Twilight Princess (GCN)

2010-01-30 04:33:56 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

You should make a video of this if you can some how do it again. If you been falling for 14 minutes chances are your not actually falling, the animation is just going. Second when it comes to water, it does not work the same was as falling off a cliff so you can fall forever. My guess is your falling right on the very edge of the water.

tjp7154

2010-01-30 05:21:46 pm

#Casual

Discussion has moved to www.zeldaspeedruns.com. That's where all the Zelda action is. Sometimes they post over here with quick updates, though...

mzxrules (away)

2010-02-09 11:26:16 am

Quote from Mr.Dent42:

How is it going with the runs, have the speedrunners here given up? Is the routes on the speedrun wiki up to date? I hope people don't give up speedrunning, and I don't think people should restart their runs when something new is dicovered.
I'm going through the game myself. Right now I am at the Lakebed Temple, I tried to clip through the vines with the the water raised in the main room. I fell with the usual falling animation blinking red, as I write I have been fallig through the water for 14 minutes. Have anyone experienced this before?

You're forgetting to unequip the Iron Boots after you clip through the wall. The animation will stay locked and you will continue sinking until you do so.

KingOfHeart

2010-02-26 06:51:03 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

We need to see if we can find more loading issues. So far we found the following.

-Reset the game while falling to start on the title screen.
-Start the game when falling on the title screen to start fighting king bublin with all your equipment.
-Try to load map and warp while talking with minda to prevent your basic screen warping.
-Do the glitch above and do a door glitch to create a glitch where you can roll on steep slopes.
-Stop the CD from running while entering a new area that does not need warping to prevent the loading of an area for a short time.
-When dying while flying on the dark bird in the twilight world and getting the master early causes there to be no water in lake hylia.

Now maybe there are more ways to break loading a screen in some way. Depending on how it's done, we may be able to find new short cuts and/or skip more areas.

I wonder if we can cancel a reset in any way to create some weird loading glitch. Or can we use the map glitch to create some new glitches.
Be creating and maybe we can find something.

We need to see if we can find more loading issues. So far we found the following.

-Reset the game while falling to start on the title screen.
-Start the game when falling on the title screen to start fighting king bublin with all your equipment.
-Try to load map and warp while talking with minda to prevent your basic screen warping.
-Do the glitch above and do a door glitch to create a glitch where you can roll on steep slopes.
-Stop the CD from running while entering a new area that does not need warping to prevent the loading of an area for a short time.
-When dying while flying on the dark bird in the twilight world and getting the master early causes there to be no water in lake hylia.

Now maybe there are more ways to break loading a screen in some way. Depending on how it's done, we may be able to find new short cuts and/or skip more areas.

I wonder if we can cancel a reset in any way to create some weird loading glitch. Or can we use the map glitch to create some new glitches.
Be creating and maybe we can find something.

alexChimpas

2010-02-27 10:59:11 am

hey guys, I just finished my TP run, Check out at ZSR for updates Wink

kingnahum17

2010-03-04 05:42:40 pm

Quit your belly aching Solder!

Quote from KingOfHeart:

When you learn the B charge you could skip the fighting if you could find some way to touch minda.

Yeah, though have we found anyway to spawn the white wolf at will yet? Don't you have to beat the 3rd temple before he appears and you can get the Jump Charge, then be able to transform as well (Need to have MS as well)?

I could be wrong about the temple, but I'm pretty sure you need to get past certain checkpoints for the wolf to appear...

KingOfHeart

2010-03-06 08:57:13 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

No, that just gives you the ability to do it during the non-twilight areas. The area I'm talking about is within the twilight so you'll have that ability at that time.

KingOfHeart

2010-04-11 05:46:06 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Any new glitches, speed runs, etc?
It's a shame the GC version of TP never was completed, unless if I'm mistaken.

Manocheese

2010-04-11 06:17:53 pm

Yes, a cucco riding the ground.

You're mistaken.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/ZeldaTwilightPrincess.html

KingOfHeart

2010-04-11 09:08:19 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I meant recently.
That old run can be beaten easily with these new glitches that were found.

SD2

2010-04-12 02:44:07 pm

dem tokay

There's no run because no one wants to work on it.

As a result, I don't think there's anything new in terms of glitches, but I could be wrong.

KingOfHeart

2010-04-12 08:18:54 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I just found this glitch on youtube, not sure if it's for GC as well.

So apparently you can warp while under water. Not sure if it will help with any speed runs though.

mzxrules

2010-04-14 11:04:08 am

zeldaspeedruns.com

I love how that video is almost 3 years old.

No, the newest glitch I've seen in recent memory is that Logitech discovered that you can do BiTE in Bo's house, and that the success of BiTE only depends on where you last saved on the file you load to "Equip" Link. With this, we can BiTE warp straight to the King Bublin fight in the 100% route.

KingOfHeart

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2010-04-14 06:23:32 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Interesting.
Link to the video?

edit: NVM, read it wrong. Thought you meant you found a timer saver for the quickest route.
I notice the video of logitec teaching how to to the BIT glitch. I have to try this, since I only pulled this off once back then in the desert dungeon.

13013

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2010-04-15 03:08:32 pm

Yes Mario Riding A Pole

anyone know of the most resent youtube channel of the guy who is doing a 100% run? just wondering if he is still doing it or if anyone knew is attempting it thanks & please post the youtube channel of the guy or any others if you know of them in the works thanks.

KingOfHeart

2010-04-15 08:54:17 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

This is probably slower, but would using BITE during the time your captured speed things up at all?
Once you have minda and your sense ability, you no longer need to be in that castle.

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2010-04-16 10:56:42 am

Quote from 13013:

anyone know of the most resent youtube channel of the guy who is doing a 100% run? just wondering if he is still doing it or if anyone knew is attempting it thanks & please post the youtube channel of the guy or any others if you know of them in the works thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Paraxade0#grid/user/C77CB165A0296D3F

And not to speak for Paraxade, but the last message I saw from him on the subject on continuing, (On Zoid's youtube page IIRC) was that he was lacking on motivation to play the game.

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13013

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2010-04-16 11:16:36 am

Yes Mario Riding A Pole

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Quote from 13013:

anyone know of the most resent youtube channel of the guy who is doing a 100% run? just wondering if he is still doing it or if anyone knew is attempting it thanks & please post the youtube channel of the guy or any others if you know of them in the works thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Paraxade0#grid/user/C77CB165A0296D3F

And not to speak for Paraxade, but the last message I saw from him on the subject on continuing, (On Zoid's youtube page IIRC) was that he was lacking on motivation to play the game.

Thanks yeah i remember him. its been over a year though lol and no more twilight princess in a while for him. thanks for reminding me of him Smiley

KingOfHeart

2010-04-16 04:26:32 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I just thought of a possible shortcut.
What if you would you do BIT in the forest dungeon after getting the boomerang.
You would end up on the other side of kakariko village without having the fight the forest boss or get the Master Key. Also you won;t have to fix the bridge.
As long as you have the master sword, you should be able to transform into the wolf.

So am I right?

kingnahum17

2010-04-20 04:39:48 pm

Quit your belly aching Solder!

Not sure about the new shortcut idea, but has TPFox given up for good?

KingOfHeart

2010-04-25 12:10:57 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Anyone got a video for the fastest time for the bublin fight? That way we can compare some times until someone confirms my idea.

logitechSDAZ

2010-04-25 06:13:45 pm

Quote from KingOfHeart:

This is probably slower, but would using BITE during the time your captured speed things up at all?
Once you have minda and your sense ability, you no longer need to be in that castle.

The game freezes with BITE in the castle. You also need to be able to do area attack, which you don't get until twilight Faron.

Quote from KingOfHeart:

I just thought of a possible shortcut.
What if you would you do BIT in the forest dungeon after getting the boomerang.
You would end up on the other side of kakariko village without having the fight the forest boss or get the Master Key. Also you won;t have to fix the bridge.
As long as you have the master sword, you should be able to transform into the wolf.

So am I right?

If you don't beat the twilit messengers in Kakariko gorge, then you can't do map glitch, which means no early Snowpeak. You can't get to the other side of the gorge to fight the messengers if you BITE after boomerang.

If you do BITE, clear Kakariko twilight anyway, then you're stuck with no map glitch and can't go anywhere else. You can't LJA to the other side of the gorge to clip the gate to early lake hylia. You can't get past the giant rock past Eldin bridge by using the long way to lake hylia. Having early master sword doesn't resolve any of these dead ends.

[quote="KingOfHeart"]
This is probably slower, but would using BITE during the time your captured speed things up at all?
Once you have minda and your sense ability, you no longer need to be in that castle.
[/quote]

The game freezes with BITE in the castle. You also need to be able to do area attack, which you don't get until twilight Faron.

[quote="KingOfHeart"]
I just thought of a possible shortcut. 
What if you would you do BIT in the forest dungeon after getting the boomerang.
You would end up on the other side of kakariko village without having the fight the forest boss or get the Master Key. Also you won;t have to fix the bridge.
As long as you have the master sword, you should be able to transform into the wolf.

So am I right?
[/quote]

If you don't beat the twilit messengers in Kakariko gorge, then you can't do map glitch, which means no early Snowpeak. You can't get to the other side of the gorge to fight the messengers if you BITE after boomerang.

If you do BITE, clear Kakariko twilight anyway, then you're stuck with no map glitch and can't go anywhere else. You can't LJA to the other side of the gorge to clip the gate to early lake hylia. You can't get past the giant rock past Eldin bridge by using the long way to lake hylia. Having early master sword doesn't resolve any of these dead ends.

kingnahum17

2010-04-25 07:34:58 pm

Quit your belly aching Solder!

What if you used did the map glitch (load glitch if they aren't the same) just before the kakariko gorge area? Couldn't you skip the bridge and simply go past it into Kakariko or something like that?

Also same Q as before... has TPfox give up his run for good?

logitechSDAZ

2010-04-25 09:34:22 pm

Quote from kingnahum17:

What if you used did the map glitch (load glitch if they aren't the same) just before the kakariko gorge area? Couldn't you skip the bridge and simply go past it into Kakariko or something like that?

Specifically, you can't do map glitch until Midna teaches you how to use the map to warp. This means you have to warp to either south or north faron after beating the gorge messengers. The game forces you to do this right after defeating them. So yeah...after that, you could go back to the gorge, do map glitch, and attempt to get past the gorge, but that would waste a lot of time. You can't get past the gorge with no bridge even with map glitch on anyway. You could try to BITE past the gorge, but that would waste time also since you would have to fight King Bulblin.

KingOfHeart

2010-04-26 06:49:18 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Right, I forgot all about the fact you won't have the map glitch.

kingnahum17 if your talking about removing the game to stop the loading of a new area, that's considered illegal at this point.

BTW if anyone is interested in just glitches, I found a loading box (a made up name I'm calling it).

It's a black solid box. Within the box is all the children and the scarecrow. They don't say anything, so all you can do is whack them with your sword.
Your going to need action replay as far as I know.

Head to the south of Kakariko Gorge during the twilight time until you reach a dead-end (that twilight wall where you entered from.)
You'll need to get to the other side. I used a spinner and flew around.
Once your around slowly lower yourself until you see a black area. Stay close and you will see some people. The black box has a solid ground so you can walk here.
If anyone wants to record it (if no one found this), that would be cool.

I know there's another black box to the north of Kakariko village in the Hyrule field as well, I seen a video back then.
Wonder how many black boxes exist.

Right, I forgot all about the fact you won't have the map glitch.

kingnahum17 if your talking about removing the game to stop the loading of a new area, that's considered illegal at this point.

BTW if anyone is interested in just glitches, I found a loading box (a made up name I'm calling it).

It's a black solid box. Within the box is all the children and the scarecrow. They don't say anything, so all you can do is whack them with your sword.
Your going to need action replay as far as I know.

Head to the south of Kakariko Gorge during the twilight time until you reach a dead-end (that twilight wall where you entered from.)
You'll need to get to the other side. I used a spinner and flew around.
Once your around slowly lower yourself until you see a black area. Stay close and you will see some people. The black box has a solid ground so you can walk here.
If anyone wants to record it (if no one found this), that would be cool.

I know there's another black box to the north of Kakariko village in the Hyrule field as well, I seen a video back then.
Wonder how many black boxes exist.