hp), talk to navi near copydamage platform for survival battle, exit "manually" }

day 3
yoka inn - scene at school, examine fence behind inn to end day

day 4
zoo - check email to do navicust tutorial, do crazy animal scene thing, on the way back get unlocker (right) from tv in room, get submem (down-right) (+1, 5) from armor display, get 900z (first left) and snake D from Tamako's pc (locked), buy 5 untraps, enter zoo network {
zoo network 1 - get 1k from right fork near start, get geddon1 D (bottom path from first "cage") and HP memory (bottom path from second cage) (+6, 220 hp)
zoo network 2 - get 600z along path
zoo network 3 - get 800z along path, get sneakrun program (behind programs for removing pandas), add snake D and geddon1 D to folder, preset areagrab *, compress sneakrun (R L B d d d), set navicust for sneakrun (with nothing else)
[save]
zoo network 4 - fight Beastman
Beastman (500 hp) - do damage, then lifesword }
bedtime

stage 3 - Bubbleman

day 5
Higsby - talk to Mayl, Dex, and Yai, then check email from Higsby, get HP memory from Numberman display (up-right) (+7, 240 hp)
[save]
get stuff from number trader
23415891 - airshoes program (u B B d A R)
15789208 - airshot3 *
33157825 - gaiablade *
21247895 - hicannon *
67918452 - fastgauge program (B d A R l R)
65497812 - salamander *
77955025 - spin white
54390805 - thunderbolt *
88543997 - tsunami *
35331089 - unlocker
63997824 - varsword F
add varsword F, airshot3, hicannon * to folder, compress airshoes (u B B d A R) and fastgauge (B d A R l R), set navicust for sneakrun+airshoes
get job from Higsby, get ordersys from guy in acdc station (bag in yoka inn under table), get nextjob, jack in at Lan's pc to fight guy in acdc 1, get final job, check email from Yai
[save]
jack in at Yai's pc {
scilab square - buy 2 hp memory (+9, 280 hp)
scilab 2 - deliver chip to pink navi, get 1k from green data }
talk to Higsby again
[save]
jack in at Yai's pc {
scilab square - trade longsword E for c.yoka pass
scilab 2 - get 1k from green data
yoka square - get "real navi" task }
fight both navis in acdc town, then navis in yoka, then the navi in scilab (segment between them)
[save]
jack in at scilab {
scilab 2 - get 1k from green data
[save]
yoka square - do survival battle }
go home

day 6
note - fight enemies along the way in yoka until you have 10 water chips (excluding fountain)
visit Mayl
[save]
jack in at Dex's pc {
acdc 1 - get 1k from green data
yoka square - buy hp memory (+10, 300 hp)
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap two green datas (use 1), get wind * }
talk to Higsby
[save]
jack in at Mayl's pc {
Mayl's hp - get hp memory (locked) (+11, 320 hp)
acdc 1 - scene, check email from Mayl for code
acdc 2 - get 1k from green data
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data, follow blue path for scene }
scilab - go into computer on second floor, get 1k (down) and talk to mister prog for fight and pressdata
acdc - talk to Higsby, go outside for a scene with Cossack
[save]
jack in at Dex's pc {
acdc 1 - get 1k from green data
set navicust for press+airshoes
yoka 2 - get hp memory (+12, 340 hp)
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data }
[save]
Yai's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens, fight guys at platform for style change }
[save]
Yai's pc {
scilab 1 - get 1k from greens, get invis, fight guys again, run back to train
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data
add relevant part of masterstyle to folder, set navicust for sneakrun+airshoes
[save]
fight Bubbleman
Bubbleman (500 hp) - block the bubbles with rockcube, do damage and then lifesword }
bedtime

stage 4 - Desertman

day 7
invitation - everyone else's house is locked
[save]
jack in at Lan's pc {
acdc 1 - visit Roll at Mayl's hp
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens, visit Glyde at Yai's hp
acdc 1 again - talk to mister prog at Dex's hp, go back out and train to yoka
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data, talk to Gutsman, check email for c.beach pass, run back through yoka to take train to beach
[save]
beach 2 - buy an untrap, fight yorts for a yoyo G
set navicust for press+sneakrun before tiny path
beach square - buy varsword D and fish program, talk to yellow navi
add varsword D to folder, set navicust for sneakrun+airshoes
[save]
beach 1 - break some faces and save the day }
thing delivery - talk to same guy on second floor of scilab to deliver thing, do job 7, then go home

day 8
n1 finals - buy modtools at beach street, add super armor code to navicust
[save]
fight Kingman
Kingman (800 hp) - pick two of lifesword and varsword
hades - check email from dad after scene to get expmem, check email from Mayl for shortcut to yoka, get hp memory (+13, 360 hp) from boat ramp on hades isle
compress fish (L R d u l r), set navicust for airshoes+fish+press with super armor
[save]
hades computer - fight coldheads for iceball, get hadeskey (top level), jack out
back into hades computer for victdata (bottom level)
[save]
take far right door to fight Metalman on grass stage
Metalman v2 (800 hp) - hit on front row with burners and non-fire swords
intermission - get n1 folder c from the scientist guy (snake folder), take a nap
[save] (after the folder is locked)
fight Gutsman
Gutsman v2 (700 hp) - snaaaaaaaaaaake (let him break the panels for you)
intermission 2 - switch back to primary folder, talk to Ribitta, talk to Chaud
[save]
fight Kingman
Kingman (800 hp) - same same
go outside to Mayl and Dex for a scene, go back to the studio for more scenes with Chaud, go upstairs
[save]
fight Desertman
Desertman (800 hp) - preset areagrab, destroy one hand and lure the other to fire such that areagrab takes the center panel, hit twice using lifesword and varsword, make varsword's first slashwave hit an obstacle and the second hit Desertman to stun him and get most of the damage out of it

stage 5 - Plantman

day 9
visiting Yai - order varsword from Higsby (10k), get fullcust (30) from hidden bugfrag trader, talk to Yai (left hospital room), get 9k (down) from vending machine and then examine it for scene, talk to Mamoru on beach, talk to Yai again, go home

day 10
do scenes until email from Tamako arrives
add varsword, areagrab L, and fullcust to folder, preset fullcust, set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+press with super armor, check email from Tamako for shortcut
Tora's jobs - go to scilab, talk to Tora
[save]
stuntman - jack in at scilab, take train to beach, do thing in beach 1 - awards hp memory (+14, 380)
dnn viruses - van (right), 2f door panel (right), battle console (down)
finding friends - talk to guy in acdc park, go to yoka 1 through Mayl's shortcut
([save] just before yoka 1)
to talk to navi and untrap a green data, talk to scientist-looking guy in yoka at zoo entrance, return to acdc guy
retrieve data - talk to guy by school server, go to scilab 1 upper level through Yai's shortcut to talk to mister prog (first turn after purple gate), jack out and back in to go to acdc 2 copydamage platform, trade yoyo G for insrdata, return data to guy by school server
then - after all jobs done, talk to Tora again and go home
(Tora gives a second custom folder with stuff in it here)

day 11
Dex goes somewhere - talk to everyone in Lan's class, go to Dex's house
visiting Mamoru - talk to Mamoru at the beach, talk to the doctor on 3f by the operating room, talk to Mamoru again, and then visit him in 2f right room and go home

day 12
visit Mamoru in 2f right room, get hp memory from 3f tree (+15, 400), go to operating room for scene, then elevator, then back up to 3f, check vines - jack in to hospital net 1 automatically {
[save]
hospital network 1 - get oilbody program, talk to mister prog for energychange program
remove icewaves and areagrab L from folder2, add areagrab L to folder, set navicust for airshoes+oilbody+energychange
burn right tree at fork to reach objective computer (need 2 fires here, get a third for next area) }
take stairs to 2f, jump out left room window, check basement door, get key from nurse inside, enter basement for scene (jack in to hospital net 2) {
hospital network 2 - get hp memory (+16, 420), get 1 fire from randoms, burn bottom patch on left fork for 2 fires and top patch for switch, fight virus thing }
go to operating room for scene (jack in to net 3) {
hospital network 3 - go right, take blue data for fire chip, burn tree, burn top corner of diamond for 2 fires and lower left "side" to warp, burn bottom patch of left path for 3 fires, then burn right tree to move on
hospital 4 - get 2k between "rightmost" and "topmost" patches, go to "leftmost" patches, burn right patch for 3 fires and top patch for switch, burn left end of long line for 3 fires and second from right end for warp, burn the tree
hospital 5 - far right for fire chip, burn top right of I-shape for 2 fires and top center for switch, burn middle of row of 3 for switch, go past tree and "up" and burn right corner for 3 fires and left corner for hp memory (+17, 440), go "down" and burn left corner for switch
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+press with super armor
fight Plantman
[save]
Plantman (1000 hp) - two varswords }
go home

stage 6 - Flameman

day 13
Match - talk to Cossack at scilab, buy unlocker from scientist guy, go to virus lab, jack in at scilab to get to yoka 2, fight both navis on bottom level (left side first), jack out
[save]
and back in {
beach 2 - buy 5 untraps, fight navi by beach square
beach 1 - get 1k from greens, fight both navis here }
back in for the last navi on the scilab 1 upper platform
out/back again {
scilab square - take shortcut to Yai's hp
acdc square - buy hp memory (+18, 460), do other thing }
beach - visit Mamoru in 2f right room
scilab - talk to Match in virus lab, go into scilab computer {
scilab 2/1 - give firedata to navi on first branch off sci1 upper path }
give heatdata to navi (left) in vending machine, give flamdata to navi (right) in lab computer, go home
set navicust for energychange+sneakrun+press
note - each net area has 3 fires to put out
internet is on fire oh noes - talk to guy in doorway at scilab
[save]
jack in at Lan's pc {
acdc 1 - can't get last fire until coming around from acdc 3
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens, do immediate right fork fire first
acdc 3 - do longsword, then purple lower path, then side branch on way to acdc 1
acdc 1 - last fire in this region, train to scilab
scilab 1 - get this fire on the bottom platform first
scilab 2 - do regup, then far path from center platform, then other one on way to sci1 }
reenter from Mayl's pc {
Mayl's hp - take shortcut to yoka
yoka 2 - do bottom fires first (right, then left), then take bottom path to yoka 1
yoka 1 - one fire, then go back
yoka 2 - one fire on top path
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data, do upper level fire first (near Tamako's hp) }
[save]
back in {
Mayl's hp - shortcut to yoka
yoka square - train to beach
beach 2 - go directly to beach 1
beach 1 - get 1k from greens, do fire on bottom level first, then teleporter to center platform, then get spin pink from the purple data, then take "exit" teleporter for last fire
beach 2 - do fire by tiny path, then near beach square, then teleport back down and hit the fire by exit to hades, take exit to hades and then undernet
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+fastgauge
[save]
undernet 2 - untrap a green data
undernet 3 - get hp memory (+19, 480) along the way
[save]
fight Flameman
Flameman (1000 hp) - put out the candles and kill him in two draws (via fullcust) }
aftermath - visit scilab 2f, go home

stage 7 - Drillman

day 14
visit dad in hospital 2f left room, talk to Chaud in virus lab to get blackmind program (r l r d R d)
yoka - enter at Tamako's pc {
Tamako's hp - take shortcut to beach
beach square - buy hp memory (+20, 500)
beach 2 - take teleporter to bottom, exit to undernet
[save]
undernet 2 - untrap a green data
set navicust for blackmind+sneakrun+fastgauge
undernet square - talk to navi on the bottom of the right platform (need blackmind), stand in front of the statue
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+fastgauge with super armor
[save]
undernet 3 - fight guys
undernet 1 (via 3->2) - fight one guy
undernet 2 - fight three guys
undernet 1 - fight two guys, scene informs location of rank 10 }
set navicust for press+sneakrun+fastgauge
beach - go to hades computer to fight rank 10 (platform on top level before the one that had the hadeskey)
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+fastgauge with super armor
[save]
zoo - fight goons in zoo network 2
[save]
then jack in at Tamako's pc {
Tamako's hp - shortcut
beach 1 - get 1k from greens, go into hospital computer
hospital network whatever number - talk to rank 9 }
set navicust for press+sneakrun+fastgauge with super armor
back in {
go to undernet
[save]
undernet 2 - untrap a green data
[save]
undernet 3 - fight Beastman v2
Beastman v2 (900 hp) - varswords, use super armor }
acdc - go to principal's pc 2 big platform to find rank 7
beach - get origami from hospital 2f right room, give it to rank 7, check email from Chaud
[save]
enter at Yai's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens
acdc square - check left bbs for scene }
yoka - enter at Tamako's pc {
Tamako's hp - shortcut
[save]
undernet 2 - untrap a green data
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+fastgauge with super armor (won't need to change again)
undernet 4 - buy hp memory (+21, 520)
[save]
fight Copyman
Copyman (Gutsman v3) (900 hp) - varswords, use super armor }
next - go to dnn studio console, fight Bowlman
Bowlman (1000 hp) - varswords and super armor
yoka - go to hidden room in yoka inn, scenes
enter at Yai's pc {
Yai's hp - shortcut
scilab square - buy hp memory (+22, 540)
scilab 1 - enter top level, take hole
[save]
undernet 5 - fight Drillman
Drillman (600 hp) - lifesword +/- snakes }

stage 8 - Alpha

day 15
join the officials - talk to Dex, Mayl, and Yai, check email from officials, take Yai's shortcut to scilab, get official pass from Protoman, go to scilab 2f, go to acdc (up-right for scene), get HP memory from tank (up), fight alpha bug, go to hospital 2f left room and talk to mom, check the bed for card key and note, go to dad's lab, check the boat at beach street, go to Yai's house to ask for a boat engine, bedtime

day 16
check email for Alpha program, go to boat on beach street, scenes {
[save]
WWW computer 1 - get id data A from final path on three-grabber thing, get grabbed
[save]
fight Flashman v2
Flashman v2 (500 hp) - varsword }
check left and then right Wily statue, scene {
[save]
WWW computer 2 - take left fork after second grabber path, add other three parts of masterstyle to folder
[save]
fight Bubbleman v2
Bubbleman v2 (800 hp) - two lifeswords or masterstyle
[save]
get id data B from bottom fork of grabber platform after Bubbleman, go left fork to proceed
[save]
fight Desertman v2
Desertman v2 (1200 hp) - areagrab, lifesword, then two varswords or masterstyle to finish, or something }
down the ramp for another scene {
[save]
WWW computer 3 - short path after initial grabbers has a hidden Alpha, go around outside at "squares" thing to get id data C, get grabbed
[save]
fight Plantman and Flameman
Plantman (1000 hp) - same as last time, try for two-move kill
Flameman (1000 hp) - try for two-move kill }
check cords to open path, up ramp for scene {
[save]
WWW computer 4 - hidden Alphas in 2, 4, 6 "knobs" on first path outside, go past teleporter for id data D
[save]
fight Drillman
Drillman (600 hp) - something }
[save]
lah lah lah fight Alpha {
Bass (1000 hp, 100 aura) - varswords
Alpha (2000 hp) - shockwave/airshot+varsword, lifesword if opportune, hold off at <=900 hp, finish with varsword+masterstyle
run back to start }
the end!
[autosave after credits - time display]

This is exciting to work on, too.  ;D  Sometimes, anyway.  Organizing and formatting the route after all the testing was pretty boring.
I'll put up video for a couple of the early bosses, but I don't want to spoil everything before it's even gotten to verifiers.

Anyway, here's the route.  It's a bit messy, but it should be readable, I hope.
Edit: corrected budget to include Desertman's 2.5k drop and removed two green data manips accordingly, fixed distribution of fire chips in hospital net that would've resulted in attempting to burn trees without fire, added segmentation.

swap chips out in this order:
sidegun, minibomb S, recov10, panelout1, shotgun, cannon A, minibomb B, cannon B, v-gun, guard/cannon D, attack+10, sword

modtools:
kteiue2d - super armor

stage 1 - Flashman
[spoiler]
day 1
tutorial - preset attack+10, talk to everyone
chat - talk to Mayl, get regup1 from chalkboard (up) (+1, 5mb), talk to Dex and Yai, go to park
n1 event - talk to mom
[save]
start at Lan's pc {
fight mettaurs on visits to acdc 3 that require encounters, get 2 shockwave D and add them to folder when they turn up
acdc 2* - get 1.3k from green data, get 800z blue data, get copydamage and add to folder
[save]
(check acdc 3 data for recov30 before recording, if it's there manipulate it to appear on the elephant platform)
acdc 3* - get longsword E
acdc square - buy hp memory (+1, 120 hp), get event mission from navi
acdc 3* - get O from side branch on path to acdc 1
acdc square - talk to navi
acdc 2 - get X from copydamage platform
acdc square - talk to navi }
[save]
reenter Lan's pc {
acdc 1 - get X from first side path
acdc 2 - get >=300z from green data
acdc 3* - get recov30 * from green data (assuming it didn't turn up already)
acdc square - talk to navi again }
chat2 - talk to mom
[save]
start at Lan's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from green data
Yai's hp - get regup2 (left) (+3, 7mb), talk to navis }

night 1
Dex's disk - scene at school gate
[save]
jack in at Yai's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens, get key from copydamage platform }
get disk from container with green lid
get rockcube (right), hp memory (left) (+2, 140 hp) from school server in teacher's lounge
add rockcube to folder, preset off
scene in principal's office, then talk to Mayl->Yai->Dex, get parasol from other classroom, scene in principal's office {
principal's pc 1 - talk to mister prog, turn on lights in other classroom, get 600z from mister prog's platform, get regup1 (+4, 8mb) from near entry point, get keydata A from blue platform on the way back, get keydata B from far platform, get keydata C from other far platform
principal's pc 2 - talk to green navi, turn on lights in teacher's lounge, get 1.2k from green navi platform, get hp memory (+3, 160 hp) and password A from pencil area, password C from by statue, password B from right corner of large platform
[save]
fight Flashman
Flashman (300 hp) - draw airshot+rockcube with 100 hp worth of stuff, bugfrag him }
exit teacher's lounge
[save]
fight Gutsman
Gutsman (300 hp) - same as Flashman, also bugfrag him }
add Gutsman to folder
bedtime (don't save!)
[/spoiler]

stage 2 - Beastman
[spoiler]
day 2
talk to Yai, then Mayl, then Chisao, then Dex in classroom
[save]
fight Gutsman
Gutsman v2 (700 hp) - dunno how fast this can be done, also bugfrag him
scilab - get regup2 (+6, 10mb) from drink machine (right), talk to scientist by computer on second floor, check both of Dex's emails for dexcode and acdc square shortcut, get and do job 2 (sick navi) for regup3 (+9, 13mb)
[save]
n1 event - jack in at Dex's pc {
acdc 1 - get widesword from near path to acdc 3, get 1k from green data, take train to scilab area
scilab 2 - get regup2 (+11, 15mb) and preset Gutsman, add Gutsman v2 to folder
[save]
scilab 2 - get longsword L (8-9 rank swordy) and add to folder
[save]
scilab 2 - get another longsword L
[save]
scilab square - do survival battle
scilab 1 - talk to purple navi on upper platform
scilab 2 - fight purple navi in far path from center platform }
[save]
jack in at Yai's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from green data, buy areagrab * (switch in for areagrab L) and 2 hp memory from merchant (+5, 200 hp), talk to navi near copydamage platform for survival battle, exit "manually" }

day 3
yoka inn - scene at school, examine fence behind inn to end day

day 4
zoo - check email to do navicust tutorial, do crazy animal scene thing, on the way back get unlocker (right) from tv in room, get submem (down-right) (+1, 5) from armor display, get 900z (first left) and snake D from Tamako's pc (locked), buy 5 untraps, enter zoo network {
zoo network 1 - get 1k from right fork near start, get geddon1 D (bottom path from first "cage") and HP memory (bottom path from second cage) (+6, 220 hp)
zoo network 2 - get 600z along path
zoo network 3 - get 800z along path, get sneakrun program (behind programs for removing pandas), add snake D and geddon1 D to folder, preset areagrab *, compress sneakrun (R L B d d d), set navicust for sneakrun (with nothing else)
[save]
zoo network 4 - fight Beastman
Beastman (500 hp) - do damage, then lifesword }
bedtime
[/spoiler]

stage 3 - Bubbleman
[spoiler]
day 5
Higsby - talk to Mayl, Dex, and Yai, then check email from Higsby, get HP memory from Numberman display (up-right) (+7, 240 hp)
[save]
get stuff from number trader
23415891 - airshoes program (u B B d A R)
15789208 - airshot3 *
33157825 - gaiablade *
21247895 - hicannon *
67918452 - fastgauge program (B d A R l R)
65497812 - salamander *
77955025 - spin white
54390805 - thunderbolt *
88543997 - tsunami *
35331089 - unlocker
63997824 - varsword F
add varsword F, airshot3, hicannon * to folder, compress airshoes (u B B d A R) and fastgauge (B d A R l R), set navicust for sneakrun+airshoes
get job from Higsby, get ordersys from guy in acdc station (bag in yoka inn under table), get nextjob, jack in at Lan's pc to fight guy in acdc 1, get final job, check email from Yai
[save]
jack in at Yai's pc {
scilab square - buy 2 hp memory (+9, 280 hp)
scilab 2 - deliver chip to pink navi, get 1k from green data }
talk to Higsby again
[save]
jack in at Yai's pc {
scilab square - trade longsword E for c.yoka pass
scilab 2 - get 1k from green data
yoka square - get "real navi" task }
fight both navis in acdc town, then navis in yoka, then the navi in scilab (segment between them)
[save]
jack in at scilab {
scilab 2 - get 1k from green data
[save]
yoka square - do survival battle }
go home

day 6
note - fight enemies along the way in yoka until you have 10 water chips (excluding fountain)
visit Mayl
[save]
jack in at Dex's pc {
acdc 1 - get 1k from green data
yoka square - buy hp memory (+10, 300 hp)
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap two green datas (use 1), get wind * }
talk to Higsby
[save]
jack in at Mayl's pc {
Mayl's hp - get hp memory (locked) (+11, 320 hp)
acdc 1 - scene, check email from Mayl for code
acdc 2 - get 1k from green data
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data, follow blue path for scene }
scilab - go into computer on second floor, get 1k (down) and talk to mister prog for fight and pressdata
acdc - talk to Higsby, go outside for a scene with Cossack
[save]
jack in at Dex's pc {
acdc 1 - get 1k from green data
set navicust for press+airshoes
yoka 2 - get hp memory (+12, 340 hp)
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data }
[save]
Yai's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens, fight guys at platform for style change }
[save]
Yai's pc {
scilab 1 - get 1k from greens, get invis, fight guys again, run back to train
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data
add relevant part of masterstyle to folder, set navicust for sneakrun+airshoes
[save]
fight Bubbleman
Bubbleman (500 hp) - block the bubbles with rockcube, do damage and then lifesword }
bedtime
[/spoiler]

stage 4 - Desertman
[spoiler]
day 7
invitation - everyone else's house is locked
[save]
jack in at Lan's pc {
acdc 1 - visit Roll at Mayl's hp
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens, visit Glyde at Yai's hp
acdc 1 again - talk to mister prog at Dex's hp, go back out and train to yoka
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data, talk to Gutsman, check email for c.beach pass, run back through yoka to take train to beach
[save]
beach 2 - buy an untrap, fight yorts for a yoyo G
set navicust for press+sneakrun before tiny path
beach square - buy varsword D and fish program, talk to yellow navi
add varsword D to folder, set navicust for sneakrun+airshoes
[save]
beach 1 - break some faces and save the day }
thing delivery - talk to same guy on second floor of scilab to deliver thing, do job 7, then go home

day 8
n1 finals - buy modtools at beach street, add super armor code to navicust
[save]
fight Kingman
Kingman (800 hp) - pick two of lifesword and varsword
hades - check email from dad after scene to get expmem, check email from Mayl for shortcut to yoka, get hp memory (+13, 360 hp) from boat ramp on hades isle
compress fish (L R d u l r), set navicust for airshoes+fish+press with super armor
[save]
hades computer - fight coldheads for iceball, get hadeskey (top level), jack out
back into hades computer for victdata (bottom level)
[save]
take far right door to fight Metalman on grass stage
Metalman v2 (800 hp) - hit on front row with burners and non-fire swords
intermission - get n1 folder c from the scientist guy (snake folder), take a nap
[save] (after the folder is locked)
fight Gutsman
Gutsman v2 (700 hp) - snaaaaaaaaaaake (let him break the panels for you)
intermission 2 - switch back to primary folder, talk to Ribitta, talk to Chaud
[save]
fight Kingman
Kingman (800 hp) - same same
go outside to Mayl and Dex for a scene, go back to the studio for more scenes with Chaud, go upstairs
[save]
fight Desertman
Desertman (800 hp) - preset areagrab, destroy one hand and lure the other to fire such that areagrab takes the center panel, hit twice using lifesword and varsword, make varsword's first slashwave hit an obstacle and the second hit Desertman to stun him and get most of the damage out of it
[/spoiler]

stage 5 - Plantman
[spoiler]
day 9
visiting Yai - order varsword from Higsby (10k), get fullcust (30) from hidden bugfrag trader, talk to Yai (left hospital room), get 9k (down) from vending machine and then examine it for scene, talk to Mamoru on beach, talk to Yai again, go home

day 10
do scenes until email from Tamako arrives
add varsword, areagrab L, and fullcust to folder, preset fullcust, set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+press with super armor, check email from Tamako for shortcut
Tora's jobs - go to scilab, talk to Tora
[save]
stuntman - jack in at scilab, take train to beach, do thing in beach 1 - awards hp memory (+14, 380)
dnn viruses - van (right), 2f door panel (right), battle console (down)
finding friends - talk to guy in acdc park, go to yoka 1 through Mayl's shortcut
([save] just before yoka 1)
to talk to navi and untrap a green data, talk to scientist-looking guy in yoka at zoo entrance, return to acdc guy
retrieve data - talk to guy by school server, go to scilab 1 upper level through Yai's shortcut to talk to mister prog (first turn after purple gate), jack out and back in to go to acdc 2 copydamage platform, trade yoyo G for insrdata, return data to guy by school server
then - after all jobs done, talk to Tora again and go home
(Tora gives a second custom folder with stuff in it here)

day 11
Dex goes somewhere - talk to everyone in Lan's class, go to Dex's house
visiting Mamoru - talk to Mamoru at the beach, talk to the doctor on 3f by the operating room, talk to Mamoru again, and then visit him in 2f right room and go home

day 12
visit Mamoru in 2f right room, get hp memory from 3f tree (+15, 400), go to operating room for scene, then elevator, then back up to 3f, check vines - jack in to hospital net 1 automatically {
[save]
hospital network 1 - get oilbody program, talk to mister prog for energychange program
remove icewaves and areagrab L from folder2, add areagrab L to folder, set navicust for airshoes+oilbody+energychange
burn right tree at fork to reach objective computer (need 2 fires here, get a third for next area) }
take stairs to 2f, jump out left room window, check basement door, get key from nurse inside, enter basement for scene (jack in to hospital net 2) {
hospital network 2 - get hp memory (+16, 420), get 1 fire from randoms, burn bottom patch on left fork for 2 fires and top patch for switch, fight virus thing }
go to operating room for scene (jack in to net 3) {
hospital network 3 - go right, take blue data for fire chip, burn tree, burn top corner of diamond for 2 fires and lower left "side" to warp, burn bottom patch of left path for 3 fires, then burn right tree to move on
hospital 4 - get 2k between "rightmost" and "topmost" patches, go to "leftmost" patches, burn right patch for 3 fires and top patch for switch, burn left end of long line for 3 fires and second from right end for warp, burn the tree
hospital 5 - far right for fire chip, burn top right of I-shape for 2 fires and top center for switch, burn middle of row of 3 for switch, go past tree and "up" and burn right corner for 3 fires and left corner for hp memory (+17, 440), go "down" and burn left corner for switch
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+press with super armor
fight Plantman
[save]
Plantman (1000 hp) - two varswords }
go home
[/spoiler]

stage 6 - Flameman
[spoiler]
day 13
Match - talk to Cossack at scilab, buy unlocker from scientist guy, go to virus lab, jack in at scilab to get to yoka 2, fight both navis on bottom level (left side first), jack out
[save]
and back in {
beach 2 - buy 5 untraps, fight navi by beach square
beach 1 - get 1k from greens, fight both navis here }
back in for the last navi on the scilab 1 upper platform
out/back again {
scilab square - take shortcut to Yai's hp
acdc square - buy hp memory (+18, 460), do other thing }
beach - visit Mamoru in 2f right room
scilab - talk to Match in virus lab, go into scilab computer {
scilab 2/1 - give firedata to navi on first branch off sci1 upper path }
give heatdata to navi (left) in vending machine, give flamdata to navi (right) in lab computer, go home
set navicust for energychange+sneakrun+press
note - each net area has 3 fires to put out
internet is on fire oh noes - talk to guy in doorway at scilab
[save]
jack in at Lan's pc {
acdc 1 - can't get last fire until coming around from acdc 3
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens, do immediate right fork fire first
acdc 3 - do longsword, then purple lower path, then side branch on way to acdc 1
acdc 1 - last fire in this region, train to scilab
scilab 1 - get this fire on the bottom platform first
scilab 2 - do regup, then far path from center platform, then other one on way to sci1 }
reenter from Mayl's pc {
Mayl's hp - take shortcut to yoka
yoka 2 - do bottom fires first (right, then left), then take bottom path to yoka 1
yoka 1 - one fire, then go back
yoka 2 - one fire on top path
[save]
yoka 1 - untrap a green data, do upper level fire first (near Tamako's hp) }
[save]
back in {
Mayl's hp - shortcut to yoka
yoka square - train to beach
beach 2 - go directly to beach 1
beach 1 - get 1k from greens, do fire on bottom level first, then teleporter to center platform, then get spin pink from the purple data, then take "exit" teleporter for last fire
beach 2 - do fire by tiny path, then near beach square, then teleport back down and hit the fire by exit to hades, take exit to hades and then undernet
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+fastgauge
[save]
undernet 2 - untrap a green data
undernet 3 - get hp memory (+19, 480) along the way
[save]
fight Flameman
Flameman (1000 hp) - put out the candles and kill him in two draws (via fullcust) }
aftermath - visit scilab 2f, go home
[/spoiler]

stage 7 - Drillman
[spoiler]
day 14
visit dad in hospital 2f left room, talk to Chaud in virus lab to get blackmind program (r l r d R d)
yoka - enter at Tamako's pc {
Tamako's hp - take shortcut to beach
beach square - buy hp memory (+20, 500)
beach 2 - take teleporter to bottom, exit to undernet
[save]
undernet 2 - untrap a green data
set navicust for blackmind+sneakrun+fastgauge
undernet square - talk to navi on the bottom of the right platform (need blackmind), stand in front of the statue
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+fastgauge with super armor
[save]
undernet 3 - fight guys
undernet 1 (via 3->2) - fight one guy
undernet 2 - fight three guys
undernet 1 - fight two guys, scene informs location of rank 10 }
set navicust for press+sneakrun+fastgauge
beach - go to hades computer to fight rank 10 (platform on top level before the one that had the hadeskey)
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+fastgauge with super armor
[save]
zoo - fight goons in zoo network 2
[save]
then jack in at Tamako's pc {
Tamako's hp - shortcut
beach 1 - get 1k from greens, go into hospital computer
hospital network whatever number - talk to rank 9 }
set navicust for press+sneakrun+fastgauge with super armor
back in {
go to undernet
[save]
undernet 2 - untrap a green data
[save]
undernet 3 - fight Beastman v2
Beastman v2 (900 hp) - varswords, use super armor }
acdc - go to principal's pc 2 big platform to find rank 7
beach - get origami from hospital 2f right room, give it to rank 7, check email from Chaud
[save]
enter at Yai's pc {
acdc 2 - get 1k from greens
acdc square - check left bbs for scene }
yoka - enter at Tamako's pc {
Tamako's hp - shortcut
[save]
undernet 2 - untrap a green data
set navicust for airshoes+sneakrun+fastgauge with super armor (won't need to change again)
undernet 4 - buy hp memory (+21, 520)
[save]
fight Copyman
Copyman (Gutsman v3) (900 hp) - varswords, use super armor }
next - go to dnn studio console, fight Bowlman
Bowlman (1000 hp) - varswords and super armor
yoka - go to hidden room in yoka inn, scenes
enter at Yai's pc {
Yai's hp - shortcut
scilab square - buy hp memory (+22, 540)
scilab 1 - enter top level, take hole
[save]
undernet 5 - fight Drillman
Drillman (600 hp) - lifesword +/- snakes }
[/spoiler]

stage 8 - Alpha
[spoiler]
day 15
join the officials - talk to Dex, Mayl, and Yai, check email from officials, take Yai's shortcut to scilab, get official pass from Protoman, go to scilab 2f, go to acdc (up-right for scene), get HP memory from tank (up), fight alpha bug, go to hospital 2f left room and talk to mom, check the bed for card key and note, go to dad's lab, check the boat at beach street, go to Yai's house to ask for a boat engine, bedtime

day 16
check email for Alpha program, go to boat on beach street, scenes {
[save]
WWW computer 1 - get id data A from final path on three-grabber thing, get grabbed
[save]
fight Flashman v2
Flashman v2 (500 hp) - varsword }
check left and then right Wily statue, scene {
[save]
WWW computer 2 - take left fork after second grabber path, add other three parts of masterstyle to folder
[save]
fight Bubbleman v2
Bubbleman v2 (800 hp) - two lifeswords or masterstyle
[save]
get id data B from bottom fork of grabber platform after Bubbleman, go left fork to proceed
[save]
fight Desertman v2
Desertman v2 (1200 hp) - areagrab, lifesword, then two varswords or masterstyle to finish, or something }
down the ramp for another scene {
[save]
WWW computer 3 - short path after initial grabbers has a hidden Alpha, go around outside at "squares" thing to get id data C, get grabbed
[save]
fight Plantman and Flameman
Plantman (1000 hp) - same as last time, try for two-move kill
Flameman (1000 hp) - try for two-move kill }
check cords to open path, up ramp for scene {
[save]
WWW computer 4 - hidden Alphas in 2, 4, 6 "knobs" on first path outside, go past teleporter for id data D
[save]
fight Drillman
Drillman (600 hp) - something }
[save]
lah lah lah fight Alpha {
Bass (1000 hp, 100 aura) - varswords
Alpha (2000 hp) - shockwave/airshot+varsword, lifesword if opportune, hold off at <=900 hp, finish with varsword+masterstyle
run back to start }
the end!
[autosave after credits - time display]
[/spoiler]

MrSparkle

2008-12-02 11:42:46 pm

Doin Good

Very impressive work Cromarty! Still comprehending the route, so I can't critique it quite yet (not that my knowledge is that much any more). This run planning has quickly gotten to the ready to run point thanks to your hard work. SS is looking far more doable now, although the heavy luck manipulation could seperate the catagories by over an hour easily...

Hoping you make a great run soon! Who knows it could start interest in runs of the other 5...

Magoichi Saika

2008-12-03 01:25:26 am

Awesome stuff. Can't wait to see the vid.

PreddY

2008-12-03 02:05:26 am

Hope rides alone.

just give us some piece of viewable stuff we can feast on, please!

Raven75

2008-12-05 07:18:48 am

It's-a me, Raven!

Preddy: http://hosted.filefront.com/RavenSF Cheesy

Better than nothing, I guess? Wink

Too bad 1) nobody's running MMBN1 anymore 2) I can't record it myself anymore.

ForteGS

2008-12-06 08:23:08 am

Bring me the flaming voodoo canonball!

Quote from Cromarty:

^What's included in ebay etc? I got my gba player from amazon, they've been good for me thus far.

Everything that let's me order online and/or import stuff.

MMBN3 was also one of my favorites. I remember one of the WWW machines being annoyinh because of the many grabbers in a row.
You needed to know the patern to make it trough without getting nabbed and thrown in the "jail".

MMBN3 advice: Either remember the maps, or download the maps from gamefaqs. They have a rar file with every map of the game, including info of BMD/PMD contents.

Cromarty

2008-12-10 12:20:45 am

astral guard

The WWW computers are terrible, especially the last stretch right before refighting Drillman with a line of eight or something. At least I won't have to fight anything..

Recording is in progress now.
All of the luck manipulation looks nice on paper, but actually getting it to work is something else. So far almost all my restarts are due to undesirable luck. The worst part is having to constantly audit my play as I'm going, because of the single save. I never want to run a single-save game in segments again. Sad

Anyway, I said I'd put up a boss or two, so here's Bubbleman:
http://files.filefront.com/mmbn3+sample+HQmp4/;12608831;/fileinfo.html
That fight is the high point of the run thus far.

Raven75

2008-12-10 09:19:27 am

It's-a me, Raven!

Holy crud

Fastest bossfight I've ever seen!
Been itching to play a MMBN game again, so I plopped in Battle Chip Challenge. Too bad that one has ZERO speedrun potential. My kind of game; tell it what it should do, and let it run its own Cheesy

yoshmaster5

2008-12-10 04:37:17 pm

Also tenkiforecast

Wow. That was... EPIC.

Dude... FOUR. FREAKING. SECONDS. 0_o;;;;;
For a STORYLINE boss, that is just... ungodly amazing. Seriously. ... *bows in AWE*

PreddY

2008-12-11 04:57:43 am

Hope rides alone.

wow, did you get all those * chips in story mode? amazing. nice fight. I demand more! show us at least one real segment with walking and luck manipulation etc. please Smiley

ForteGS

2008-12-11 10:11:58 am

Bring me the flaming voodoo canonball!

OMG, such a quick time with one of the most annoying bosses in the game o.o
I always hated Bubbleman and Drillman in this game (And Serenade in the Secret Area).
Damn Bubbleman V3 who only appears when your HP is critical >_>

I will eat my shoe if every boss from this Bubbleman to Alpha is so fast o.o

yoshmaster5

2008-12-11 04:28:25 pm

Also tenkiforecast

Quote from PreddY:

wow, did you get all those * chips in story mode? amazing. nice fight. I demand more! show us at least one real segment with walking and luck manipulation etc. please Smiley

MMBN 3Blue has a vendor in ACDC 2 that sells Areagrab *
Aside from that, the Bolt chip you get from Higsby's machine, along with all the other Element-specific chips.

Cromarty

2008-12-15 09:43:23 am

astral guard

Maybe I should post the first fight with Drillman then, since he takes two and a half. Cheesy

Anyway - this run is done, check out the verification topic!

yoshmaster5

2008-12-15 05:39:06 pm

Also tenkiforecast

...

Jeez, I'm really looking forward to see how you pulled THAT off. *thumbs up*
Either way, I'm going to have a download quota once a lot of these are posted. ^_^

ForteGS

2008-12-17 02:08:06 am

Bring me the flaming voodoo canonball!

Quote from Cromarty:

Maybe I should post the first fight with Drillman then, since he takes two and a half. Cheesy

Anyway - this run is done, check out the verification topic!

Awesome ^_^

Now we only need:
MMBN
MMBN2
MMBN3 Blue(Black)/White
MMBN4 RS/BM
MMBN5 TP/TC/DS
MMBN6 CG/CF
MM NT
RockmanExe 4.5
All the mobile games

Hopefully every Megaman series will be done at december 31st 2010 Tongue

PreddY

2008-12-17 02:12:11 am

Hope rides alone.

Quote from ForteGS:

Quote from Cromarty:

Maybe I should post the first fight with Drillman then, since he takes two and a half. Cheesy

Anyway - this run is done, check out the verification topic!

Awesome ^_^

Now we only need:
MMBN
MMBN2
MMBN3 Blue(Black)/White
MMBN4 RS/BM
MMBN5 TP/TC/DS
MMBN6 CG/CF
MM NT
RockmanExe 4.5
All the mobile games

Hopefully every Megaman series will be done at december 31st 2010 Tongue

MMBN3 Blue is done now, right? ^^

5 and 6 are not an option, because they take too long and are too hard with no good chips. And 4.5 is bad because of all the backtracking you are forced to do...so count those out Cheesy

looking forward to watching your run!

Sata

2008-12-25 05:22:59 am

Pro-Leroer

Quote from Cromarty:

Maybe I should post the first fight with Drillman then, since he takes two and a half. Cheesy

Anyway - this run is done, check out the verification topic!

Where is it?!

I can't find it anywhere.