Warcraft 3 TFT / RoC

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Artur1: 2011-11-11 12:05:39 am

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Artur1: 2011-11-11 12:04:35 am

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Artur1: 2011-11-10 10:37:35 am

2011-11-10 10:36:17 am

Chapter 3 plan:

Required unholy aura lvl2.
Also you can buy a wand of negation for dispelling slow.

Be careful:

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2011-11-10 11:17:49 am

Great job Artur ! *.*

ExplodingCabbage

2011-11-10 12:04:19 pm

Did you resolve the question of how with the third paladin in Chapter 2 to your satisfaction? I can't really remember and don't feel like trawling through the videos to check. Anyway, if not, it may (or may not) be useful to you to know the following detail about how the scripting of the three footmen who come to aid him works: when he is first attacked, all units in a region near the barracks are given an attack-move order to the Paladin's position. Then the trigger that does this is deactivated.

Of course, without having looked at the full AI file for the level, this script doesn't tell the full story, but it suggests a couple of ideas that might be worth trying, like somehow luring the footmen out of their region before attacking the paladin so they aren't affected by the trigger, or sending a unit ahead to kite the paladin somewhere slightly out-of-the-way and then attack him, firing the trigger and sending the footmen to wherever you first attacked the pally.

2011-11-10 01:04:14 pm

That is some great work indeed Artur! It seems like you much more succesfully than me managed to lure the blue army away. There is hardly any planning work left for that level now.

The strat for the third paladin in chapter 2 was that I was going to kill him last and then not worry too much about getting the attention of a few of his footmen. It might be worth checking out if I can lure a few away. But as far as I remember, the 3 footmen at his side wasnt really the problem in the first place. Instead it was some of the other troops that were hanging around. In either case it isn't really that big of a deal if I have to fight him while a few footmen are around.

Archanfel

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Archanfel: 2012-05-22 05:04:26 pm

2011-11-10 02:43:25 pm

Go ahead! After tremendous 2-4 chapters, №5 is seems a true sandbox, but i try to put my 'two cents' in it.

Logic: If Sylvanas dies faster, she will send the Runners faster, therefore gargoyles be given faster. In-game timer says that she die at 0:35.

P.S. May be somehow possible conquering Sunwell without/before gargoyles even more quickly, but it is really-really hard.

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Artur1: 2011-11-11 09:05:37 pm

2011-11-11 12:33:31 pm

Chapter 5 plan:

3:10 is possible.

Archanfel

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Archanfel: 2011-11-12 06:04:39 am

2011-11-11 02:25:33 pm

Quote from Artur1:

3:10 is possible.

My best with gargoyles was 3:53. I surrender.

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Liderharen: 2011-11-14 12:07:20 pm

2011-11-14 12:05:54 pm

The plan for tomorrow's streaming session is going to be practicing chapter 2, so it will probably be a bit different compared to what the last few sessions has been. The reason why I want to practice chapter 2 instead of doing run planning is that the planning seems rather 'done' for the next few chapters and I really wanna start getting the chapters out of the way before i focus too much on new ones.

Therefore I probably wont be commentating as much tomorrow and I probably wont be paying as close attention to the chat as I used to.

Precisely what im going to practice in chapter 2 will be mostly the Uther part. Given what we learned last time about when Uther triggers his 'surround', I think it might be possible to experiment with other, more easily created 'deathtraps' for him. Maybe the straight tunnel is worth experimenting with again. In any case, the goal is to find a technique and practice it to the point where I am certain I can (with an acceptable error rate) perform it in an actual run.

I dunno if that will be as entertaining to watch, but we'll see Smiley

The plan for tomorrow's streaming session is going to be practicing chapter 2, so it will probably be a bit different compared to what the last few sessions has been. The reason why I want to practice chapter 2 instead of doing run planning is that the planning seems rather 'done' for the next few chapters and I really wanna start getting the chapters out of the way before i focus too much on new ones.

Therefore I probably wont be commentating as much tomorrow and I probably wont be paying as close attention to the chat as I used to.

Precisely what im going to practice in chapter 2 will be mostly the Uther part. Given what we learned last time about when Uther triggers his 'surround', I think it might be possible to experiment with other, more easily created 'deathtraps' for him. Maybe the straight tunnel is worth experimenting with again. In any case, the goal is to find a technique and practice it to the point where I am certain I can (with an acceptable error rate) perform it in an actual run.

I dunno if that will be as entertaining to watch, but we'll see :)

2011-11-15 06:20:23 am

Do you skill unholy aura at level 3 ? Since Artur said it is required for chapter 3 Tongue

I guess the additional speed and regeneration buff can make the difference.

2011-11-15 10:41:44 am

I wouldnt choose the skill before chapter 3 anyways. I find it hard to believe that coil wouldnt be prefared over aura though, I would assume that killing stuff would be so much faster with coil lvl 2 compared to the speed you gain from moving with aura lvl 2.

2011-11-15 02:10:32 pm

Streaming session vod: http://da.twitch.tv/warcraftspeedruns/b/300093584

If you guys want me to stream similiar practice sessions perhaps this weekend let me know, otherwise ill just practice on my own.

Also, if you have any ideas about the uther part im all ears! It still seems very very difficult to pull off.

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Artur1: 2011-11-16 07:35:36 am

2011-11-16 03:42:42 am

Quote from MrKrautsaftnudel:

Nice, but when do you built the ziggurats?

I didn't. But you can do it anytime.

2011-11-16 04:05:29 am

Nice, but when do you built the ziggurats?

2011-11-17 09:26:00 am

Quote from Liderharen:

Streaming session vod: http://da.twitch.tv/warcraftspeedruns/b/300093584

If you guys want me to stream similiar practice sessions perhaps this weekend let me know, otherwise ill just practice on my own.

Also, if you have any ideas about the uther part im all ears! It still seems very very difficult to pull off.

Well, I'd like to see more streaming Tongue

2011-11-21 09:08:47 am

Eureka!

2011-11-22 02:26:37 pm

VODs for todays streaming session: http://da.twitch.tv/warcraftspeedruns/b/300684826

I tried Artur1's new trick and it works wonderful. It is a lot easier than the old method and it even seems like it is just as fast.

Making it to Uther without losing any ghouls though seems kinda hard. I am definitely getting close to being to able to run it for real.

2011-11-23 02:03:34 am

What about this method?

2011-11-23 04:11:09 am

I knew I was forgetting something. I would definitely have to test it...

P.Ommes

2011-11-24 05:38:36 am

again very enjoyable VODs Smiley

unfortunately i haven't got the time to watch your stream live. I hope this level will be done soon, so we can see another. God, i hate uther so much until now Cheesy

2011-11-29 02:03:40 pm

Todays VOD: http://da.twitch.tv/warcraftspeedruns/b/301278293

Im practicing Artur1's style! It seems to be faster than what im doing now. Just very hard to execute :S

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Artur1: 2011-12-03 11:50:50 am

Artur1: 2011-12-03 11:49:21 am

2011-12-03 11:48:55 am

This chapter kills me! I have new idea. Tongue

2011-12-03 12:29:25 pm

Show us!

2011-12-04 07:20:15 am

xD

Just as a think im finally getting settled on a strategy Artur1 screws everything up Tongue

Let me know as soon as figure out if your ideas work out. I wouldn't wanna waste time practicing something that ends up being useless.