When you started to run games...

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Time: 2010-12-11 06:54:10 pm

2010-12-11 06:39:41 pm

When you had started getting into speedrunning, what are some of the things you wish you were told from the get go, or that are still unclear?

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Pootrain

2010-12-11 06:48:29 pm

train kept rollin

No matter how much you think you know a game. You notice how many mistakes you actually make when you reset for every little thing. Be ready to reset and try again and again and again and again.

and again.

ZenicReverie

2010-12-11 06:52:35 pm

Waiting hurts my soul...

Some things you'll just need to learn from experience, but once you've finished a run or two, you'll realize how bad they are when looking back on them. Don't let it get you down, and expect to continuously improve.

Raiker Z

2010-12-11 08:10:43 pm

I just wish I knew more about recording/editing, I started not to long ago, and I'm pathetically incompetent with some things.

cyghfer

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cyghfer: 2010-12-11 08:11:46 pm

2010-12-11 08:11:07 pm

that seemingly easy games will almost invariably make for very difficult runs anyway

tjp7154

2010-12-11 08:29:33 pm

#Casual

That speedrunning takes a LOOOOT of your time to do.

Manocheese

2010-12-11 08:34:07 pm

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

I underestimated the amount of time it would take to make a good speed run. I've noticed that many new runners make the same mistake.

DK28

2010-12-11 09:35:10 pm

General Kong - Bullets and Bananas

The sheer level of quality you should go for. Almost every run I've done and thought was great, I could ultimately crush if I just keep going... and going and going. A run can truly always be improved.

neskamikaze

2010-12-11 10:01:06 pm

How to keep calm, not get frustrated at getting unlucky, and pace yourself. It's going to take a long time and you don't want to get burnt out.

I have no name

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I have no name: 2010-12-12 12:54:59 am

2010-12-12 12:41:04 am

Obscure games ftw

That the game is always more complex than it first appears.

Quote from cyghfer:

that seemingly easy games will almost invariably make for very difficult runs anyway

and that difficult games make can make for easy runs once you are good at the game

grndino

2010-12-12 12:45:00 am

Test runs are never a waste of time.

flicky

2010-12-12 06:41:40 am

$15 per rant/allegory

Pick a speed run to be improved or one with active discussion. Speedrunning a game almost alone, or being the first and generating strategies, is horribly difficult and hard to stay motivated for despite the sense of achievement for knowing basically the whole run is of your design.

Warepire

2010-12-12 07:08:35 am

Heavy Metal Powered

You cannot do it alone, you always need at least one other person to discuss your ideas with.

cyghfer

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cyghfer: 2010-12-12 08:36:46 am

2010-12-12 08:30:20 am

disagree with the above two posts, i guess unless you're tackling some huge game with a lot of glitch potential or complex route management, etc. the only game i've ever designed the route for from scratch i had a lot of fun doing so, but it's a pretty simple game all in all.

neskamikaze

2010-12-12 08:49:54 am

With what your saying, I'd say to make the route yourself, and then post it up to see if anyone has any suggestions of changes to be made. I wish someone would have caught my glaring THPS2 route error.

Zyre

2010-12-12 09:18:02 am

The Speedrunning Teacher

Play test through the entire game multiple times before you consider recording. Sometimes what you do at the start affects how the end plays out (this is especially true in longer and/or segmented games).

Rakuen

2010-12-12 09:39:48 am

Weegee Time

Quote from Zyre:

Play test through the entire game multiple times before you consider recording. Sometimes what you do at the start affects how the end plays out (this is especially true in longer and/or segmented games).

This, very much so. Shoot, the entire FF5 run relies on learning things as the game goes on that you'll eventually use against the final bosses. And one time, I forgot to learn Hide...

DK28

2010-12-12 11:18:36 am

General Kong - Bullets and Bananas

Always record your playing, always.

Time

2010-12-12 01:25:31 pm

Quote from DK28:

Always record your playing, always.

Yeah. I wish I had followed this advice a few months ago. =\

ZenicReverie

2010-12-12 09:28:35 pm

Waiting hurts my soul...

Quote from Time:

Quote from DK28:

Always record your playing, always.

Yeah. I wish I had followed this advice a few months ago. =\

Yeah, at the very least, it gives you something to watch when you don't feel quite like playing; you'll be seeing where you can improve on the run at least.

Hariyama465

2010-12-12 11:06:00 pm

I completely agree, beating the game multiple times over until you're familiar with it is a must.

I would say, no matter how much you think you've found every single strategy in a game, always be open to trying to find new strats. Sometimes, you realize new strats for a game when you least expect it.

Also, never give up. Even if it takes a long time, feel free to take a break once in a while, otherwise you'll burn yourself out. Speedrunning is as much about rest and recuperation as it is about the actual process of running.

Taija

2010-12-13 03:30:16 am

Quote from CaptainYama:

Also, never give up. Even if it takes a long time, feel free to take a break once in a while, otherwise you'll burn yourself out. Speedrunning is as much about rest and recuperation as it is about the actual process of running.

This. When I get into something, I really get into it, to the point of obsession. I can play the same game over and over again for 9 hours a day, but I get burnt out in a few weeks and then lose interest. I need to learn to pace myself and only play an hour or two a day. Patience, patience, where art thou?

Some people here have spent several years on a single run - all I can do is tip my hat to them.

Trekhaak

2010-12-13 09:05:15 am

Everybody's favorite monster

That you dont speedrun speedrunning

Smigul

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Smigul: 2010-12-25 09:17:04 am

2010-12-25 09:16:36 am

I think that every time you think your run is perfect it ISN'T because you forget 1 or 2 tricks and tactics,or you just want to beat your run again and again and again