Top 5 systems ever made?

2007-01-29 09:39:26 pm

^ A bug called Stinks.

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1) SNES
2) PS2
3) XBox 360
4) Game boy advance
5) Atari which I don't remember the number after Tongue

How can you put the Wii on a top 5 when it'S only have 1 good game currently ??

It's an opinion, that's that. I'd hate to see this thread being locked or deleted because of a "console war".

1) Playstation 3
2) Playstation 2
3) Playstation
4) Nintendo 64
5) Gameboy (Any of them)

Don't ask.

dEr_RiNkE

2007-01-29 09:44:17 pm

Yea.

1) SNES ... just too awesome
2) Wii ... got it a few weeks ago and i really love it!
3) Playstation 2 ... many just great games
4) Gameboy ... my favourite Handheld
5) N 64 ... really nice!

Lazylen

2007-01-29 10:37:03 pm

fuck you i wont do what you tell me

hey.... i liked my game gear... im sure its still kicking around somewhere....

somewhere...

i dont have a list....

but my game gear wouldnt be near the top :|

l2ebel

2007-01-29 11:27:34 pm

Expert Donkey Fister

1: PC
2: PC
3: PC
4: PC
5: PC

someone had to..

Creuil MS6

2007-01-30 12:07:02 am

Heaven or Hell! Let's Rock!

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Dude, you are so a fighting game enthusiest aren't you? Grin

Yes

but not only fighting games
I love shmups et arcade games too, especially the sega games

Da Dood

2007-01-30 02:28:09 am

Dood Trigger™

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I realize that the playstation has had more of an impact than the n64 and defined gaming of today more (for better or worse).

Still has absolutely nothing to do with favoring one system instead of the other. It's quite obvious that the PlayStation had a higher impact. Your original post sounded as if you considered wrong to prefer one system over the other - even at the time -, which is kinda silly.

But I see what you mean.

coolcwer/triforce

2007-01-30 02:36:12 am

I'm not THAT bad.

5. SNES
4. Gamecube
3. DS
2. N64
1. Wii

I'm a nintendo fan, so what? >_>

bjteam

2007-01-30 04:56:18 am

My list would be:

1. Nintendo 64
2. Wii
3. NDS
3. Super NES
5. MegaDrive (Genesis)

Mkt2015

2007-01-30 08:50:10 am

MGS for PS1 forever.

1. snes
2. ps2
3. ps1
4. nes
5. ps3

trihex

2007-01-30 02:33:25 pm

Yoshi's eggs are at my mercy!

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hey.... i liked my game gear... im sure its still kicking around somewhere....

somewhere...

i dont have a list....

but my game gear wouldnt be near the top :|

Mine is bricked. The battery compartments are full of battery acid after losing it for 7 years. And hunting down a Game Gear AC adapter online is too bothersome. The only reason I'd even want to play it at this point is to show to all my friends with their DSes at school, to let them laugh at it.

I can't recall any good games for the thing. I remember it being very heavy, wide, terrible battery life (6 AAs = 3 hours), and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 being far too hard.

Lag.Com

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Lag.Com: 2007-01-30 06:23:09 pm

2007-01-30 03:52:01 pm

sda loyalist

1. PC - more versatile than anything else, plus you can mod the hell out of games you own
2. PS2 - simply stunning catalogue of titles (if you ignore all the endless sports remakes)
3. Mega Drive - era-defining games and the start of many great series (which are carried on badly into the 3d era)
4. XBox - though there are only a few games I play on it, I appreciate the fantastic framework MS have built
5. Gamecube - SSBM and Metroid Prime

stanski

2007-01-30 07:40:49 pm

wise fwom yo gwave

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I can't recall any good games for the thing. I remember it being very heavy, wide, terrible battery life (6 AAs = 3 hours), and Sonic the Hedgehog 2 being far too hard.

Everything is pretty right except for sonic 2 being hard. It was more difficult than other sonic games, but by no means would I classify it as hard.

The games were about as good as gameboy games of the time, though. And they were in color with a backlit screen-a huge plus at the time. Had the batteries lasted at least a decent amount of time, it would have been much more successful.

Lazylen

2007-01-31 03:58:15 am

fuck you i wont do what you tell me

i was kidding about the game gear...

sonic was fun... i almost beat it once.

Amazing Ampharos

2007-02-01 08:44:31 am

I played some of the Game Gear games on SADX, and they didn't seem as good as the GB Mario games. The early gameboy also had Zelda: Link's Awakening which was an extraordinarily good game even by console standards. Of course, once Pokemon entered the fray, the GB's superiority was clear.

I don't know if I can fairly rank the top five systems, but I'm pretty sure the SNES is the best system of all time. I also think I like the Gamecube better than the N64, despite popular opinion(both are cool consoles in their own ways).

tagh_azog

2007-02-01 11:29:11 am

piece of cake!

PC

And the rest... Grin

SuperCoolAl

2007-02-01 02:28:04 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

1) N64
2) Dreamcast
3) DS
4) Wii
5) SNES

Wii will undoubtedly move up as the game library expands.

One of the reasons Dreamcast features so prominently is because it brought 60Hz gaming to Europe for the first time; something I will be ever-grateful for. It also had some absolutely stunning games.

Rael

2007-02-01 04:12:51 pm

1. SNES
2. PSX
3. GBA
4. N64
5. NES

Note: This list does not factor in backwards compatability.

Carcinogen

2007-02-01 05:32:29 pm

5. Nintendo 64 (I remember when I was a wee lad and it first came out, I was all "OMFG NINTENDO 64! YOU GIEV NINTENDO 64!" Despite its bad third party support and crappy easy-to-kill controllers, a lot of the games were top notch.
4. NES (My first game system. I rediscovered it over the last year by picking up a ton of classics from the bargain bin. Needless to say, it's still fun. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Mario, Metroid, Zelda, the works.)
3. PC (In my eyes, the perfect platform for multiplayer gaming. Only problem, it's expensive as hell to keep up with.)
2. PS2 (I'm factoring in backwards compatibility. PSX games were among the best I've played, the PS1 was the system that truely sucked me into my current taste of games. That continued on with the PS2, with a great array of games, and the backwards compatibility. Of course, PS3 will replace the list eventually, come price drop and new games)
1. Super Nintendo (Words can not describe the overall pwnage this system is. It's a close race between the PS1 and the SNES for me, but the SNES takes the cake because imo it's the system that layed the path to greatness for other systems.)

Great systems that didn't make it on my best-ever list, but I fucking love anyway:
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
Nintendo Wii (this'll change hopefully =D)

5. Nintendo 64 (I remember when I was a wee lad and it first came out, I was all "OMFG NINTENDO 64! YOU GIEV NINTENDO 64!" Despite its bad third party support and crappy easy-to-kill controllers, a lot of the games were top notch.
4. NES (My first game system. I rediscovered it over the last year by picking up a ton of classics from the bargain bin. Needless to say, it's still fun. Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Mario, Metroid, Zelda, the works.)
3. PC (In my eyes, the perfect platform for multiplayer gaming. Only problem, it's expensive as hell to keep up with.)
2. PS2 (I'm factoring in backwards compatibility. PSX games were among the best I've played, the PS1 was the system that truely sucked me into my current taste of games. That continued on with the PS2, with a great array of games, and the backwards compatibility. Of course, PS3 will replace the list eventually, come price drop and new games)
1. Super Nintendo (Words can not describe the overall pwnage this system is. It's a close race between the PS1 and the SNES for me, but the SNES takes the cake because imo it's the system that layed the path to greatness for other systems.)

Great systems that didn't make it on my best-ever list, but I fucking love anyway:
Sega Saturn
Sega Dreamcast
Nintendo Wii (this'll change hopefully =D)

yoshmaster5

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yoshmaster5: 2007-02-03 06:33:04 pm

2007-02-03 06:26:23 pm

Also tenkiforecast

Well...

1. SNES: It followed up, pioneered, and greatly improved all the classic games from NES. Final Fantasy became phenomenal on the SNES, Fire Emblem had its still best game on teh SNES. I could go on, but the SNES really is the best system in my opinion.

2. N64: in where the SNES petered out, the N64 took up, and improved. While games like A Link to the Past were great, OoT overshadowed it by the new graphics, and deep storyline, and replayability. Star Fox became godly, and many other series had great games on it, including some of the "best games of their genre," but in many ways, it couldn't follow up the SNES.

3. Playstation(2): I've rarely played it, but I know how good it is. teh RPG genre of today was established on PS2 and PSX. Plus, more FPS's, and other famous series have become established on the PS, or transferred to it. (FF).

4. Sega Genesis: Made to compete with the SNES, this console did fairly well, considering Nintendo's huge variety of games. Sonic appeared on this console, and the sonic games on GEN are still the best ones I've ever played. The problem, though, is aside from sonic, the Genesis didn't have many games that stuck out in history.

5. NES: You can't really argue with the NES being a great system. Sure, the 8-bit graphics look silly now, but it started almost every running series out today. Plus, the NES and Super Mario Bros. brought gaming to where it is today.

Honorable mentions:
Game boy (All): PKMN saved Nintendo's hold on the handheld market, and now, numerous ports from teh SNES and NES are coming to the new systems for the newer gamers, or diehard fans who were unable to play the classic games, or their consoles just broke.

Dreamcast: Sega's last attempt... and if they had waited longer, or advertised better, they might have stayed in teh console market. The first console to go online, and it had several great games. Provided Sonic Adventrue couldn't live up to the classic sonic games, they still did better than the recent ones. (Sonic + Guns = traitors to history).

PC: ... IMO, the best shooter system out there. I've played Halo, Battlefront, and numerous otehr shooters on consoles, but the Keyboard and mouse surpass them in every way imagineable. Plus, tehre are many other famous games and series that still are only on PC. RollarCoaster Tycoon, Dark Forces, all the older games still surpass the newer ones.

GCN: A good follow up to the N64, but there were too many foul-ups Nintendo made in this console. Mario does not need a water cannon, and Star Fox should be ARWING ONLY. Wind Waker was a depressing follow to OoT and MM, and TP came too late. But, it still has some of the best games I've played. SSBM is undoubtably one of the best fighting game ever made.

Well...

1. SNES: It followed up, pioneered, and greatly improved all the classic games from NES. Final Fantasy became phenomenal on the SNES, Fire Emblem had its still best game on teh SNES. I could go on, but the SNES really is the best system in my opinion.

2. N64: in where the SNES petered out, the N64 took up, and improved. While games like A Link to the Past were great, OoT overshadowed it by the new graphics, and deep storyline, and replayability. Star Fox became godly, and many other series had great games on it, including some of the "best games of their genre," but in many ways, it couldn't follow up the SNES.

3. Playstation(2): I've rarely played it, but I know how good it is. teh RPG genre of today was established on PS2 and PSX. Plus, more FPS's, and other famous series have become established on the PS, or transferred to it. (FF).

4. Sega Genesis: Made to compete with the SNES, this console did fairly well, considering Nintendo's huge variety of games. Sonic appeared on this console, and the sonic games on GEN are still the best ones I've ever played. The problem, though, is aside from sonic, the Genesis didn't have many games that stuck out in history.

5. NES: You can't really argue with the NES being a great system. Sure, the 8-bit graphics look silly now, but it started almost every running series out today. Plus, the NES and Super Mario Bros. brought gaming to where it is today.

Honorable mentions:
Game boy (All): PKMN saved Nintendo's hold on the handheld market, and now, numerous ports from teh SNES and NES are coming to the new systems for the newer gamers, or diehard fans who were unable to play the classic games, or their consoles just broke.

Dreamcast: Sega's last attempt... and if they had waited longer, or advertised better, they might have stayed in teh console market. The first console to go online, and it had several great games. Provided Sonic Adventrue couldn't live up to the classic sonic games, they still did better than the recent ones. (Sonic + Guns = traitors to history).

PC: ... IMO, the best shooter system out there. I've played Halo, Battlefront, and numerous otehr shooters on consoles, but the Keyboard and mouse surpass them in every way imagineable. Plus, tehre are many other famous games and series that still are only on PC. RollarCoaster Tycoon, Dark Forces, all the older games still surpass the newer ones.

GCN: A good follow up to the N64, but there were too many foul-ups Nintendo made in this console. Mario does not need a water cannon, and Star Fox should be ARWING ONLY. Wind Waker was a depressing follow to OoT and MM, and TP came too late. But, it still has some of the best games I've played. SSBM is undoubtably one of the best fighting game ever made.

stanski

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stanski: 2007-02-04 03:15:06 am

2007-02-04 03:12:56 am

wise fwom yo gwave

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Well...

4. Sega Genesis: Made to compete with the SNES, this console did fairly well, considering Nintendo's huge variety of games. Sonic appeared on this console, and the sonic games on GEN are still the best ones I've ever played. The problem, though, is aside from sonic, the Genesis didn't have many games that stuck out in history.

You obviously have not dug into the genesis as all, because flat out you are just wrong about it not having game variety. It pioneered many a genre, and shining force 2 is better than any fire emblem game that has been put out, it is the best tactical rpg in existence. M.U.S.H.A., thunder force 3 and 4 are the 3 of the best shmups you'll ever come across. The sports games were pioneering and phenominal. The rpg's were not very emphasized, but it has a strong lineup in phantasy star 2-4, shining in the darkness, crusader of centy etc. etc. Not to mention great original games like herzog zwei and gain ground. There is just such a wealth of titles that you are missing, you obviously have not looked into the system at all. I don't mind you judging the snes library against the genesis, because thats an opinion, but the fact remains that the genesis had just as many, if not more, great titles as the snes, so saying "it had nothing but sonic" is just dumb.

And to top it off, the genesis did not compete with the snes, it competed with the nes first and 4 (!) years later competed with the snes, quite well I might add. I guess I really shouldn't bother arguing with people who put the n64 ahead of the nes (read: everyone here), as the n64 literally had 2 genres it did well, mario-clones and 2 FPS games.

[quote]Well...

4. Sega Genesis: Made to compete with the SNES, this console did fairly well, considering Nintendo's huge variety of games. Sonic appeared on this console, and the sonic games on GEN are still the best ones I've ever played. The problem, though, is aside from sonic, the Genesis didn't have many games that stuck out in history.

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You obviously have not dug into the genesis as all, because flat out you are just wrong about it not having game variety. It pioneered many a genre, and shining force 2 is better than any fire emblem game that has been put out, it is the best tactical rpg in existence. M.U.S.H.A., thunder force 3 and 4 are the 3 of the best shmups you'll ever come across. The sports games were pioneering and phenominal. The rpg's were not very emphasized, but it has a strong lineup in phantasy star 2-4, shining in the darkness, crusader of centy etc. etc. Not to mention great original games like herzog zwei and gain ground. There is just such a wealth of titles that you are missing, you obviously have not looked into the system at all. I don't mind you judging the snes library against the genesis, because thats an opinion, but the fact remains that the genesis had just as many, if not more, great titles as the snes, so saying "it had nothing but sonic" is just dumb.

And to top it off, the genesis did not compete with the snes, it competed with the nes first and 4 (!) years later competed with the snes, quite well I might add. I guess I really shouldn't bother arguing with people who put the n64 ahead of the nes (read: everyone here), as the n64 literally had 2 genres it did well, mario-clones and 2 FPS games.

Smelly Stinks >.&am

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Smelly Stinks >.&am: 2007-02-04 03:31:08 am

2007-02-04 03:30:16 am

^ A bug called Stinks.

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You obviously have not dug into the genesis as all, because flat out you are just wrong about it not having game variety. It pioneered many a genre, and shining force 2 is better than any fire emblem game that has been put out, it is the best tactical rpg in existence. M.U.S.H.A., thunder force 3 and 4 are the 3 of the best shmups you'll ever come across. The sports games were pioneering and phenominal. The rpg's were not very emphasized, but it has a strong lineup in phantasy star 2-4, shining in the darkness, crusader of centy etc. etc. Not to mention great original games like herzog zwei and gain ground. There is just such a wealth of titles that you are missing, you obviously have not looked into the system at all. I don't mind you judging the snes library against the genesis, because thats an opinion, but the fact remains that the genesis had just as many, if not more, great titles as the snes, so saying "it had nothing but sonic" is just dumb.

And to top it off, the genesis did not compete with the snes, it competed with the nes first and 4 (!) years later competed with the snes, quite well I might add. I guess I really shouldn't bother arguing with people who put the n64 ahead of the nes (read: everyone here), as the n64 literally had 2 genres it did well, mario-clones and 2 FPS games.

It's his opinion. Maybe he doesn't like any of the other games? Maybe he meant to say "It had no good games, except for Sonic", which is acceptable, though would've been better with a throughful explanation.

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You obviously have not dug into the genesis as all, because flat out you are just wrong about it not having game variety. It pioneered many a genre, and shining force 2 is better than any fire emblem game that has been put out, it is the best tactical rpg in existence. M.U.S.H.A., thunder force 3 and 4 are the 3 of the best shmups you'll ever come across. The sports games were pioneering and phenominal. The rpg's were not very emphasized, but it has a strong lineup in phantasy star 2-4, shining in the darkness, crusader of centy etc. etc. Not to mention great original games like herzog zwei and gain ground. There is just such a wealth of titles that you are missing, you obviously have not looked into the system at all. I don't mind you judging the snes library against the genesis, because thats an opinion, but the fact remains that the genesis had just as many, if not more, great titles as the snes, so saying "it had nothing but sonic" is just dumb.

And to top it off, the genesis did not compete with the snes, it competed with the nes first and 4 (!) years later competed with the snes, quite well I might add. I guess I really shouldn't bother arguing with people who put the n64 ahead of the nes (read: everyone here), as the n64 literally had 2 genres it did well, mario-clones and 2 FPS games. [/quote]

It's his opinion. Maybe he doesn't like any of the other games? Maybe he meant to say "It had no good games, except for Sonic", which is acceptable, though would've been better with a throughful explanation.

Rael

2007-02-04 06:04:31 am

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You obviously have not dug into the genesis as all, because flat out you are just wrong about it not having game variety. It pioneered many a genre, and shining force 2 is better than any fire emblem game that has been put out, it is the best tactical rpg in existence. M.U.S.H.A., thunder force 3 and 4 are the 3 of the best shmups you'll ever come across. The sports games were pioneering and phenominal. The rpg's were not very emphasized, but it has a strong lineup in phantasy star 2-4, shining in the darkness, crusader of centy etc. etc. Not to mention great original games like herzog zwei and gain ground. There is just such a wealth of titles that you are missing, you obviously have not looked into the system at all. I don't mind you judging the snes library against the genesis, because thats an opinion, but the fact remains that the genesis had just as many, if not more, great titles as the snes, so saying "it had nothing but sonic" is just dumb.

And to top it off, the genesis did not compete with the snes, it competed with the nes first and 4 (!) years later competed with the snes, quite well I might add. I guess I really shouldn't bother arguing with people who put the n64 ahead of the nes (read: everyone here), as the n64 literally had 2 genres it did well, mario-clones and 2 FPS games.

This still does not address the claim you quoted, that is the genesis had games that stuck out in history. First off, I think we can agree a game's quality and popularity may not always be proportional. So, why we would we not expect the same of the genesis library? It seems in your opinion, and please correct me if I am putting words in your mouth, the N64 is remembered fondly in spite of the quality of its games. Then, are you not willing to say the genesis may be remembered poorly in spite of its library (just for the sake of argument)?

I will be honest and say I have not heard of many of games you listed. This is probably caused by, at least marginally, the fact I did not own any gaming systems until 1999 (okay, technically I had an NES when I was ~4/5, but I only had it for less than a month.) To me, the 3rd and 4th generation of video games is "before my time" despite currently being 20 years old. Over the years I have gained an interest in "retro" gaming and have attempted to make it a part of my gaming experience. However, for obvious reasons, I cannot sample every videogame known to man. Thus, like anyone, I must choose what games to play, and, again like anyone, I wish to play good games. To do so, and tell me when I am being unreasonable, I have used two sources: friends and the internet

You will have to take my word my friends are Nintendo gamers and have affected my perspective on the 3rd and 4th generation by giving it a nintendo emphasis. As for the internet, IMHO genesis games have not fared as well as nes/snes games. Just look at the ign or gamefaqs 100 greatest games list. Look at the selection of games at this site. The obvious rebuttal is that this site is clogged with nintendo fan-boys. But this site is open to anyone who happens to stumble upon it. Given the community's large sampling size and the fact we don't exclude sega gamers, the "nintendo fan-boy" argument only goes so far. While it may not be perfectly representative of the gaming community, we shouldn't expect it to completely removed from it, especially in its own age group. Which brings me to my original point. The genesis is remembered poorly in spite of its library.

Finally, about placing the N64 above the nes, my reason is simply based on which I remember more fondly from my early years of gaming, even if those years were in middle school. I don't mind you contesting this, but dismissing me or others based on this alone is unfortunate. I will even go so far as to say its hypocritical given that your response to yoshmaster5 displays the same emotions for the genesis that I have for the n64.

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You obviously have not dug into the genesis as all, because flat out you are just wrong about it not having game variety. It pioneered many a genre, and shining force 2 is better than any fire emblem game that has been put out, it is the best tactical rpg in existence. M.U.S.H.A., thunder force 3 and 4 are the 3 of the best shmups you'll ever come across. The sports games were pioneering and phenominal. The rpg's were not very emphasized, but it has a strong lineup in phantasy star 2-4, shining in the darkness, crusader of centy etc. etc. Not to mention great original games like herzog zwei and gain ground. There is just such a wealth of titles that you are missing, you obviously have not looked into the system at all. I don't mind you judging the snes library against the genesis, because thats an opinion, but the fact remains that the genesis had just as many, if not more, great titles as the snes, so saying "it had nothing but sonic" is just dumb.

And to top it off, the genesis did not compete with the snes, it competed with the nes first and 4 (!) years later competed with the snes, quite well I might add. I guess I really shouldn't bother arguing with people who put the n64 ahead of the nes (read: everyone here), as the n64 literally had 2 genres it did well, mario-clones and 2 FPS games. [/quote]

This still does not address the claim you quoted, that is the genesis had games that stuck out in history.   First off, I think we can agree a game's quality and popularity may not [b] always [/b] be proportional.  So, why we would we not expect the same of the genesis library?  It seems in your opinion, and please correct me if I am putting words in your mouth, the N64 is remembered fondly [b] in spite [/b] of the quality of its games.  Then, are you not willing to say the genesis [b]  may [/b] be remembered poorly [b] in spite [/b] of its library (just for the sake of argument)?

I will be honest and say I have not heard of many of games you listed.  This is probably caused by, at least marginally, the fact I did not own any gaming systems until 1999 (okay, technically I had an NES when I was ~4/5, but I only had it for less than a month.)  To me, the 3rd and 4th generation of video games is "before my time" despite currently being 20 years old.  Over the years I have gained an interest in "retro" gaming and have attempted to make it a  part of my gaming experience.  However, for obvious reasons, I cannot sample every videogame known to man.  Thus, like anyone, I must choose what games to play, and, again like anyone, I wish to play good games.  To do so, and tell me when I am being unreasonable, I have used two sources: friends and the internet

You will have to take my word my friends are Nintendo gamers and have affected my perspective on the 3rd and 4th generation by giving it a nintendo emphasis.  As for the internet, IMHO genesis games have not fared as well as nes/snes games.  Just look at the ign or gamefaqs 100 greatest games list.  Look at the selection of games at this site.  The obvious rebuttal is that this site is clogged with nintendo fan-boys.  But this site is open to anyone who happens to stumble upon it.  Given the community's large sampling size and the fact we don't exclude sega gamers, the "nintendo fan-boy" argument only goes so far.  While it may not be perfectly representative of the gaming community, we shouldn't expect it to completely removed from it, especially in its own age group.  Which brings me to my original point.  The genesis is remembered poorly [b] in spite [/b] of its library.

Finally, about placing the N64 above the nes, my reason is simply based on which I remember more fondly from my early years of gaming, even if those years were in middle school.  I don't mind you contesting this, but dismissing me or others based on this alone is unfortunate.  I will even go so far as to say its hypocritical given that your response to yoshmaster5 displays the same emotions for the genesis that I have for the n64.

InsipidMuckyWater

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InsipidMuckyWater: 2007-02-04 06:46:42 am

2007-02-04 06:45:11 am

Visit my profile to see my runs!

Hey, Rael. I see we're riding the same bandwagon, for once. Wink

Anyway, I have no present intention to list my favorite consoles, since there are only so many combinations... and because I'm lazy. But, in regards to stanski's incendiary comments, I just wanted to remark both of these quotes:

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so saying "it had nothing but sonic" is just dumb.

And...

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the n64 literally had 2 genres it did well, mario-clones and 2 FPS games.

That, right there, is hypocrisy.

Now, I'm gracefully going to exit stage left and vascillate my play time with Genesis and N64, both of which I love, to absolve myself from these bitter rumblings. Har har...

mikwuyma

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mikwuyma: 2007-02-04 06:59:37 am

2007-02-04 06:59:07 am

My feelings on The Demon Rush

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The obvious rebuttal is that this site is clogged with nintendo fan-boys.

Well duh, the game list has 32 N64 games on it currently. That's over three times the amount of good games that the N64 had Tongue

P.S. Aren't you guys so glad I'm a mod.

stanski

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stanski: 2007-02-04 07:03:03 am

2007-02-04 06:59:41 am

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I can't argue with you in that the genesis games of yesteryear have not had a direct impact on gaming of today (i.e. no sequels). For example, where are the golden axe games, where are the streets of rage, where are the thunder force games.

In its time though, these games WERE popular and DID have an impact. Before the snes (I realize I was also very very young at this time, so I'm going on what my brother tells me and from reading), 1990-1993, the genesis came along and brought in a huge variety of new genres, ports of great arcade games, and some great classics. Now, my contention is that they still affected how games were produced for systems to come. Herzog Zwei, while you may not have heard of it, is the first real time strategy game on console. The shooters in the genesis library are literally legendary. People STILL think NHL '94 is the best Hockey game of all time, 13 years later!

Now, my contention is that there are just not nearly as many sega fans on this site as nintendo fans and p.c. fans. The genesis/sega cd has 24 runs on the site currently (a few more if you consider GBA ports) compared to 32 SNES. I would say both have an equal variety of games, and its just a matter of opinion who has the greater majority of great games (I'm of the opinion the genesis wins out here, but i'm not helping matters by doing a run on "Dark Castle")There really aren't even many ps1 fans, judged by the fact that the ps1 and n64 currently have the same number of runs on the site. Clearly, the n64 had more of a quality over quantity library than the ps1, but there are many many more high quality ps1 games than n64 games. Get any reasonable judge here, and they can verify that (I will wholeheartedly admit that, having owned only an n64 during these system's primes).

I think people overlook the genesis because the SNES came late in its lifetime and took the spotlight for 2 years before the ps1/n64 a year after the ps1 (which, btw, was a very short lifespan for a console IMO, even if it was supported later). You can't really overlook the fact that programmers did wonders with the limited color pallete of the genesis, making games stand up and compete on an even playing field with snes graphics. This and the fact that the genesis had such a great processor compared to the shitty ass SNES processor that didn't allow you to have mario, yoshi, and 2 fish on screen without huge lag, meant that the genesis basically pushed gameplay along way before its time.

And, if you want an active Genesis community, please visit sega-16.com. Have fun arguing with them about how the snes won out over the genesis, my contention is they were both great, but the genesis happened to do more genres i liked better (Shmups, beat 'em ups, and shooters). Plus, the fact that the genesis was for the cool kids, and the snes was for the panzy boys whose parents wouldn't let them get the genesis because it was too hardcore :-)

I can't argue with you in that the genesis games of yesteryear have not had a direct impact on gaming of today (i.e. no sequels). For example, where are the golden axe games, where are the streets of rage, where are the thunder force games.

In its time though, these games WERE popular and DID have an impact. Before the snes (I realize I was also very very young at this time, so I'm going on what my brother tells me and from reading), 1990-1993, the genesis came along and brought in a huge variety of new genres, ports of great arcade games, and some great classics. Now, my contention is that they still affected how games were produced for systems to come. Herzog Zwei, while you may not have heard of it, is the first real time strategy game on console. The shooters in the genesis library are literally legendary. People STILL think NHL '94 is the best Hockey game of all time, 13 years later!

Now, my contention is that there are just not nearly as many sega fans on this site as nintendo fans and p.c. fans. The genesis/sega cd has 24 runs on the site currently (a few more if you consider GBA ports) compared to 32 SNES. I would say both have an equal variety of games, and its just a matter of opinion who has the greater majority of great games (I'm of the opinion the genesis wins out here, but i'm not helping matters by doing a run on "Dark Castle")There really aren't even many ps1 fans, judged by the fact that the ps1 and n64 currently have the same number of runs on the site. Clearly, the n64 had more of a quality over quantity library than the ps1, but there are many many more high quality ps1 games than n64 games. Get any reasonable judge here, and they can verify that (I will wholeheartedly admit that, having owned only an n64 during these system's primes).

I think people overlook the genesis because the SNES came late in its lifetime and took the spotlight for 2 years before the ps1/n64 a year after the ps1 (which, btw, was a very short lifespan for a console IMO, even if it was supported later). You can't really overlook the fact that programmers did wonders with the limited color pallete of the genesis, making games stand up and compete on an even playing field with snes graphics. This and the fact that the genesis had such a great processor compared to the shitty ass SNES processor that didn't allow you to have mario, yoshi, and 2 fish on screen without huge lag, meant that the genesis basically pushed gameplay along way before its time.

And, if you want an active Genesis community, please visit sega-16.com. Have fun arguing with them about how the snes won out over the genesis, my contention is they were both great, but the genesis happened to do more genres i liked better (Shmups, beat 'em ups, and shooters). Plus, the fact that the genesis was for the cool kids, and the snes was for the panzy boys whose parents wouldn't let them get the genesis because it was too hardcore :-)