Valdis Story: Abyssal City

2014-02-05 02:56:15 pm

Oh, right, KB is just Knowledge Base:

https://kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Main_Page

I believe login is just tied to having an sda account (or at least I didn't have to log in anywhere).

Just a wiki on the SDA server. Its criminally under-utilized; ideally its a place to compile all the knowledge about the games that aren't quite big enough to have a dedicated site of their own (ala zeldaspeedruns), but very few people actually take the time to fill it out unfortunately.

DraikTempest

2014-04-14 11:10:11 pm

Is this topic dead? I just started picking this game up (still doing casual runs) but it looks like it'd be a blast to speed run. I'll look at the videos when I finish a couple normal playthroughs. I looked over the pastebin notes on page 1 but they kind of didn't make sense to me. Probably lack of familiarity with the game.

Onin

2014-04-15 05:51:51 am

It's kinda died off after they patched all the useful glitches.

DraikTempest

2014-04-16 01:11:25 am

Didn't someone earlier in the thread provide a link to an original version? Also, still seems like it'd be pretty fast even without the glitches.

SMK

2014-04-16 07:47:25 am

Quote from DraikTempest:

Didn't someone earlier in the thread provide a link to an original version?

Well 'original' being the last version where decoy warp worked, but yeah, one page back. It works fine, my only gripe is that this particular version pre-dates rebinding the skill cancel. I think the bigger issue is that the game is still technically 'in development' (despite being fully released), since they are planning on adding addition characters, and the changes between versions tend to be fairly drastic.

In any case, I'm still interested as well, the topic's only dead if nobody's left who's interested. For my part, I haven't had much of a chance to run in the last while (hoping to change that soon), but I'm still fairly sure there's some unexplored potential to running this game, even if its not as major as decoy skip.

Retro

2014-04-20 06:16:59 pm

Im interested in this game. Looks very fun to speedrun but i am yet to even purchase the game at all yet. I will do so soon, play through casually, and then possibly start running it.

T_Caramel

2014-04-21 05:07:30 am

Speedrun on this game is not dead Smiley

I'm still working on a sub 20 run ! The current record is owned by Etril : http://www.twitch.tv/etril_/c/4054497 it's 21:33

T_Caramel

2014-05-21 10:59:52 am

New record on the game, 17:09 by Etril_ http://www.twitch.tv/etril_/c/4277975

T_Caramel

Edit history:

T_Caramel: 2014-07-09 02:04:58 pm

2014-07-09 11:38:11 am

I generated a new link for the Valdis Story downgrade, feel free to contact me if you want to run any%.

T_Caramel

2014-07-09 02:07:11 pm

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T_Caramel

2014-07-09 02:07:48 pm

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Gradow

2014-09-10 11:10:16 am

Hi, I'm Gradow and I've just recently started running this game. I've been doing some practice on Etril_'s route and found a way to get directly from the Mines in Hrukk to the Ancient Mausoleum in Tagrum, objectively skipping having to go all the way back through the Western Skyway and Tagrum Derelicts. Here's a video of me doing the skip:

As you can see, there doesn't appear to be any visible difference between the two warps, but doing frame-by-frame comparisons this is what I got:

Success: http://puu.sh/btuvE/824ce258ac.jpeg X Fail: http://puu.sh/btuwa/86062bd3a3.jpeg

So it seems to be frame perfect, which sucks for consistency sake.
I've already showed this to T_Caramel on twitter and I hope to have helped other runners aswell.

Adarax

2014-10-01 06:03:53 am

Hey, I used to do few Reina runs of this game back when it was first released and had 1.0.0.20 version of the game set to not update on steam. Sadly since then my old computer died and I downloaded the game again but of course it is the 22 version now. I tried using the downgrade files provided in this thread but they make the game run at 1/4 speed and completely destroy it otherwise too, this is supposed to be Frozen Crypts savestatue: http://gyazo.com/d4de446c388acf075d3507b6c581ca53

I was wondering if anyone else has had these kind of issues. If its not fixable, I will probably just run glitchless or similar on 22 once I reach my goal in another game I speedrun.

T_Caramel

2014-10-16 09:22:58 am

It's the first time I hear about such problems, I really don't know how to fix it sorry !

Bornaparte

Edit history:

Bornaparte: 2014-10-22 11:32:26 am

2014-10-21 10:08:12 pm

so its been a while but im back to speedrunnning this game i found that reana can quick kill the first boss using focus mode and finisher to stun him when he tries to move back to the center, also used aerial heavy attacks to cancel his jumps.

Bornaparte

Edit history:

Bornaparte: 2014-10-22 01:10:19 am

2014-10-22 12:42:17 am

also caramel what is the safe strat for magus skip i have been trying to figure it out but cant get it

EDIT: i found a different safe strat works for me if i use aegis to get close to the exit and use the out of mana backward bounce to enter the transition is really consistent, use up magic to drain mana reall quickly once in possition

T_Caramel

2014-10-24 07:05:50 am

Hi Bornaparte ! Welcome back Smiley

the strat I use for Magus skip is a bit better than being out of mana : just use up divine magis right before you step into the room, using momentum to enter the room.

Bornaparte

2014-10-25 12:36:27 am

im also have trouble getting consistent decoy warps is there any way you can help describe the timing of the jump for me, im pretty sure im jumping to early most of the time.

T_Caramel

2014-10-25 07:45:07 am

Each decoy has its own timing, it depends on your computer. Usually, the better your computer is the easier you can warp. There are some very easy decoy warps though, like the one in the sewers where you can just jump super early and it always works.

Lyonpack

2014-11-30 05:33:37 am

Quote from Gradow:

Hi, I'm Gradow and I've just recently started running this game. I've been doing some practice on Etril_'s route and found a way to get directly from the Mines in Hrukk to the Ancient Mausoleum in Tagrum, objectively skipping having to go all the way back through the Western Skyway and Tagrum Derelicts. Here's a video of me doing the skip:

As you can see, there doesn't appear to be any visible difference between the two warps, but doing frame-by-frame comparisons this is what I got:

Success: http://puu.sh/btuvE/824ce258ac.jpeg X Fail: http://puu.sh/btuwa/86062bd3a3.jpeg

So it seems to be frame perfect, which sucks for consistency sake.
I've already showed this to T_Caramel on twitter and I hope to have helped other runners aswell.

There is something similar to this in the Mines. After getting the Demon Key when running back, i seem to fall through the floor/ and get stuck in walls quite often. ill have to try this out and see if i can get this down. Good find!

Also im not sure this will help. But i know T_Caramel posted a bunch of magus skip videos. You can also do that with out having any mana. Even tho using a Decoy Skip is faster.

[quote="Gradow"]Hi, I'm Gradow and I've just recently started running this game. I've been doing some practice on Etril_'s route and found a way to get directly from the Mines in Hrukk to the Ancient Mausoleum in Tagrum, objectively skipping having to go all the way back through the Western Skyway and Tagrum Derelicts. Here's a video of me doing the skip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pPsI9JTlQs

As you can see, there doesn't appear to be any visible difference between the two warps, but doing frame-by-frame comparisons this is what I got:

Success: http://puu.sh/btuvE/824ce258ac.jpeg X Fail: http://puu.sh/btuwa/86062bd3a3.jpeg

So it seems to be frame perfect, which sucks for consistency sake.
I've already showed this to T_Caramel on twitter and I hope to have helped other runners aswell.[/quote]

There is something similar to this in the Mines. After getting the Demon Key when running back, i seem to fall through the floor/ and get stuck in walls quite often. ill have to try this out and see if i can get this down. Good find!

Also im not sure this will help. But i know T_Caramel posted a bunch of magus skip videos. You can also do that with out having any mana. Even tho using a Decoy Skip is faster.