GTA San Andreas Official Thread

2014-05-26 04:06:24 am

photo opp
in order to land on a boat, what u do is jump onto the fence (infront of the boat obviously), then without holding/pressing any keys u jump again, as opposed to holding "W" and jumping which will land u short of boat into water

shenanigans SHENANIGANS
by applying pause buffering in some sort of way, it is possible to skip dialogues during "cutscenes" where u have control of cj, such as emmets in nines and aks, some catalinas, torenos at the end of noe, triads at the start of home in hills and other places i overlooked

i tried once each of the above and it sort of worked, all my other efforts went into consistent nines and aks(cuz i wanted to go one by one obv), it would skip 3,2,1 or 0 emmet phrases and i just couldnt find any correlation, or any hits of consistency

if u do it wrong u are gonna hear same phrases multiple times

one thing i noticed is that after ive re-loaded and done nines and aks multiple times over and over, the skip become real easy to do and 100% consistent, but after i restarted the game everything changed back

other fact that didnt help, is that i cant record the skip, cuz pause buffering during recording is slower, and it appears to be to slow for the skip to work

MOST of the above is my guess cuz i really have no idea how it works

photo opp
in order to land on a boat, what u do is jump onto the fence (infront of the boat obviously), then without holding/pressing any keys u jump again, as opposed to holding "W" and jumping which will land u short of boat into water

shenanigans SHENANIGANS
by applying pause buffering in some sort of way, it is  possible to skip dialogues during "cutscenes" where u have control of cj, such as emmets in nines and aks, some catalinas, torenos at the end of noe, triads at the start of home in hills and other places i overlooked

i tried once each of the above and it sort of  worked, all my other efforts went into consistent nines and aks(cuz i wanted to go one by one obv), it would skip 3,2,1 or 0 emmet phrases and i just couldnt find any correlation, or any hits of consistency

if u do it wrong u are gonna hear same phrases multiple times

one thing i noticed is that after ive re-loaded  and done nines and aks multiple times over and over, the skip become real easy to do and 100% consistent, but after i restarted the game everything changed back

other fact that didnt help, is that i cant record the skip, cuz pause buffering during recording is slower, and it appears to be  to slow for the skip to work

MOST of the above is my guess cuz i really have no idea how it works

Nixixix

2014-05-27 07:07:02 pm

Quote from Patrick:

I do not see how input like
AAAAADADSAWADAW is more likely to trigger a cheat than
AAAAADADSAWADQE
The only thing 'special' about wsad is that they are used often, so using a 'non-special key' like q (or q&e) probably does not help.

This (and the rest) is basically correct. However, D⁷A⁶DWD alone is so ridiculously easy to hit compared to other cheats that any deviation from the normal use of WSAD is likely to help at least a little. It may not be worth it anyway, however that is defined, because even that single cheat should still be pretty rare in "random" gameplay.

To look at things from a more practical perspective, I ran some simulations.

I assumed the key press likelihoods like this: A/D same as last: 55%, A/D switching direction: 30%, W: 10%, S: 5%. These numbers don't exactly correspond to the complexity scores from earlier, but are still pulled from my ass. The likelihood of lots of presses after S without a W should also be lowered, but this isn't all that significant. Results:

WSAD:
309 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 324k)
280 DDDDDDDAAAAAADWD
2 AAAADADSAWADAW
+ 27 codes once

Any change in the input pattern shouldn't radically diminish the 27 miscellaneous hits, but D⁷A⁶DWD alone is responsible for 90% of cheat activations. Adding another 20% (for a total of 120% Wink

) of random presses of Q just to avoid that one cheat does actually work:

WSAD + 20% Q:
50 cheats in 120M keypresses (~ 1 in 2400k)
17 DDDDDDDAAAAAADWD
+ 33 codes once

120M presses instead of 100M because the presses of Q are added to the presses needed for normal gameplay. Added keypresses increase the chances of hitting cheats, and the hit codes include Qs so new codes are triggered where old ones are avoided, but these effects are dwarfed by the reduction of hits to D⁷A⁶DWD.

Then again, 20% is probably more than you can hit Q without it disturbing your play, so the actual effect will be lower unless you can make sure to break every D⁷A⁶DWD with it anyway – that's all that matters. It's better to change the controls though:

EDSF:
34 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 2941k)
4 FFEFEDSFFFSSFSSS
2 FFFFSSFFFEFFFSSFFSSSF
+ 28 codes once

RFDG:
47 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 2128k)
11 DDDRDDGGRDDDDDR
7 GGDDRDDDGGFGDGDD
2 DRDGGDGGDGRGFD
2 DGGDRDDFDGDDDDFD
+ 25 codes once

For comparison, the French layout:

ZSQD:
76 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 1316k)
48 QQZDDDDQZDDQQQ
3 DDQDSDSSDQDQ
2 QQSDDQQQDQDDDDQQQQDDQ
2 DDDZZQQQQQQQDDDQDQQDDD
2 DDDZDSDDDQQQQQDQQQS
+ 19 codes once

[quote="Patrick"]I do not see how input like
AAAAADADSAWAD[b]AW[/b] is more likely to trigger a cheat than
AAAAADADSAWAD[b]QE[/b]
The only thing 'special' about wsad is that they are used often, so using a 'non-special key' like q (or q&e) probably does not help.[/quote]
This (and the rest) is basically correct. However, D⁷A⁶DWD alone is so ridiculously easy to hit compared to other cheats that any deviation from the normal use of WSAD is likely to help at least a little. It may not be worth it anyway, however that is defined, because even that single cheat should still be pretty rare in "random" gameplay.

To look at things from a more practical perspective, I ran some simulations.

I assumed the key press likelihoods like this: A/D same as last: 55%, A/D switching direction: 30%, W: 10%, S: 5%. These numbers don't exactly correspond to the complexity scores from earlier, but are still pulled from my ass. The likelihood of lots of presses after S without a W should also be lowered, but this isn't all that significant. Results:

WSAD:
309 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 324k)
280 DDDDDDDAAAAAADWD
2 AAAADADSAWADAW
+ 27 codes once

Any change in the input pattern shouldn't radically diminish the 27 miscellaneous hits, but D⁷A⁶DWD alone is responsible for 90% of cheat activations. Adding another 20% (for a total of 120% ;) ) of random presses of Q just to avoid that one cheat does actually work:

WSAD + 20% Q:
50 cheats in 120M keypresses (~ 1 in 2400k)
17 DDDDDDDAAAAAADWD
+ 33 codes once

120M presses instead of 100M because the presses of Q are added to the presses needed for normal gameplay. Added keypresses increase the chances of hitting cheats, and the hit codes include Qs so new codes are triggered where old ones are avoided, but these effects are dwarfed by the reduction of hits to D⁷A⁶DWD.

Then again, 20% is probably more than you can hit Q without it disturbing your play, so the actual effect will be lower unless you can make sure to break every D⁷A⁶DWD with it anyway – that's all that matters. It's better to change the controls though:

EDSF:
34 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 2941k)
4 FFEFEDSFFFSSFSSS
2 FFFFSSFFFEFFFSSFFSSSF
+ 28 codes once

RFDG:
47 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 2128k)
11 DDDRDDGGRDDDDDR
7 GGDDRDDDGGFGDGDD
2 DRDGGDGGDGRGFD
2 DGGDRDDFDGDDDDFD
+ 25 codes once

For comparison, the French layout:

ZSQD:
76 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 1316k)
48 QQZDDDDQZDDQQQ
3 DDQDSDSSDQDQ
2 QQSDDQQQDQDDDDQQQQDDQ
2 DDDZZQQQQQQQDDDQDQQDDD
2 DDDZDSDDDQQQQQDQQQS
+ 19 codes once

wOoX

2014-05-29 12:25:23 pm

nines and aks
tanker commander

how to do: move mouse fast horizontally (in nines and aks i actually moved it left to right, but it seems only left moves were registred)
so its harder on low sensitivity and easier on high

S.

Edit history:

S.: 2014-05-31 12:28:03 pm

S.: 2014-05-31 12:10:35 pm

S.: 2014-05-31 12:10:25 pm

S.: 2014-05-31 11:41:31 am

S.: 2014-05-31 11:36:09 am

2014-05-31 11:25:46 am

Edit: Nvm, I responded to a post from a few weeks back that apparently SDA said was an unread post :/ Can we switch to a different forum already?

TenmaPL

2014-06-01 04:51:07 am

Why don't you just do a patch and turn off cheats completely ? I'm not a master at RE but i've done it in GTA3 some time ago...

Patrick

2014-06-01 04:53:22 am

Changing the game is not allowed. The way I see it is that this is just an annoyance like many other annoyances in this game and we are working around every single one of them until running this game is fun.
Wink

That last part was a joke.

TenmaPL

2014-06-01 04:56:28 am

Yes i understand but this is like fixing a bug that crashes the game... it doesn't affect gameplay, it doesn't make the game easier, it just deactivates te cheat codes.

Patrick

2014-06-01 05:21:50 am

This seams to be a quite arbitrary issue. But there are at least some facts: being scared to activate a cheat affects your performance; trying to work arround it using q or the arrow keys disturbs game play. Not being able to activate cheats does not make playing the game easier, but makes getting a good run easier because less attempts get destroyed by them.
'Disabling' a cheat would probably not be too hard, I know of cheats where no key sequence can activate them, like the 'cars swim' cheat, so just change all cheats to that one.

Nixixix: Alright, I was wrong. Cheesy

Thanks for the simulation. I do not like having to switch position (like edsf), so I just switched to the French layout. What is the work to try some more layouts? Can you test those, please? ^^ They are pre-installed on win7: q-kc (dvorak for only the left hand) 678z (... right hand) ,AOE (standard dvorak). On all the non-latin keyboards I tried, the game pretends it were a qwerty keyboard. The Turkish F-Keyboard is interesting, on it the breaking button is an I with a dot above it, and you cannot type baguvix with it - maybe other cheats, though. You seam very enthusiastic about this issue, so you might try to find out if this button is ignored.

wOoX: line skipping works well enough for me at 25 fps (I set both keyboard settings at the maximum), and horribly at a high frame rate (don't know how high, but >50), one skip in the ~30 lines I tested (phone call). You are playing with ~30 fps. So the mouse movement is to lower the frame rate, I guess... I checked that manually and there does not seam to be a single dropped frame in the video, all is clean 1st frame pause->2nd frame game->pause->game etc. Are you sure that this works? There might be a different reason for why it works or maybe you are in error.

This seams to be a quite arbitrary issue. But there are at least some facts: being scared to activate a cheat affects your performance; trying to work arround it using q or the arrow keys disturbs game play. Not being able to activate cheats does not make playing the game easier, but makes getting a good run easier because less attempts get destroyed by them.
'Disabling' a cheat would probably not be too hard, I know of cheats where no key sequence can activate them, like the 'cars swim' cheat, so just change all cheats to that one.

Nixixix: Alright, I was wrong. :D Thanks for the simulation. I do not like having to switch position (like edsf), so I just switched to the French layout. What is the work to try some more layouts? Can you test those, please? ^^ They are pre-installed on win7: q-kc (dvorak for only the left hand) 678z (... right hand) ,AOE (standard dvorak). On all the non-latin keyboards I tried, the game pretends it were a qwerty keyboard. The Turkish F-Keyboard is interesting, on it the breaking button is an I with a dot above it, and you cannot type baguv[i]i[/i]x with it - maybe other cheats, though. You seam very enthusiastic about this issue, so you might try to find out if this button is ignored.

wOoX: line skipping works well enough for me at 25 fps (I set both keyboard settings at the maximum), and horribly at a high frame rate (don't know how high, but >50), one skip in the ~30 lines I tested (phone call). You are playing with ~30 fps. So the mouse movement is to lower the frame rate, I guess...  I checked that manually and there does not seam to be a single dropped frame in the video, all is clean 1st frame pause->2nd frame game->pause->game etc. Are you sure that this works? There might be a different reason for why it works or maybe you are in error.

wOoX

2014-06-01 06:49:01 am

thanks for feedback

i play/record at 25fps, this skip works for ME 100% of the time, like literally never failed. your feedback is the only one i got, if "line skipping works well enough for me at 25 fps" is @ nines and aks, then its looking goood so far

i just played nines and aks with framelimeter off and >100 fps and it skipped almost instanly
there is no unskippable phonecalls in the game?(except sweets girl?, is there any?), so they are irrelevant, just like high fps =S

how i think the whole skipping thing works is that if u move camera around, it glitches sound, because sound is played based on camera position, rather than "cj's head"(at least i think it is)

^that makes phonecall skip and emmet skip - different type of skips
for one thing is that phonecall skip works just fine w/o any mousemovements
just tested phonecall with framelimiter off, and it seem to work better than at 25fps

the "pause buffering" thing generates frames while you do it, so the reason it may not work is hardware related, for that more feedback would be nice

thanks for feedback

i play/record at 25fps, this skip works for ME 100% of the time, like literally never failed. your feedback is the only one i got, if "line skipping works well enough for me at 25 fps" is @ nines and aks, then its looking goood so far

i just played nines and aks with framelimeter off and >100 fps and it skipped almost instanly
there is no unskippable phonecalls in the game?(except sweets girl?, is there any?), so they are irrelevant, just like high fps =S

how i think the whole skipping thing works is that if u move camera around, it glitches sound, because sound is played based on camera position, rather than "cj's head"(at least i think it is)

^that makes phonecall skip and emmet skip - different type of skips
for one thing is that phonecall skip works just fine  w/o any mousemovements
just tested phonecall with framelimiter off, and it seem to work better than at 25fps

the "pause buffering" thing generates frames while you do it, so the reason it may not work is hardware related, for that more feedback would be nice

S.

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S.: 2014-06-01 07:05:47 am

2014-06-01 07:00:18 am

you shouldn't fix bugs that crash the game, since they are just the rules of the game. In Half-Life 2 if I do something specific in a certain map I crash my game. If i change the game to make it not crash, I would be able to go faster than I would be if I didn't change the game. Changing = modification, and is not allowed.

In GTA: San Andreas 100% if I kill myself during the "safehouse purchased" the game crashes. If we were to 'patch' the game to not crash if that happens, I would be able to save a few seconds in 100%. But that's modification.

If I don't kill the soldiers in Robbing Uncle Sam, my game will crash as I try to collect oysters. Fix this crash and I can save some seconds by not killing soldiers. But that's modification.

For some reason my game randomly crashes if I change camera modes after finishing Robbing Uncle Sam. I could fix this and enjoy the comfort of a better camera, thus maybe saving a frame or two on that drive, or I could just not switch camera modes for a while.

It's just the rules of this game. You do X and the game will respond with Y.
1) ou do a deathwarp while buying a safehouse? Game will respond with a crash.
2) You input DDDDDDDAAAAAADWD? Game will respond with a cheatcode.
Solution:
1) Don't deathwarp during a safehouse
2) Don't input DDDDDDDAAAAAADWD

As Patrick said, the discomfort of knowing that you can input cheats affects performance. Modification of the game has never been allowed except for some visual things (windowed mode), why would it now? If I am allowed to set variable "Can input cheats" to False, I am also allowed to set variable "Perennials can spawn" to False. In both cases all I'm doing is change one single value.

you shouldn't fix bugs that crash the game, since they are just the rules of the game. In Half-Life 2 if I do something specific in a certain map I crash my game. If i change the game to make it not crash, I would be able to go faster than I would be if I didn't change the game. Changing = modification, and is not allowed.

In GTA: San Andreas 100% if I kill myself during the "safehouse purchased" the game crashes. If we were to 'patch' the game to not crash if that happens, I would be able to save a few seconds in 100%. But that's modification.

If I don't kill the soldiers in Robbing Uncle Sam, my game will crash as I try to collect oysters. Fix this crash and I can save some seconds by not killing soldiers. But that's modification.

For some reason my game randomly crashes if I change camera modes after finishing Robbing Uncle Sam. I could fix this and enjoy the comfort of a better camera, thus maybe saving a frame or two on that drive, or I could just not switch camera modes for a while.

It's just the rules of this game. You do X and the game will respond with Y.
1) ou do a deathwarp while buying a safehouse? Game will respond with a crash.
2) You input DDDDDDDAAAAAADWD? Game will respond with a cheatcode.
Solution: 
1) Don't deathwarp during a safehouse
2) Don't input DDDDDDDAAAAAADWD

As Patrick said, the discomfort of knowing that you can input cheats affects performance. Modification of the game has never been allowed except for some visual things (windowed mode), why would it now? If I am allowed to set variable "Can input cheats" to False, I am also allowed to set variable "Perennials can spawn" to False. In both cases all I'm doing is change one single value.

Nixixix

Edit history:

Nixixix: 2014-06-01 12:15:15 pm

2014-06-01 12:07:57 pm

Quote from Patrick:

'Disabling' a cheat would probably not be too hard, I know of cheats where no key sequence can activate them, like the 'cars swim' cheat, so just change all cheats to that one.

These are the 0 entries in the hash table in the exe. Hidden: information and how to activate them (not for speedrunning).

The first 0 spawns a Rancher and is the one that gets activated when a code that hashes to 0 is entered. The second 0 is the drive on water cheat, the third 0 I don't know. It says "cheat activated" every time and I couldn't quickly tell what it does even by looking at the code; possibly nothing. The fourth 0 is "hookers pay" (like completing pimping AFAIK), and the fifth (last) 0 gives taxis nitro and jump (like completing taxi missions AFAIK). By altering the table you can only disable 87 cheats of the 88, but patching the code is not hard either. But as discussed, don't do either if you're seriously speedrunning. We can't even be 100% sure (maybe 99.9) that a given change to the exe (or its memory while running) does absolutely nothing besides the obvious effect. I don't trust Rockstar's coding (or even my own often) even if they didn't intend any such effects.

To try the disabled cheats:
1. Make a backup of your gta_sa.exe (DVD) or gta-sa.exe (Steam)
2. Copy the exe to another name like gta-sa-hidden-cheats.exe
3. Open the renamed copy in a hex editor
4. Search for "45 7E 13 4B", replace the following "00 00 00 00" with "F9 DA AF 7F" (WaterCar)
5. A little after that, replace the next "00 00 00 00" (after "85 43 16 70") with "99 18 FF E1" (CheatX) or "D0 65 3B A5" (HHHHHH for easy activation)
6. Run the modified exe, type WaterCar, CheatX or HHHHHH to activate the drive on water cheat and the unknown one
7. Only use the unmodified exe for speedrunning

Quote from Patrick:

What is the work to try some more layouts? Can you test those, please? ^^ They are pre-installed on win7: q-kc (dvorak for only the left hand) 678z (... right hand) ,AOE (standard dvorak). On all the non-latin keyboards I tried, the game pretends it were a qwerty keyboard.

Running the simulation with different layouts is very easy when you know how the game counts the keys. Thanks for testing!

,OAE:
39 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 2564k)
6 EAEEAOAAAOEAAE
3 ,,EAEEEAAEEAAEAA
2 EEEA,AEEEEEEEEEEAA,O
2 EA,EAEAAAAEEAAAEAAAAE
2 AEEAAEAAAO,E,EE
+ 24 codes once

QK-C:
23 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 4348k)
2 C--CCQ--Q-C--CCCC--
+ 21 codes once

687Z:
38 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 2632k)
2 Z677ZZZ87ZZZ87
+ 36 codes once

Dvorak/left seems great! All of these are better than previously tested layouts with the WSAD keys.

Quote from Patrick:

The Turkish F-Keyboard is interesting, on it the breaking button is an I with a dot above it, and you cannot type baguvix with it - maybe other cheats, though. You seam very enthusiastic about this issue, so you might try to find out if this button is ignored.

In general, finding out if an input is ignored is simple if you know how to activate any cheat with the layout. Just press the questionable key in the middle of the working cheat sequence, and iff the cheat still works, the key is ignored. Based on that test, the İ key does affect cheats. I don't think it's useful to find out what exact byte sequence it's counted as.

[quote="Patrick"]'Disabling' a cheat would probably not be too hard, I know of cheats where no key sequence can activate them, like the 'cars swim' cheat, so just change all cheats to that one.[/quote]
These are the 0 entries in the hash table in the exe. Hidden: information and how to activate them (not for speedrunning).
[hidden]The first 0 spawns a Rancher and is the one that gets activated when a code that hashes to 0 is entered. The second 0 is the drive on water cheat, the third 0 I don't know. It says "cheat activated" every time and I couldn't quickly tell what it does even by looking at the code; possibly nothing. The fourth 0 is "hookers pay" (like completing pimping AFAIK), and the fifth (last) 0 gives taxis nitro and jump (like completing taxi missions AFAIK). By altering the table you can only disable 87 cheats of the 88, but patching the code is not hard either. But as discussed, don't do either if you're seriously speedrunning. We can't even be 100% sure (maybe 99.9) that a given change to the exe (or its memory while running) does absolutely nothing besides the obvious effect. I don't trust Rockstar's coding (or even my own often) even if they didn't intend any such effects.

To try the disabled cheats:
1. Make a backup of your gta_sa.exe (DVD) or gta-sa.exe (Steam)
2. Copy the exe to another name like gta-sa-hidden-cheats.exe
3. Open the renamed copy in a hex editor
4. Search for "45 7E 13 4B", replace the following "00 00 00 00" with "F9 DA AF 7F" (WaterCar)
5. A little after that, replace the next "00 00 00 00" (after "85 43 16 70") with "99 18 FF E1" (CheatX) or "D0 65 3B A5" (HHHHHH for easy activation)
6. Run the modified exe, type WaterCar, CheatX or HHHHHH to activate the drive on water cheat and the unknown one
7. Only use the unmodified exe for speedrunning[/hidden]

[quote="Patrick"]What is the work to try some more layouts? Can you test those, please? ^^ They are pre-installed on win7: q-kc (dvorak for only the left hand) 678z (... right hand) ,AOE (standard dvorak). On all the non-latin keyboards I tried, the game pretends it were a qwerty keyboard.[/quote]
Running the simulation with different layouts is very easy when you know how the game counts the keys. Thanks for testing!

,OAE:
39 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 2564k)
6 EAEEAOAAAOEAAE
3 ,,EAEEEAAEEAAEAA
2 EEEA,AEEEEEEEEEEAA,O
2 EA,EAEAAAAEEAAAEAAAAE
2 AEEAAEAAAO,E,EE
+ 24 codes once

QK-C:
23 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 4348k)
2 C--CCQ--Q-C--CCCC--
+ 21 codes once

687Z:
38 cheats in 100M keypresses (~ 1 in 2632k)
2 Z677ZZZ87ZZZ87
+ 36 codes once

Dvorak/left seems great! All of these are better than previously tested layouts with the WSAD keys.

[quote="Patrick"]The Turkish F-Keyboard is interesting, on it the breaking button is an I with a dot above it, and you cannot type baguv[i]i[/i]x with it - maybe other cheats, though. You seam very enthusiastic about this issue, so you might try to find out if this button is ignored.[/quote]
In general, finding out if an input is ignored is simple if you know how to activate any cheat with the layout. Just press the questionable key in the middle of the working cheat sequence, and iff the cheat still works, the key is ignored. Based on that test, the İ key does affect cheats. I don't think it's useful to find out what exact byte sequence it's counted as.

Patrick

Edit history:

Patrick: 2014-06-02 03:29:24 pm

2014-06-02 02:47:57 pm

wOox:
looking into this a bit myself is on my to-do list, I am not thrilled about it, though.^^ The things I am more interested in have priority. ^^
"there is no unskippable phone call"
This one is "yours": in Sweet's Girl there is an unskippable phone call.
The trick can be used in Zero missions 2 (ozone smell)&3('get out of my town blablabla'), too lazy to think about test drive Tongue

(maybe risks soft lock at 'back up, back up!' ?), save time in Breaking the Bank ('Zero: We've got Mafia gorillas coming to the' ... forgot the word^^).
Maybe it saves time in Madd Dogg (last line before the jump, or even lines before?)

If you hold esc during the low-rider challenge, you cannot complete the mission: the music stops and it keeps looping back to the last arrow you were supposed to hop on, so there is no progress.

Arkadius500

2014-06-04 08:43:51 am

Hello everyone,

I was testing some stuff for Snail Trail.
My original Idea was to stick a satchel to the Cab.
This scares the cab driver, causing him to drive through red lights etc.
When the guy gets out of the cab you blow the satchal charge, and kill them both.

Unfortunately this doesnt work. The satchel becomes useless, it might work when you are much closer to the cab, but I havent tested that.
Also: the satchel has to be stuck at the moment just before the guy gets in the cab. This would mean sacrificing swimming time.
The drive might save some time, but swimming later on will cost more time (I think).

So, I was testing whether or not rockets would work. Misterpost already used Rocket strats (which I did not know until now).
I watched his run, and I think I have a new location where to fire the rocket. The main advantages are:
- You jump down the pier before the end of the mission, saving some time.
- You fire from the beach, and it is almost a straight diagonal line to the bridge to badlands.
- There is no traffic on the beach, which might save some time and also reduces the risk of crashes.

I have made a youtube video for this strat, I missed the first rocket, because it was too high. The second rocket did hit, I included an image as a reference to where I shot it. You can improve this strat by firing earlier, and getting on the bike when the rocket travels through the air.

Video:

Overall, I think it might save 5-10 seconds, which isnt a lot ofc. However, all small things add up.

Good luck on the runs runners!

Mark

#ESAHYPE

Hello everyone,

I was testing some stuff for Snail Trail.
My original Idea was to stick a satchel to the Cab.
This scares the cab driver, causing him to drive through red lights etc.
When the guy gets out of the cab you blow the satchal charge, and kill them both.

Unfortunately this doesnt work. The satchel becomes useless, it might work when you are much closer to the cab, but I havent tested that.
Also: the satchel has to be stuck at the moment just before the guy gets in the cab. This would mean sacrificing swimming time. 
The drive might save some time, but swimming later on will cost more time (I think).

So, I was testing whether or not rockets would work. Misterpost already used Rocket strats (which I did not know until now).
I watched his run, and I think I have a new location where to fire the rocket. The main advantages are:
- You jump down the pier before the end of the mission, saving some time.
- You fire from the beach, and it is almost a straight diagonal line to the bridge to badlands.
- There is no traffic on the beach, which might save some time and also reduces the risk of crashes.

I have made a youtube video for this strat, I missed the first rocket, because it was too high. The second rocket did hit, I included an image as a reference to where I shot it. You can improve this strat by firing earlier, and getting on the bike when the rocket travels through the air.

Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krI5LwO_qak

Overall, I think it might save 5-10 seconds, which isnt a lot ofc. However, all small things add up.

Good luck on the runs runners!

Mark

#ESAHYPE

Random_Machine

Edit history:

Random_Machine: 2014-06-05 06:02:46 pm

Random_Machine: 2014-06-05 06:02:30 pm

Random_Machine: 2014-06-05 06:02:01 pm

2014-06-05 06:01:35 pm

I'm just showing how I do the mission here. There is no pause buffer jump, but I do a different jump. The jump at the end can't kill you unless you have low health(30% or less). Don't do this if you have low health. I got lucky and it didn't damage me. This is at 25 fps.

My understanding of why people didn't try to kill the guys on the bikes was because you can blow up the van. You can kill them easily if you get this spawn. Make sure not to align your bike in the direction of the gas tank on the van. The middle spawn stops too quickly for you to do this. And the other spawn is easier to shoot the van's gas tank.

S.

2014-06-06 03:17:49 pm

Quote:

LXGIWYL 64MQ6Z JQJIP3 HESOYAM OSRBLHH ASNAEB AZTR1M ICIKPYH 3PAAXUE OEQ3TKC 4RNCWV YSOHNUL MDU7TJ LIYOAAY ZQ1MDAO PWE6KO FOOOXFT OBBU2HO CQZIJMB K5E65Q PDNEJOH YE9GJF PIQBF0S KRIJEBR H8AUWR RZHSUEW CPKTNWT XICWMD PGGOMOY SZCMAWO ZEIIVG YLTEICZ RPWN3H LYQO19 K5E65Q A03A9R ZFDV1U UOETDAG KVGYZQK YAEZ4D OKETMF6 CIKGCGX MROEMZH FHYSTV BBYQS4W BEKKNQV RSMNAYX GB0DQH RIPAZHA 6BTVH9 JHDDT5 TQQWSES JY75BQ COXEFGU MQHJEZP XJVSNAJ OFVIAC MGHXYRM EYKTSSO K5E65Q LFGMHAL TA97RV H6YBFT OFW3APM YECGAA AEZAKMI LJSPQK IAVENJQ AEDUWNV WSLK3P PRIEBJ MUNASEF WANRLTW OUIQDMW THGLOJ OZEXJCE SJMAHPE JKUK1M MCXS7X OGXSDAG MCR40H YYZ0C2 QUEWSOD VQIMAHA OHDUDE NAV74K HC2GPIN EEGCYXT URKQSRK M3TOA5 K5E65Q K5E65Q

Which one of these is the cars fly cheat?

Nixixix

Edit history:

Nixixix: 2014-06-07 02:53:05 am

2014-06-07 02:52:34 am

^ RIPAZHA. Hidden below is my current list of all cheats: effects, hashes, shortest codes (A-Z0-9), most likely intended codes.

The descriptions and previously known codes are from http://www.gtasanandreas.net/cheats/pc.php with some corrections: BMTPWHR is "Recruit Anyone (AK-47)", not "Country Vehicles and Peds, Get Born 2 Truck Outfit"; they are also missing the never hungry and mega-punch cheats as well as the disabled ones (obviously).

The list is in the same order as the hashes are in the exe (reverse byte order: 12345678 = 78 56 34 12 in the file). The cheats with no codes listed can't be activated without editing the game (see my previous post). * in the best known code means that I'm not convinced it's the intended one; ** certainly aren't, and the rancher cheat most likely doesn't have any intended code.

Code:

Hash       Short code Best known code      Effect                                    Previously known code    
DE4B237D   LXGIWYL    ThugsArmoury         Weapon Set 1, Thug's Tools                LXGIWYL                  
B22A28D1   64MQ6Z     ProfessionalsKit     Weapon Set 2, Professional Tools          PROFESSIONALSKIT         
5A783FAE   JQJIP3     NuttersToys          Weapon Set 3, Nutter Tools                UZUMYMW                  
EECCEA2B   HESOYAM    INeedSomeHelp        Health, Armor, $250k                      HESOYAM                  
42AF1E28   OSRBLHH    TurnUpTheHeat        Increase Wanted Level Two Stars           TURNUPTHEHEAT            
555FC201   ASNAEB     TurnDownTheHeat      Clear Wanted Level                        TURNDOWNTHEHEAT          
2A845345   AZTR1M     PleasantlyWarm       Sunny Weather                             PLEASANTLYWARM           
E1EF01EA   ICIKPYH    TooDamnHot           Very Sunny Weather                        TOODAMNHOT               
771B83FC   3PAAXUE    DullDullDay          Overcast Weather                          ALNSFMZO                 
5BF12848   OEQ3TKC    AllUsuallyBothered** Rainy Weather                             AUIFRVQS                 
44453A17   4RNCWV     TheDeludingRock**    Foggy Weather                             CFVFGMJ                  
FCFF1D08   YSOHNUL    TimeJustFliesBy      Faster Clock                              YSOHNUL                  
B69E8532   MDU7TJ     SpeedItUp            Faster Gameplay                           SPEEDITUP                
8B828076   LIYOAAY    SlowItDown           Slower Gameplay                           SLOWITDOWN               
DD6ED9E9   ZQ1MDAO    RoughNeighbourhood   Peds Attack Each Other, Get Golf Club     AJLOJYQY                 
A290FD8C   PWE6KO     StopPickingOnMe*     Have a bounty on your head                BAGOWPG                  
3484B5A7   FOOOXFT    OurEnthusedEnd*      Everyone is armed                         FOOOXFT                  
43DB914E   OBBU2HO    KansasOverhauls**    Spawn Rhino                               AIWPRTON                 
DBC0DD65   CQZIJMB    OldSpeedDemon        Spawn Bloodring Banger                    OLDSPEEDDEMON            
0          K5E65Q     ImaginationOfIowa*** Spawn Rancher                             JQNTDMH                  
D08A30FE   PDNEJOH    VRockPokey*          Spawn Racecar                             VROCKPOKEY               
37BF1B4E   YE9GJF     LovecraftConvoy**    Spawn Racecar                             VPJTQWV                  
B5D40866   PIQBF0S    WheresTheFuneral     Spawn Romero                              WHERESTHEFUNERAL         
E63B0D99   KRIJEBR    CelebrityStatus      Spawn Stretch                             CELEBRITYSTATUS          
675B8945   H8AUWR     TrueGrime            Spawn Trashmaster                         TRUEGRIME                
4987D5EE   RZHSUEW    18Holes              Spawn Caddy                               RZHSUEW                  
2E8F84E8   CPKTNWT    FileUnbitten**       Blow Up All Cars                          CPKTNWT                  
1A9AA3D6   XICWMD     WheelsOnlyPlease     Invisible car                             WHEELSONLYPLEASE         
E842F3BC   PGGOMOY    StickLikeGlue        Perfect Handling                          STICKLIKEGLUE            
0D5C6A4E   SZCMAWO    GoodByeCruelWorld    Suicide                                   GOODBYECRUELWORLD        
74D4FCB1   ZEIIVG     BlocksTheyRide*      All green lights                          ZEIIVG                   
B01D13B8   YLTEICZ    TearsObservedLater*  Aggressive Drivers                        YLTEICZ                  
66516EBC   RPWN3H     CuratorSpeciality*   Pink traffic                              LLQPFBN                  
4B137E45   LYQO19     SoLongAsItsBlack     Black traffic                             IOWDLAC                  
0                                          Drive on Water                            
78520E33   A03A9R     FlyingFish           Boats fly                                 FLYINGFISH               
3A577325   ZFDV1U     DickJustSaying*      Fat                                       BTCDBCB                  
D4966D59   UOETDAG    BuffMeUp             Max Muscle                                BUFFMEUP                 
5FD1B49D   KVGYZQK    LeanAndMean          Skinny                                    KVGYZQK                  
A7613F99   YAEZ4D     BlueSuedeShoes       Elvis is Everywhere                       BLUESUEDESHOES           
1792D871   OKETMF6    FaceChangingJourney* Peds Attack You With Weapons, Rocket LauncBGLUAWML                 
CBC579DF   CIKGCGX    LifesABeach          Beach Party                               LIFESABEACH              
4FEDCCFF   MROEMZH    OnlyHomiesAllowed    Gang Members Everywhere                   ONLYHOMIESALLOWED        
44B34866   FHYSTV     BetterStayIndoors    Gangs Control the Streets                 BIFBUZZ                  
2EF877DB   BBYQS4W    NinjaTown            Ninja Theme                               NINJATOWN                
2781E797   BEKKNQV    LoveConquersAll      Slut Magnet                               BEKKNQV                  
2BC1A045   RSMNAYX    EveryoneIsPoor       Traffic is Cheap Cars                     EVERYONEISPOOR           
B2AFE368   GB0DQH     EveryoneIsRich       Traffic is Fast Cars                      EVERYONEISRICH           
FA8DD45B   RIPAZHA    ChittyChittyBangBang Cars Fly                                  CHITTYCHITTYBANGBANG     
8DED75BD   6BTVH9     CJPhoneHome          Huge Bunny Hop                            CJPHONEHOME              
1A5526BC   JHDDT5     JumpJet              Spawn Hydra                               JUMPJET                  
A48A770B   TQQWSES    IWantToHover         Spawn Vortex Hovercraft                   KGGGDKP                  
B07D3B32   JY75BQ     LateSentDivision*    Smash n' Boom                             JCNRUAD                  
80C1E54B   COXEFGU    SpeedFreak           All Cars Have Nitro                       SPEEDFREAK               
5DAD0087   MQHJEZP    BubbleCars           Cars Float Away When Hit                  BUBBLECARS               
7F80B950   XJVSNAJ    NightProwler         Always Midnight                           NIGHTPROWLER             
6C0FA650   OFVIAC     FireGodsOutside*     Orange Sky 21:00                          OFVIAC                   
F46F2FA4   MGHXYRM    ScottishSummer       Thunderstorm                              SCOTTISHSUMMER           
70164385   EYKTSSO    SandInMyEars         Sandstorm                                 CWJXUOC                  
0                                          ?                                         
885D0B50   LFGMHAL    Kangaroo             Mega Jump                                 KANGAROO                 
151BDCB3   TA97RV     NewBluntConstantly*  Semi-Infinite Health                      BAGUVIX                  
ADFA640A   H6YBFT     ManFromAtlantis      Infinite Oxygen                           CVWKXAM                  
E57F96CE   OFW3APM    ThinkExecutedForm**  Have Parachute                            AIYPWZQP                 
040CF761   YECGAA     RocketMan            Have Jetpack                              ROCKETMAN                
E1B33EB9   AEZAKMI    IDoAsIPlease         Never Wanted                              AEZAKMI                  
FEDA77F7   LJSPQK     BringItOn            Six Star Wanted Level                     BRINGITON                
8CA870DD   IAVENJQ    StingLikeABee        Mega Punch                                CROOKOPERATED            
9A629401   AEDUWNV    IAmNeverHungry       Never Get Hungry                          TRANSITIONOFFSCREEN      
F53EF5A5   WSLK3P     StateOfEmergency     Riot Mode                                 STATEOFEMERGENCY         
F2AA0C1D   PRIEBJ     CrazyTown            Funhouse Theme                            CRAZYTOWN                
F36345A8   MUNASEF    ANoseOnGlass*        Adrenaline Mode                           ANOSEONGLASS             
8990D5E1   WANRLTW    FullClip             Infinite Ammo, No Reload                  FULLCLIP                 
B7013B1B   OUIQDMW    OtherGangsCourses    Free Aim While Driving                    OUIQDMW                  
CAEC94EE   THGLOJ     GhostTown            Reduced Traffic                           GHOSTTOWN                
31F0C3CC   OZEXJCE    HicksVille           Traffic is Country Vehicles               FVTMNBZ                  
B3B3E72A   SJMAHPE    YesYanksCould*       Recruit Anyone (9mm)                      SJMAHPE                  
C25CDBFF   JKUK1M     UsefulEthicHook**    Recruit Anyone (AK-47)                    BMTPWHR                  
D5CF4EFF   MCXS7X     RocketMayhem         Recruit Anyone (Rockets)                  ROCKETMAYHEM             
680416B1   OGXSDAG    WorshipMe            Max Respect                               WORSHIPME                
CF5FDA18   MCR40H     HelloLadies          Max Sex Appeal                            HELLOLADIES              
F01286E9   YYZ0C2     ICanGoAllNight       Max Stamina                               VKYPQCF                  
A841CC0A   QUEWSOD    ProfessionalKiller   Hitman In All Weapon Stats                PROFESSIONALKILLER       
31EA09CF   VQIMAHA    NaturalTalent        Max All Vehicle Skill Stats               NATURALTALENT            
E958788A   OHDUDE     OhDude               Spawn Hunter                              OHDUDE                   
02C83A7C   NAV74K     FourWheelFun         Spawn Quad                                FOURWHEELFUN             
E49C3ED4   HC2GPIN    TakesFlipsBest*      Spawn Tanker Truck                        AMOMHRER                 
171BA8CC   EEGCYXT    ItsAllBull           Spawn Dozer                               ITSALLBULL               
86988DAE   URKQSRK    FlyingToStunt        Spawn Stunt Plane                         FLYINGTOSTUNT
2BDD2FA1   M3TOA5     MonsterMash          Spawn Monster                             MONSTERMASH              
0                                          Hookers Pay You                           
0                                          Taxis Have Nitro And Jump

New likely intended codes I've found since my last post:

BetterStayIndoors = BIFBUZZ = Gangs Control the Streets
DullDullDay = ALNSFMZO = Overcast Weather
IAmNeverHungry = TransitionOffScreen = Never Get Hungry
ICanGoAllNight = VKYPQCF = Max Stamina
IDoAsIPlease = AEZAKMI = Never Wanted
INeedSomeHelp = HESOYAM = Health, Armor, $250k
IWantToHover = KGGGDKP = Spawn Vortex Hovercraft
LoveConquersAll = BEKKNQV = Slut Magnet
OtherGangsCourses = OUIQDMW = Free Aim While Driving
SandInMyEars = CWJXUOC = Sandstorm
StingLikeABee = CrookOperated = Mega Punch
TimeJustFliesBy = YSOHNUL = Faster Clock

An interesting one is StopPickingOnMe = BAGOWPG = Have a bounty on your head. It's a nice phrase, but the effect is exactly the opposite. Could be intended.

^ RIPAZHA. Hidden below is my current list of all cheats: effects, hashes, shortest codes (A-Z0-9), most likely intended codes.

[hidden]The descriptions and previously known codes are from [url]http://www.gtasanandreas.net/cheats/pc.php[/url] with some corrections: BMTPWHR is "Recruit Anyone (AK-47)", not "Country Vehicles and Peds, Get Born 2 Truck Outfit"; they are also missing the never hungry and mega-punch cheats as well as the disabled ones (obviously).

The list is in the same order as the hashes are in the exe (reverse byte order: 12345678 = 78 56 34 12 in the file). The cheats with no codes listed can't be activated without editing the game (see my previous post). * in the best known code means that I'm not convinced it's the intended one; ** certainly aren't, and the rancher cheat most likely doesn't have any intended code.

[code]Hash       Short code Best known code      Effect                                    Previously known code    
DE4B237D   LXGIWYL    ThugsArmoury         Weapon Set 1, Thug's Tools                LXGIWYL                  
B22A28D1   64MQ6Z     ProfessionalsKit     Weapon Set 2, Professional Tools          PROFESSIONALSKIT         
5A783FAE   JQJIP3     NuttersToys          Weapon Set 3, Nutter Tools                UZUMYMW                  
EECCEA2B   HESOYAM    INeedSomeHelp        Health, Armor, $250k                      HESOYAM                  
42AF1E28   OSRBLHH    TurnUpTheHeat        Increase Wanted Level Two Stars           TURNUPTHEHEAT            
555FC201   ASNAEB     TurnDownTheHeat      Clear Wanted Level                        TURNDOWNTHEHEAT          
2A845345   AZTR1M     PleasantlyWarm       Sunny Weather                             PLEASANTLYWARM           
E1EF01EA   ICIKPYH    TooDamnHot           Very Sunny Weather                        TOODAMNHOT               
771B83FC   3PAAXUE    DullDullDay          Overcast Weather                          ALNSFMZO                 
5BF12848   OEQ3TKC    AllUsuallyBothered** Rainy Weather                             AUIFRVQS                 
44453A17   4RNCWV     TheDeludingRock**    Foggy Weather                             CFVFGMJ                  
FCFF1D08   YSOHNUL    TimeJustFliesBy      Faster Clock                              YSOHNUL                  
B69E8532   MDU7TJ     SpeedItUp            Faster Gameplay                           SPEEDITUP                
8B828076   LIYOAAY    SlowItDown           Slower Gameplay                           SLOWITDOWN               
DD6ED9E9   ZQ1MDAO    RoughNeighbourhood   Peds Attack Each Other, Get Golf Club     AJLOJYQY                 
A290FD8C   PWE6KO     StopPickingOnMe*     Have a bounty on your head                BAGOWPG                  
3484B5A7   FOOOXFT    OurEnthusedEnd*      Everyone is armed                         FOOOXFT                  
43DB914E   OBBU2HO    KansasOverhauls**    Spawn Rhino                               AIWPRTON                 
DBC0DD65   CQZIJMB    OldSpeedDemon        Spawn Bloodring Banger                    OLDSPEEDDEMON            
0          K5E65Q     ImaginationOfIowa*** Spawn Rancher                             JQNTDMH                  
D08A30FE   PDNEJOH    VRockPokey*          Spawn Racecar                             VROCKPOKEY               
37BF1B4E   YE9GJF     LovecraftConvoy**    Spawn Racecar                             VPJTQWV                  
B5D40866   PIQBF0S    WheresTheFuneral     Spawn Romero                              WHERESTHEFUNERAL         
E63B0D99   KRIJEBR    CelebrityStatus      Spawn Stretch                             CELEBRITYSTATUS          
675B8945   H8AUWR     TrueGrime            Spawn Trashmaster                         TRUEGRIME                
4987D5EE   RZHSUEW    18Holes              Spawn Caddy                               RZHSUEW                  
2E8F84E8   CPKTNWT    FileUnbitten**       Blow Up All Cars                          CPKTNWT                  
1A9AA3D6   XICWMD     WheelsOnlyPlease     Invisible car                             WHEELSONLYPLEASE         
E842F3BC   PGGOMOY    StickLikeGlue        Perfect Handling                          STICKLIKEGLUE            
0D5C6A4E   SZCMAWO    GoodByeCruelWorld    Suicide                                   GOODBYECRUELWORLD        
74D4FCB1   ZEIIVG     BlocksTheyRide*      All green lights                          ZEIIVG                   
B01D13B8   YLTEICZ    TearsObservedLater*  Aggressive Drivers                        YLTEICZ                  
66516EBC   RPWN3H     CuratorSpeciality*   Pink traffic                              LLQPFBN                  
4B137E45   LYQO19     SoLongAsItsBlack     Black traffic                             IOWDLAC                  
0                                          Drive on Water                            
78520E33   A03A9R     FlyingFish           Boats fly                                 FLYINGFISH               
3A577325   ZFDV1U     DickJustSaying*      Fat                                       BTCDBCB                  
D4966D59   UOETDAG    BuffMeUp             Max Muscle                                BUFFMEUP                 
5FD1B49D   KVGYZQK    LeanAndMean          Skinny                                    KVGYZQK                  
A7613F99   YAEZ4D     BlueSuedeShoes       Elvis is Everywhere                       BLUESUEDESHOES           
1792D871   OKETMF6    FaceChangingJourney* Peds Attack You With Weapons, Rocket LauncBGLUAWML                 
CBC579DF   CIKGCGX    LifesABeach          Beach Party                               LIFESABEACH              
4FEDCCFF   MROEMZH    OnlyHomiesAllowed    Gang Members Everywhere                   ONLYHOMIESALLOWED        
44B34866   FHYSTV     BetterStayIndoors    Gangs Control the Streets                 BIFBUZZ                  
2EF877DB   BBYQS4W    NinjaTown            Ninja Theme                               NINJATOWN                
2781E797   BEKKNQV    LoveConquersAll      Slut Magnet                               BEKKNQV                  
2BC1A045   RSMNAYX    EveryoneIsPoor       Traffic is Cheap Cars                     EVERYONEISPOOR           
B2AFE368   GB0DQH     EveryoneIsRich       Traffic is Fast Cars                      EVERYONEISRICH           
FA8DD45B   RIPAZHA    ChittyChittyBangBang Cars Fly                                  CHITTYCHITTYBANGBANG     
8DED75BD   6BTVH9     CJPhoneHome          Huge Bunny Hop                            CJPHONEHOME              
1A5526BC   JHDDT5     JumpJet              Spawn Hydra                               JUMPJET                  
A48A770B   TQQWSES    IWantToHover         Spawn Vortex Hovercraft                   KGGGDKP                  
B07D3B32   JY75BQ     LateSentDivision*    Smash n' Boom                             JCNRUAD                  
80C1E54B   COXEFGU    SpeedFreak           All Cars Have Nitro                       SPEEDFREAK               
5DAD0087   MQHJEZP    BubbleCars           Cars Float Away When Hit                  BUBBLECARS               
7F80B950   XJVSNAJ    NightProwler         Always Midnight                           NIGHTPROWLER             
6C0FA650   OFVIAC     FireGodsOutside*     Orange Sky 21:00                          OFVIAC                   
F46F2FA4   MGHXYRM    ScottishSummer       Thunderstorm                              SCOTTISHSUMMER           
70164385   EYKTSSO    SandInMyEars         Sandstorm                                 CWJXUOC                  
0                                          ?                                         
885D0B50   LFGMHAL    Kangaroo             Mega Jump                                 KANGAROO                 
151BDCB3   TA97RV     NewBluntConstantly*  Semi-Infinite Health                      BAGUVIX                  
ADFA640A   H6YBFT     ManFromAtlantis      Infinite Oxygen                           CVWKXAM                  
E57F96CE   OFW3APM    ThinkExecutedForm**  Have Parachute                            AIYPWZQP                 
040CF761   YECGAA     RocketMan            Have Jetpack                              ROCKETMAN                
E1B33EB9   AEZAKMI    IDoAsIPlease         Never Wanted                              AEZAKMI                  
FEDA77F7   LJSPQK     BringItOn            Six Star Wanted Level                     BRINGITON                
8CA870DD   IAVENJQ    StingLikeABee        Mega Punch                                CROOKOPERATED            
9A629401   AEDUWNV    IAmNeverHungry       Never Get Hungry                          TRANSITIONOFFSCREEN      
F53EF5A5   WSLK3P     StateOfEmergency     Riot Mode                                 STATEOFEMERGENCY         
F2AA0C1D   PRIEBJ     CrazyTown            Funhouse Theme                            CRAZYTOWN                
F36345A8   MUNASEF    ANoseOnGlass*        Adrenaline Mode                           ANOSEONGLASS             
8990D5E1   WANRLTW    FullClip             Infinite Ammo, No Reload                  FULLCLIP                 
B7013B1B   OUIQDMW    OtherGangsCourses    Free Aim While Driving                    OUIQDMW                  
CAEC94EE   THGLOJ     GhostTown            Reduced Traffic                           GHOSTTOWN                
31F0C3CC   OZEXJCE    HicksVille           Traffic is Country Vehicles               FVTMNBZ                  
B3B3E72A   SJMAHPE    YesYanksCould*       Recruit Anyone (9mm)                      SJMAHPE                  
C25CDBFF   JKUK1M     UsefulEthicHook**    Recruit Anyone (AK-47)                    BMTPWHR                  
D5CF4EFF   MCXS7X     RocketMayhem         Recruit Anyone (Rockets)                  ROCKETMAYHEM             
680416B1   OGXSDAG    WorshipMe            Max Respect                               WORSHIPME                
CF5FDA18   MCR40H     HelloLadies          Max Sex Appeal                            HELLOLADIES              
F01286E9   YYZ0C2     ICanGoAllNight       Max Stamina                               VKYPQCF                  
A841CC0A   QUEWSOD    ProfessionalKiller   Hitman In All Weapon Stats                PROFESSIONALKILLER       
31EA09CF   VQIMAHA    NaturalTalent        Max All Vehicle Skill Stats               NATURALTALENT            
E958788A   OHDUDE     OhDude               Spawn Hunter                              OHDUDE                   
02C83A7C   NAV74K     FourWheelFun         Spawn Quad                                FOURWHEELFUN             
E49C3ED4   HC2GPIN    TakesFlipsBest*      Spawn Tanker Truck                        AMOMHRER                 
171BA8CC   EEGCYXT    ItsAllBull           Spawn Dozer                               ITSALLBULL               
86988DAE   URKQSRK    FlyingToStunt        Spawn Stunt Plane                         FLYINGTOSTUNT
2BDD2FA1   M3TOA5     MonsterMash          Spawn Monster                             MONSTERMASH              
0                                          Hookers Pay You                           
0                                          Taxis Have Nitro And Jump[/code]

New likely intended codes I've found since my last post:

BetterStayIndoors = BIFBUZZ = Gangs Control the Streets
DullDullDay = ALNSFMZO = Overcast Weather
IAmNeverHungry = TransitionOffScreen = Never Get Hungry
ICanGoAllNight = VKYPQCF = Max Stamina
IDoAsIPlease = AEZAKMI = Never Wanted
INeedSomeHelp = HESOYAM = Health, Armor, $250k
IWantToHover = KGGGDKP = Spawn Vortex Hovercraft
LoveConquersAll = BEKKNQV = Slut Magnet
OtherGangsCourses = OUIQDMW = Free Aim While Driving
SandInMyEars = CWJXUOC = Sandstorm
StingLikeABee = CrookOperated = Mega Punch
TimeJustFliesBy = YSOHNUL = Faster Clock

An interesting one is StopPickingOnMe = BAGOWPG = Have a bounty on your head. It's a nice phrase, but the effect is exactly the opposite. Could be intended.[/hidden]

S.

2014-06-09 11:32:11 am

Quote:

- You fire from the beach, and it is almost a straight diagonal line to the bridge to badlands.

Isn't a straight line from the north of the pier shorter than a diagonal line for the middle of the pier a la basic Pythagoras maths? Also the diagonal would be on sand slowing you down even more. It also doesn't seem like you'd be killing them any quicker like this compared to the current sniper strats. Would like to see a comparison video.

bubbleb0bbler

2014-06-12 05:01:01 pm

I had the same issues with the strat - I'm unsure how the sand-slow affects things if by much at all (but it's definitely something to look at)

Tuplanolla

2014-06-13 05:39:15 pm

The reporter is pretty hard to spook. I blow his door up, I bump into him, I threaten him with a shotgun, I take a picture of him, I get shot near him, I jump onto him, I attach explosives to his car, I shoot rockets at his car, I shoot a woman outside his car, I do a drive by near his car, I crash into his car and I kill his friend with a rocket, but he remains calm.

Snail Trail Mission

I wanted to demonstrate one more quirk, but ran out of the time.

Tirean

2014-06-14 02:09:46 pm

Woah that taxi is damn hard to spook x.x I miss the helicopter Sad

iksio

2014-06-20 08:27:42 am

Dunno if in SA you can unlock vehicles by taking their doors off with a chainsaw, but if yes then there is one near a pile of coal south-east of pizza parlor that could be taken with a little detour during Ryder or maybe even Drive-thru. If this worked homie RNG would be solved.

There is also an grenade pickup east of pizza parlor, on the motel stairs but I'm pretty sure that was mentioned already

Joshimuz

Edit history:

Joshimuz: 2014-06-20 08:55:29 am

2014-06-20 08:55:16 am

Quote from iksio:

Dunno if in SA you can unlock vehicles by taking their doors off with a chainsaw

It doesn't work I'm afraid, locked doors never come off, otherwise you could just punch the door off too Cheesy

bubbleb0bbler

2014-07-02 10:28:28 am

2 things that could be interesting if someone could look into them

1) when does jeffrey have 'invincibility frames' and when doesn't he during 'OG Loc'?
2) how can you stop the bike from despawning? if you manage to kill him can you take his bike?

I've tried killing jeffrey without blowing up his bike (he is armoured I think) and it despawned though maybe there's more to it than that. I also tried getting into a car after setting his bike on fire, and both the bike and car despawned

S.

2014-07-03 08:09:30 am

You sure they are despawning rather than just moved to that park where you're supposed to kill Freddy?

any

2014-07-03 11:55:15 am

Both bikes also despawn if you play the mission as intended afaik.
I have tried everything I can come up with for this mission but have gotten no results.

Do anyone know if there's any kind of savestate mod for san an? That would have been a big help for testing.