MGS4 (1:32:56 by Bonobodu28) - Glitch finding by TheThrillness/Magnum66

2009-02-23 11:22:56 am

Quote from Marco H:

what is my problem in the red zone i copied cosmo but the guy on the left sight see me ? and what you think why is he about 3 minutes faster in his new run

Try my red zone method.
Watch it in Hi quality though my method is a bit easier to pull off.

Marco H

2009-02-23 11:26:51 am

and what you think why he is 3 minutes faster? what is your red zone time?

hillza

2009-02-23 11:29:42 am

Quote from Marco H:

and what you think why he is 3 minutes faster? what is your red zone time?

Why he is 3 minutes faster than what? His last time? My red zone is I think the same as cosmos.

Marco H

2009-02-23 11:33:44 am

I know i mean 3 minutes the whole game my re zone time is 4:03

hillza

2009-02-23 11:37:31 am

Quote from Marco H:

I know i mean 3 minutes the whole game my re zone time is 4:03

Thats good the best time is 4:02 now try to do the red zone in 28-29 seconds or you could do it in 27-28 seconds using mine or cosmos methods without the roll.

Marco H

2009-02-23 11:42:29 am

4:02 is very very difficult is there a way to skip the movie at beginning i was fast like cosmo but i only make it in 4:03

hillza

2009-02-23 11:52:41 am

Quote from Marco H:

4:02 is very very difficult is there a way to skip the movie at beginning i was fast like cosmo but i only make it in 4:03

You cant skip the beginning ads no, id just go with 4:03 mate it is still very good. Do you record your videos?

Marco H

2009-02-24 04:47:39 am

i made it now in 4:02 but in the red zone i have a problem because the guy on the left side see me when i run

Mosaic-J

2009-02-24 07:45:09 am

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ Marco H

If you move quick from the outset & roll at the corner you should get it. 4:01 is the best for Clear Game.

I thought of a new method for the little area from the Mk.II to the MSH. I was hoping for it to be faster than the method in my vid, but the time is exactly the same no matter what I do. I thought I would share it anyway. It's effective & looks nice too. As you approach the 2 guards near the sandbags equip the Stun Knife. Then run into the 1 on the right (hit him near his left side) to knock him backwards near the other 1. Then quickly use the Stun Knife once to catch both of them for a double stun, roll over the sandbags & continue towards the exit. I have it recorded. If it had been 1 second faster I would of used it.

I am currently working on the execution of my Frogs method.

Marco H

2009-02-25 06:04:39 am

I will try until i pass the red zone perfectly. when i can do this im sure that i can beat cosmos time. I freeze the first soldier and run to the entrance this is the method that i use. is 4:01 possible?

hillza

2009-02-25 09:27:53 am

Quote from Marco H:

I will try until i pass the red zone perfectly. when i can do this im sure that i can beat cosmos time. I freeze the first soldier and run to the entrance this is the method that i use. is 4:01 possible?

The freezing the guard method for the red zone is very good I mentioned it in the last page or two it is very hard to pull of though.

Devil_Slider

Edit history:

Devil_Slider: 2009-02-25 01:00:35 pm

2009-02-25 10:24:28 am

Héhé, i'm glad to see that Cosmos upload his vids Cheesy

I was beginning to think that he will never upload vids, LoL! Lips Sealed

@Marco H

LoL! Good luck guy, Cosmos's times will be hard to beat Tongue

EDIT :

Hey, look this guys Wink

http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=superrun.jpg

Again a very awesome time Cheesy

I don't know this "Vaker"
A guy on our French board has put this time. He said that "Vaker" is a friend and also that he can't make vids.

hillza

2009-02-25 01:50:56 pm

Nice time, did you see my route for red zone?

Marco H

2009-02-26 10:50:02 am

i cant finish tehe red zone perfectly i have taken an other but slower method and now my time is 4:39 after the red zone and my central time is 7:34 do you know what cosmos time is at the beginning of central?

Marco H

2009-02-26 11:09:55 am

i have seen the new movie act 2.2 and ive been thinking i be faster

Mosaic-J

2009-02-26 12:38:32 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ Marco H

It takes 28 seconds to do the RZ with Cosmos' method. If he achieved 4:01 for his Red Zone checkpoint, then he should have 4:29 at the Mk. II. His Downtown checkpoint time is likely to be 7:22 or better. (Based on NK's 7:23 save)

hillza

2009-02-26 01:09:54 pm

How are you getting on with your NG frogs method Mosiac?

Devil_Slider

2009-02-26 01:44:52 pm

@hillza

No, I have seen 1 or 2 vids of Cosmos and ricky (a speedrunner put these vids on our French board sometimes), but I haven't seen your news vids and Mosaic's new vids. I'm late, LoL! Grin

Mosaic-J

Edit history:

Mosaic-J: 2009-02-28 07:56:56 am

2009-02-26 02:04:57 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ hillza

Today the execution was ideal & yet after playback I thought I could save some more time. I am about to try again & see if my idea will save me some more time. If not, I will upload Part 2 within a few hours. I will post a link here too. Part 3 will include the last 2 sections of Act 1. This is because I haven't finalised my section ideas for those yet.

EDIT: I was playing around in the Militia Safe House again today, lol (28/2/09) & I've managed to improve my method slightly. It's quicker & looks even better as an added bonus! I've also changed my positioning to get quicker headshots on the 2 militia members near the end. So I may redo the sections again & get it exactly how I want. I will upload the method. Why was I playing around in the MSH again? I wanted to try something & I'm glad I did.

EDIT 2: I am definitely going to redo them now.

EDIT 3: I've just managed to improve my new method from the Mk.II to the Militia Safe House, saving a second (I thought it should of been possible in the first place). My MSH checkpoint is now 2 seconds faster than the one from my current vid. Smiley

@ hillza

Today the execution was ideal & yet after playback I thought I could save some more time. I am about to try again & see if my idea will save me some more time. If not, I will upload Part 2 within a few hours. I will post a link here too. Part 3 will include the last 2 sections of Act 1. This is because I haven't finalised my section ideas for those yet.

[b]EDIT:[/b] I was playing around in the Militia Safe House again today, lol (28/2/09) & I've managed to improve my method slightly. It's quicker & looks even better as an added bonus! I've also changed my positioning to get quicker headshots on the 2 militia members near the end.  So I may redo the sections again & get it exactly how I want. I will upload the method. Why was I playing around in the MSH again? I wanted to try something & I'm glad I did.

EDIT 2: I am definitely going to redo them now.

EDIT 3: I've just managed to improve my new method from the Mk.II to the Militia Safe House, saving a second (I thought it should of been possible in the first place). My MSH checkpoint is now 2 seconds faster than the one from my current vid.  :)

hillza

2009-02-28 09:43:04 am

Quote from Mosaic-J:

@ hillza

Today the execution was ideal & yet after playback I thought I could save some more time. I am about to try again & see if my idea will save me some more time. If not, I will upload Part 2 within a few hours. I will post a link here too. Part 3 will include the last 2 sections of Act 1. This is because I haven't finalised my section ideas for those yet.

EDIT: I was playing around in the Militia Safe House again today, lol (28/2/09) & I've managed to improve my method slightly. It's quicker & looks even better as an added bonus! I've also changed my positioning to get quicker headshots on the 2 militia members near the end. So I may redo the sections again & get it exactly how I want. I will upload the method. Why was I playing around in the MSH again? I wanted to try something & I'm glad I did.

EDIT 2: I am definitely going to redo them now.

EDIT 3: I've just managed to improve my new method from the Mk.II to the Militia Safe House, saving a second (I thought it should of been possible in the first place). My MSH checkpoint is now 2 seconds faster than the one from my current vid. Smiley

Awesome when can we expect the upload?

[quote="Mosaic-J"]
@ hillza

Today the execution was ideal & yet after playback I thought I could save some more time. I am about to try again & see if my idea will save me some more time. If not, I will upload Part 2 within a few hours. I will post a link here too. Part 3 will include the last 2 sections of Act 1. This is because I haven't finalised my section ideas for those yet.

[b]EDIT:[/b] I was playing around in the Militia Safe House again today, lol (28/2/09) & I've managed to improve my method slightly. It's quicker & looks even better as an added bonus! I've also changed my positioning to get quicker headshots on the 2 militia members near the end.  So I may redo the sections again & get it exactly how I want. I will upload the method. Why was I playing around in the MSH again? I wanted to try something & I'm glad I did.

EDIT 2: I am definitely going to redo them now.

EDIT 3: I've just managed to improve my new method from the Mk.II to the Militia Safe House, saving a second (I thought it should of been possible in the first place). My MSH checkpoint is now 2 seconds faster than the one from my current vid.  :)
[/quote]

Awesome when can we expect the upload?

Mosaic-J

2009-02-28 10:49:27 am

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ hillza

As soon as I have reached the Advent Palace again & I'm completely happy with it. It wont be long as I have already discovered the methods I want to use. I will post a link here as usual.

heycrazyray

2009-02-28 01:42:10 pm

@Mosaic-j

Good job on shaving off those 2 seconds! Were you able to get your double-PMC stun method to work before MSH? Smiley

Btw, Cosmos' no damage bike run was very good! Can you tell us why he didn't need to shoot Raven during the bike chase? Maybe I missed something.... because he still one-shot her at the end. Instead he shot a bunch of cars :-[

Mosaic-J

Edit history:

Mosaic-J: 2009-03-01 12:41:48 pm

2009-02-28 02:31:02 pm

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ heycrazyray

Thanks. I'll be saving even more time by the end of the MSH! Yes, I was able to catch both of the guards with the double stun method Smiley

I haven't watched it yet, but I will. You don't need to damage her at all. One well placed head shot with the Railgun is all that is required to finish her. New Game is another matter.

EDIT: I made another modification to my MSH method. I've reached the Urban Ruins 6 seconds faster now! The video may be ready tonight or tomorrow Smiley

heycrazyray

2009-03-01 02:48:10 pm

@Mosaic-j

That's great news! Wow, with 6 second shaved off, does that mean your AP save point is about 8:49? That's only 17 seconds off NK's save point there! Smiley

Good job! I look forward to seeing your progress!

Mosaic-J

Edit history:

Mosaic-J: 2009-03-02 04:52:00 am

2009-03-02 03:19:57 am

MGS4 is a gaming masterpiece.

@ heycrazyray

That was my target or a second earlier. But, since then I've managed to save some more time again in the MSH, so I have to redo it! Lmao! Cheesy

EDIT: I may not be able to save as much time in the MSH as I want. It turns out that my new change actually affects my chances of freezing the 2 guards in the second room. Angry

If I use the new method, the guards become immune to freezing! It appears I need to raise a Caution to be able to freeze them for my method Sad

(This new method cancels the Caution) Which is strange, because you can freeze guards without any Cautions. This is a shame as I had hoped to save even more time. I aim to see if I can save 1 second to reach the Urban Ruins 7 seconds faster instead though Undecided

I was hoping my recent change would allow me to reach the Urban ruins 8-9 seconds faster.

EDIT 2: I've just found a way around the problem! Grin

Lol! Looks like I will save the time after all!