Killzone 2

2015-07-19 10:32:39 pm

I hope you finish this run. I tried years ago, but I couldn't adjust to the controller.

2015-07-20 04:07:42 pm

I did 2 runs so far, this one recently uploaded. some bullcrap moments partially on game being glitchty and RNG. got 2:06:53, not great run but decent for now.

scenic

2015-07-25 03:02:36 pm

Killzone 2 Radec boss fight (easy kill)

"Easy way to kill Radec, this was done on elite mode.
By using the flamethrower on Radec he will run around burning while you can easily shoot him. Dont waste all flamethrower ammo at once. After sometime the fire on him will diseappear and you have to set him on fire again. Repeat it and you get easy kill. Watch him burn and scream!"

Soliduz Znake

Edit history:

Soliduz Znake: 2015-07-25 03:19:05 pm

2015-07-25 03:14:47 pm

nice find. will try that out. instead of waiting for Radec to teleport to final phase you could easily wait him there, risky but faster than aiming for accurate shot.

Soliduz Znake

2015-07-29 03:57:56 pm

got 2hrs 24secs WR. really had bad moment at the end but was mostly good RNG and risky strats with close moments that could have ended the run.

scenic

2015-08-03 10:26:22 pm

Some notes:
0. need to learn the map better. Sometimes you're bringing up the waypoints or going the wrong way.
1. prep grenade before enemies appear. When you release, it detonates right away.
2. when planting c4, you're doing it wrong somehow. I know you can release them faster. At the last stage when you blow up 4-5 towers, one of the c4 was planted fast so I know you can do it
3. try stopping a sprint before you reach the limit and then try sprinting again. Is this faster than the cool down time required?
4. last stage before radec appears, I knife everyone. I don't shoot them at all except the missile dudes (you use grenade launcher, which is correct)
5. Is end of Corinth river (1st stage) faster if you just knife them instead of trying to shoot? Try experimenting here. Can you skip a lot of stuff by jumping off the skywalks instead of clearing the tower and then sliding down the ladder?
6. Blood Meridian - when you shoot the two white energy pods on that lightning weapon. Here's a faster method. Prep your grenade so that you throw it right when it opens up. Then shoot them until destroyed. Saves on cycle.
7. in your video - 4 Killzone 2 - speedrun IL - Salamun District (9_34) - at 7:40 . why jump? wouldn't shooting the beige laser boxes be faster?
8. visari palace where you need to blow up 4-5 towers, I think the number of enemies in each is the same isn't it? Could save time checking each one

That's all I remember.

Some notes:
0. need to learn the map better. Sometimes you're bringing up the waypoints or going the wrong way.
1. prep grenade before enemies appear. When you release, it detonates right away.
2. when planting c4, you're doing it wrong somehow. I know you can release them faster. At the last stage when you blow up 4-5 towers, one of the c4 was planted fast so I know you can do it
3. try stopping a sprint before you reach the limit and then try sprinting again. Is this faster than the cool down time required?
4. last stage before radec appears, I knife everyone. I don't shoot them at all except the missile dudes (you use grenade launcher, which is correct)
5. Is end of Corinth river (1st stage) faster if you just knife them instead of trying to shoot? Try experimenting here. Can you skip a lot of stuff by jumping off the skywalks instead of clearing the tower and then sliding down the ladder?
6. Blood Meridian - when you shoot the two white energy pods on that lightning weapon. Here's a faster method. Prep your grenade so that you throw it right when it opens up. Then shoot them until destroyed. Saves on cycle.
7. in your video - 4 Killzone 2 - speedrun IL - Salamun District (9_34) - at 7:40 . why jump? wouldn't shooting the beige laser boxes be faster?
8. visari palace where you need to blow up 4-5 towers, I think the number of enemies in each is the same isn't it? Could save time checking each one

That's all I remember.

Soliduz Znake

2015-08-04 04:20:33 am

Quote from scenic:

Some notes:
0. need to learn the map better. Sometimes you're bringing up the waypoints or going the wrong way.
1. prep grenade before enemies appear. When you release, it detonates right away.
2. when planting c4, you're doing it wrong somehow. I know you can release them faster. At the last stage when you blow up 4-5 towers, one of the c4 was planted fast so I know you can do it
3. try stopping a sprint before you reach the limit and then try sprinting again. Is this faster than the cool down time required?
4. last stage before radec appears, I knife everyone. I don't shoot them at all except the missile dudes (you use grenade launcher, which is correct)
5. Is end of Corinth river (1st stage) faster if you just knife them instead of trying to shoot? Try experimenting here. Can you skip a lot of stuff by jumping off the skywalks instead of clearing the tower and then sliding down the ladder?
6. Blood Meridian - when you shoot the two white energy pods on that lightning weapon. Here's a faster method. Prep your grenade so that you throw it right when it opens up. Then shoot them until destroyed. Saves on cycle.
7. in your video - 4 Killzone 2 - speedrun IL - Salamun District (9_34) - at 7:40 . why jump? wouldn't shooting the beige laser boxes be faster?
8. visari palace where you need to blow up 4-5 towers, I think the number of enemies in each is the same isn't it? Could save time checking each one

That's all I remember.

0 - I bring way points just to be safe, doesn't really cost any time loss while running. mostly I use it in Tharsus refinery where you go through the tunnel with multiple exits.
1 - I use grenades for AI manipulation not to kill them, it saves more time to run pass them when they disperse rather than have to kill all of them.
2 - C4 planting is done via sixaxis control, as in you have to rotate the controller which can be screwed up. not always precise.
3 - tried that and its same results, similar time to pause and to run out stamina then recover.
4 - knifing works but really risky. I tried many times and got killed because there is no cover without having Helghast flank you multiple directions.
5 - its timed for the last stage, doesn't matter killing them since they run away which triggers cutscene.
6 - I tried that its not possible at all, the trigger frame is smaller than it looks and reading the meter on the grenade isn't reliable at all for exact timing when it explode. I even tried with an RPG instead of a gun and both pods won't explode same time despite damage radius for RPGs.
7 - I need more practice on jumping precisely without risk of dying. I know I made it slower in the IL run but with perfect execution its faster than shooting the mine. you take damage from shooting 1st two mines and there is a risk dying doing them without recovering.
8 - I panicked in that level, I was being too safe. thats the only part of the single segment run I screwed up.

Hopefully I'll get some good RNG doing next runs. any slight mistake could ruin the run e.g. throwing grenades, the amount of damage you take from Helghasts, even shooting a RPG can get the rocket deflected by bullets which is not rare shown in the run. plus if you've played Killzone before you'd know there is not auto-aim assist and the AI aren't dumb like average shooters.

[quote="scenic"]Some notes:
0. need to learn the map better. Sometimes you're bringing up the waypoints or going the wrong way.
1. prep grenade before enemies appear. When you release, it detonates right away.
2. when planting c4, you're doing it wrong somehow. I know you can release them faster. At the last stage when you blow up 4-5 towers, one of the c4 was planted fast so I know you can do it
3. try stopping a sprint before you reach the limit and then try sprinting again. Is this faster than the cool down time required?
4. last stage before radec appears, I knife everyone. I don't shoot them at all except the missile dudes (you use grenade launcher, which is correct)
5. Is end of Corinth river (1st stage) faster if you just knife them instead of trying to shoot? Try experimenting here. Can you skip a lot of stuff by jumping off the skywalks instead of clearing the tower and then sliding down the ladder?
6. Blood Meridian - when you shoot the two white energy pods on that lightning weapon. Here's a faster method. Prep your grenade so that you throw it right when it opens up. Then shoot them until destroyed. Saves on cycle.
7. in your video - 4 Killzone 2 - speedrun IL - Salamun District (9_34) - at 7:40 . why jump? wouldn't shooting the beige laser boxes be faster?
8. visari palace where you need to blow up 4-5 towers, I think the number of enemies in each is the same isn't it? Could save time checking each one

That's all I remember.[/quote]

0 - I bring way points just to be safe, doesn't really cost any time loss while running. mostly I use it in Tharsus refinery where you go through the tunnel with multiple exits. 
1 - I use grenades for AI manipulation not to kill them, it saves more time to run pass them when they disperse rather than have to kill all of them. 
2 - C4 planting is done via sixaxis control, as in you have to rotate the controller which can be screwed up. not always precise.
3 - tried that and its same results, similar time to pause and to run out stamina then recover. 
4 - knifing works but really risky. I tried many times and got killed because there is no cover without having Helghast flank you multiple directions.
5 - its timed for the last stage, doesn't matter killing them since they run away which triggers cutscene. 
6 - I tried that its not possible at all, the trigger frame is smaller than it looks and reading the meter on the grenade isn't reliable at all for exact timing when it explode. I even tried with an RPG instead of a gun and both pods won't explode same time despite damage radius for RPGs. 
7 - I need more practice on jumping precisely without risk of dying. I know I made it slower in the IL run but with perfect execution its faster than shooting the mine. you take damage from shooting 1st two mines and there is a risk dying doing them without recovering.
8 - I panicked in that level, I was being too safe. thats the only part of the single segment run I screwed up.

Hopefully I'll get some good RNG doing next runs. any slight mistake could ruin the run e.g. throwing grenades, the amount of damage you take from Helghasts, even shooting a RPG can get the rocket deflected by bullets which is not rare shown in the run. plus if you've played Killzone before you'd know there is not auto-aim assist and the AI aren't dumb like average shooters.

scenic

2015-08-06 03:19:57 am

Ya, Killzone is hard. That's why I gave up trying to run it. I don't know how you peeps do single seg. I look forward to your next attempt.

Soliduz Znake

2015-08-06 04:14:39 am

its the challenge, thats why i speedrun it Cheesy

scenic

Edit history:

scenic: 2015-09-19 11:03:45 pm

2015-09-19 11:01:46 pm

Check this out. You can save a few seconds off each dcharge. IIRC, press "o" after the dcharge is ready to walk away faster.

youtu.be /EfQjyFOK-HA?t=343

copy the link above (delete the space) and paste into web browser to see the exact time. Embedding doesn't work.

Also, nice IL runs. Good routes.

Soliduz Znake

2015-09-20 04:33:46 am

oh shit how did I miss that Dx. thnx for that, never would have I figured it out despite trying Tongue

scenic

2015-10-22 04:25:51 pm

I can't find 720p for your latest single segment speedrun ( on youtube. Would be possible to upload it?

Soliduz Znake

2015-10-22 04:37:58 pm

@scenic I was streaming at that time, couldn't stream in high quality because of frame drops Sad

scenic

2015-10-22 07:43:28 pm

Oh, I see. That's too bad Sad

Good run tho Smiley

Soliduz Znake

2015-11-02 08:21:35 am

this is what I have to deal with Killzone 2

so frustrating yet also hilarious how physics can screw up

scenic

2015-11-06 05:18:00 am

Just had a thought...have you tried just shooting foes to delay their attacks and run past them - instead of knifing each one?

Here's a situation where it would help (if it works) https://yo utu.be/BgxoX9h8NOc?t=378

Soliduz Znake

2015-11-07 03:15:48 pm

in that part I had to kill those 3 helghast plus the 4th one far otherwise Garza will be busy with them instead of going to the wall.

helghast don't get stunned easily and sometimes not worth it when they are more around most of the time. its faster to knife them instead. though I do it in later missions where i get the lightmachine gun or submachine like tharsis refinery.

Soliduz Znake

2015-11-30 02:34:35 pm

I think I found a glitch that might be useful for speedrun, not sure. I don't how its done but it always happens when I run and melee a helghast then your running animation disappears. your character is motionless in a stiff stance and you move without camera shaking. im guessing this is the infinite stamina run. hope anyone would experiment too.

Caveberry

2015-12-03 12:18:31 am

trepidation

Sounds cool. AFAIK, this run is pretty much glitchless, and it's all just playing the game efficiently. It would be great to see a replicable glitch make it into the run, otherwise it just becomes "someone playing the game well". Do you stream or record video? I could better find out what's going on if there was a video of the glitch.

Keep fighting the good fight Soliduz! I would really like to see a super optimized run. I'm a big fan of the series. KZ:SF sold really well too, so we might have more games to run in the future.

Soliduz Znake

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Soliduz Znake: 2015-12-03 07:14:54 am

Soliduz Znake: 2015-12-03 07:13:00 am

2015-12-03 03:25:48 am

its definitely glitchless but there are skips easily done but sometimes risky. I'm hoping to find glitches like OoB but can't because of the limitations put in the game like invisible walls. I don't usually stream but I have YT https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXPQI3XTNkqkrDKWWqkAxig/videos & speedrun site page http://www.speedrun.com/Killzone_2
I'll try to record one for the glitch, it usually happens with the RPG melee-ing and running.
thx for the support. this game's RNG can be harsh and crush your motivation.

EDIT: this how it looks like

Soliduz Znake

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Soliduz Znake: 2016-01-16 10:03:01 am

Soliduz Znake: 2016-01-16 03:31:56 am

2016-01-16 03:15:13 am

this came up just now in search when it didn't come by before long time ago
http://www.ign.com/wikis/killzone-2/Glitches

will try to do it to see if it wasn't patched up or something.

edit: can be done but not sure how to pass the next section with loading them

Soliduz Znake

2016-01-19 02:27:15 pm

I'm so tired of the amount of crap RNG in this game not even the new strats improve the older run by that much. I wasted so much time reseting on this one with no sign of improvement. this is it.

scenic

2016-01-26 10:46:26 pm

Have you considered doing segmented instead or single segment?

Soliduz Znake

2016-01-27 04:19:45 am

http://www.speedrun.com/Killzone_2/individual_levels
these are the fastest I could get so far. I haven't submitted IL runs in SDA.

scenic

2016-01-28 06:27:06 am

Oh, good stuff.